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Detailed Report on "Order of the Phoenix" DVD Deleted Scenes and Extras
OotP FilmWith many thanks due to TLC reader Joanne, we now have a detailed report on some of the extras and deleted scenes due to be included on the "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" DVD. Joanne, who purchased the DVD last week as it was released in South Africa, sent in a breakdown of the many new things we will see. As there are a fair number of serious SPOILERS contained in the following report, if you wish to avoid them until the release in the UK on November 12 and in the US December 11, please stop reading now! However, those wishing to read details about the deleted scenes with Neville, Trelawney, Umbridge, the special feature with Tonks and more, scroll down. NOTE: Joanne was not able to yet access the link to the sneak peek to the upcoming "Half-Blood Prince" film.
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A breakdown of each of the deleted scenes contained on the "Order of the Phoenix" DVD are as follows (spoilers!)
The second disc menu opens with a sweeping shot of the Black Family Tree Tapestry – stunning! Though I couldn’t see much it moves quite quickly. There were tantalizing glimpses including – the Black Family Crest – a coat of arms topped by a skull, with three ravens and an armoured hand holding a wands, and the motto Toujours Pur. Plus all those names – the Prewitts, Weasleys, Tonks’s, Regulus and Sirius, and someone called Orion Walburg (1925-195/8?). The shot ends with Lucius and then great embroidered face of Draco Malfoy. The branches also have little skulls, dragons, Griffons, and a Snake on the branch. Then the menu comes (still in tapestry form) and you choose from: additional scenes,Trailing Tonks, Hidden secrets of HP, HP: the magic of editing
Trelawney Eating
An extended shot of Trelawney eating her way through her dinner while Umbridge is making her speech in the backgrounds. Obviously, the cameraman couldn’t move on because Emma is so truly hysterically funny. Lots of fumbling and bumbling (I won’t spoil it for you by giving you all the details). A lovely touch is the ironic counterpoint of Umbridge’s phrases ( “utmost seriousness, practices which must be pruned, improve what can be improved, etc.) with Trelawney’s muddled messes. What’s nice is that you get to see lovely details of the table settings.
Neville in Common Room
Additional bit (only a few seconds long) after Harry’s confrontation with Seamus in the Gryffindor common room, where Neville talks about it being the Daily Prophet that’s rubbish.
Gryffindor Common Room
This is one continuous sweeping shot of the common room taking in all the other students before coming to rest on Harry sitting alone in front of the fire. I think it is after the detention with Umbridge and before Harry’s chat on the sofa at the fire with Ron and Hermione. There are some delightful touches, including a couple snogging on the stairs, Nevillle tending his Mimbulus Mimbletonia, some girls plaiting each other’s hair, Seamus and Dean playing cards, and glimpses of the tapestries on the walls. They should definitely have kept this scene! It’s just a complete contrast to the horror Harry has just endured with Umbridge, and it emphasizes how alone and apart from other students Harry is, how much more serious his worries are.
Umbridge questions Trelawney during a dream interpretation class
This is a lovely scene, with a sarcastic Umbridge interrupting and generally terrorizing Trelawney. There are also some great cuts to Ron (canon Ron - yay!) and Harry. Harry shows more grim, adult-like expressions as we see his dawning realization of how cruel Umbridge is, how she enjoys her power, how she is beginning to interfere at Hogwarts. They have cut this longish scene up into short cuts which they have spliced into the Umbridge Montage in the final cut of the film. Although the gist of the scene is kept, the mounting/dawning realization of what is happening (“The Minister’s eyes and ears”), is lost. Slytherins are grinning in the background, enjoying the cruelty. I think this sets up their later conversion to the Inquisitorial Squad. The scene also sets up Trelawney’s dismissal very nicely
Umbridge and Filch
Just a few seconds of Umbridge and Filch looking down from a high tower or balcony while some Slytherins (including Draco, Crabbe and Goyle) bully a young Ravenclaw student in the quad below. The scene shows her tolerance of evil as long as it supports her domination of the school, and her natural inclination to sadism, but not much is lost by omitting this from the movie.
Filch and Umbridge’s hair
Filch sniffing then blowing on Umbridge’s still smoking hair (after the fireworks)
Extended forest scene with Umbridge, Hermione and Harry
A longish scene in which Umbridge explains herself more, justifies her actions, and tries to elicit sympathy from Harry and Hermione. She winds up crying “Look what you’ve done to me, I cannot take it anymore!”
Harry in DD’s office
After the battle at the ministry, a rather battered Harry enters Dumbledore’s office. There are nice details of the office, the whirring and clicking instruments, the Gryffindor sword (I think – though it looks a little plain) on the desk, and cabinets full of mysterious objects in the background. But sadly (sigh) Harry does not go mad with grief and rage and smash things up. Harry spots the sorting hat again, then angrily turns to walk out but is called by back by DD.
Harry packing
Extended version of the scene in which Harry is packing to go home. Ron comes in and Harry tells him to go on to the feast without him (Harry). Ron returns to Hermione in the common room, and just shrugs in response to her enquiring glance. Nice canon Ron, good emphasis of Harry’s grief and aloneness, but to my taste, the poignancy of the scene is lost when Hermione half smiles in response to Ron’s shrug.
TRAILING TONKS
A high Energy Natalia Tena roams around Leavesdon Studios, using a marauder’s map type effect to show the viewer which department will be viewed next. We get to see her: in hair and make-up, the sound desk on one of the sound stages (not much to see there), the canteen, singing while playing a guitar in her trailer, cuddling the boarhound who plays Fang, Matt Lewis and Alfie Enoch (Dean) playing some cricket out on a nearby field, art departments – with a model of Kreecher’s head and one of the brooms, and brief views of some models of the set (e.g., atrium of the Ministry, Hogsmeade Village), graphics dept where we see Daily Prohpet newspapers, Sirius “Wanted” Poster, Marauders’ Map (yay!), special FX dept (wands, locking door from Gringotts movie I, prophecy ball, sound stage with fighting (wand dueling) training session, soundstage in the room of requirement, brief chat with Dan. Here everyone was wearing wierd blue surgeon-type shoes (so as not to muck up set floor?) Grimmauld Place kitchen and house (super-brief) Ministry atrium with set men scattering the floor with the shattered glass, model shop (centaurs, Mimulus Mimbletonia)
extra feature “Secrets of HP”
Narrated by the sexy-voiced Jason Isaacs (I knew you’d like that, Sue!), this is a long feature along main HP themes (e.g., Things are not what they seem; Choice; Pride and Prejudice; Battle for Harry;
It includes: cuts and a few stills from all the movies so far,brief comments by all the major cast members (except Gambon ), David Heyman, and David Yates. Also no Alan Rickman (maybe he was still sitting on his Snapey secrets!) and theorizing by commentators including Jane Scott Batchler (author of “What will Harry Do?”), John Granger (author “Unlocking Harry Potter) and a fair few comments from Steve Vander Ark. No new movie material (I think). It gives the backstory of Harry, and his connection to Voldemort, his developing identity, etc.It’s a nice feature, though it could have been more in-depth for the true fan’s liking.
Extra feature: "Harry Potter and The magic of editing"
This is a shortish featurette on the difference that editing, visual effects, music and sound can make to a scene, with an interactive exercise at the end where you can choose the edits and accompanying sound and music for a scene (DA practice). I couldn't get this "game" feature to work, but this may be due to deficiencies in my DVD player, or my (non-existent) gaming ability.
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@hermionetwin- What I mean was get the fake locket in the cave in HBP. Like I said they could just cut out the whole Umbridge storyline and have Harry looking in Regulus’ room and then Kreacher appears and Harry asks him if he knew Regulus. Thus, the locket.
Oh, and Erik was right. Bunch of comments about Snape Worst Memory even though they’re saving it for DH so obviously they won’t show it. Use common sense people.
Very disappointing extras. The deleted scenes sound negligible, and we aren’t getting any of the important ones (Snape’s worst memory, etc.). What makes it worse is that we know they shot this—why wouldn’t they just give it to us? The only feature of substance is the Secrets of Harry Potter one, which sounds like it’s exactly the same as the special on A&E that was shown when OotP came out in July. We’ve already seen that one (in fact I saved it to DVD from the television—what a waste of time that turned out to be). Finally, and most inexcusable of all, no “Conversations With the Cast”? No interview with the director, for crying out loud? I though WB had made a huge leap forward in the quality and quantity of extras on the GoF DVD. This is just a huge let-down :(
Does Anybody else miss the Sirius Bella duel? and yes I heard about the interviews with Gary, Alan and Dan too, so why arnt they in there- I really want to hear from Alan because Snape is my favorite wizard and by now I’m sure you know my favorite witch-( shes a little demented )
Looking forward to the DVD , I dont care what anyone else says I will make my own appraisal. Good luck all .
WHERE IS SNAPE’S WORST MEMORY?? I know other people are asking this question but it bears screaming again. They filmed it-they filmed it!!!! We have all seen that still with the teenage Lily. They filmed, then butchered one of the most pivotal moments in the entire series and then come out with a DVD with Filch extras-SERIOUSLY? SERIOUSLY Someone opined that WB might be saving it for the Prince’s Tale in Deathly Hallows. That would be OK, but I will not hold my breath.
Has anyone heard any Narcissa casting news? Until we do, I have to assume Spinner’s End will be cut from the 6th movie.
As some of you have said, I would also love to hear the delectable Alan Rickman speak about Snape, but honestly, why should he bother? JKR gave him this rich, complex, fascinating man, but the filmakers give him almost nothing to do.
It seems WB is really focused on the kids-the trio and other students. Many of the adult characters have full stories, rich histories and complex, nuanced characters and motivations, but unless they directly serve or relate to Harry, it is cut. That’s a shame. Despite the perception of the non-HP reading population, we know that the HP books are not merely kids books-but to look at the movies, you’d never know it.
My apologies for the crossed out lines. I don’t know why it does that. Must remember to never use a hyphen here again.
OMG! Haven’t read any of the other comments (yet) ‘cause I’m on my “way” to Amazon.com (and anywhere else I can think of) to pre-order (if I can!) I hope this is for the “regular” DVDs! Too cool! *D
i’m still pissed that they’re not releasing SWM or the sirius bella duel… like unbelievably pissed to the point where i’m not even sure i want the thing anymore. just feels like a slap in the face to fans
Well, I’m back from my “journey”...Both Yahoo!Movies and Amazon.com are offering ‘Harry Potter and The Order Of The Phoenix’ for “pre-order” Amazon does NOT give a price for either the Two-Disk DVD (with all the special stuff) or the “basic” DVD….Yahoo!Movies gives a “basic price” (what the starting price should be) $22.40 for the Two Disk (with all the features) and $ 22.51 for the “basic, widescreen”. That’s all from the Internet…Check your “local listings” for other prices! I’m getting my set from Amazon, I think. It apparently is out for Pre-sale, kids! Better order now, or you won’t see it before New Years (I’m pretty sure!)
This is off the topic but as someone mentioned above they havent told us who is playing Narcissa and I am positve that Spinners End is in the movie it seems crucial to see the unbreakable vow and its really the only scene that Bellas in. But they should get on the ball and let us know the cast of new characters already!
@Bellasnape- They aren’t filming Spinner’s End until the spring so they might not announce Narcissa until then.
@Grader: Yes, I guess you’re right, they can introduce the locket that way, but it’s not the same. One of the best parts after the 6th book was released was guessing what all the Horcruxes might be, but it seems like the movies are deviating from the books more and more.
I am also disappointed about Snape’s memory not being included, but if it was filmed, then I am sure it will be in the 6th movie. Has anyone else noticed that with each DVD there seems to be less and less bonus features? I think that by now the people in charge have realized that fans will buy the DVD even if there weren’t any bonus features included, so why bother spending more money to make more features? After all, bonus features are just incentives for purchasing the DVD, when you can watch the movie on a cable channel or On Demand or something. It doesn’t make sense because they make more and more money with each film, so they should have more content, but oh well. No matter; I cannot wait for my DVD to come!
thanks for sharing these, Joanne! Nice. =)
This caught my attention:
Nice canon Ron, good emphasis of Harry’s grief and aloneness, but to my taste, the poignancy of the scene is lost when Hermione half smiles in response to Ron’s shrug.
at least i know that that’s Emma Watson who half-smiled, NOT the real Hermy. sigh
Just to answer some questions in the comments: There are definately no deleted scenes involving Snape’s worst memory. While there are no Conversations With The Cast, there are lots of comments from cast members (including Gary Oldman, Dan, both Emmas, Rupert, Imelda Staunton, etc), plus the producer and director, in the section “Secrets of HP” and a few in HP: Magic of Editing. There may be a brief glimpse of dueling, but no long scene of Bella and Sirius duelling.
I eventually got the links to work, (they are on DVD Rom material), but the link labelled Sneak Peak (no mention of HALF BLOOD PRINCE Sneak Peak)simply takes you to the Warner Bros HP websites, with trailers of Phoenix and previous movies. So unless they update this when the DVD is released in the States, it isn’t to do with HBP. Maybe the journalist got it wrong. I don’t see how this DVD could contain HBP material, since they hadn’t started filming yet when DVD went to production.
The extra stuff is a lot of fun, but I just know that the true HP fan would love it in much much more detail. All of the set visits, comments, etc. are so very brief. I would have liked longer, fuller, much more detailed interviews with cast and crew. And, of course, a commentary! Hey Pottercast Trio – we’d love a fan commentary!
Wow I can’t wait to get the movie. The part with Natalia Tena sounds interesting.
Wow I can’t wait to get the movie. The part with Natalia Tena sounds interesting.
wow i can’t wait to buy my copy of the dvd and burn it. seriously, like the movie wasn’t bad enough on its own. these deleted scenes suck. i don’t care about seeing trelawney eating or pointless camera shots. i thought if they included some extended scenes and possible important deleted scenes, than that might have save the movie. WB have just made a powerful enemy.
No extended SWM? Fine, I will save money though! No Snape, no Harry Potter!
Am I the only one who’s disapointed because they cut the scene in witch hagrid was fired. I saw pics of maggie smith in a wheelchair, so where is that scene? It was really the only thing I mist in the movie. I know they can’t put in everything, but that scene was so tragic and powerfull.
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Utterly rubbish that the Worst Memory is not included.