Gandalf vs Dumbledore: Ian McKellen Talks Wizards

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Nov 24, 2007

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Sir Ian McKellen is the subject of a new profile in The Guardian, where the actor talks two famous wizards; Gandalf and Albus Dumbledore. In this candid interview, the actor who was nominated for an Oscar for his turn as Gandalf in the widely successful Lord of the Rings film trilogy, is asked if he ever gives any pointers or discusses the finer art of playing a wizard with his friend Michael Gambon, who currently portrays Professor Dumbledore in the Harry Potter movies. His answer: “Funnily enough, we never have.” He grins.” The article then continues, dispelling again the rumors that Ian McKellen was to take on the part of the beloved Hogwarts Headmaster after Richard Harris, who originated the role as Professor Dumbledore in the first two films, died in 2002.

“People say to me, don’t you wish you’d played Dumbledore? I say no! I played Gandalf! The original. There was a question as to whether I might take over from Richard Harris [Gambon's predecessor in the Dumbledore role], but seeing as one of the last things he did publicly was say what a dreadful actor he thought I was, it would not have been appropriate for me to take over his part.” He smiles icily. “It would have been unfair.”

Finally, Mr. McKellen answers a question long debated in this and the LotR fandom: Who would win if there was a battle between Gandalf and Dumbledore. “McKellen puffs out his chest. “Gandalf. Of course.”





87 Responses to Gandalf vs Dumbledore: Ian McKellen Talks Wizards

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HAHAHAHAHAHA! Dumbledore the copy of gay Gandalf?

When will people realize that both wizards are modelled after the typical druid?

of course Dumbledore would win. Gandalf cannot even die properly.

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Actually, it would be a tie, because Dumbledore didn’t die properly either.

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Pleeeeeaaaase Sir McKellen, reconsider giving gambon some pointers? At this stage in the game I refuse to capitalize his name.

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Haha, I love Ian McKellen -such a great actor and he always makes me smile. :)

But, ahem, Dumbledore would totally win. ;)

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Oh, Patrick! If he only would! ;-)

As for who would win, Dumbledore of course. He had the unbeatable wand… :p

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richard harris dissed sir ian mckellen? i find it hard to believe. man, i wish he hadn’t mckellen would’ve been a hundred times better than gambon.

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Dumbledore was much stronger than Gandalf…

And yes, Dumbledore DID die properly. If you don’t think so, then you didn’t understand the chapter “King’s Cross”

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Well, seeing as Gandalf doesn’t even really USE magic, then of course Dumbledore would win.

How can you compare two worlds with completely different rules?

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Cristy – I don’t find it hard to believe. Richard Harris was always … shall we say, a bit outspoken. I wouldn’t be surprised. It takes him down in my estimation, though.

McKellen’s performance in LotR was far, far better than Harris’s dull, sleepy, phoned-in “standard wizard” performance in PS and CoS. McKellen deserved his Oscar nomination.

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Maybe it’s just good harris snubbed McKellen. I will always see him as the Shakespearian Richard III, who is closer to Voldemort then Dumbledore. Only Voldy doesn’t has the sarcastic, vitriolic sense of humor Richard III had. Besides I already had visualised Grindelwald looking like McKellen ( and it’s rather hard to find pictures of a young and strappy Ian, he isn’t that handsome after all)

The article btw is much and much broader then the skimpy Dumbledore question.

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Um, Richard Harris publicly insulted Ian Mckellan… wtf? That’s really a shame. I don’t think he would’ve taken the part anyway though. He’s said before that one bearded wizard is enough or something along those lines. Perhaps if they’d approached him from the beginning, before he ever played Gandalf…

And psh, whatev Mckellan, Dumbledore would totally win. :P

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Well it all depends. On some giant empty room, Dumbledore would win shooting Gandalf from a distance. On tighter quarters like, say, a bridge, Gandalf would melee and thwack Dumbledore in the head while yelling ‘thou shalt not pass’.

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I’m not sure Gandalf and Dumbledore would have taken an opportunity for a duel. Seeing as they were both on the side of Good, I think it more likely they would have sat around telling stories over a nice bottle of Ogden’s Firewhisky and some of the Shire’s best pipeweed. ;-)

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Knowing what we know now, would it have been interesting to have a gay man playing Dumbledore?

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“Gandalf. Of course.” Well he would say that wouldn’t he? LOL, well we all know the truth. :)

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Richard Harris had a career of dishing out insults to all and sundry ! He hardly ever stopped but the vast majority of it was fuelled by the demon drink. Of course he insulted Ian -who didn’t he insult ?

He was a fine actor however and his Cromwell was hypnotic. I also happen to prefer his Dumbledore to that of Michael Gambon. However, the one thing I will say is that the film depiction of Dumbledore would certainly have improved if both Harris and Gambon actually liked and, perhaps more importantly, respected the source material enough to read the books and to also talk to experts in the field. This is something Ian McKellan (who I saw recently triumphantly in Lear in Stratford)did in L of the Rings.

David Hayman has appeared to have spent some time trying to understand the character of Dumbledore-unlike, I regret to say, Michael Gambon.

Without mentioning any names, it has been said by the marvelous Maggie Smith -to give just one example -that the Harry Potter series is “her pension.”

Well thats all very good -but I do feel that both the source material and the scripts deserve more respect from these great British actors than perhaps they do. (I do exempt Maggie from this)

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Sorry, Mr. McKellen, but I’d have to disagree with you on that last point! Gandalf beating Dumbledore? HA!

;D

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Dunno about a wizard duel between Gandalf and Dumbledore (actually I rather more imagine them on a date than in a duel…..) but a contest of acting skills between Sir Ian and Gambon would leave Gambon in the dust…...Probably hollering inappropriately.

And probably the same thing in a reading test…..;0)

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at least ian mckellen does a good job of playing his character…. gambon just isn’t dumbledore.

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He is right, Gandalf would of course win. SO GET OVER IT.

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Dumbledore would put Gandalf away in a heartbeat. :D

I do think Sir Ian is a fine actor and would have made a great Dumbledore.

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Of course Gandalf would win, he was a semi-deity, after all. Dumbledore was merely human.

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I’ll probably be pelted with rotten tomatoes for saying this, but I’ve always thought McKellen’s portrayal of Gandalf was very overrated. It was a good performance, but hardly a great one. I can still distinctly remember watching the Academy Awards that year and breathing a sigh of relief when they didn’t call out McKellen’s name as the winner of the Best Supporting Actor Oscar. Frankly, I think every other actor in the category was more deserving of the award that year than he was.

Having said that, I do think his portrayal of Gandalf was better than either Harris’s or Gambon’s portrayal of Dumbledore.

And it’s not hard for me to believe that Richard Harris publicly insulted McKellen. Harris was always a controversial person who slammed a lot of people during his career. He didn’t strike me as a bad guy, just a very frank, open person who didn’t pull any punches. If he had a problem with you, he’d say so.

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I love both DD and Gandalf, but we all know that McKellen plays the wizard better in LOTR than the two actors in HP.

I can’t wait to see Golden Compass, if yall don’t know he does the voice of Iorek. :D

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You don’t give Gambon any tips? Oh, please start. Immediately. In fact if you hurry up you might be able to get to him before they film the astronomy tower scene – go go go!

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like duh – DUMBLEDORE! he’s so much kewler! DUMBLEDORE’S ARMY! lol im hypo. luv y’all. x

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Come on ….. Gandalf fought the war with a sword on a horse. There is no competition!! The only magic I’ve seen him doing is the fireworks at the begining of the trilogy, and we all know that Fred and George did better then that!!! HAHA! GO DUMBLEDORE!!!!

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Wow, somebody’s just a LITTLE bit biased… It certainly seems as though Sir Ian hasn’t read Harry Potter, because if he had he’d realize that Dumbledore would totally destroy Gandalf.

I’m glad he didn’t take over for Richard Harris, for some reason I can’t picture Magneto in a Dumbledore costume. And, actually, I don’t really mind Michael Gambon. Sure he was a bit, well, violent in GoF, but he was much better in OotP. Harris captured Dumbledore’s quirkiness (“Nitwit, blubber, oddment, tweak!”) and Gambon gets Dumbledore’s power, so neither are perfect, but they both fit well. If Gambon’ll only READ THE BOOKS, though…

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Like so many here, I wish McKellen would give the arrogant Gambon some acting tips (like, say, “read the book, you moron”?). I also agree with Misty that the two would be way more likely to sit back for a smoke and exchange of stories rather than fight. And Dumbledore would be smart enough to know that Gandalf wasn’t even human thus was beyond his abilities, as he was awfully good at avoiding trouble. I really think the only way one could defeat the other anyway would be if one of them took a turn for the dark side, which wouldn’t happen.

But as for the Gambon thing, I swear, anyone could play DD better than him. I don’t even care about continuity, I wish they’d replace him due to fandom demand. And I mean anyone… McKellen, your grandma, I don’t care…

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lol Well, ya can’t blame him for saying his character would win.

I think he would’ve been a great DD, because he played Gandalf in the way DD should be played- wise, calm, caring, and powerful.

But I’ve warmed up to Gambon a bit since reading DH.

LOTR and HP are both universal and appeal to all generations. I personally just happen to prefer HP over LOTR ( LOTR, I’m sorry to say I find a tad bit of a snorefest, in all its incredibly detailed intricacy). :) I really liked the movies, though I’ve heard that they “butchered the books”. Hmm, well, if that’s what it takes to make them interesting! ;) (evil giggles) Sorry, I know I’m terrible! :) I honestly don’t mind. Just prefer HP, that’s all so don’t pounce on me, Tolkin buffs!

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And one more thing about Gambon. After reading DH I think Gambon plays a great Dumbledore!!!

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I love both Richard Harris and Ian McKellen as actors and it saddens me deeply that Richard harris would have ever said he thought Ian Mckellen was a bad actor… and I still think that the perfect actor(s) to take over the role of Dumbledore would have been peter O’toole or Pactrick Stewart. I have warmed up to Michael Gambon. but I still don’t think he captures Dumbledore that well

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McKellen is a legend. When I watch movies with him, it really is a struggle to stop myself from concentrating solely on him and missing the movie. The way he speaks is mesmerizing.

How I would love to see him live, in a play.

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Funny. As to the Dumbledore-Gandalf thing:I would put money on them sort of either killing each other, destroy the world while fighting, or failing to do any sort of injury on the other. Something like that. And if Dumbledore lost, he’d no doubt guide some kind of pawn coughHarrycough to defeat him. laughs hysterically

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I forgot. I think a Dumbledore-Gandalf fight would be a very large struggle with one barely beating the other. No standout winner for me.

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I think many of the big name adult (specially the older ones) actors see HP as a money making bit rather than an acting challenge, probably because of the fantasy, the ‘children’s book’ label and the fact that these books came out in the late years of their lives. LotR probably has more of a classic feel for them.

50 years from now, when HP is considered a true classic like only age can make them, we’ll see old actors playing their HP parts like it was Shakespeare.

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Ian McKellen certainly has a way with words, he does it so well !(one cannot really compere one world with another a, they are both fictional, b,each are powerful in their own worlds,it would hardly be possible to entwine the 2 worlds. Each have their own worlds to live in I dont think it fair to try abd nake a comparison the characters arnt able to jump from one book to another. (I am sur each would be “lost” in the other persons ‘world’)

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I like Gambons portrayal of Dumbeldore. Its not like the books, but the movies aren’t like the books. McKellen would always be Gandalf in my eyes….I could never see him playing Dumbeldore. Although it would be great to see him. He has such a commanding presence on stage.

As for who when. Gandalf…he has a lot of powers…he just chooses not to use them. But he is the White Wizard after all.

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Alright, I prefer HP over LOTR, but let’s examine one crucial fact that’s not so much touched upon outside of the Silmarillion: Gandalf is immortal. He’s more or less a demigod, created in the very early stages of Middle Earth. Dumbledore may have had the unbeatable wand, but Gandalf could simply wait for him to die of old age and take it.

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HaHa! No way ! Dumbledore was not only a master in magic-as well as the dark side of it-he was a master manipulator.Gandalf was almost defeated by a wizard of less power.He would have NEVER defeated Dumbledore but of course McKellen would think he could.

Voltemort could have defeated Ganfolf.

Had Richard Harris been in better health his Dumblledore would not have been rivailed by anyone,and dispit McKellen’s grea abilities, I prefer Harris’s acting.He was phanominal.

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Of course Gandalf would win – Tolkien’s appendices stated clearly that he was a Maia, a lesser angel working directly for the Vala. Dumbledore was a mortal man, albeit a powerful and talented wisdom. No contest at all.

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Heh, that’s kind of neat. I couldn’t imagine McKellen as Dumbledore, although I’m sure he’d be great at it. As for Gandalf vs. Dumbledore – as others have said, it’s two totally different worlds with entirely different ideas of “magic”. (But I still go with Gandalf :D)

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Evreka said: “As for who would win, Dumbledore of course. He had the unbeatable wand…”

Grad said: “Dumbledore was much stronger than Gandalf…

And yes, Dumbledore DID die properly. If you don’t think so, then you didn’t understand the chapter “King’s Cross.”

I so agree to these two. lol.

@Jeannine : “Voltemort could have defeated Gandalf.”

I thought so, too.

Well, I love Gandalf. And I’m not underestemating his power and capability only that Dumbledore is much more accomplished than him. And much more talented than him. Lol. Imagine, no other wizard has the amazing ability to manipulate everyone around him but Dumbledore. But cheers to dumbledore. Everything is for the greater good!

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Ha lol that would’ve been a bit of an insult to his memory if he had taken the part! And anyway he’s right he’s been the wizard already! Leaky should make a poll: who would win in a duel Dumbledore or Gandalf! lol xxx

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Personally, I could care less about whether or not Dumbldore or Gandalf would even right. I love those two characters both separately and equally.

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Oh please! Gandalf doesn’t even need wands to do magic! I agree with Sir McKellen: Gandalf would absolutely win over Dumbledore…he is more than a wizard, he is something like a god-like character… nobody can beat him, nor even Sauron in my opinion… In my personal view of the characters, our wizards (DD, LV etc) are more like the elves in LotR, but even less powerful… so they would never have a chance to win over Gandalf…

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Apart from what I wrote above: I do love both of them, in the same way and for different reasons, as I do love both the series of the books. But for me DD would be the greatest wizard (and man) of the race of men (Gondorians, that is to say), but we cannot even do a comparison between him and Gandalf: Gandalf is not even human, is a pure and powerful entity from the world of eternity (Western Lands), sent to Middle-Earth to help Men, who were Ainur’s (God) favourite beings. In the mithology of LotR he is Jesus, who has to sacrifice himself (against the Balrog) to become more powerful (Gandalf the White) and beat evil (that is to say the Devil). Instead DD is the demiurge (God, we can say) while Harry is Jesus, the one who has to sacrifice himself for the sake of human kind.

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Neither would win. Merlin, anyone?

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I think Gambon is a better actor than McKellen. From what I’ve seen of them, Gambon seems more versatile. McKellen always plays the same guy, sometimes on the side of good, sometimes on the side of evil. I like Gambon as dumbledore, but he could do better, if he would try a little harder. And don’t get me started on Harris, because he was even worse. His performance was so old, dusty and unoriginal. Atleast Gambon has a orignal view on Dumbledore.

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Haha I love Ian so much!

But Dumbledore would totally win :D

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Gandalf would definitely win! He’s brilliant and Ian Mckellen is such a better actor than Gambon and dumbledoor is suppose to be gentle, funny and kind, gambon makes him scary and angry and waaaaaay to energetic. But yeah i love gandalf he’s the orginal and the best!

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Gandalf is the best! He would win, but dumbledoor does have an unbeatable want…hmm. Ian is a better actor too and would suit the role as dumbledoor much better than Gambon. Gambon acts him far to scary and moody and energetic, he’s meant to be funny and gentle and kind. And where are the important blue eyes? I love gandalf and Ian!

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Gandalf, the original?? hello??? Merlin!!!! Ian, didn’t you hear about Merlin?

Comparing all of them is stupid, they are based in different stories, so they have different powers, it’s impossible to know who would be more powerfull.

All we know is Harry would kick Frodo’s ass!!! ^^

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Dumbledore would take Gandalf to school, and feed him lunch! no contest.

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the ONLY thing I liked about the LOTR films was Gandalf. I find those films soul-less, the first film that is, as I never bothered with the rest.

I think Gandalf would beat Harris’s DD but might meet his match with Gambon’s.

Gambon is right is portraying DD as energetic as DD is always described as energetic in the books. Gambon’s also more eccentric than Harris, which is also right, though the scriptwriters could play that up more than they do. The ‘Brian’ bit in OotP was spot on (adding the chintz armchairs to that scene would have been perfect). The only problem is that Gambon’s anger is louder than in the books. In the books DD’s anger is terrifying but it is more the effect it has on the atmosphere, which might be difficult to get across on film.

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Seeing as I probably would not have even looked at this article due to the title if it were not for my cousins sitting next to me I would have to say w/o a doubt that Dumbledore would blow Gandalf away… however my cousin is in disagreement, but seeing as I am the one on the computer and he is not no one gives a crap about his opinion. So yes… I’m personaly grateful that Ian McKellen did NOT take over for Richard Harris because then I would have lost the bet where my cousin said they were the same person. ;) ($20 too);) But actually the last quote about publically saying how bad an actor he was made me laugh out loud… so ya that’s my opinion.

-HPfreak

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Well Dumbledore would NOT have needed a wand really either,as were also his powers beyond that. Were Gandolf truly of angelic decent his abilities would have helped him more with helping Froto to get where he needed to be , and he would have defeated his demomic advisary . He would also NOT have been captured by a weeker wizard and held captive.

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Well, I might be ever so slightly biased BUT Dumbledore PWN’s Gandalf. Sorry Sir Ian, I do love you and I loved seeing your Lear but Dumbledore would beat Gandalf with his eyes closed and a smile on his face.

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I just love Ian McKellen so, so much.

That’s all.

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Have you guys ever even READ LotR???? :) Of course Gandalf would win! He never used magic BECAUSE he was so powerful. So powerful that he could return from death.

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“Neither would win. Merlin, anyone?” -platinum_knowledge

Yes.

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The idea of McKellen as Dumbledore remains one of the most tantalising “what-ifs” I can think of, because I honestly think he could have been literally perfect. Across his recent career, (particularly as Gandalf the Grey in Fellowship of the Ring), he has shown himself capable of embodying every trait that defines Dumbledore – warm, comforting paternalism; commanding authority allied with a self-deprecating sense of humour; a youthful energy and quirky sense of fun despite his years; a hidden yet mainifestly evident potential for intimidating power. Gambon and Harris, between them, have managed to evoke these ideas at various points across their five performances, but never all at once in such a way that we’re convinced that they ARE Dumbledore; McKellen, I feel, could have done that. But oh well. He did a damn good “giant evil toad” in Flushed Away, so I’ll be happy with that. :)

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omg this is so funny! annyone has thefull interview or at least some more fragments?

as to the who-would-win part, i do like the both of them, but honsetly, dd is only a wizard8though a very able one im sure) gandalf on the other hand was way more than that, a maia, so not equal to any human being with magical power! dd rocks though^^ gandalf rules xD

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HAHAHÁ! McKellen is so idiot [;

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Haha! I love Ian McKellen. The man is fantastic.

I did think of McKellen as Dumbledore when Richard Harris died, but I think it would have been too soon and people, especially young kids, would have had a hard time distinguishing between Dumbledore and Gandalf.

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As for how the older actors treat the movies, I think Fiennes takes it very seriously. I was watching an interview where Fiennes discussed that he was very reluctant to play as Voldemort, one reason being he wasn’t that impressed with the first four Potter books. He also said that many close to him fell to either extreme, either saying he shouldn’t touch that role or saying it’s obvious he had to do it. Only when he told Newell of his difficulty in deciding and Newell showing concept art of how they wanted to go with the Voldemort aspect did Fiennes accept.

He, for one, takes the job seriously I feel. I do think his Voldemort is well done, too.

I digress.

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All we know is Harry would kick Frodo’s ass!!!

Yeah, but my 93-year-old grandmother could kick Frodo’s ass.

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“Were Gandolf truly of angelic decent his abilities would have helped him more with helping Froto to get where he needed to be , and he would have defeated his demomic advisary . He would also NOT have been captured by a weeker wizard and held captive.”

You are obviously not familiar with the legendarium of J.R.R. Tolkien. GandAlf was certainly of angelic descent and was one of the Maiar, the lesser Ainur (Angelic Spirits) and helpers of the Valar, the greater Ainur.

In the beginning the Ainur were in direct communication with the people of Middle-earth (most often Elves). This was changed at the end of the Second Age of the Sun, when the lands of the Ainur (Undying Lands, Lands of the West) were seperated from the Circles of the World (including Middle-earth).

In the Third Age of the Sun the Valar pittied the Mortal Men in their struggle against Sauron (who is also a Maia spirit, from the same order as Gandalf). However, the Valar now held a policy that prevented them from interfering directly with the course of events in Middle-earth (otherwise, they could have defeated Sauron easily). This policy was laid upon them by the One (Eru) himself, who was the Creator of the Universe and the Father of All (Illuvatar)

They were, however, allowed to send five Maiar-spirits to Middle-earth, in order to aid the race of Men. But they were forbidden to use direct force when summoning Men to fight against Sauron. Instead, they were stripped from most of their powers and were “incarnated” in the form of Men.

They were, however, still very powerfull. But, they do not use the same kind of “magic” that is used in Harry Potter. The rules of “magic” in Middle-earth were much different.

When you say that Gandalf was nearly defeated by a lesser wizard (I assume you mean Saruman) you’re missing an important point: Saruman was ALSO a wizard that was send from the Undying Lands, which means he was ALSO an angelic spirit.

Besides, he wasn’t even a lesser wizard: Saruman was the most powerful of the Wizards and accordingly held the title of “the White”. He lost this title when Gandalf was send back from death and was from that moment on called the White.

When comparing Gandalf and Dumbledore, everyone should admit that it’s impossible compare them! They were both among the most powerfull beings on (Middle-) earth, but from entirely distinct universes, with different sets of rules. So it may be fun to ask yourself “who will win the Gandalf vs Dumbledore battle”, but they could never have met. It’s the same as asking yourself if Voldemort could win a battle against Darth Vader, it’s nice to think about but it’s impossible and even a bit ridiculous to say that the one or the other would definitely win.

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I love Ian’s acting. I thought he played a great Gandalf and always wished he was Dumbledore. Although now I do think that would be a stretch… I mean if he showed up in an HP movie everyone would be thinking, “I didn’t know Gandalf was in the books!”

Anyway… I agree with him that Gandalf would win in a battle between two of the greatest wizards that ever were created… of coruse he has an advantage since he isn’t even human ;0) And he’s a lot older and wiser too… although if caught on a day when he was getting his pipe fix on the Shire’s best Dumbledore would have a chance, Gandalf would be too busy making smoke ships. LOL!

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I don’t think Gandalf and Dumbledore would ever fight … Perhaps they’d have a heated discussion and – after that – go to the pub and – after that – make the world a better place. :) (If there was a fight: Sorry, but Gandalf has powers Dumbledore knows not … ;) )

To the both portrayers of Dumbledore: I like aspects of both Harris’ and Gambon’s DD, but all in all, none of them is Dumbledore for me! :( The one I have always envisioned as Dumbledore is: Atticus Finch! :) As he was perfectly portrayed by Gregory Peck, I see Dumbledore played by Peck a dream come true … (I know, Peck is dead.)

Atticus Finch (as portrayed in the book as well as in the film) always had this silent power, wisdom and depth – he was “distantly caring”, sadly lonesome and still human with his mistakes …

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“Without mentioning any names, it has been said by the marvelous Maggie Smith -to give just one example -that the Harry Potter series is “her pension. Well thats all very good -but I do feel that both the source material and the scripts deserve more respect from these great British actors than perhaps they do. (I do exempt Maggie from this).”

@M Jones: I’m sure Maggie Smith will be very relieved to hear that you’ve given her dispensation!

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I’m a Dumbledore lover just like the next HP fan, but lets be realistic here… Gandalf would so kick his a$s in a duel lol

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I totally agree with whomever said : Merlin was the original Sir Ian needs to get his wizards in order and wipe the snide grin off his face.

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Dumby would soooooooooo kick Gandalf around! After all, Dumby has the unbeatable wand. BWHAHAHAHA.

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Richard Harris was always funny when interviewed and his denoucement of Sir Ian’s acting sounds like him. But he was not above critizing his own talents and films once saying “I’ve made about 70 films, 60 of which were crap”.

Sir Ian may blame R. Harris for not taking the role but I don’t think he had any intention of playing another wizard regardless.

Gandolf did slaughter that firey demon which was impressive but I think he would have met his match against Albus.

Also, Harris’ Dumbledore was not gay. The film Dumbledore did not become gay until he started wearing the Liberace rings, tying his beard into a pony tail and dressing like a hippie.

Just Kidding….

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Okay, okay, okay.

Gandalf had a staff that did some fiery stuff once in a while.

Dumbledore had a wand that completely pwned. all.the.time.

DONE; Dumbledore wins.

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Well, we ALL know it would go down like a classic DBZ fight scene.

That is, to say, days, weeks, months of fighting, blowing away the landscape, planet consuming fireballs, etc. Just as one wizard would be down for the count, he would make a comeback and beat down the other wizard who would then comeback and do the same.

This would have to happen AT LEAST 5 times. Then, just when you thought a winner would be declared one wizard would powerup to ‘Super-Ultra-Wizard 4 mode’ and the whole thing would start over.

Finally, after half a season, a winner would be declared and then the writers would start on ‘Harry Potter GT’ and ignore establish continuity.

But, no, Gandalf would totally win. :D

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Regarding Gandalf and his powers, here’s the gist. Gandalf had Super Awesome Powers. However, he was charged not to use his power, but instead to use his wisdom and counsel to guide the heroes on their destiny of defeating the Dark Lord. This is because using his Super Awesome Powers might have proved too tempting for Gandalf: he might have decided that he liked being in charge, and become a brand new Dark Lord himself.

I think Gandalf and Dumbledore would have a lot to talk about. I also like to think that they would be total BFFs.

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“I’m not sure Gandalf and Dumbledore would have taken an opportunity for a duel. Seeing as they were both on the side of Good, I think it more likely they would have sat around telling stories over a nice bottle of Ogden’s Firewhisky and some of the Shire’s best pipeweed. ;-)” I completely agree.

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this might be my favorite leaky comment board, ever.

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hahahaha! I have to admit, Gandalf would have beaten Dumbledore. He’s not even human, he’s an Istari and Dumbledore would have been the first to admit defeat to that. However, Dumbledore has a sense of humour. And I can understand what he says, mostly.

Avatar Image says: gandalf vs dumbledore, NOW that would be a pretty cool movie. ya'll seen what they can do, awesome, but dumbledore would most likely win, gandalf may be able to throw dumbledore around with his staff(like in the first rings movie)Avatar Image says: Oh come on, Dumbledore would kick Gandalf's arse and then some. Dumbledore knows some heavy magical stuff, Gandalf does what, smoke weed and make fireworks as a party trick! :D But Gambon just ISN'T Dumbledore in these movies, though he's not all bad, it probably would've been a great idea if he actually would skim through the books *sarcasm* I mean, wasn't it he who said he was gonna do "his own" Dumbledore? WELL DON'T! We want Dumbledore, ROWLING's Dumbledore, not Gambon's dd.Avatar Imagestevenk12468 says: Dumbledore would own Gandalf. Gandalf has been beaten by Sauromon. Dumbledore has never been beaten!!!Avatar Imagemarc123 says: and haha Dum ass was defeated by one of his studentes muahahhaha xDAvatar Imagemarc123 says: ok sorry guys for my english but i'm lebanese i'm a n1 fan of lord of the rings movies i watched all parts since 4 years and i keep watching it for know i just can't get bored of it well mostly cuz i love the elves and from heroes Haldir who died in the second movie and i have some advice for you guys first of all lol Saruman is a weaker wizard -.- Saruman was the master of all wizards in Lord of The rings and he had the title white wizard before gandalf -.- he was stronger than him and Dumbldore winning Gandalf that's stupid Gandalf was the wilder of the secret flame of arnor + the istari light and Immortal Dumbldore would dream of defeating him and if some of you guys watched the Lord of the rings the return of the king extended edition you saw the saruman fire bolt didn't effect Gandalf and Gandalf chasing the 3 nazguls and btw Dumbldore died while Gandalf died but he was sent back lol if Dumbldore has hes stupid wound he can't even think of defeating gandalf and if some of you play the game lord of the rings the battle for middle earth you can see that gandalf at lvl 10 could do a really awesome magic beside Avatar Imagemarc123 says: i bet saruman would kick dumbldores ass

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