Blu-Ray Format DVDs Exclusive to WB Releases Starting Mid 2008

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Jan 05, 2008

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Warner Bros. has announced their decision to exclusively release all future High Definition editions of their films in the Blu-ray format DVDs, and no longer produce the HD DVD versions, starting later this year. The decision was reached, they say, “in response to consumer demand” as a “strategic decision focused on the long term and the most direct way to give consumers what they want.” WB also states that they ‘will continue to release its titles in standard DVD format and Blu-ray. After a short window following their standard DVD and Blu-ray releases, all new titles will continue to be released in HD DVD until the end of May 2008.’ While not explicitly mentioned in the press release, it would seem, based on this decision, the future releases of ‘Harry Potter’ DVDs will not be in HD DVD.

Many thanks to Zach for the heads up!





95 Responses to Blu-Ray Format DVDs Exclusive to WB Releases Starting Mid 2008

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ummm.. At the risk of sounding technologically incompetent, what is Blu-ray format?

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Hey Ahslee… blu-ray is a new Panasonic form of DVD which is clearer than HD and more crips… it is the best high definition source there is out there. In order to play Blu-Ray you need a Blu-Ray player because only a Blu-Ray player can properly read the Blu-Ray lasered digital information on the disc.

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Blu-Ray format is basically a brand of high definition movie, which means that the picture that is outputted from the movie is a much higher quality and higher quality of sound as well. However, in order to take advantage of this, you would need a High Definition Television and a Blu-Ray Player, both of which are very expensive. Movie studios have either sided with HD-DVD (which is lead by Toshiba) and Blu-Ray (which is lead by Sony). Despite their efforts to boast that their picture and sound is better than the other, they are both pretty much the same. It’s too bad they decided to do this. I think supporting both is actually better for the consumer personally, but hey what do I know. I bought the whole set of Harry Potter movies in HD DVD when it came out. Now I’ll have to buy it on Blu-Ray…luckily I just got a PS3 but I’ll probably have to buy the whole set when the 6th movie comes out. I guess I kinda figured it would happen eventually though seeing as Disney sided with Blu-Ray early on. For those who remember back in the day, Disny sided with VCR over Beta tapes and look what happened then.

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Another deciding factor in the VHS vs Beta war was that Beta tried to take the high ground while VHS took the “adult” film contracts. Early on in the Blu Ray vs HD format war it seemed that HD would win as Blu Ray was deciding not to release pr0n. They changed their mind… not that anyone really needs “adult” films in HD… eww.

Bottom line, a Blu Ray disc can hold 5x the capacity of a regular DVD, whereas HD DVD can only hold 3x as much data. So if Blu Ray truly wins this format war I think it would be beneficial to the consumer, as HD DVD seemed to only be an intermediary step of format transition.

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I would also like to add that as soon as this format war is finally decided with finality (some think this announcement clinches it) I am dying to dial in my own HD home setup and buy all those newly released HD Potter films that taunt me every time I go to the electronics store.

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Hell…if I’m only gonna be able to get HiDef Harry Potter 6 and 7 on Blu Ray…Methinks I shall be buying myself a PS3 in the near future (been on the fence for a while). I’d always hoped BluRay would win anyway just because it had the most capacity. This might be the clincher…xD

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This is all just lame, this whole HD war is stupid. What I hope to do is wait till the war is over and collect the spoils, every consumer should do this. It’s better than spending 600-700 dollars on both of the HD formats just so you can get HiDef movies from all the studios.

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Blu Ray is the better format. It’s hard to see the difference, but the quality is better. Blu Ray discs hold up to 50GB right now, where as an HD-DVD can only hold around 30GB. Blu Ray is also set up so that they can expand on it. They currently have multi-layered Blu Rays coming out that can hold up to 100GB, and they are working on a 200GB Blu-Ray. The players have come down in price as well. Toshiba has a player for only $250. Another good feature about Blu Ray is it has a protective coating that resists scratches and dust. Blu Ray players will play regular DVD’s as well. My only suggestion is that if you want to play burned Blu-Ray discs get a PS3. For some reason the 80GB PS3 has an easier time playing a burned Blu-ray disc. Also only Universal and Paramount make HD-DVD now, EVERYONE else makes Blu Ray. Even Blockbuster Video rents out Blu-Ray’s now, but not HD-DVD.

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YAY for Blu-Ray!

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This is why I’m not investing in either format just yet. Would rather wait til one wins and market settles down…

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I agree with Blime…. if we all wait till they decide, then they’ll have to bring the price down… and I’m always up for a bargin. Here in Australia,The PS3 haas already come down in price by $200-$300A since its release. I’m still not giving in to my pleading children yet! Besides by the time Deathly Hallows comes out on DVD you’ll be able to by all 7 in a boxed set in the “super” format and hapefully by then it will be heaps cheaper!

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i think this is probably the best news for all Playstation 3 owners. In fact, assuming Blu Ray is the winning format, P3 owners will have saved $200+ at some point from buying a HD DVD player if HD DVD was the eventual winner.

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And THAT’S why I refuse to even think of sticking my toe in the water yet. Just remember, all of these “exclusives” will end up being re-released on the other format just as soon as one format ends up the victor.

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HMMM….Well, the reason I got my first DVD player was for the release of Harry Potter and the Sorceror’s Stone. First of all I am going to see who wins in the latest format fight. (Remember Beta, Laser Disc, VHS, 8-tracks, cassettes…?) Secondly, if they come out with a boxed set of the Director’s Cuts of all 7 Harry Potter movies on Blu-Ray … I may have to update to Blu-Ray. BUT until then …. DVD is fine with me! :-) Besides by then the price will have gone down, they will have worked out all the bugs in the system, and the format dust-up will have calmed.

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I reading WB told us. WB decide to choice Blue-ray, because he very confuse the HD DVD and blue-ray. So, WB plan to first Blue-ray then will do next HD DVD later release date. That what I heard and i understand.

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It is not fair that WB only is choosing to make Blue Ray DVDs and regular DVDs. My parents have an HD tv and at the moment HD is more practical. Blue Ray is just too expensive so to choose not to supply the middle man HD DVDs will probably be a huge mistake in the long run. Most people have HD and they will not go Blue Ray untill the prices go down so thats that.

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I, myself, have a PS3 and am siding with Blu-Ray obviously, but I think the main benefits of Blu-Ray in the near future will be more useful to gaming than it will be to movies. As a result, it didn’t really matter to me that I chose a side early and might lose out, because at least my games have the potential to be bigger and better (without taking up several discs). I only wish PS3 would utilize this benefit a bit more and also that the PS3 was easier to code for (obviously there were issues, as shown by the lack of titles it launched with)

As for HP on blu-ray, I just bought it at Target. I got a $5 gift certificate for buying the Blu-Ray version, which was exactly $5 more than the comparable DVD version, so it would have been a bit of a waste to buy the DVD. Once one format wins, discs will saturate the market and become cheaper. DVDs have definitely come down in price in the last ten years. Anyway, I don’t blame anyone who wants to wait out to the battle. You could save a lot of money (but my hubby and I would have missed a lot of gaming time if we hadn’t bought in early).

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Can anyone tell me if the HP blu-ray version has more BTS compare to the regular DVD, I got the PS3 and I want to know if it is worth to ge the HP blu-ray

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Just to clear up some confusion (or to make things more confusing). First of all, Blu-ray and HD-DVD both produce an “HD” (High Definition) picture. Any High Definition TV will be able to display the output of either player. Second, the low-priced Toshiba player is an HD-DVD player, not a Blu-Ray (the least expensive Blu-ray player is still over $300). Third, technically, the picture from both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD players will be the same. They both use the same codec to process video. While the Blu-ray holds more data, the actual movie portions of a Blu-ray and HD-DVD discs would be the same size, minimizing the importance of the extra storage space.

Clear as mud? That’s why I’m staying clear of both until a victor appears. Actually, neither may win. By the time this settles out, another format may take hold (like downloading content instead of having a physical disc).

Also, I was hoping HD-DVD would win, since Sony (the creator of Blu-ray) has a track record of implementing anti-consumer technologies (google “Sony” and “root-kit”).

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To Herminny (and anyone else): I think there’s some confusion. HD TV’s can play whatever format of dvd is sent to it. It’s the format of the DVD player that determines what type of disk you need to buy. The current standard is DVD. The high-def choices are HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. Either can be played on an HD TV (and nearly all tv’s sold today are HD compatible). Blu-Ray players right now run a bit more money than HD-DVD, but not buy much (and look into the PS3: it’s well priced and you get the added benefits a game player). The disks themselves are are priced about the same. Frankly, I think there’s no question at this point: Blu-Ray is winning. I bought myself a Blu-Ray player right before Christmas (the PS3), and this news today just confirms that I made the right choice.

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Herminny, what kind of TV your parents have doesn’t matter, its the player that makes the difference.

And if you were to go research the numbers, more people have Blu-Ray as opposed to HD. The sale of actual Blu-Ray and HD players is neck and neck but then add all the people who have bought the PS3 with the Blu-Ray player built in and the number of people capable of playing Blu-Ray discs doubles.

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I know that and I am sorry I did not make it clear that I meant DVD player for HD. I can believe the race is neck and neck concidering gamers and the PS3 that can play Blue Ray DVDs but still for none gamers Blue Ray is still too high a price to pay and some people with sense can’t afford it and still want good picture quality it’s not fair.

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Well luckily I haven’t bought a HD or blu-ray player yet. I was waiting to see which one would end up most popular. I don’t really care, but I was secretly hoping HD would win because blu-ray sounds such a stupid name. :P

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this is bs.

the widespread rumor as to why WB is switching their allegiance, is that sony is paying WB a TON of money, like in the range of 450 million dollars. the BS about backing the “clear winner” or whatever the quote was, is a complete and utter lie.

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We don’t have a TV and only watch DVDs on our computer. I hope there will still be something for us!

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I too have heard the rumour of 500 million being given to WB.

WB and Fox were in negotations to go exclusively HD-DVD, but Sony apparently stepped in.

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There are hd-dvd and blue-ray (and a few hybrid) drives available for computers. They are not cheap however.

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A lot of the facts being said here bout the difference between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are quite out of date, the differences between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are almost completely non existent now days due to the fact that Blu-Ray discs did not end being able to hold 50 gigs like they were expected to, in fact HD-DVD are sometimes even thought to be superior to Blu-Ray now days because of certain encoding and disc creation methods used.

Check out the High Def forums at http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/ if you want to know more about the actual facts between the two formats and their respective players and discs.

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A few things:

1. Blu-ray is not better than HD-DVD in terms of picture quality. The encoding for most releases is the same, therefore the picture has to be the same. It’s a myth.

2. Blu-ray has high capacity and a few other benefits, but we’re only talking small potatoes.

3. This is not “better for the consumer” at all. It’s simply that Sony has slipped some money or agreements in WB’s direction and they’ve caved. That’s all it’s about. The best thing for the consumer is to have choices, and unless every company sides with Blu-ray it won’t end the war.

4. The thing that will more than likely decide the format war, is which one brings HD to the mass-market. When they start producing good HD players at mass-market prices and people really begin to pick sides, then we’ll find out. It’ll probably come down to price. Company decisions like this determine very little unless they become extremely unbalanced and for the moment there is plenty of backing for HD-DVD to keep it afloat. The PS3 is the thing that’s made the biggest difference in the story so far, and that’s because of the number of people who bought it- closing in on the mass market.

From my point of view this is a particular pain in the bum because we’ve just bought a HD-DVD player. I didn’t care too much if I had to switch to blu-ray in the end, but this basically means I’m going to be wanting a blu-ray player when HBP comes out… I was hoping we wouldn’t have to switch for at least a few years. Damn them.

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OMG, I bought an HD-DVD player this morning. Someone just shoot me now.

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“the widespread rumor as to why WB is switching their allegiance, is that sony is paying WB a TON of money, like in the range of 450 million dollars”

Uh, the same rumor is that the HD-DVD camp was offering almost the same amount of money, and this was after Paramount/Dreamworks got around $140-150M for switching to HD-DVD only. So criticizing WB for this is akin to Louie’s reason for closing Rick’s in Casablanca. (Being shocked to find there is gambling going on there, right before he is given his winnings.)

Also, even with Toshiba slashing the price of their entry level player this past Xmas, Blu-Ray discs outsold HD-DVD ones by about a 2:1 margin in the US, and the margin overseas is even larger. (http://www.thedigitalbits.com)

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So what’s the difference between HD and SD(DVD quality)? Blu ray and HD DVD use either X264 or VC-1 compression and DVD’s use MPEG2. X264 and VC-1 are based on MPEG4 which can handle bitrates up to 36MB on Blu-ray and 30MB on HD DVD. VC-1(crappy) is less complex than x264 and it was invented by Micro$t which is why it is even used. MPEG4 handles resolutions up to 1920×1200 in progressive frames while DVD’s use 720×480 so you do need a FullHD television to experience the full glory of the HD formats. While Blu-ray can use higher bitrates than HD DVD the picture quality between the two is pretty much the same since Blu ray can store a lot more data than HD DVD it has more room for extras and uncompressed audio. I remember a movie whose blu-ray version contained 7.1 channel PCM audio while the HD DVD used a compressed audio format. The only problem with Blu-ray is that it uses region codes and a more advanced copyright protection methods (which already have been broken) but still. The consumer market in mind it is very important that the movie industry picks a single format, so that the consumers don’t end up buying hardware that will be quickly obsolete. I’m afraid the future looks grim for a HD DVD, I do have an XBOX360 cause it kicks PS3’s ass but I haven’t bought the HD DVD drive for it. DO NOT BUY A BLU RAY OR HD DVD PLAYER YET! Wait for the market to choose which one it uses, most of the Blu ray players on the market are buggy and unfinished yet. They don’t support all HD audio formats and use an old version of the HDMI. Look for HDMI 1.3a to know you are buying the real thing. Most the blu ray players are slow too. The best Bluray player out there is actually the PS3 which ain’t sayin’ too much. Another good feature is 24p if you have a tv that supports it that is. It means that it can display the movie at it’s natural frame rate rather than submitting it to Pull-Down which converts the frame rate by adding the necessary pictures which makes the movement jittery as it just displays copied frames unevenly. One frame will be show thrice and the second frame only twice.

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Yo Nancy, you can watch HD movies on your PC too. You monitor actually already is HD, all you need is a Blu-ray or HD DVD drive for you pc and a good processor and gfx card.

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Does anyone know if Xbox 360 playes Blu-ray?

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Herminny- Having HDTV does not mean that you can just play HD DVDs. You have to have an HD DVD player… which is just as expensive as BlueRay. The reason that the studios (I believe only Paramount is still doing HD DVDs now) have chosen to go stictly with BlueRay is because it’s proving more popular with consumers. There was bound to be a winner between the two and now the light at the end of the tunnel is starting to show… BlueRay.

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Sorry, Herminny. I hadn’t seen page 2.

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we’ve a PS3 and bought OotP on blu-ray, and it’s amazing!!!! i highly recommend it. (we also have at worlds end on blu-ray, and may i say that johnny depp and orlando are so beautiful up close and personal. he he)

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exactly what IS the difference between a blue-ray, hi-def & a regular dvd?

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Sorry! but no dice.

I will stick with what I already have. To hell with progress and exploitation.

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Hello, has anyone heard what people said, WB will still be making the DVD version and that’s enough, can u see the person, can u hear them and is the picture good? right so until they stop making DVD which will be a while, people aren’t going to buy the BLU-Ray or HD DVD player unless they’re showing off or forced. Otherwise theirs no reason for example, my dad just bought Blue-ray for my stepmom, and she didnt even want it, but he bought it all because he likes to show off to his neighbors.

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I haven’t read all the posts, so be patient, if I’ve said the same thing others have already said: My hubbie (a Computer Operator/Engineer) tells me (the technically challenged) that it’s pretty much this way: Blue-Ray is to standard DVD, what DVD was to VHS. You can’t play it on a standard DVD player. (PS3 takes them, by the way) Blue-ray players will, most likely, be less expensive than current DVD players. They may also be (as in the case of the PS3) compatible with current DVD. Unlike the VHS, which (for Captain Obvious, here) you could not play DVD’s on!

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HD-DVD is much better than Blu-Ray. My mom did a ton of research, and not only is HD cheaper, but the picture quality is better (my mom compared a movie in HD and in Blu-Ray and thought the HD looked better).

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@PigmyPuffPie: It is my understanding (correct me, someone, if I’m wrong) but Xbox 360 does NOT play Blue-ray (or any other type of DVD other than it’s own CURRENT games…ones created, just for Xbox 360)

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PigmyPuffPie: Xbox 360 has no Blu-ray functionality. You can buy a separate HD-DVD add-on for the system (Microsoft are one of the key players behind that format), which costs about $100, I think, but that’s an optional extra; the standard 360 drive only accepts regular DVDs. The PS3, on the other hand, utilises Blu-Ray technology for its games, and therefore also works as a Blu-Ray movie player as standard.

In any case, I think I’m like most people in that I don’t really care which format wins, as long as one of them does in the near future. I’m a sucker for picture and sound quality, and we’ve just bought an HDTV, so naturally we’d very much like to start upgrading our movie collection to HD, but we simply don’t have the time, money, space or patience to buy two different players and start two different disc collections, in the knowledge that one of them is likely to become obsolete in the next year or so anyway. I’m not 100% clued up on the pros and cons of the two formats – Blu-Ray sounds like it’s technically superior, but HD-DVD sounds more user-friendly, particularly as regards its lack of the hated region encoding – but as I said, I don’t really care at this point, because I don’t have any control over which format wins anyway. I just want a format that I can be confident in; for me, having two formats is as bad as having none at all. If WB’s announcement helps turn the tide permanently, so much the better…

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Oh, and just to slightly correct Confederate Lady’s post slightly (as she requested! :) ), in addition to the optional HD-DVD functionality, the 360 does also play regular DVDs and most original Xbox games as standard.

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Big deal. Okay, I’ll admit that the HD wave will overtake everything, eventually, but I haven’t been transferring all my tapes to DVD just to be told that the DVD is on the way out. But you know what? Even in this increasingly digital age, you can still buy Betamax tapes, audio cassettes, and VHS tapes for recording (Tivo this!). Regular DVDs will not disappear even if the Blu-Ray becomes the media of choice. And that’s what I like about the Web (besides the Leaky Cauldron)- you can find anything there (including analog media) at a decent price even if your local shops no longer carry it.

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I know this might sound random and that I’m supposed to talk about WB going to Blu-Ray exclusively, but I have a question that I really want answered. I’m planning on getting an HDTV. I want to get a Sony LCD HDTV. I have a friend that works at Fry’s and he says that Sony makes the best HDTVs. So I think that if he works at a store that sells HDTVs that he would have to know. Either that or it’s because his dad works for LG, a company that makes HDTVs. Not only does he say that Sony makes the best HDTVs, but I have read very good reviews for Sony HDTVs. For those people who have an HDTV, what kind of HDTV do you have and what brand is it, and would you agree that Sony is the way to go?

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Grrr… I have never been a big fan of Sony. So it looks like I will stick to SDTV versions of the HP movies, unless I happen to buy a laptop that is everything I want but can only be had with a Blu-Ray drive, then I might get the BR versions of the movies. Unless I can find a BR/HD compatible set top DVD player. No I will not buy a PS3. Ever. Course, I will buy BR stuff if it does eventually win this format war. Sony lost the Betamax/VHS fight, they prolly dont want to lose another format war.

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..harry potter is a very nice film… harry potter is a very xciting ..all of the actor and actress is very nice in acting i love harry potter ..and i like daniel radcliffe and emma watson..

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So, basically, Warner Bros. (and apparently New Line) is working with Blu-Ray to get people to spend $400+ on a Blu-Ray player to replace their recently purchased HD DVD players. Companies will do anything to make money, including spitting on the customers they depend on.

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Alicia,

hi – def is a higher quality picture and sound than regular dvd. Your old tv won’t display high quality. You would need a newer tv that accepts hi-def.

Blue-ray and HD-DVD are the 2 competing ways of playing hi-def movies.

In all honesty, both look EXCELLENT. However, both blue-ray and hd-dvd players are still fairly expensive. Unless money isn’t an issue for you, you would do well to continue to use regular dvd’s and wait until one of the 2 competing methods wins.

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Joe, I must agree with you about Sony. I plan to boycott them vigorously. I wanted to buy a copy of “Stranger than Fiction”. I loved that film! However, the anti-piracy technology wouldn’t even allow our family to watch it on our perfectly adequate Toshiba DVD player. We had to watch it on our laptop, and then only after downloading special software we had never had to use before in order to watch DVDs on our laptop. No more Sony products for us!

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lol, I love reading all the misinformed posts in this thread. I especially got a kick out of the Toshiba blu-ray player. I’ll be sticking to up-converted DVDs for the next few years until the prices come down to DVD level (yeah I know I’ll be waiting a while for that to happen, not like they want to actually make these things cheaper than the current stuff).

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I am old enough to remember the VHS vs BETAMAX wars and it was about like this current blu-ray vs hd dvd war but not quite as VHS could hold more but Betamax was better quality and as it has already been said the porn industry ….. Adult films.. as they adopted the VHS format wholy and with VHS tapes being the backrooms of the video stores it pushed them to go all vhs to only have to get one type of shelf and cases

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I think thereis one brand of Blu-ray /hd-dvd player out there meaning it plays both but i am not sure

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i love harry potter he my friend i loe standerd dvd ad vcr all my family as staderd dvd and vcr stuff so hell with hd and blu ray were the old

keep harry alive he should be president

talk to you later harry potter

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what i willdo and what iam guess alot of people in my lvl of income ( ie from paycheck to paycheck) are going to do is wait to see which format wins out and the prices drop then buy that one as right now i am not buying either regulat dvd is good enough for me at this time, and even if i did have the money i would do the same as to avoid getting stuck with a player that i can’t get movies for, and i would not buy both if i had the money as eventually one would becomenothing more than an expensive paperweight! and thats what happened back inthe day with VHS and Betamax people with lower incomes waited to see which one was going to be the one to last as not to waste money p.s. sorry for all the posts i kept getting more thoughts lol

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THE DOOR IS OPEN?! Forgive me if I am behind, but I just went to JKR’s site about 10 minutes ago, and The Door was open. I checked Mugglenet and the Leaky Cauldron and I didn’t see any sites reporting it. When you open it, it comes up with an envelope with the Dark Mark on it. When clicked, you are shown a family tree of sorts, listing the characters and their children after the end of the series. Does everyone but me already know about this?!

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i luv harry potter and i cant belive its almost done

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Trey: Some people care about having as good a quality picture as possible. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean that it’s “showing off”, it enhances the experience. People said similar things about DVD compared to VHS, but I’m quite sure you wouldn’t want to go back to that either. It should also be noted that the HP films have some of the best high-def transfers around.

Alicia: HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are both high-def. Simply, both of them have a higher resolution (that is, more dots in a given area) than standard DVD. This means they have more detail and therefore sharpness, which is often very noticable in darker areas where a smudge of black turns into some real detail. It also means the colours are truer and more vibrant. If you have top-range audio equipment, you can also take advantage of better sound in the form of Dolby TrueHD and the like. It all comes down to the fact that there’s more space on these disks because they use a different (bluer) wavelength of laser.

To illustrate the potential of high definition, scientists have managed to produce a display with such high definition that people watching it got motion sickness; that is, it fooled their brains into thinking the image was real!

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I don’t want multiple HD format players so when the time comes for me to get a PS3 it’ll be my Blu-Ray player. But for now, since my TV is old, I just use basic DVD and hope that regular DVD still continues to be produced for awhile.

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Well the way I see it … some can afford to go over to Blue-Ray, others can’t. And IF WB is smart they supply both needs, or else would have to count a severe loss. However unless Blue-Ray can be played on the regular DVD player too as well as a compy things should be fine.

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@At Muddtalica: Thank You! I was unaware of that fact. I had been misinformed, then, about the 360. You know how rumors get around! We’re a PS3 family. LOL! *)

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Oh, and Muddtalica, I forgot that “Microsoft is behind all that”. I remember, now. You have to buy ADDITIONAL software, and it will do the HD-DVD and former games. Thanks again! *)

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I’m waiting til Blu-Ray machines come down in price before I buy all HP movies in that format (as a set of seven I expect).

What I’d like to know is whether the HD/Blu-Ray dvds have better extras on them. The regular dvd extras for OotP are ABSOLUTE rubbish! Such a disappointment compared to GOF extras. I’m wondering if they saved the best for the Blu-Ray, HD formats.

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“What I’d like to know is whether the HD/Blu-Ray dvds have better extras on them. The regular dvd extras for OotP are ABSOLUTE rubbish! Such a disappointment compared to GOF extras. I’m wondering if they saved the best for the Blu-Ray, HD formats.”

I asked the same question a few pages back and so far nor answer, i guess no one here has bought the dvd HD or Blu-ray….

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I’ve read each posting in this thread, and the question has not been directly asked or answered: what about compatability? Will a Toshiba HD play a standard dvd or a Blu-Ray? Will a Blu-Ray play a standard DVD or HD?

anne, MIia, we can only play what they put on the dvd, regardless of format ;-). But, let’s hope someday we’ll have “extended versions” to spend our money on?

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I have the Blu-Ray format of OotP. It has a feature called Focus Points: Featurettes and Production Diaries. It is approximately 1:03:00. It talks about how they built sets for the movie as well as the special effects. It also talks about things that go on while they were filming such as Rupert always having the giggles. You can read more about the hi-def versions at www.highdefdigest.com and just search for the movies. There are reviews for the high-def versions of each movie at this website.

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To budb. Seems like you still haven’t grasp the basic, hence you would ask such questions.

A “Toshiba HD player” CAN play standard DVD and HD-DVD disc, it CANNOT play a Blu-Ray disc.

A “Blu-Ray player” CAN play standard DVD and Blu-Ray disc, it CANNOT play a HD-DVD disc.

Both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are HD (Hi-Def) format.

For now, 5 out of 8 major Hollywood movie studios chose to side with Blu-Ray exclusive, including WB and New Line under it. What that means is, for example: in future Lord of the Rings trilogy will surely release a Hi-Def edition, which is what a lot of us have been waiting for, it WILL be on Blu-Ray only.

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And of course we all have endless amounts of “available money” !!!!!

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There was a post earlier about a dual HD/Blu-Ray player. LG makes it, but its about $800-$1000 right now. Hardly seems worth it. Personally, I think Sony is having a field day that somebody figured it out. They went to great lengths to keep companies from doing just that initially.

drools at the prospect of the blu-ray LOTR 8D~

coughs Sorry…

Anyway, I hope this does end soon. Personally, when seen side by side I think Blu-Ray has the better picture but thats just a personal opinion and its not really grounded in anything since they both have the same basic specs when it comes to picture quality. But HD doesn’t seem as confining (region codes and security issues and what not). You almost wish someone would step in and combine the two and then everyone would be happy but that isn’t going to happen and my guess is Blu-Ray will win out. It would be cool to see “Blu-HD” though ^_, then all this BS would be over.

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and apparently the comment boards don’t like my little symbols anymore…sorry!

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lol, thanks for confirming what i assumed. one reaches a stage in life where one doesnt bother to learn things that one doesnt need to know until its necessary. it will happen to you someday, trust me ;-)

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Trust me budb, I’ve passed that point. But when it comes to HD and what not, I need to know these stuffs because it’s relate to my profession (I’m working in the creative and production side of the film/TV industry, I need to keep up with least of the basic of movie/video format output). Plus I’ve done a bit of research as I’m planning to buy either a Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player for my father, who’s obsessed with this kind of quality, but just like most people here it’s better to wait now. Just a bit longer. This WB’s annoucement has been one crucial great step toward the decision of choosing Blu-Ray. The idea of LOTR in hi-def is sort of the ultimate deal breaker for me. (btw I think it’s 6 out of 8 major hollywood studio that has decided to go Blu-Ray exclusive right now).

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I bought my HD-DVD player because OotP was availabe in it and it was 200.00 cheaper than the blu-Ray. I figured the cheaper player would be the most popular. Color me stupid. :( Anyone want to buy a not very used HD-DVD player?

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chuckling as well, lol!

I was just at a professional conference, and spent time with friends and colleagues I hadn’t seen in years: we’ve decided that from now on we will greet each other with a secret handshake and the words, “So, how’s your prostate?”

But, you are right: Its a good bet that if 6/8 of the studios are going with Blu-Ray, and represent a similar percentage (75%) of dvd sales, then we should be thinking BluRay as well… thanks for the tip!

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Even though Warner Brothers is going to release the movies from now on solely in HD in the Blu-Ray format, this move isn’t going to persuade me to purchase a player. It should be to clear to everyone that once the bandwidth on our networks accomodates it, obtaining movies over the internet by download is going to become the norm. It’s already happened in music. It’s going to spread into movies and video games (it is already starting to, to be honest) within the next ten years.

I’ve always thought that these efforts to create a new player to play “physical media” were absurd in the face of the inevitable fact that set top boxes connected to the internet with TB’s of storage are going to become common sometime in the next decade. Netflix and LG are already developing their own player by which to stream movies from the popular rental site.

While this news is interesting, I’m afraid that Blu-Ray is going to die in the face of a mass consumer exodus toward movie downloads.

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There are new pics of Jessie!! Check her fansites!! ^

Amy S, I love your avatar!! ^ Where did you get it?? =)

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It’s important to bring out that with Warner Bros. announcing their Blu-ray exclusivity, this puts the proverbial nail in the coffin on HD-DVD. So if you’ve been “on the fence” trying to decide between HD-DVD or Blu-ray, then rest assured that Blu-ray has “won” the format war.

If you need proof, consider that Toshiba (the major backer of HD-DVD) and the HD-DVD Product Group have canceled their big HD-DVD press conferences and parties scheduled for this week’s Consumer Electronics Show. Also consider that during ALL of 2007, Blu-ray out-sold HD-DVD at LEAST 2:1, including during the Xmas season. This was part of the reason why Warner cites “consumer demand” as the reason for their decision. The future is Blu.

As someone who owns the first 5 Harry Potter films on Blu-ray, I can tell you that not only do they look worlds better than the standard DVD versions, but the high-quality audio is amazing. You really will be blown away! This is the way we were meant to watch HP.

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Also, in response to Cantado and anyone else who things we’ll be downloading our movies instead of buying a physical DVD anytime soon, please realize how flawed this reasoning is. You simply cannot compare downloading music with downloading movies. The average song takes 90 seconds to download. The average movie takes 5 HOURS, and that’s at STANDARD definition. A hi-def download of OotP would take roughly 3 DAYS over even the fastest average US internet connection, and that’s assuming you’re not downloading anything else.

Consider that people still buy CD’s, even though they can download the music. Why? For starters, QUALITY. The actual CD sounds better. Secondly, cost… it costs about as much to buy the physical disc as it does to download it. And let’s not forget DRM (Digital Rights Management), a copyright security that limits where you can use downloaded music. If you buy the CD and rip it yourself, you have no such restrictions.

All that aside, I think downloading movies will eventually become a reality, but we’ve got at LEAST a decade before it’s realistic. It is, for the foreseeable future, a logistical nightmare, and a technological impossibility.

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I’ve pretty much been with Blu-Ray from the start. As far as I’m concerned, even if HD-DVD were slightly better (which, it isn’t) I don’t really want to sound like I’m hocking a loogey every time I try to say the format name. Blu-Ray comes out a lot cleaner.

Ignoring that little, minor preference, Blu-Ray has more storage capacity, plain and simple. Some people on this comment board have made the comment that that doesn’t matter because Blu-Ray Video takes more space anyway – whilst this may be the case, consider that Blu-Ray discs are not used solely for Video and that data storage must be taken into consideration. With two quad-layer Blu-Ray discs I could back up all of my computer’s data with ease. And BR-RW would really be a miracle…

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Just my luck! We got an HD-DVD player for Christmas (and the OOTP HD-DVD), now we will have to invest in a blu-ray or that thousand (US) dollar LG machine that plays both…..

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I’m really surprised at all the misinformation that people have about the HD-DVD / Bluray issue. The decision by WB is not the best for consumers and once again Hollywood is trying to manipulate the public to do what they want in order for them to make more money. And whoever thinks that making a decision based on the name of the format or on capacity should really find out the REAL differences between the two formats before spouting out like an expert. The picture quality between the two is nil – and depending on the source you research you’ll find some that say HD-DVD is better, some that say Bluray is better. Fact of the matter is that it’s pretty much indiscernible. The sole technological advantage that the Bluray format has is capacity – and that’s it. It’s not much of an advantage but it does mean that you could fit more content on a single disk and offer more audio tracks, however anyone who thinks the studios are going to provide you with all that extra stuff without gouging you on price is crazy. The disadvantages to Bluray are many and worrisome in some ways. First and foremost there are no standards in Bluray players, so what’s under the hood of one can greatly vary. Doesn’t sound like a big deal at first, but the fact of the matter is that there are already players out there that cannot play the newest releases because the firmware on the player cannot handle the coding on the new disks. Expect more confusion as the format grows and they continue to make changes to it since they rushed it into production to compete with HD-DVD and have been trying to make changes to it. Also, since a network port isn’t a requirement as it is with HD-DVD, you cannot necessarily get a firmware upgrade at all. A major difference is in the types of bonus content you find on HD-DVD that you cannot get on Bluray due to the later’s lack of standards. Pop in GOF or OOTP in HD-DVD and you can be treated to picture in picture video commentaries, production facts and interviews while you’re watching the film – you can’t do that with Bluray. And since all HD-DVD players have internet functionality – a number of films have web based bonus features like the ability to download videos and customized menus right to the player. The Heroes TV series box set even featured a game where you connected to the internet when done and it told you what kind of hero you were. Again, you can’t do that with Bluray. With regards to the special features, any developer of HD video will tell you that developing for HD-DVD is easier due to the standards in place by the consortium that created the format. Bluray is cumbersome to develop for and why most people who own both usually side with the HD-DVD release when available simply because the entertainment experience is better. The most glaring difference is that my HD-DVD copy of OOTP will play in ANY DVD player since it is a combo disk, with the HD version on one side and DVD on the other. So if my son wants to watch the movie in another room or we want to take it on the road with us I don’t need to buy two versions of the same movie. Again, something that you can do with HD-DVD and not Bluray and one of the reasons why the studios want Bluray to win – because you might end up buying multiple copies so that you can get the same functionality already available on HD-DVD and they can make more money from you. The only other advantage Bluray has is title selection, based on studios being paid funds by both camps to side with them exclusively in order to force the other one out. Not long ago a company developed a way to produce both Bluray and HD-DVD formats on one disk which could have ended the battle and all consumers would have won out, but no one was interested in that since it would have meant coexistence. Oh, and the other reason why the studios don’t want HD-DVD to succeed is region coding. It no longer exists with HD-DVD so a disk will play anywhere in the world. I’ve ordered several movies from Amazon UK that are from studios that are exclusive to Bluray in the US and they all play fine – but the studios don’t like that so they don’t want HD-DVD to succeed. So while some people will be ecstatic that Bluray seems to be winning the battle (and it’s not over no matter what some people would like to spout), if Bluray does knock out HD-DVD it will be a loss for consumers and the better format will have lost out.

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^wow…thanks for explaining that so well

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PigmyPuffPie, the XBOX 360 does not play Blu Ray. Out of the box it only plays regular DVDs. However, Microsoft does have a HD-DVD add on that will play HD-DVDs. Note: Not Blu-Rays. Now everyone keeps noting how the PS3 has helped BluRay alot. This is true. Now if Microsoft had been smart enough to have the HD-DVD player built in in the first place instead of this “add-on” drive then the war would be even more neck and neck. Although, there are rumors that Microsoft will release yet another version of the XBOX 360 with the HDDVD drive built-in. We shall see. I have both blu-ray and hd-dvd each via a gaming system (ie XBOX 360 and PS3). Honestly, as much as both parties would like to say that their brand of HD movie is better, they are the same picture quality. I personally prefer HD-DVD, mostly because they seem to offer more extras in addition to the main movie. But that’s just me.

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In response to Martin, downloading movies, TV shows, etc. are coming a lot sooner than a decade. Streaming content in HD is already here and downloading isn’t far behind. Just take a look at what you can get right now. On ABC.com, you can stream full episodes in HD and watch it in real time without worrying about stopping for buffering. Xbox Live just announced today HD downloads from ABC, Disney and MGM. In the next couple years, downloaded HD content is only going to grow. Right now HD-DVD and Blu-Ray combine for something around 2-3% of the total worldwide market share of home movies. It is just as feasible for downloaded HD content to become as popular as any of these HD formats. Not saying it will or won’t happen, but the technology is already here and only getting better every day.

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It’s starting to look like the end for HD-DVD, which is a shame. They are still backed by Dreamworks, Paramount and Universal, but the loss of Warner Brothers is a blow. As regard to picture quality the two formats are the same, both run in 1080p (that is 1080 lines of vertical resolution) compared to 480p on standard DVD. My preference was that HD-DVD would win, as there is no region coding on the disks, so as UK resident I could buy disks from the States before they came out in the UK without a chipped player. Unfortunately this put some Studios off. That, and being offered money by Sony. Regarding capacity, both formats will increase in size. They have come up with a tripple layered disk on HD-DVD, while Blue Ray could in theory have many times the Capacity. Blue Ray disks have a very thin protective layer, so more layers of Data is available. As a result any minor surface scratches render the disk useless, that is why the disk is resistant to scratches, but if you should manage to scratch it, it’s only use then is as a drinks coaster. Blue Ray disks, as a result of this coating, are more expensive to produce. I own the HD-DVD add on my 360, and am now considering buying a PS3 as a Blue Ray Player, even if there are no games for it. I’m starting to feel their is little point buying new movies on standard DVD. DVD will be around for a few years to come yet, as their is no point in buying TV series as such on a HD format unless they were recorded in HD. As reguarding HP, I was going to wait until the Deathly Hallows was out on a HD format and buying them as a box set.

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Wow, quite a few misconceptions going ‘round. The bottom line is that Blu-Ray can hold a lot more information, many studios have confessed that they had to leave off extra features and lossless audio because of HD-DVD’s size restriction.

Several HD-DVD titles are released in 1080i, not the full HD spec of 1080p due to that same restriction.

In my opinion, the HD-DVD spec is the inferior one. YES, they’re players are nice, but let’s face it hardware can change. Many Blu-Ray players DO come w/ an ethernet jack. Blu-Ray java and PIP DOES exist. Players and hardware can change (and will) yet software specs CAN’T change w/ o rendering hardware useless (and, no a firmware upgrade doesn’t always solve those problems)

Why side with an already out of date spec?

And Apple is set to announce they will start including Blu-Ray players with their new computers. And, as we’ve seen over the years, Apple is a trendsetter. So goes Apple, so goes the world.

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I’d like to see exactly which movies have more special features on their Bluray release that they don’t have on HD-DVD – I don’t think you really have any there. But should you look at it the other way around, you only have to look as far as the HD-DVD and Bluray releases of GOF and OOTP to see that Bluray owners are the ones missing features.

Because the ethernet and java versions change and are not mandated by Sony, consumers are being duped. Please name on Bluray release that offers web enabled content. There aren’t any. Same with PIP since many of the players that people have bought cannot play the disks and cannot be upgraded due to the inferior lack of standards that Sony propagated by rushing the format to the marketplace without doing their homework. In the end they are going to have po’d consumers who will not be able to play the movies they buy, and have to buy a new player to watch the latest films. Oh, and they’ll be forced to buy a dvd version if they want to watch it anywhere else. As manufacturers continue to try to get the price point of Bluray players competitive with HD-DVD players they will strip out the very options which will give the players the ability to be upgraded to meet the changing “standards” that Sony is trying to change to make the format do some of the things that any HD-DVD player can do right out of the box.

In terms of capacity the mulltlayered discs that both formats offer more than meet the needs of all the studios – and that will only increase over time as the layering technology increases. Unless we’re talking TV box sets and the ability to put more episodes on fewer disks we’re not going to see content that exceeds the capacity for either format to store.

Let’s look at the BBC “Planet Earth” series as an example. It comes in both formats and is one of the most stunning series to ever be filmed, yet even with all the “increased capacity” both sets take 4 disks to fill with no differences in features.

Capacity does come into play on OOTP – the Bluray version has both German and Italian audio tracks that the HD-DVD version does not. But to be honest, I’ll gladly sacrifice those audio options to get all the content and features that the HD-DVD version offer that Bluray can’t.

As far as Apple goes – if 3% of the world’s computer population dictates how the world spins we are indeed in the decline of western civilization! I have no problems with the equipment, but I hardly see them as the saintly trendsetters that some do.

The facts are that both formats have a lot to offer the consumer, but fail to work together for the betterment for all. Rather they’d rather wave cash to studios to get them to side with them like two kids on a playground picking sides to win a fight. Sadly, had Sony stayed with the rest of the consortium that developed DVD we would all be better off. But in their rush to have more fingers in the pie than anyone else we have a format war in which no one can win.

And their lack of a sound development process will lead to issues as they try to make their format do things that it currently cannot, to the point of leaving the consumer in the dark and many holding onto equipment that is obsolete the moment it’s purchased.

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Again, you’re citing hardware features – not software features. You’re citing features that are hardware dependent not software dependent.

You hardly see Apple as a trendsetter?

Apple was the first computer to get rid of the floppy drive – how many PCs followed suit?

Apple was the first to switch to USB and Firewire ports and the first to use USB standard keyboards, mice, and printers – good look finding a computer with a serial port these days.

Apple was the first to ship w/ built in wi-fi AND bluetooth.

You can’t argue that every other computer retailer followed suit w/ the trends that Apple set.

You honestly don’t see capacity being an issue w/ new layering techniques? Have you ever seen a triple layered DVD. No, it doesn’t exist. Capacity will be an issue when the next resolution hits. Sure 1080p is the top now, but they are already in the works for the next 2 steps beyond that.

As for the war between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray: a Harry Potter fansite is probably not the best place to discuss the pros and cons of each format as their are many, many other better suited forums to do so (AVS being one of the more popular). I doubt anyone here wishes to delve into technical specifications, adoption/attachment rates, etc.

After all, this is a place to discuss Harry Potter fandom, not the passions or whims of High-Def Early Adoption fanatics.

And believe me, I include myself in that.

So, to get it back around to topic, it does stink that those who do have HP on HD-DVD will not get (at least as it stands right now) get 6 and 7 on HD-DVD.

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I love my HD DVD player…HD DVDs are less expensive to make, and Blu-Ray discs are made using an old outdated technology that no-one uses anymore. Most people who are technophiles own both a Blu-Ray player and a HD DVD player. Eventually when Blu-Ray comes down under $200 I will get one for the living room & move the HD player to the bedroom. Until then I will stick with my HD DVDs – the player cost under $200 on-line and the movies are crisp and clear and not much different from Blu-Ray. One thing I like about the HD players are that you can hook them up to the Internet & access additional features on-line. I, for one, will not be re-buying the Harry Potter movies that I purchased in the HD format.

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I went into specifics because people asked for clarification – making it part of the discussion. People need to see the facts about these formats to make and educated decision rather than listen to Hollywood studios who are trying to force them one way, the retailers who do the same, or people on message boards who tell them what to think. I am hardly an expert, but I did take the time to research both of them to find out some real information and not the spin. It becomes a point of discussion on a Harry Potter fansite when people who aren’t technophiles have questions about this format issue and want to know more – especially when the discussion is stimulated by an announcement that affects future Harry Potter films.

And both hardware and software features are an issue here. You can’t get some of the features due to lack of standardization on hardware specs, and you can get some of the features because the software for Bluray is so far behind what’s out there for HD-DVD. So without making some hardware standards the door is open to make lackluster equipment that will be obsolete in a year.

This isn’t the place to argue Apple, either – but there you go. But I’ll tell as someone from the computer industry that companies didn’t get rid of floppies because of Apple, the needs of consumers did that when it became apparent that the format would not be able to handle the increased file sizes of the things people were trying to save. And USB became a solution for that issue as well as the increase in file sizes being sent to printers – let alone for Windows to detect the hardware. Apple, as a smaller company, was able to make that change faster but, again, we stray off the beaten path.

In the end, you are correct in that it stinks for people to have invested in something and have the studios take sides when it clearly didn’t have to be this way. So WB will be losing my business in High Definition sales, and probably my DVD purchases as well since I’ll end up pursuing digital downloads of HD content instead and saving money in the process.

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For those who want more info about this whole thing, this article is very interesting.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080108/ap_on_hi_te/gadget_show_blu_ray_triumph_6

Some highlights

“The shift in the format struggle isn’t a reason to run out and buy Blu-ray players, however: today’s players can’t take advantage of the features planned for future Blu-ray discs.”

Again, a lack of standards are going to leave early adopters in the dust if they didn’t get a player that might be able to be updated – and if it’s something that keys on hardware, well you’re out of luck.

“In November, Panasonic launched the first player to include picture-in-picture capability, which allows viewers to watch the director or actor providing commentary in a small window while the movie plays full-screen. Sony’s PlayStation 3 game console — which can play Blu-ray discs — gained the same capability in December via a software update.

HD DVD players have had most of these capabilities. Starting with the first ones sold, in 2006, Toshiba’s players have had picture-in-picture capabilities and have been able to connect to the Internet to download trailers. The HD DVD of “Evan Almighty” even allows the viewer to go to an online store to buy merchandise related to the movie.

Kevin Tsujihara, president of Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Group, acknowledged in an interview that the HD DVD format had some advantages.

“The interactivity is more advanced on the HD DVD side, but I’m confident that we’re going to get there” with Blu-ray, he said.

HD DVD discs were also cheaper to produce, being more similar to traditional DVDs than Blu-ray discs.

“There were cost advantages on the HD DVD side,” Tsujihara said.

Again – they aren’t there and maybe they’ll catch up to what HD DVD has been offering from the get go – and it’s more expensive – and the consumer can get combo disks….......

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For anyone who thinks downloading movies is the ONLY future for us, think again.

Its perfect for rental but useless for permanently keeping the video.

Just look at the currently systems like Xbox Live. You can only RENT a movie and buy a TV series. Each title is also only available for download for a limited period. So if you rent a film today it might not be available tomorrow. Likewise if you BUY a TV programme today but run out of disk space so have to download it (remember, most of these services do NOT allow you to backup your videos) again later, it might not be available.

I have already experienced content I previously downloaded off Xbox Live, that I since had to delete to free some space, no longer being available to download when I upgraded the hard drive so had enough space for it again.

Download services will likely ALWAYS be like this. It simply costs too much money to keep ALL movies available for download at ANY time. Also, with a DVD you can rip it and transfer it to your cell phone, PSP, iPod etc. Even better, you can TAKE the DVD and play it on a portable player. Even with mobile Internet technologies the bandwidth is far too limited and will remain limited (radio frequencies don’t grow on trees you know, the faster connections get the less people can actually use them simutaniously) so a movie you can download onto the PC you cannot necessarily play on your iPod, portable players, etc. Whilever you have a physical disk you CAN do that.

So do not be too quick to dismiss actual physical disks or at least memory chips. I know when I have paid money for something I would rather have it etched/pressed into a physical item that cannot easily be lost due to a computer crash or the publisher deciding I should go out and buy it again. Even with the seeming death of HD-DVD I know I will be able to play my HD-DVDs for years to come even if they stop making HD-DVD players. They will still be available and nobody can disable my ability to play them short of pulling the disk from my cold dead hands. With downloadable movies however, that is not the case.

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Agreed Alex, great post.

A lot people are jumping on the Download movie and TV show bandwagon, but you’re absolutely right.

Although at CES this year (which is currently happening), a lot of these type of boxes came out that allow for some kind of streaming in one format or another.

Funny, Apple came out with a box in 2006 that did exactly that, but, no, people don’t copy Apple. Riiiiiight.

But, you’re right, Alex. Hard drives get full, TiVo is nice, but again not practical for any long-term storage. And yes, just because downloaded music is pretty much a standard, movies won’t necessarily follow suit. Now that HD is a reality, you need an HD TV Monitor, good speakers, etc. to take full advantage of it.

You’re not going to get that experience when you download to your computer – unless you can get it on your TV (using your XBox 360 or PS3 or some other box) and as you said you’re limited by HD space.

The best news I heard that came our of CES in regards to this was that Microsoft had signed a deal w/ ABC and Disney to offer HD shows via XBox Live Marketplace. That means I can get true HD content on my HD television. Cool, but again, at some point my hard drive is going to get full – but at least it’s a nice feature. I would rather buy an episode of Lost that I miss and watch it in HD on my television than fool w/ my crappy VCR (sorry, no Tivo.)

But, if I like the entire season of Lost I would much rather have it in a physical format than clogging up my 360.

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