Video Interview with David Thewlis on Dumbledore Revelation and More

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Oct 25, 2007

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Actor David Thewlis (Remus Lupin) was in Toronto, Ontario, Canada today for the International Festival of Authors, and gave his reaction to the news from Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling regarding Dumbledore. The actor said that he was surprised, because while he was filming “Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban” director Alfonso Cuaron had the idea that Lupin was gay,”and he described my character like a ‘gay junkie’ .” At this link you can watch a short video interview with the actor who discusses his reaction and more. David Thewlis will be in Toronto again tomorrow to promote his new novel “The Late Hector Kipling” before returning to England to complete work on Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.





88 Responses to Video Interview with David Thewlis on Dumbledore Revelation and More

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VERY INTERESTING!!! Just goes to show it is a mark of a great writer when even the director of the movies had it wrong! Although I could totally have seen a gay Lupin too…. :)

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Cuaron got it wrong?? How can that be? He’s so…artistic….And was so right on with the shrunken head and the Hitler Flitwick thing!

(heavy sarcasm laced with humor there if you wondered…)

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I love David’s impersonation of Alfonso Cuarón. Thewlis rocks.

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I LOVE LUPIN!!!!!!!

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lol ‘gay junkie’ hehehe with a Mexican accent XD I gotta start saying that now! GO LUPIN!

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Oh my god, this interview made me grin so much. He’s adorable.

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sigh…I love Lupin and David Thewlis.

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Getting married and having a child with his fag hag hanger-onner who won’t give up doesn’t make Lupin any less gay. Devastated from the loss of the love of his life, he gave in to Tonks one time and then tried to leave her after she revealed she was pregnant, but then Harry badgered him to go back to her. Poor Lupin, he’s the most tragic figure of the series. An outcast in so many ways.

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Cuaron trying to portray Lupin as a “gay junkie” is just another reason why he should most definately not direct Deathly Hallows.

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This is sort of delightful.

Also, I now have a secret wish for lots of HP actors to be all “but I thought my character was the gay one.”

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I love how he just trails off like “he marries tonks… and has… children..” and then the interview ends. Love it!

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AHHH I LOVE HIM. Absolutely amazing.

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I wonder if Jo knew Cuaron’s thoughts on Lupin (because he was actually quite vocal about it when the movie came out) why she didn’t correct him like she corrected Kloves and Yates about Dumbledore. Maybe Lupin’s just open for interpretation. Getting hastily married and having a child doesn’t necessarily make him completely straight.

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@Melynda: Well, Jo surely most know that there’s a huge chunk of the fandom who has thought all along (and still thinks!) that Lupin is gay. My guess is that she probably never intended him to be but has still graciously left some room for interpretation. But who knows?

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Aaah, I love Thewlis (even though he’s not exactly how I picture Lupin)...he’s always a class act. This was a funny little clip and his impersonation of Alfonso was hilarious.

Oh no, the Remus/Sirius shippers WILL NOT REST! lol. I can see Remus/Sirius myself, but I really love Lupin and Tonks together as a couple.

Maybe Lupin is bi…? Haha, I don’t think that he would’ve bi in the books, but a lot of people in fandom have made him that way. Nothing wrong with that, at all.

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Can this simple news post mentioning Cuaron’s name not devolve into the same tired insults about his version of Azkaban, please? Isn’t possible that he just used the “gay junkie” label to describe Lupin in a symbolic sense. In other words, “your character Lupin is kind of like a gay junkie because as a werewolf he’s often discriminated against like gay people can be and he is dependent on his wolfsbane potion.” I doubt he actually meant “Despite the fact that Jo doesn’t mention it in the books, Remus Lupin is gay.”

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He could always be bisexual…

Why does no one ever consider that? Haha.

I did think the Sirius/Remus subtext was played up from the book (which I didn’t mind, despite hating most of the movie and thinking it the worst of the bunch). Now I know why.

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GingerLibby: No offense, but I think your interpretation is a big stretch. I might think of it if I bent over backwards and twisted the statement 360 while standing on my head. I don’t see why him being described as a gay junkie would mean anything but that Cauron thinks he’s gay.

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I don’t mean to be off topic. I thought to let you know that Bonnie Wright did an voiceover for Disney’s The Replacements in the episode London Calling. She played the villian. The show will be replayed tonight around 11pm (US central time).

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ROTFLMAO! That was great. I agree with Racheline. Slash fans, rejoice!

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Kelly: I don’t deny that it is possible that Cuaron could have thought Lupin was gay, it’s just that I’ve heard him speak in interviews on several occasions and witnessed countless directors describe their thought processes when it comes to making films and many often use artsy terminology like this to describe their vision. I once heard an interview where Johnny Depp described his character in Sleepy Hollow as a 13 year old girl, and I don’t think he meant that his character was literally an 13 year old girl just that he played the character as such.

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“I wonder if Jo knew Cuaron’s thoughts on Lupin (because he was actually quite vocal about it when the movie came out) why she didn’t correct him like she corrected Kloves and Yates about Dumbledore. Maybe Lupin’s just open for interpretation. Getting hastily married and having a child doesn’t necessarily make him completely straight.”

I still think Sirius/Remus is a completely valid interpretation. Nothing happens with Remus and Tonks until after Sirius is dead. I also still think it’s possible Remus was gay and not bisexual, seeing as every time we see him happy after he gets married, he’s happy about his son (as opposed to his marriage).

Remus/Tonks was…they get married, Remus is miserable, they have a kid, they die. Wow, what was the point of that? I didn’t like how it turned Tonks from an upbeat, enthusiastic person to someone who actually loses her powers because Remus won’t go out with her. It was a huge disservice to her character. Maybe Remus/Tonks could have been written to be a good relationship, but that wasn’t the case.

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I always saw Lupin – and really the entire werewolf thing – as a metaphor for how homosexuals are treated in our society. And it’s been pretty obvious for me, ever since I first watched POA, that Cuaron saw the metaphor as well (hasn’t he even discussed this in an interview?). But it’s interesting that he literally saw Lupin as gay too. Does this mean all the Remus/Sirius hints in that film were intentional? :D

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No David, Tonks is yours! You two die together!!!! XD

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I’m going to see David tomorrow night at the Festival—I’m so excited! Maybe I’ll even get to meet him… that would be cool. Also, he and Alfonso were right. Lupin was gay and nothing can ever convince me otherwise :)

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HAHA, was Remus gay? One of my favourite discussions!

I’m with Cuaron – a great film maker, btw. My thoughts are that Remus was definately written with gay undertones until Jo got to OotP. She’s admitted she swapped Remus for Mr Weasley in the death stakes and so suddenly after book 5, Remus needed a wife and child.

Urgh, I hate the Remus/Tonks relationship – it’s written so badly I just can’t believe in it. Remus and Sirius all the way for me!

(It’s been ages since I even posted on here, I wonder if this will even work!)

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Excellent – it did!!

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I agree with Melynda—

“Getting hastily married and having a child doesn’t necessarily make him completely straight.”


And that’s not just in fiction either.


On another note, I think this news item may spark something in the Sirius/Remus (Or Snupin!) camp of the HP fandom! WOO! Just like Grindeldore. This shall be fun.

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Actually, I could believe Remus was gay before believing that Dumbledore ever was.

There is such an undertone in Lupin’s character that could hint at it. And I caught the undertone message when watching POA (the whole “my kind aren’t accepted among society” message at the end, where Lupin’s packing up) and even OotP (the scene where he’s standing behind Sirius as Harry goes to hug Sirius at Grimmauld Place).

And things did seem fishy in Deathly Hallows. Lupin seemed like a gay man having to marry a woman he really doesn’t love, just because they’re having a baby…and he didn’t even care about sending Tonks to her parents. What newly married man wouldn’t care about being separated from his wife during a war? Things just seemed like he was forced into the marriage. It seemed awefully strange.

So, Cauron and Thewlis aren’t the only ones who could see that side of character to Lupin.

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Gay, perhaps, since gay people are (gasp) just like everyone else. But a JUNKIE?? He thought Lupin behaved like a Meth addict? Sweet, wise, thoughtful, patient, down to earth, melancholy LUPIN??? Well, THAT explains much and yes, gives me yet another reason to hope to all the muses that he’s not let near another Potter movie.

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I’d be curious to hear what Michael Gambon thinks of this.

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I. love. them. both. (Thewlis and Cuaron).

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there are all kinds of junkies, though…

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Funny…I never thought of Remus as gay when I read the books, but after seeing the PoA film I did! I wonder how much effect that movie has had on fans perception of him since he is so commonly represented as gay or bisexual in fan fiction.

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” I didn’t like how it turned Tonks from an upbeat, enthusiastic person to someone who actually loses her powers because Remus won’t go out with her. “

Honestly? I always saw her losing her morphing abilities as a show of how terrified she was that Lupin, whom she quite obviously loved at that point, was running off immediately after his best friend’s death into what was essentially a suicide mission. Yeah, he wouldn’t go out with her, but more to the point, his life was in serious danger, and he didn’t seem to care a whole lot about taking care of himself. It’s very, very clear in HBP that that is what she’s so scared about, especially in the scene where Harry runs into her outside of the Room of Requirement.

As far as Remus being a gay man trapped in a marriage because they were having a baby together - maybe Jo did originally conceive of his character as being homosexual, but the end result was that he was straight enough to conceive that child in the first place. That scene in Grimmauld Place, when Remus wants to leave with Harry - that, I thought, just proved that Remus loved Tonks more than life itself. Here he was, finally having a taste of what it was to live happily, but society and the anti-werewolf sentiments were such that not only was he in danger, but Tonks (and their unborn child) were in serious danger as well. And that was, as Lupin says, because of him being lycanthropic. And he loved them so much that he was willing to walk away from that love, from that tiny bit of happiness he finally had, in order to keep them as safe as they could possibly be in the middle of a war. He didn’t love her selfishly, but he thought that by staying with her, he was.

The subtext in that scene is incredible. And if you need more proof, in chapter five, I believe, of DH, when he and everyone else are waiting for Tonks and Ron to return, he is so genuinely worried that it’s heartbreaking. Seeing his reaction when she does finally return with Ron—that and the way he reacted in Grimmauld Place, how could anyone think that he didn’t love her (and later his son) more than we’ve seen him love anyone in the series?

I adore David Thewlis as an actor. I think he’s incredibly talented and I love many of his films. I don’t think Lupin was properly cast in the films, but I do think Thewlis is doing a very good job at playing him. The only thing that did bother me were the homosexual undertones of the character, given the way Thewlis was playing him, and I’m happy to see that not only was that intentional, but that hopefully now it will be rectified in the film version of my favorite of the seven books.

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” I didn’t like how it turned Tonks from an upbeat, enthusiastic person to someone who actually loses her powers because Remus won’t go out with her. “

Honestly? I always saw her losing her morphing abilities as a show of how terrified she was that Lupin, whom she quite obviously loved at that point, was running off immediately after his best friend’s death into what was essentially a suicide mission. Yeah, he wouldn’t go out with her, but more to the point, his life was in serious danger, and he didn’t seem to care a whole lot about taking care of himself. It’s very, very clear in HBP that that is what she’s so scared about, especially in the scene where Harry runs into her outside of the Room of Requirement.

As far as Remus being a gay man trapped in a marriage because they were having a baby together… maybe Jo did originally conceive of his character as being homosexual, but the end result was that he was straight enough to conceive that child in the first place. That scene in Grimmauld Place, when Remus wants to leave with Harry – that, I thought, just proved that Remus loved Tonks more than life itself. Here he was, finally having a taste of what it was to live happily, but society and the anti-werewolf sentiments were such that not only was he in danger, but Tonks (and their unborn child) were in serious danger as well. And that was, as Lupin says, because of him being lycanthropic. And he loved them so much that he was willing to walk away from that love, from that tiny bit of happiness he finally had, in order to keep them as safe as they could possibly be in the middle of a war. He didn’t love her selfishly, but he thought that by staying with her, he was.

The subtext in that scene is incredible. And if you need more proof, in chapter five, I believe, of DH, when he and everyone else are waiting for Tonks and Ron to return, he is so genuinely worried that it’s heartbreaking. Seeing his reaction when she does finally return with Ron—that and the way he reacted in Grimmauld Place, how could anyone think that he didn’t love her (and later his son) more than we’ve seen him love anyone in the series?

I adore David Thewlis as an actor. I think he’s incredibly talented and I love many of his films. I don’t think Lupin was properly cast in the films, but I do think Thewlis is doing a very good job at playing him. The only thing that did bother me were the homosexual undertones of the character, given the way Thewlis was playing him, and I’m happy to see that not only was that intentional, but that hopefully now it will be rectified in the film version of my favorite of the seven books.

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OK, now Lupin I CAN see as gay (ditto Sirius, especially how Oldman plays him).

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Look, Cuaron calling Lupin a gay junkie means absolutely nothing, and Dumbledore being gay does not make every other character in the books gay as well! Have any of you thought of the possibility that Lupin was scared that his son would be a werewolf, not that he didn’t love Tonks? Or that he didn’t want to marry her because he loved her so much he wanted her to have a better husband than him? Just wondering…

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Mom Weasley: Maybe Cuaron did envision Lupin as some form of junkie (could he have been craving his wolfsbane with those unfortunate hairy and aggressive withdrawal symptoms), but if that vision something as extreme as a meth addict I believe you would have seen some of that in Thewlis’ performance. However, Thewlis portrayed Lupin as thoughtful and melancholy as he is described in the books, so Cuaron must not have been that mercenary when it came to adapting Jo’s book to film. Sorry to seem so defensive, I just wish things weren’t taken so literally and that the HP fandom would calm down for awhile and not be so quick to judge.

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I never read evidence of mutual love from that scene in chapter five. Tonks ran into his arms, and Remus seemed mad at her for no reason. That, and his running away to try and join the trio, seemed like a man desperate for any excuse to escape. In the end, he went back for the sake of his kid.

I’m sure mutual love was intended between them, but from the vague bare bones in the books, Remus and Tonks’ relationship is pretty wide open for interpretation.

As far as Remus’ sexuality, there’s no reason he couldn’t have been with Sirius first, then Tonks after Sirius died. I just wish Remus/Tonks hadn’t played out in such a weird way.

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Hahah when he says children he sounds disgusted!

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Haha, Alfonso didn’t have it wrong, we all know that Remus is acctually gay and were in love with Sirius!

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Alfonso thought Remus was gay? Well, duh.

Remus is still sorta gay in my head (or at least bisexual, R/S FTW!)

I REALLY want Alfonso to direct Deathly Hallows, It was a shame he wasn’t picked for HBP, although I LOVE David Yates directing too.

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Don’t forget! A director will tell an actor WHATEVER HE THINKS THE ACTOR NEEDS TO HEAR to get the performance the director wants.

Perhaps Thewlis was going for a too broad manly-manly-rowrrrrr-grrrrr! werewolf-monster thing and Cuaron wanted him to refine his performance. That’s what “gay junkie” sounds like to me: Someone with a secret-secret he’s hiding and fighting against.

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David is so cool.

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What ALL of these discussions show is how open-minded poeple in the entertainment industry are as compared with the general (American?) public who seem to be a lot more narrow-minded.

Jo Rowling would not have revealed to Alfonso Cuaron how Lupin turned out in the last book so he only had POA Lupin to go on. But Cuaron may have been joking – those in the industry also have a much more open-minded and sardonic sense of humour too.

We need to be more open-minded and relax a bit – gay people are just people who happen to be gay. Nothing more, nothng less.

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And of course Lupin turns out not to be gay because he marries Tonks and has children

Pardonnez-moi!!? Does this mean Oscar Wilde wasn’t gay either because he had children. Sorry David, you are goofing on that point.

Funny btw, that some read the scene from “the Bride” as the proof Lupin was in love with Tonks, I got quite a reverse impression. I admit he really cared for her, but also he could not bear to live a lie.

But the basic thing about Lupin is that he is still desperate for real friends. Once he is offered friendship he goes all the way. Does not critize them for abhorrid behaviour, tries to live up to the standard of a husband. I think that treat of Lupin is deeper and more fundamental then being gay or straight.

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IMO, this just goes to show that Cuaron, as artistically genial he might be, has absolutely no grasp on the actual book characters whatsoever. But I knew that already from his butchering certain characters in PoA. Yes, I know what Cuaron fans will say, I have no idea about film making. Admitted. But I know a bit about literature and characters, so thank you very much. I never ever saw Lupin as gay, sorry. And his love story with Tonks was quite believable for me. I wouldn´t have minded at all had JKR written him to be gay, but as I see it, she hasn´t.

And yes, David Thewlis absolutely rocks.

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I always thought of Lupin as straight, actually… My reaction to Lupin/Tonks (...Tonkpin? Lunks?) was more – “Wait, Tonks? With a guy? Nooooooooooooooooo!” I challenge you to find one single Potter-reading lesbian who hasn’t thought “Hm, I wouldn’t mind HER being a real person!” But then, in DH I thought their relationship played out to be quite a believable one. Then again, like a lot of people have said: the world isn’t black and white. There are bisexual people out there.

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I feel Cauron missed the point of Lupin – he is a recluse because of what he is – a werewolf. He fears relationships because of what he is..a werewolf. So its through this whole very difficult life, that he developed rather these little idiosyncrasies which Cauron and Thewlis interpreted as Gay. But I hope Thewlis continues his potrayal in the same way becasue he plays that character so brilliantly. Without saying anything, you can see a history of sufering in his eyes and a longing to be accepted but at the same time has a caring responsibility for Harry and others even if its to the expense of himself. JK didnt make Lupin gay because it didnt serve the the story of lupin and his werewolf drama- Tonks served a better story driven line. But she made Dumbledore gay (though not in an any explicit way) because that serves his story with Grindelwald. Personally, I find Lupin and Tonks story the most heart wenching shakesparean tragedy. But each of these indivual stories make for one grand epic saga.

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I’d far rather have had Lupin turn out to be gay than that horribly characterized “romance” that turned Tonks into an obsessive whiner and Lupin into a jerk. Rowling should have stuck with her original plan and NOT gotten them together if she was going to do such a lousy job.

And Olivia’s right – Cuaron was quite vocal about bringing out the gay subtext in PoA and she didn’t say a word. In fact, she said that he’d inadvertently nailed a lot of things she was planning to bring out in later books! This is yet more evidence that she hadn’t planned the Tonks/Lupin subplot until after she’d decided to reprieve Arthur Weasley.

Finally – if David Thewlis really thinks that marriage and children is proof that someone is not gay, he is sadly mistaken. A lot of closeted gays and lesbians do exactly that, only to make themselves and their spouses miserable. I don’t see any reason at all why this wasn’t the case with Lupin and Tonks, considering that he seemed unhappy with the marriage, though not with Teddy.

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I always read Lupin as gay too, whether that was a literal interpretation, or of his werewolf status being similar to that of a gay man in the Muggle world. And Tonks is obviously a big lesbian, so it was appropriate that they ended up together. Too bad they didn’t live long enough to discover their true selves!

And to those who are all mad and say, “of course Lupin isn’t gay!!”, how many of you would’ve jumped to Dumbledore’s “defense” if he had been outed by anyone but JKR?

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Wha-wha? I mean, I think most of us like the idea of Lupin being…slashy, but not a junkie. X_x He’s, like, the anti-junkie. The voice of reason (if he gets the nerve up) in a crowd of troublemaking teenagers. =)

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Oh please! Just like not everyone is hetero..not everyone is gay either. I totally saw Lupin and Tonks together since the fifth book when Lupin introduced her to Harry. I don’t know, there was something about their dynamic. Who knows, maybe Remus and Tonks were Bi? Anyway, I never thought Lupin was Gay from POA, and that is my favorite HO book. I just thought he was a incredibly lonely man who really missed is friends.

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I think the “gay junkie” = “werewolf on wolfsbane” is not so much of a stretch. Cuaron may have just needed a term to describe the character to Thewlis.

Also if Cuaron as vocal about it, nothing stopped Rowling from correcting him in private. She did so to the scriptwriter of HBP writing a note on the script about Dumbledore, but once the question was asked in public, she didn’t hold back the answer.

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The video wouldn’t play for me,thanks though.

I can understand why Cauron might have thought that but thought Dumbledor was the more appropriate charater , his being just made sense.

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Cuaron didn’t say lupin was a gay junky, he just suggested playing him like a gay junky. And let’s be honoust… it worked. Ik love alfonso cuaron.(Not in a gay manner though)

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Who cares if a character is gay? I don’t see what the big ta-doo is…I’m not going to like or dislike anyone due to their sexual orientation.

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Lol, I was sure Alfonso was taking that angle in PoA! Sirius and Lupin “bickering like a married couple” ... it was clear to me who Alfonso shipped! Yep, also see no reason why it couldn’t have been Lupin/Sirius then Lupin/Tonks.

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Remus/Tonks could have been decently done, could have been convincing. It wasn’t, unless you are a very forgiving reader. It was badly timed, pitched, scripted, and executed. By the end of the book I didn’t even care when they died, which is a shame, as I always liked Remus, but the characterization was so terrible and full of gaps that I just wanted them gone. It’s obvious that JK just pushed Remus and Tonks together because she was tired of the Remus/Sirius shippers and wanted to shut them up. (Ha, nice try.)

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Problem was, Jo had to focus on Harry’s story most of all. Going off on a tangent about the love lives of characters not directly in contact with Harry all the time would have been a digression.

Don’t forget, the books are written from Harry’s POV. He wouldn’t have been around to see the relationship develop between Remus and Tonks.

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I wish Lupin WAS gay…damn that Tonks!!

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This is why I don’t want Cuaron directing DH. He makes a beautiful film, but he also tries to make it too much his own. It worked well enough for Azkaban, but for Deathly Hallows, we need a director who is going to stick closely with Jo’s vision.

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Not a lot of time to comment and haven’t seen the video clip yet, but I do have to say that from reading the book I would have never got the idea that Lupin was gay, but it was the interpretation in the movie that lead me to any thoughts that way. Now I know I can blame Cuaron for that. : ) That whole “quarreling like an old married couple” bit from Snape, etc. Ahh well it wouldn’t have mattered if Lupin was gay either, but it is intersting what the directors read into it vs what JKR puts into it.

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The gayest werewolf that ever gayed, and a carcrash marriage and adorable kid does not change that. Which isn’t to say he didn’t love Tonks, but most telling for me was in the final scene in the forest, when he was happiest to have been younger and with his friends. I don’t think Tonks ever really had a patch on Sirius…

Cuaron for DH!

And of course he was a junkie – did you see him with that chocolate? :D

(Also, how great would it be if Maggie Smith was next to trot up and say she thought it was her character?)

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Lol. Can’t blame ‘em, really.

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I also like David Thewlis as Lupin.

I first saw Thewlis in Prime Suspect 3 where he played a villain. That was a really meaty role and he was wonderful.

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giggles. So true I think it will set off a whole bunch of, “but I thought it was me” quotes from the actors. I also love the combined names and am totally a David Thewlis as Lupin fan.

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I love David Thewlis as Lupin, but this is yet another reason why Alfonso should not get his hands anywhere near movie 7. I still think he is an amazing director, but not for Harry.

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Why does this information somehow make people think Cuaron shouldn’t direct DH? I think Thewlis’s portrayal of Lupin was perfect, and the gay=werewolf/junkie=wolfsbane potion conceptualization of the role makes sense. What makes Cuaron so great is that he is able to communicate more with less. If anything, that makes him uniquely qualified to direct DH.

That being said, I don’t think he will direct because Yates seems like a sure thing. Still this information is irrelvant to his directing skill because in POA, Lupin did not come off as a gay junkie. Cuaron’s direction to Thewlis merely offered another way of looking at the character of Lupin that reflects the prejudices existing in our own world today.

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honestly! why does everything that to revolve around sex with you people?! why can’t two people of the same gender just be best/close friends without it turning into some sort of homo-fest!

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Not surprising since Lupin in POA was portrayed very Gay IMO. Which was just out of left field since I never got any impression in the book 3 or any of the books that he was such.

I don’t think anyone has ever asked her a direct question about Lupin sexuality of course she may not want to burst the bubble of the many Lupin/Sirius fans. Though you got of think that it will come out eventually especially if she does that encyclopedia even if its years away it should have more back-story on some characters. Not to mention after DD someone is bond to ask eventually if there were any other main-semi man gay characters.

We honestly don’t know, nothing happened between Tonks and Lupin till after Sirius was gone They very well could have dated at some point in OOTP and Lupin broke up with her with in the time Harry was at his relations. Honestly it seems a bit far fetched that Tonks would become so severely depressed over a guy she had never dated or been with just because he wouldn’t go out with her. I don’t think Tonks and Lupin relationship was done poorly it was just a back-story relationship that we get very little information about. I think Lupin was unhappy because of what he said he feared Tonks would now be an outcast too, that he didn’t want his family to suffer the way he did and be shunned by society as he had been.

As far as Lupin saying his people aren’t accepted in society that could be a metaphor for many things, people who have aids, leprosy or some other illness.

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The reason for Lupin and Tonks being together = Red herring.

As I read HBP, I remembered Tonks popping up at odd places and not acting like herself, changing her patronus, losing her animorphmagus powers and somehow always showing up whenever Draco was close by, so I swallowed all that hook line and sinker and thought she was Draco spying for Voldy and that that was part of his mission.

When it turned out she was just in love with an older man, it was weak and unexpected.

If he was gay to begin with, maybe she switched him to straight for the story to make sense. I mean, come on, they’re her characters and if a red herring is more important than the sexual orientation of a secondary character, so be it. She had to stick with that decision afterwards though.

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‘Why can’t two guys be friends without it turning into a homofest?’

Well, let’s see, Dumbledore had a close friend…

So no, having a close friend does not automatically mean that there was a romantic/sexual relationship going on. But sometimes there is. Hermione and Harry are friends, they are not banging. Hermione and Ron also started out as friends, they wind up married. It’s not unreasonable to favor one or the other pairing (except that Harry and Hermione are main focal characters with endless chances to show that they are indeed just friends) Well, okay, you can favor it, but don’t expect it to happen.

Go figure that some people got to thinking when two guys gave a joint Christmas present and lived together and all that, that there might have been more than friendship there. And that until the end of HBP, that might have seemed a more likely relationship than a guy and a girl who were in the same room together once or twice (and here I thought Tonks’ banter with MadEye all throughout was way more loaded with chemistry. What, is MadEye too old for her or something?)

Canon Remus/Tonks doesn’t bother me. Fans who shipped them ever since OotP because they happened to both be single, desirable characters, they bother me. What, can’t a guy and a girl be friends without it turning into a huge heterofest?

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Hmmmm…this reminds me of that joke, “Is that actor gay, or just English?” HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

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REMUS AND TONKS! Ahh, I love them so much. Ah, the whole Cuaron thing makes sense.. I also don’t think Remus was properly cast, but I’m fine with David as him.

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I agree with everyone who says the Tonks/Remus storyline in DH was really badly played out. I never believed it for one second because there was no affection for Tonks from Remus at all. He even calls her Nymphadora at one point a name she hated. Jo wrote Remus as an idiot in this book and Tonks was just pathetic from HBP onwards.

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Personally, I didn’t think this was such a big deal. As someone else basically pointed out, it would be kinda hard for Cuaron to explain to him how he wanted him to perform the role by telling him to act like a werewolf. It doesn’t mean Lupin WAS a gay junkie, but keeping such a concept in mind helped form the performance and created the shunned loner persona.

It reminds me of Gore Vidal’s comments regarding his work in the Ben Hur script. In order to find a way of explaining why two men who had been such close friends became such bitter enemies, he wrote the scenes with subtext of them once being lovers and Ben Hur later spurning Messalah. It wasn’t necessary to show that relation, but it helped him work on the scenes between the two. Once those scenes were created it wasn’t necessary to enter anything in the relation into the movie nor was it necessary form the actors to perform the parts knowing this. (Heston definitely did not know this.) However, the director did and between what was used to create the script and his instructions to Heston and Boyd the achieved the desired results.

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Remus Lupin, the only gay in the (Hogsmeade) village.

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Why are some people so happy to welcome back the director of the least successful HP movie? Cuaron movies are just too arty for the general public.

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If Cuaron does the last movie, and the general public doesn’t like it, at least it’s not like that’ll ruin Warner Bros.’ chances at making another Harry Potter Film ;)

The last two movies were the most coherent while not being total kiddie fair, but I still find Azcaban the most enjoyable to watch (accepting that any Harry Potter Movie is going to have huge missing story chunks) but that’s personal taste. I liked the sort of dark humor running through it.

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I am happy to have the director of the least financially successful film because it was the most critically acclaimed film. Money does not equal quality. Columbus’s Sorcerer’s Stone made the most money and I think most people would agree that Columbus would not be the best director for DH.

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My god, I love David Thewlis.

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I’ve always imagined Lupin (and Sirius a bit too) as gay, even after he got married and had a kid. I was actually hoping he was, because I thought that’d be cool and it seemed to just be right for one of my favorite characters. David Thewlis is PERFECT as Lupin.

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I really love the idea of a gay Remus. Only if there is also a gay Sirius, though. It might be completley cannon, but it is my ever living dream!

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“Money does not equal quality. Columbus’s Sorcerer’s Stone made the most money and I think most people would agree that Columbus would not be the best director for DH.”

Better him that Cuaron again. Artsy does not equal quality either. Actually, if he has the energy for a third I would like to see Yates do DH. The last three books are much more closely tied together that say the first three. They need one vision, not a series of changing perspectives And the last thing the need is another Booompy Ride from Cuaron

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If Remus WAS gay it’d explain everything. And maybe just maybe excuse the appalling way his relationship with Tonks was written.

I do love David Thelewis I just wish he’d wax his upper lip….then I’d love him more

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Cauron thought of Lupin as a gay junkie? Sheesh, and all this time I wondered why my favorite book had become my least favorite movie. ;)

Alright, the above comment is not (completely) serious, but Lupin’s behavior in the Shrieking Shack did really throw me off. Instead of being the cool and rational one who explains the history of the Marauders to Harry, he acted quite freakish and deranged throughout the shack scene.

I think I could have still enjoyed it even with the strange behavior if they had included at least some of the back-story provided by Lupin in the movie.

Seriously though, a junkie? With the exception of the 7th book (and his monthly changes), when has Lupin ever acted as anything other than completely calm? Even when the moon was rising in the book, he was coherent up until the final moments before the change.

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