It becomes that the moment Harry says she’s a sister to him. I’m not saying the audience is going to be really grossed out about it or something. Likely they’re going to see it exactly as you said- something that turned into easygoing Ron into someone desperate. However, I think that will dissuade it being a “hot kiss.”

The scene as a whole is definitely more about Harry and Ron, and that’s why I love it. I’m a huge sucker for their relationship. It’s really powerful. It’s also about his family, where he’s always felt inadequate. Hermione too, although she loves him, has not helped this along. She also underestimates him- the Prefect scene in OotP, the Felix Felicis scene in HBP, the “tone of surprise” scene after the seven Potters in DH. In DH she comes to appreciate him as he is and see that he is a hero to, not to be underestimated. It is an undertone but it is there. However, the kiss aspect is there purely because Ron loves Hermione. There would be absolutely zero reason for that kiss to be there were it not for RHr. The riddle!HHr kiss is in essence, an RHr scene.

I had a much better reply to this written but the comment did not go through and I forgot to copy it. Ah well.

D’you know, I don’t recall the importance of Ron’s family is to him at that momemt, nor those other examples that you speak of. (eh, of course i’m more interested in Harry’s story). I do recall that it is his underlying feelings of inadequacy compared to Harry that comes out, that his fear that Hermione would/should/could prefer Harry. Yes, the kiss has to be hot, as a peck on the cheek isn’t going to cut it, sorry. The kiss is the ultimate in bringing about the resolvement of who stands where in the TRIO relationship, so the H/hr kiss is very important. This is still very much Harry’s story and like i have said, it reveals to the audience H/Hr relationship. Also, what stood out for me, is the strength of mind Ron has to understand he has to destroy the locket, that the duo standing before him aren’t real. If memory serves, he didn’t attack them, he struck the locket.

@Kelly: I respect your opinion. You’ve made your point. I’m just hoping that DH Movie won’t turn out to be like OoTP Movie, that’s all. I know alot of people like Ootp, but I don’t. I was disillusioned. I wanted to see Lily, but nope they didn’t show her in the movie.. dobby as well… I want to see Dobby on DH Movie… oh, well.

Radcakes: I was talking about his self-demeaning views connected to his family, which is absolutely in the scene. This has always been part of Ron’s issues. He is the sixth of seven kids and every person in his family has already done anything admirable he could do. It’s right here. After “I have seen your heart and it is mine” it’s actually the first thing the horcrux says-

“Least loved, always by the mother who craved a daughter.”

As for the other examples, well I quoted the books they’re in but- the first one is in “The Woes of Mrs. Weasley,” the second one is in “Felix Felicis” in HBP, and the third is in “Fallen Warrior” in DH.

There’s a lot of stuff that should be in the movies but isn’t. I’m not saying the kiss is not important at all, but if one kiss were cut- it is absolutely the least important of them. The scene might not be as powerful without it, but it still stands. That was really my initial argument and still is.

I agree with radcakesfan that the R:H/R:Hr kiss is necessary. That’s what drives Ron on to destroy the thing. And I think it HAS to be gross – it’s an exaggeration designed to taunt Ron, and is coming from his paranoid mind. In the book I imagine it as quite lewd actually, with riddle:hermione sort of entwined (snake-like) around riddle:harry. So in my eyes it needs to end in a kiss. In Ron’s paranoid mind he had probably imagined that Harry and Hermione were getting off with each other since he left them.

But I guess the film-makers will be too scared and draw a line at just a cuddle and leery glances.

completely off topic I know, but I’ve already commented on the news :)

oh yeah (these posts are coming thick and fast I missed the last few writing mine!)- I agree with you Kelly that the family bit is equally important part of the scene. But I do think you need both bits of the scene.

I think the kiss that is really gratuitous is the R/Hr kiss. They just need to show them arm in arm at the last or whatever, but they don’t need to show her jumping into his arms as they do in the book. As the house elves issues were backstoried/not an issue, I think it would be hard to bring it up. It would come out of nowhere so to speak. This is not saying that the r/hr relationship is not an issue, they will show it to do the happilyeverafter bit, but the kiss itself..eh.

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first stop Top Movie Franchise, next…..WORLD DOMININATION!

“Why would the WB publicize something that isn’t really true? To ignore inflation is to cheat to get the result desired.”

The sad truth Susan is that they do it because most people will not see past the headline (just look at some of the responses among these comments for proof of that!), and “WB Makes Big Money” is the message WB want everyone to hear.

Only three films of the last fifteen years have broken into the adjusted All-Time Top 20: “Titanic”, “Jurassic Park”, and “Star Wars The Phantom Menace”.

The chance of the “Harry Potter” series final adjusted gross exceeding that of the “Star Wars” series is very, very slim indeed, even with the advantage of having one more film!