“Deathly Hallows” Director Update: Heyman says Del Toro Not Really in the Running

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Jan 28, 2008

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There is news today regarding a possible director for the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows film. As we have been reporting, director Guillermo Del Toro has repeatedly expressed an interest in directing the final Harry Potter film, however today Potter producer David Heyman says this will not be the case. Empire magazine reports that they recently spoke with Mr. Heyman who “that Del Toro was sadly not really in the running because “he’s rather busy.” The Hollywood Reporter has an article today stating that Mr. Del Toro is in talks to helm the widely anticipated The Hobbit films (with Peter Jackson producing), and this would not permit enough time for Guillermo Del Toro to take on the Harry Potter film as well. As announced previously, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is due in movie theaters sometime in 2010.

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171 Responses to “Deathly Hallows” Director Update: Heyman says Del Toro Not Really in the Running

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Thank god! He’s an amazing director, but not for HP! I want DY!

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One speculative director down, a zillion more to go . . .

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A pity, I’d say…he’d have been amazing.

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That’s a shame, he would’ve been absolutely perfect for the last HP, it’s his kind of story. :(

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I’m really curious, and ir’s very unrelated, but how do you get a picture appear when you post comments?

I loved reading The Hobbit! Can’t wait for the film.

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That’s really a shame for the HP series, but good for The Hobbit, I suppose, if Peter Jackson won’t do it.

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I was hoping they’d get some no-name for the Hobbit, as Peter’s going to be in charge most of the time anyway. ;) Ah well, he’s a good guy and I’ll be happy with him in either film.

Now really, I’d be happy enough with Yates again, or Alfonso back. :)

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Eeeeeehhhh?

Aw well.

Can we have Alfonso back then? Pretty please with cherries on top? g

I loved his style in PoA. He has such a right feel for the universe. you can tell that I luffed him lots. __

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What a shame. The only director besides Yates that I saw fit for the film was Guillermo….o wells. I hope David still has one more in him. I’d hate to have Alfonso come in and put in his little touches rather than give the whole story.

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Argh yeah, I’m sorry I know there are a lot of Alfonso fans, and I love him as a director but I just didn’t find him right for HP, Columbus was great, and I love Yates just as much/or more.

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My vote goes to David Yates!

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I find this unfortunate. I would have been so very interested in what Guillermo would have done.

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Thank goodness he isn’t going anywhere near DH. Bad luck to the Hobbit.

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It’s a shame, as he’s a phenomenal director. But now, it has to be Yates or Cuaron. They’re the only directors who really seemed to understand what HP is all about, and who captured the tone and spirit of the books, so they deserve to be

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Thank goodness! Now just assure me it won’t be Cuaron, and I’m happy.

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the hobbit though, that works for me. a pans-like hobbit would be…interesting to say the least.

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Bummer. He is an amazing director. He might have made it a bit too dark, though you can’t deny Pan’s Labyrinth was amazingly done. I might actually go see the Hobbit if he’s directing.

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Pretty relieved—I enjoy his movies, but this one would’ve been more a Guillermo movie than a HP movie. His films have too strong an aftertaste for me. Hopefully we’ll get Cuaron, Yates, or a nice surprise!

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Well, i hope Steven Spielberg isn’t in the running! I want Yates to come back, again!

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I don’t like Yates. The movie was too dark and he doesn’t know how to bring out the best acting ability of the characters. The was Newell ( in terms of acting).

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My vote goes to Cauron, the third movie was the best. Yates is not that bad, but i liked the tone of caurons

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I want ALFONSO CUARON!!!!......I see that many of you wants him too…..come on….ofcourse we love OOTP the best so far but that’s because story is getting better each book(and film)....but when you think about it…..Alfonso did the best job so far…it’s really HP story….so I want him for DH!!!!!!

Who’s with me???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thanks goodness del Toro is out of the running. I hope Curaron is out, too. He added too many non-essential personal touches to the story. DH is such an important story to tell. Let’s have someone who really understands the series – Chris Columbus, David Yates, or even someone new but totally into J.K.’s stories.

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I know that movie grosses are not important to a true Potter fan but they are important to movie studios. According to Box Office Mojo, POA made the least money. That says to me that the Potter fans in general did NOT like Curaron’s take on the story. I know that his version is my least favorite of all the movies. (and, yes, we see all the movies at least twice in the theatre, own all the books and all the books on CD. We are FAN atic about Harry!).

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Yes that is a shame, but my vote goes with Yates as well, I really like what he did with OOTP and it sounds exciting what he is doing with HBP. After that I would want Alfonso way before Newell, just because he didnt put much of Snape in his film – for Gods sake he is one of the most important characters and we hear him talk like once, I may be biased as well GOF is my least favorite book. The movies however keep getting better with every installment- so they better go out with a bang!

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I can’t believe people are saying that Cauron or Yates are too dark. Sometimes I wonder if people are reading the same series I am. The last book is about war, murder and potentional genocide right?

Guys, the books are dark, especially Deathly Hallows. We need an edgy director for the last film, or it’s just going to fall flat. I’d love to have Cauron back, especially if they decide to make it in two parts, that way we won’t have to worry about multiple storylines being cut from the film (which I think is the No.1 reason why people disliked Cauron).

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Personnaly, I really disliked POA and I would like to see Chris Columbus back if he’s a possibility.

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Libraryfairy, I couldn’t disagree with you more. I love PoA, and I think most fanatical HP fans are split between whether they like Cauron’s style or not. The fact is, if Cauron had not made the changes he did (make it edgier, darker) the 4th and 5th films would have suffered huge losses. Newell himself said he wanted to keep the same style as Cauron. I think that is why the 4th film did so well: Cauron helped the series move away from it’s kiddie roots, which helped a brand new, older audience fill comfortable about seeing the 4th film.

Regardless of whether or not you like Cauron, you cannot deny that his style had a HUGE impact on the franchise.

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huge sigh of relief

I’m sorry for those who wanted Del Toro, but I personally can’t feel anything but happiness to know that he won’t be directing DH. Anyone who has expressed admiration for the way Cuaron handled PoA is someone I don’t want anywhere near the HP movies. No, no, no, no, NO!

I’m all about David Yates coming back. After watching OotP, I could have snogged that man senseless, out of pure gratitude. He “gets it” in a way that none of the other directors seem to have done. And I must disagree with Steven when he says that Yates didn’t bring out the best in the actors; on the contrary, I thought Dan, Rupert, Matt Lewis, Bonnie Wright, Devon Murray, and most of the rest were far better than they’d been in any of the previous films; even Emma was bearable this time around, as Yates managed to rein in her overacting.

waves ‘David Yates Is Da Bomb’ banner

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oh bother, i thought he’d have been topping.

but ooh, the hobbit? that’s interesting, and in fact quite awesome, given the lack of jackson…

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Hmm, I was gonna say I was pleased that he wasn’t going to direct HP7… until I read he was in talks to do the Hobbit. I would much rather HP7 got messed up than the Hobbit – nobody should direct that except the genius Peter Jackson. I think I’d like Yates to do HP7. He did a good job with 5.

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We want Alfonso!!!! I absolutely loved what he did with POA; that was the break-through film of the series, and it really set the tone for the rest of the films. I loved OOTP too, and would not mind having David Yates back, but if Guillermo del Toro can’t do it (which would be sad), then I want Alfonso back, ESPECIALLY IF DEATHLY HALLOWS WILL BE TWO FILMS (which I hope it will)! :)

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That’s really a shame :( With the right script he would have been absolutely phenomenal with the last installment-it really seems to fit his style well. I really hope Cuaron doesn’t come back. I think he’s a good director, but he just doesn’t fit right with the series. sigh Oh well…like somebody else said, hopefully Yates has steam left for DH. I thought he did a brilliant job with OotP, and I can’t wait for HBP.

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Not sure why I have a strike through one of my sentences in the above comment. Just FYI, it shouldn’t actually be there.

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What a shame, I would have loved Del Toro :(( Well I’m now hoping for Cuaron crosses fingers

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Mollywobble, I couldn’t agree with you more, you’re absolutely right.

But Steven, HAHAHAAHA, Newell the best in bringing out acting abilities? Are you kidding? Harry felt flat compared with ‘azkaban’, Ron was whiney all the way and let’s not start about what he did with Dumbledore. And don’t blame Micheal Gambon for that, because he just did what Newell asked him to do. The only good thing was Hermione’s crying scene. I really liked that. But then again, Newell does know his romantic comedies.

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I just hope they don’t pick spielberg. He’s just too American and too much hollywood. No offence for all the Americans posting here, but Harry Potter is Brittish, and I think you should feel that in the movies. And let’s be honoust, his ideas for the first Potterflick were awfull. Is it true that he wanted it to be a cartoon, with harry voiced by Halley Joel Osmond. aaaaarrgh!!

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want Alfonso!!!! [/i]

Er, not all of us. PoA [i]looked[/i] great… it had lots of wonderful visual touches, and I loved that little glimpse of the wizard in the Leaky Cauldron who was reading a copy of Hawking’s [i]A Brief History of Time[/i]. But emotionally, the movie fell very flat. The relationships weren’t developed well at all. Even the trio’s friendship, which should be the backbone of the films, often felt forced and insincere. This was a real shame, since the power and impact of PoA, more than any of the other books, depended mostly on the relationships between the different characters. And in this way, Cuaron really blew it.

So, since I know that Del Toro’s style is similar to Cuaron’s, put me down as someone who is glad he won’t be directing. DH, much like PoA, is highly emotional. We need a director who understands that, and will do justice to it, rather than one who is more concerned with what he can do visually.

None of this is meant as a slur on either Del Toro or Cuaron, who I’m sure are talented and creative directors. I just don’t think they’re at all right for the Harry Potter films.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed for David Yates, and if not him, then Mike Newell.

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Ah, poop. I completely botched the tags. Sorry. Everytime you see “[i]” in my above post, I was trying to put the word(s) in italics. ::headdesk::

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aw man, the movies are great with him i charge, except he didnt put all the events that were in the books in the movies. i wonder how “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” and “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” will turn out. o and for those who haven’t read the last book, it’s freakin awsome.

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I’d definitely be up for Yates coming back, or Cuaron. I absolutely loathed GOF, and felt that Newell fundamentally misunderstood the characters, their motivations, what was actually important in the story (hint: that d*&% dragon scene that went on and on and on and on…). I particularly cannot forgive him for the decisions he made re: Dumbledore (although when considering Dumbledore in isolation, I think the only director/actor team who “got” him was Columbus/Harris – I’m reserving judgement on Yates/Gambon until I see HBP).

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Please not Newell, I want David Yates back so bad, I think he is doing the best job, I agree with whoever said stop blaming Gambon for that terrrible incident in the corridors below where he bombarded harry- he was doing what the director told him to, besides I think he is doing good as Dumbledore- it is hard to replace someone once a standard has already been set.

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while, i do agree that the first 2 films were geared to a younger audience, however, so were the books. poa (my favorite book btw) starts the journey into darker territory, so it is natural that the poa movie would be darker and edgier. cuaron, or kloves (not sure how much input he had)imo, really butchered poa, i mean, come on, what was the point of the talking shrinking heads, a hairless werewolf, “he was their friend” , etc? art for sake of art? a little pretentious for my taste, being the simple person i am.

don’t get me wrong, i thought columbus’ versions were unispired and awfully kiddified even though they followed the book more closely. all in all i think all the movies are sub-par compared to what they could have been. again, just my opinion.

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Mags, you make a good point about the emotional relationships in PoA. But I think some of that has to do with how young Dan, Emma, and Rupert were at the time. I think Yates did a good job with the actors this time around, so I am expecting a lot from HBP, especially from Emma. I would have no problem if Yates was brought back for DH, but if he was burnt out or WB wanted someone else, I would like to have Cauron, simply because I know he isn’t going to chicken out during some of the graphic moments in the book.

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That would be amazing if Cuaron did DH and Del Toro did The Hobbit…

The two are super close friends doing the two biggest films on 2010… talk about a rivalry!!

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I’m kind of glad. I know he’s an amazing director, but I wouldn’t want to see him do Harry Potter stuff. I really hope Yates comes back for Deathly Hallows, though – I thought he did an incredible job with movie five. He really captured the darkness of the book and the new maturity of the actors. I’m glad with OotP they didn’t just ignore the fact that Dan, Rupert and Emma have progressed so much and just give silly little lines for comedy… It was way more intense than that. So, yeah, I hope Yates comes back :)

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

There goes the last shred of hope that I had for the HP movies :[

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I said earlier that I don’t want Cuaron or del Toro, but Yates would be just fine with me. I thought he created a very intense, emotional film, though it was frustrating how abbreviated the ending was with the Harry/Dumbledore convo. However, I don’t think anyone besides Columbus is going to put in every scene I deem important, and there’s no indication at all of him coming back. I think the main problem some people had with the first two movies was the age of the kids. The boys’ voices hadn’t changed yet, Hermione wasn’t wearing the tight sweaters and sleek hair (an unfortunate change if you ask me)...they just weren’t teenagers yet. So, people feel like it’s for kids. But to me, it was just like the book, which is just as it should be. And I thought the visuals were quite nice as well! I LOVED the season-changing scene in Sorcerer’s Stone when Harry releases Hedwig—gorgeous! Ah well, different things appeal to different people, which is also as it should be. Seems like Yates has been the biggest hit so far, from what I can tell from these posts, and I bet he’ll have a hard time turning down DH.

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Lots of love for David Yates in this thread, but I have a hard time climbing on that wagon. While I liked OotP quite a bit, most of what I didn’t like were matters of direction. OotP views, much of the time, like some sort of sports highlight reel. It’s choppy and if I hadn’t known beforehand it was made by a “TV guy,” I’d have been able to tell anyway.

That said, I still expect HBP to be good! I think Yates is a quick study and is learning all the time what it takes to make a brilliant feature film. He “gets” the series as well or better than any of the other directors. He’s willing to listen to knowledgeable cast and crew members about canon (his almost awestruck comments about Evanna Lynch were priceless!). He’s the most likely director to rein in Kloves’ gawd-awful “Super Hermione” tendencies.

My pick for DH has always been M. Night Shyamalan…but let’s face it, that’s a bit off the wall!

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Personally, I don’t think Chamber of Secrets was a book directed towards smaller kids. The biggest difference between CoS and PoA, is that Jo’s abilities as an author improved drastically. We forget that she was a new writer during the beginning of the series, and she needed to find her voice in the process.

But I agree, “He was their friend” was pretty hilarious, and I bet Dan Radcliffe feels the same.

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I love Del Toro and his movies but for some reason I don’t think he would be the best choice. I like his visual style and the fact that he sees the Dickensian qualities of the HP books, but he will always be the guy who turned down directing Lion the witch hand the Wardrobe because he didn’t like it that he Lion came back to life at the end…? so for that reason I don’t think he would represent the climax of Hallows accurately

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okay pleaseee no more David Yates. hes already doing two. how about Alfanso? PoA was perfectionnn!

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Please Yates!!!!

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Oh boo! Well at least we know the Hobbit will be good. :(

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Cuaron all the way! Seriously, I rewatched PoA a couple of days ago and it’s definitely the best movie, the tone is so damn right. All the whiners about ‘super Hermione’ just need to chill out. If you want a lot of action and more romance (and, of course, Voldemort) then GoF is probably more for you, and yeah it’s a great fun movie but PoA is much more HP IMO.

I rank Ootp below GoF and PoA (the movies, that is). It was WAY too rushed. So much so that it didn’t have enough impact, especially the end scenes, Sirius’s death, Dumbledore’s office should have been so much better. Even Harry/Cho was poorly handled (they all hate her for being the snitch, even though she had the truth Veritaserumed out of her!). Voldemort wasn’t in it for long enough. Snape’s memory should have been in full.

Whatever, Cuaron’s style is how I want HP to be.

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BOO!

GDT would have been brilliant. I think he is one of the few people that could do justice to the darkness and the beauty of the story.

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I dont know why so many people love Cauron. Although I do love the direction he took the series in, he is also the director who left out the MOST from the book. While I’m first to say that the movies should be taken as a seperate entity from the books, I think Movie 7 needs to stay closer then Cauron is cabable staying (and remember, he’s also the one who said that these movies can be done in under 2.5 hours).

To Redbeard – I dont know how you can say that Harry fell flat in GOF as compaired to POA. Dan was terrible in POA. Just look at the scene after he learns of the betrayal of his parents (“He was there friend!” [I’m LOLing that everyone seems to be picking on this line]). His whole panting-through-his-teeth to show anger and grief. Bad. Newell did a great job with Dan, especially noticable in the scene when he comes back from the graveyard.

That being said, Yates took all of them even further with OOTP, especially Dan and Rupert. Rupert actually got to do some acting, as opposed to just making faces and being the goofball. He got to play the Stand-Up guy that the character deserves to be, and he got a few great lines/scenes as well (instead of just giving them all to Hermione). I vote for Yates to finish out the series, if he’s up to it. I’d also probably be ok with Colombus (I cant believe I said that), ‘cause he will be apt to stay closer to the book, and he’s obviously not afraid to make a long movie (it just all depends on if he can go dark enough).

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As other posters have mentioned, if you like what Newell and Yates have done, you like Cuaron’s work. He forced the series to grow up. I personally think the emotional touches of that film (Harry and Lupin, Harry and Sirius) are the warmest in the series to date. The fans who don’t like the movie are, for the most part, frustrated because of the storylines that were cut from the book. While I missed those plot elements as well (almost as much as I missed Richard Harris as Dumbledore), you have to remember you’re adapting a book into a movie. Cuaron is the only director who got that—and actually made a coherent movie with no loose ends from the book. That’s why Rowling loved his movie so much. And the feel of 4 & 5 are almost entirely the result of his work. So, I personally pray that he gets the gig to finish out the series in style.

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Oh shut up, Amy S. If you don’t like it, don’t see the movies. I can’t even read comments anymore because everyone always complains! Boohoo your director didn’t get chosen, that sucks. If you could just stop whinning like little children and just not see the movies that would be great for the rest of us who like optimism. So.. there you have it. Hate me, bash me, I said my part. Goodbye.

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Oh please…. not Columbus again! I personally did not like him do CoS at all, but both Cuaron and Yates did their jobs quite well. Maybe it would be good to stick with Yates. But no not Spielberg, I bet he would mess it all up and let it turn out to cheezy… As to Newell, I would not want him back either. I my own humble opion her quite messed up GoF, it was too slapsticky in parts. I prefer the darker input of Cuaron and Yates. The story isnt funny after all, but neither cheesy, so the director would have to be able to hit the fine line of what works and what does not, plus her (or she!) would really have to know the books 1 through 7, and so why bring in a new face? Please Cuaron, if you aks me…

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Beth; I really agree with what you say about Dan’s improvement at emotion between POA and GOF. It was very noticeable in the two scenes you are quoting. I was very impressed with the GOF graveyard scene and aftermath.

I would disagree with you saying Dan was crap in POA though. I really liked Dan in that film, other than that infamous line (and there was NO NEED for Kloves to even write that stupid line, since it wasn’t in the book!!!!). POA was the first film I started to prefer Dan out of the Trio.

POA is my favourite film from my least favourite book. I find the book really drags now. OotP is my second favourite from my favourite book (pre DH that is). So I would be happy with Cuaron or Yates.

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I really hope Steven Speilberg doesnt do it. I just dont think its right for him, i mean he’s amazing, but I just don’t think it would be right. As long as the end result of DH is aamazing (and comes out in two parts with all the details) I’ll be ok, no matter who the director is.

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It’s great that he is doing The Hobbit, I think he will live up to Peter Jackson. But Harry Potter NEEDS a NEW DIRECTOR really bad, the previous movies were so pedestrian, the 3rd one was good, and none were what I’d call terrible. But book adaptations shouldn’t just be an adaptation, they should tell the story in another way that goes well on film, what’s the point of doing exactly like the books if the books are simply on the bookshelf? For directing the ONLY one I’d bring back is Alfonso, I don’t see why everyone liked Yates that much, I mean I’m glad he lived up to his promise of “darker” (unlike stupid Spider-man 3) but besides that I don’t see what was so great about it, I mean they made so many changes without really having a reason for them besides maybe time, but that was in very few cases. The books are far more brilliant than most of the silly fans know, and a good director who not only knows what he’s doing, has a good understanding of poetry, art, literature (Dickens especially as HP and it share similarities), film, and most of all a vision, creative ability. I don’t think Terry Gilliam should do the 7th one, but he definately should have done the first 2, although stupid Hollywood had to make sure of that one. Well, atleast it won’t be as bad as The Golden Compass.

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PEOPLE LET’S CALM DOWN. BESIDES…IT’S NOT ON US TO CHOOSE DIRECTOR BUT-ok. we have the most votes on: 1.Yates-he’s wonderful dire ctor-but he did few mistakes-inocent Cho(hell not!)-and were are Harry’s best friends?...they had really small parts-and few others mistakes

2.Cuaron-he’s also brilliant and also had few mistakes(but why are you all whining about “he was their friend!”-I liked that part a lot)

WHO EVER WILL BE DIRECTOR FOR DH-IT’S GOONA BE A GREAT FILM-BECAUSE WE HAVE PRODUCER DAVID HEYMAN, STEVE KLOVES,FANTASTIC ACTORS AND WOMAN WHO WROTE IT ALL-BIG J.K.ROWLING

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I am far from a film expert but truth be told, I don’t think much could be gained by introducing a new director at the very end of the series. It is already so choppy from using different directors. Personally PoA and OotP were my favorites, although I do think 5 cut out more than 3 did (yes I know, no marauders in 3 but that could be rectified if done properly; ok and again yes they should have cut the “he was their friend” tantrum for a simple “I know how to work the map Harry because I helped write it, along with Sirius, Wormtail and your Dad” where appropriate-done and done!)

So my vote is to either keep Yates or bring back Cuaron :)

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And thank you to Matea you read my mind, let’s keep the peace people and respect everyone’s opinions even if we don’t agree :)

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this sucks. del Toro was my next pick if none of the previous directors weren’t going to do it. I’m not too excited to hear that Peter Jackson isn’t going to direct the Hobbit though. that kinda sucks. But since we know del Toro isn’t going to direct DH then hopefully Alfonso Cuaron will, if not Cuaron then hopefully Yates, if not Yates then hopefully Columbus, if not any of them then maybe Newell although that’s doubtful. but Curaon is now my top vote.

@Steven: you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about because Yates is actually known as the “actors’ director” because that’s what he’s good at. He’s really good at connecting with the actors and the crew and therefore getting the best performances out of them. all actors whose worked with him always praise him for those qualities.

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I’m happy he won’t be touching DH. While I like some of his movies, he just wasn’t right for it. Though I’m also very disappointed he will be directing the Hobbit. Without Peter Jackson directing, I think I’ll end up skipping it.

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It’s great to read so many passionate comments on the HP movies & their directors. But I repeat, WB is in this to make a profit. The top $$$ maker is HP&TSS with $976,475,550 worldwide, followed by OOTP, GOF, COS and, finally, POA at $795,541,069 worldwide. Alfonso must not have done such a great job since the fewest people saw (or repeated seeing) his work. Turning DH into 2 movies would be great but I think that no matter how the fans feel, the final decision might include the profit motive.

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I am glad Del Toro is not directing. I don’t understand why people say he should do it just because of Pan’s Labyrinth. That’s the only good film he’s ever done. Did you all forgot Mimic?

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I wonder what Christopher Nolan would do with DH. He’s done some movies that I really like, but I don’t believe any of them have included the humor that is found in the HP series. But maybe DH has less humor than the other books because the trio are so isolated.

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No, you are all wrong! Nobody has delivered on a Harry potter movie the way Chris Columbus did. The first two captured all of J.K. Rowling’s brilliance and her story telling. Chris should have never let go of the series but, we understand why he did. David Yates just doesn’t seem to get how to develop plots and storylines? I just saw Order of the Phoenix again and I can’t believe the disjointedness of some of scenes and everything that was left out? I wish we could get another movie made the way Chamber of Secrets was? I am an adult and I have no interest in seeing this wonderful series dive into total darkness like some of the Harry Potter fans seem to want? Remember this was a children’s series first and foremost. Again if David Heyman is listening, bring back Chris and let him bring the magic and his talent to Deathly Hallows so, we can have something memorable for the series to go out on…......I only wish Richard Harris were still here as well because Dumbledore hasn’t been the same since he left us…...

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I am so in love with David Yates. I think it’d be really cool if he worked on Deathly Hallows. If not, that’s okay with me too.

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Disappointing, he’s a great director, but it’s cool if he’s doing The Hobbit, which is another movie I really want to see.

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@Elyzie: I completely agree with you. I think Yates is awesome. I love him. It would be amazing if he did movie 7 too because he’s clearly formed a bond with the actors now, but i think he might want to move onto to something else after he’s done with 6. directing two huge movies back to back is really tiring and i’m sure he’s not going to want to tackle something as big movie 7 is going to be right after he’s already done 5 and 6. but if he does do it then there will probably be a long break in between movies 6 and 7. which would work since trio and bonnie wright are going to have to look older for the epilogue.

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Damn. I really wanted Del Toro to direct DH.

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Becca, I’m sorry if this has already been answered, but I haven’t gotten beyond the first page. ;p Go to www.gravatar.com to get a picture in your post.

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Today is Lee Ingleby’s birthday… someone should post that! :)

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Dang it! I so wanted him to do it…he’s so amazing with fantasy…=[

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Please bring Alfonso Cuaron back! He was by far the best director of the series. He brought such a unique vision to the series as well as a a dark side that would be perfect for Deathly Hallows.

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Oh Well, I guess it’ll leave room for Cuaron (or Yates) to come back! (We need a Darker version, come on!)

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Well sheeeeeit. I really, really wanted him to direct. This is very depressing :(

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He is a reall good director, and they need a good director for a good movie!

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ANYONE BUT ALFONSO and I’m happy! I think he did the opposite of ‘get’ the world, he cared more about getting his own style in than about the story, and he turned Harry into a whining crybaby. Also I thought it was the most childish film, with the talking heads and the sad attempts at humor. But I’d be happy to get Yates back for the last one, I thought he did amazing with the last one. Everything that had to be there was there, and it was the longest book so he had the toughest job yet. GO DAVID!!

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Although I have been a fan of Chris Columbus throughout his film career, the Potter films have well passed his style. Columbus was and still is a great director for young talent, which was perfect for the first two HP films, home alone, etc, but the dark tone that Potter is currently progressing into is well past him, even if he wrote gremlins… I can’t believe you guys wouldn’t want Steven Spielberg on this project. He knows how to tell story better than anyone in the business. I would not shed a tear if he is hired. I love Alfonso, I think his style of filmmaking is changing the industry as we know it ever since HPPOA with the long takes, and great flow/transitions. I think Cloverfield reciently took his vision of filmmaking to an extreme level, almost being a documentary style. But after seeing Yate’s first crack at Potter, I see light-years of better “actor directing” than what Alfonso produced in Askaban. But you never know, the talent he had was still very young, and they are getting better with age of course, but that should never be an excuse at that level…

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Ummmm… I definitly say it should sooooooo be alfanso!!! He rocked the 3rd movie!! And #3 is my fave hp movie!!!

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I don’t think people are taking into account that PoA made the least amount of money out of the entire series, and if my memory is correct, it was the least by quite a bit. True HP fans didn’t like it as much, because true HP fans are the ones that will go to see the movie over and over and over again. I don’t think WB will go with him because they really are about making money.

The general consensus is that overall people liked Yates as a director, so I think they should bring him back for the last one. It will bring continuity to the series and I just don’t think it’s fair to the true hardcore HP fans to bring back Alfonso when so many of them seriously hate him and hate what he did to PoA.

So much of the story was missing, and so many stupid things were added, The talking heads, the five minute ride in the Knight bus that we had to sit there and watch the talking head, some of the really just plain sad attempts to be funny, Harry’s hissyfits, the whole scene in the shrieking shack just seemed sooooo scripted, and it wasn’t even dark it was just annoyingly dusty looking, and I could go on and on….

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You posted a while ago but I highly agree with every word Luna said, people on these posting boards need more optimisim. Im not so much talking about this post but the first time we found out that Helen McCrory was going to play Narcissa Malfoy- boy it just went on and on with negative comments, ” shes not what I pictured” shes too old, shes ugly, she will never work! Boo. Very juvenile things were said, I thought that was very sad, she is very capable and makeup can do wonders and if you cant get past your own opinion then you might as well stay locked in a room the rest of your life because it is hardly ever gonna turn out exactly like you want. And I mean come on! lets give the woman a chance, lets give all new additions a chance we seem to do this to all new cast members. FYI Helen is 39yrs old, thats not old people, and there are more pics of her then the one we saw. OK rant over

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I have no i dea who he is, but thats exciting that they’re making the Hobbit. I mean, its not like i love LOTR or anything. Harry Potter is like a kajillion times better, but i am sure that the movie will be good anyway

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Thank heaven! But Cuaron still wants to do it, doesen’t he? That puts a damper on my day in itself. Bring back Colombus or Yates, and all will be right with the world.

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I would like Tim Burton or Peter Jackson. Maybe the movie could almost as awesome as the book.

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alex, It is ridiculous to suggest that a “true” HP fans do not like PoA. I am a diehard HP fan. I’ve read the books 10 times through. Yes I was upset that the marauders background was cut, but that was as much a production decision as it was Cauron’s. Cauron didn’t say, “I want to cut the backstory.” It was a group decision. Actually, there is less cut from PoA than GoF or OotP. So I guess every fan who likes GoF and OotP aren’t true fans?

Things were changed, etc., but once again that was more of Kloves doing. I don’t know why people hate the talking head’s so much, when Jo herself said she wished she thought of it first! Is the plot or theme of the story damaged because he included a shrunken head?

Stephen, the books are dark. They have been from the start. When a series starts out with a double murder, it’s not just a fun, sweet fantasy story for kiddies. It’s dark and intense, and that is why people of all ages enjoy the stories. Deathly Hallows will be the darkest film of all, and it should be. There is much more horrific violence in this book than any other. I’m 24, and I’m still a little creeped out when I read about Nagini crawling out of Bagshot’s neck. It would be a disservice to the fans and the stories if we pandered to critics who think we should tone down the films because they are “too dark” for little kids.

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Thank heavens we don’t have to worry about Del Toro. Hopefully they won’t even think seriously about Cuaron. While many of you talk about his style etc. Azkaban was the least “Harry Potter” movie of the five so far. Making the least amount of money (in the series) and selling the fewest number of dvd’s should give WB a huge hint about what the majority of the fans thought about his version.

People complain about Columbus. Hmmmm, have you read the books? The books have become darker and more mature over time. Somehow, I think most people forget about that. I doubt the movies would have been nearly as successful if they had started out with the style of Cuaron.

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I don’t get why anyone would want Cuaron back. He took the best book of the series and turned it into a cheesefest (see shrunken head, freezeframe at the end on the firebolt, etc.), while leaving out a major plot point (Marauders).

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alex, youre wrong. Everyone hated CoS, which is why its sequel made much less money. Why do you think there was a huge dropoff for CoS from PS/SS? It’s because people hated PS/SS.

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I agree with Danpotterfan2002. I can’t believe that people would think that Steven Spielberg would ruin HP. he is one of the greatest director of our generation. He might have made mistake on how the earlier potter film should have been but now that he sees how the films are going, i think he would do an excellent job with DH. My first choice for DH was cuaron( but that definitely wouldn’t happen since there are people out there who really dislike POA) but spielberg would be a great choice. I don’t think David yates should do it, OOTP was good, but i could tell he was trying to copy cuaron. And he’s also doing HBP, so that’s enough for him. Spielberg would make DH an epic movie( check his resume of films i doubt you’ll disagree).

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Meek, Yates wasn’t trying to copy Cuaron. If you’ve seen his other movies on BBC, that’s the tone.

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I don’t hate Alfonso Cuaron at all, I think he’s a fantastic director and seems like a nice person – however, I personally got the impression from PoA that he isn’t really a good fit with the already-established world of Harry Potter. I think his strength is with films that aren’t adapted from a novel (at least from the ones I’ve seen – I definitely want to see more of his work)!

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I really hope it’s not Yates—although, HBP will give me my final verdict. If the 6th movie is anything like ootp though, then I definitely would discourage the pick for Yates…

Here’s to Cuaron!

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Well, I’m in the minority here, but I’m one thousand percent against Yates returning for the last Potter. The final film(s) needs a visionary director which is why I’d prefer Del Toro, Cauron, or perhaps Terry Gilliam. He’s done two films now, that’s enough. The final film needs a fresh vision.

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How can you not like Del Toro.

anyone who can make this http://imdb.com/video/editorial/me60015879 is a win.

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@ Luna , did you get my response and do you agree with me that ppl were horribly rude when postin about Helen being Narcissa, since we seem to be on the same wave length I want to know your thoughts, and others if you care to share, WITH OPEN MINDS!!

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I thought OOTP was poorly paced. Very little happened for about an hour and fifty minutes, then all the action was packed into the last half hour. I found myself looking at my watch during the Umbridge/forest scene both times I saw the movie on the big screen.

In truth, PoA was the best paced film. It rollicked without stopping for the entire length of the movie. I thought the acting could have been better, but the kids were also at quite an awkward time – no longer able to get by on their pre-pubescent cuteness but still, well, kids with only 2 movies under their belt that fully got by on cuteness and novelty. And the movie was at an awkward time, between a kids and an adult movie. I think Cuaron would do a fine job with DH.

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I loved Yates. He really brought the right feel to the film; the calm before a storm, dark kind of feeling you get when reading OotP and HBP. Newell helped, but Yates read the books, knew what went where and who dies and who goes with who, and brought out an especially amazing performance from Dan, and a truly united friendship between the trio. He added things like H/G moments and awesome tidbits for readers and film audiences alike, so I wouldn’t mind him coming back for DH. He did justice to the novel, I think, if one gets passed the cut things he really did get the basics and what was needed as well as just putting things in that were endearing to the book fans and unexpected by film fans. Soo. Yeah.

Though, eh, who knows. I think HBP will be phenomenal. But, it’d be cool if they could get an awesome war-motion-picture director for DH (one who’s read the books, though or else he will not get it AT ALL).

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Can we has Peter Jackson? Y/N/MEBE??

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I can’t say I’m dissappointed. I like Del Toro’s work when he’s the one who penned the story, but not when the story isn’t already his.

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OOTP was definitely the worst movie yet. It just seemed least “Harry Potter” of them all in terms of their outfits and how people acted. There was too much stuff put into it that just seemed to be there for laughs and weren’t really even in the book. I can’t really explain it any more than that though. It just had a very modern/non-harry potter feeling about the whole thing and I think if alfonso or someone else would have done it, it would have been a lot better.

I’m kind of upset about yates doing HBP but hopefully he won’t take it upon himself to ruin the last and presumed to be the best movie of the series by directing it.

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with that said, I definitely hope that alfonso does the last movie. The third movie was definitely the best. Even though none of the directors really kept everything from the book consistant with the movie, I really x10 hope that they respect the book and exactly how Rowling wrote it and tell it how it is.

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i pick alfonso because he has a great childish mind and is creative like with the dementors.he made thier shape so what if in the 5th movie they made the dementors faster and creepier he created them in the movie.he has a great mind the mind of a 8year old kind of like me i imagine stuff in my head ,and picture them in the real world.

dear,JKR do you think the producers ,or directors will ever come to los angeles,CALIFORNIA TO LOOK FOR MORE PEOPLE IV’E ALREADY GOT MY NAME,AGE,AND ALL OTHER STUFF PLANNED FOR THE WIZARDING WORLD.I love your stories and i hope you come up with another set of novels that will help entertain the next generation of readers like the harry potter seiries did.

can you give me a website were i can watch videos of the last book you wrote about harry potter. please write back,from arturo arce or just jr.

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i second Justin I think it will be great if the movie is exactly the way JKR WROTE IT.exactly the same thing. i’m 10years old

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As always, I vote for Cuaron. But Yates has made me a believer as well (I loved OotP).

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Imar, POA did not suffer because of people not liking COS, it had massive opening weekends worldwide. It made the least amount of money because it suffered the worst 2nd weekend drops because the public didn’t like it as much as the other movies.

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Absolutely, Quibbler! I always have to chuckle when I hear people blaming PoA’s gross on CoS. It had the best opening weekend and made the least amount of money (so apparently little return audience). It turned off at least one person I know to the whole series.

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I’m THRILLED that Del Toro won’t have a chance to screw up the final HP movie. Too much damage was done to the franchise by another supposedly great and insightful Hispanic director. I think they should either just stick with Yates (if he has the belly to go for 3 in a row), or come full circle and offer it to Columbus, who started all the “magic” of these films and is responsible for most of the great casting we now enjoy. No offense to Spielberg fans, but I don’t think HP fits his style/genre. YMMV

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What a pity… but if he didn’t have the time why he keep saying he want to direct it? Anyway, Heyman wants directors he can control… not someone with imagination and personality who wouldn’t like to be told what he has to do or how he has to do it. If he wanted Del Toro to diret it he would have talked to him years ago… Or a friend of him like Kloves…. there are hundreds of talented scriptwriters in teh world… and he keeps hiring that horrible and biased scriptwriter… the only reason I find is they are friends…

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Darmock, your ignorace hurts my eyes… Cuaron and Del Toro are not “Hispanic”, they are Mexican, Latinos. ‘Hispanic’ is something from Spain, which is an European country.

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BellaSnape, Yes, I did read your comments and I am glad you agree. I am sorry if I sounded like a bitch before but constant complaints always annoy me,

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I love how people are saying they want Columbus back but NOT Spielberg.

Columbus is a virtual Spielberg robot, his style is soooo much like Spielberg’s, especially his work from the 80’s, Columbus worked under Spielberg for films like the Gremlins.

Film critics called CoS “the most Spielberg-ish film that Spielberg didn’t even direct”

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Columbus doens’t make movies, he just brings the page to the screen, without any kind of vision or inspiration. I did like the first two movies, but only because it is Harry Potter. Cuaron is my hero. Het made the POA-movie a work of art, just like the book was. Yates is allright and he clearly understands the book an its characters. Newell didn’t get it at all with that agressive Dumbledore. And I didn’t liked that he made it seem like the triwizard tournament was lifethreadning. Like there wasn’t any security. Now it looks like Dumbledore didn’t care at all what happens to his student. “So they get eaten by dragons, or fall to their death, or drown, or get killed by hedges, who cares, I’m just gonna sit here and stare at it.” That’s what Newell did with Dumbledore. At least in POA, at the quidditch match, you saw that Dumbledore was watching over Harry. Am I the only one who’s was frustrated about the triwizard tournament.

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@ Redbeard, I have already stated that I dont like the GOF movie very much because it feels even more rushed than OOTP because it didnt have much heart to it. And so many characters didnt get the chance to shine and Ron was to PO all the time. People really need to stop and think about the OOTP movie Yates did the best job for a book of that size. Like someone said earlier he got what was needed and that is what counts. It had to be the most difficult of all the books. I cant wait to see HBP and if he does DH I will be happy.

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@bellaSnape: Ron is pissed off all the time. i just don’t get why so many people see him as this goof ball that just makes jokes 24/7. when in reality or fictionality in this case, he’s always getting upset because he’s got a bad temper. he’s always jealous of harry and he’s always trying to impress or start arguments with hermione. most of the time he just uses his jokes to express his insecurities about being “inferior” to harry or about liking hermione. i think they do an awesome job of expressing that in the movies, so i still don’t get what people claim the movie ron is supposedly lacking??

but whatever, I don’t think Newell was really a huge HP fan. i think he obviously liked it but i don’t think he loved it enough to put his heart into it. so that’s probably why GOF seems to be the least warm of all the movies. but i don’t think the book is really all that heartful either. book 4 used to be my fave and it still is one of my faves, but after reading books 5-7, GOF just seems like a road block you have to get over to get to all the excitement.

I hope Yates does movie 7 too because I just think he’s a really really good director and he’s really good at all the emotional stuff and the last 3 books are all emotion. and plus if he wraps up the series then i think it will be more sentimental and he will give it his all because he’s now made a strong bond with all the actors.

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This is just a polite way for David Heyman to say that del Toro was never in the running. He could have signed him at any time; del Toro was definitely available because he kept telling the media that he was. It looks like he didn’t make the grade. Del Toro’s movies never make you care about either the story or the characters. For Potter it’s not enough to just make things look nice.

OoTP didn’t get a single Oscar nomination, not even in categories where it was deserving. With Yates at the helm for HBP, we can be pretty sure of the same result next time, even if he makes a completely different film. It is very unlikely that he is being considered for DH. Unfortunately the people who can make DH work, like Cuaron and Newell, really are busy and Heyman is probably trying to work out how to schedule it with either of them, or some other pro.

One thing for sure about David Heyman is that he always does what is right, not what is easy. He always follows his instincts about directors, against conventional wisdom if necessary, and makes films for everyone, not the crazed fan fringe.

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I hope David Yates will direct DH, I think OOTP was the best directed

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I seem to remember a LOT of shrunken heads hanging in Gollum’s cave in the Hobbit. And didn’t somebody ride giant naked hairless Chihuahua werewolves someplace. And I KNOW one of the dwarves looked exactly like a Hitler Mini-Me. And remember that one scene where Bilbo asked if that was how his hair looked from behind????Seems that del Toro is gonna need a lot of help from his buddy Curaon on this one. I think he needs to take him along…....PLEASE!!

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@orwont: you’re probably right. i doubt the producers are going to be looking for another director until david yates turns it down. Yates does have the first dibs to direct movie 7, so he might do it. but i really don’t think he will because he’s probably going to want to do something else and maybe even get some sleep. because i know he’s probably only getting an average of 4 hours of sleep per night. but something tells me if Yates doesn’t do it then Alfonso Cuaron definitely will. If we can’t have Yates again then I really really hope Cuaron does it.

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I have mixed feelings about OOTP. On one hand, it is this gritty, dark, more heartbreaking Harry Potter…with the acting of all of the cast members being greatly improved. But, on the other hand, it is an adaptation from a mammoth of a book…which means major sacrifices. And some of the sacrifices may have hindered the full impact the film wanted to go for. The office scene when Dumbledore escapes, the casting of certain new characters, the ending, it was VERY choppy…no real ease or transition. Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy OOTP a great deal, I just wish it was better.

My choice for DH is definitely, without a doubt, Cuaron. PoA is the HP film that remains to impress and entertain me each time. I simply love it! But if David Yates did come back, I would not be upset in the least. I would still look forward to the film. Now IF Newell or Columbus came back….Well I think I would have to rip my hair out!! IF Heyman and the other WB execs are looking for a completely new director, why not Ang Lee or Joe Wright? I don’t think it needs to be a director who strictly works with fantasy films.

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@trustsnape: i still don’t understand all the fuss over the “is that really what my hair looks like from the back?” comment in movie 3, because i mean seriously it was funny and smart or not hermione IS a girl and girls do wonder what their hair looks like constantly, even if they’re not one of those stuck up, girly girls. so i think that comment was perfect and JKR liked it so there you go.

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too bad, I wanted a new face, and he’s so good!

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Omar your funny after all these posts of long bickering you keep it short and sweet, more power to ya, and yes I am one of the bickerers! LOL

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@Omar: well there are hundreds of directors out there that haven’t directed a HP film, so you still might get your new face. I still would rather it be a previous director though, but i went on imdb.com and i looked at all of their upcoming films and Cuaron has 4 films coming out in 2009, so there’s a big chance he won’t be directing movie 7, unfortunately, because i loved movie 3. Newell has two films coming out in 2009, so there’s a chance he might not do it either and Columbus has one coming out and plus he’s only directed like 3 films since COS came out in 2002, so there’s a big chance he could come back. i’m not a fan of Columbus doing it though, he’s just not dark enough.

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but here’s a new name: what do you guys think about Gore Verbinski directing movie 7??? he’s the guy who directed the Pirates of the Caribbean movies? Also Michael Hoffman, whoever that is?? M. Night Shyamalan expressed interest in directing one of the HP films. i just thought i bring up some more new names now that we know del Toro isn’t going to do it.

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i think we must wait , things usually changes how knows.. maybe Del Toro, maybe Spielberg… only professor Trelawney knows

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Gore Verbinski isn’t such a great director. He is really good for spectacle, but the director has got to be very carefull with DH and I don’t think he’s got the subtlety to do it. And M. Night Shyamalan really isn’t that good either. I have got two films of him and I love them, but DH is soo much more complicated and so huge. He couldn’t handle it. And he’s got a tendensy to make films that people find boring. And I don’t want Spielberg (who wants DH as a cartoon with Haley Joel Osmond as Harry) His ego is too big.

Okay, I’ll confess, I just want Cuaron back, allthough Yates would be a safe choice as well. I just don’t think he would make it the movie that it could be.

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Yates and Mike Newell were not good at all. I want Alfonso Cuaron back, POA was the best HP movie and omg Children of Men which he also directed is just such an amazing film. I really really want him to direct DH, he was make it so dark i would love it!! I also would love Tim Burton to direct DH but that will never happen because he has like 2 upcoming movies in the next couple of years. Guys can we start a petition to get Alfonso Cuaron back please? Who’s with me?

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Also i have to praise Cuaron again: POA was the only film that was genuinely funny, not just attempting to be funny. For example: The womping willow scene where the tree attacks Harry and hermione was just funny and neville getting his clothes torn by the monster book and the owner of the leaky cauldron owning that car outside and he just turns of the alarm, priceless! And the new characters introducted in POA, Cuaron just did it so well! Remus Lupin was just…well AMAZING! like 100% correct in my mind from what i expected from the book. I thought it was sooo acurate that Cuaron told David Thewlis to act like a gay junkie haha coz thats what Remus comes off as in the books. I genuinley thought Remus was gay in the books before he got together with Tonks. And professer Trelawny, well she was just so adorably funny in POA whereas in OOTP she sucked! she wasn’t funny at all! Yates showed absolutley no character delevopment or relationship growth in OOTP BRING BACK CUARON!!!

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Yates did a good job Kerrie, wat you are saying is bullocks. I loved Cuaron too, but I think Yates handled the characters just as well. I just liked Cuarons way of storytelling better. But it seems that the sixth film is going to be very different from OOTP, so… who nows what might happen.

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I want Cuaron to come back too, but I checked his imdb.com profile and he has 4 movies coming out in 2009, so of them are going to start filming in 2009, so i don’t think he’s going to have time or energy do a movie the size of Deathly Hallows. i really really want him to do it though if Yates doesn’t. But I found a list of all the directors that have been considered for directing one of the HP films and there were a lot more than I thought:

Terry Gilliam, Jonathan Demme, Mike Newell, Alan Parker, Wolfgang Petersen, Rob Reiner, Ivan Reitman, Tim Robbins, Brad Silberling, M. Night Shyamalan and Peter Weir were all considered after Speilberg backed out of doing Sorcerer’s Stone because he got the chance to direct A.I. first (thank God).

Obviously Newell hs already directed one. I don’t know how Tim Robbins’ name even came up. I know he’s a big Harry Potter fan, but I didn’t know he was a director. Ben Affleck is also a big Harry Potter fan, so maybe he’ll direct it. I heard Gone Baby Gone was good… but anyways, apparently JKR said in an interview that she would like to see Terry Gilliam direct one so maybe his name will come up.

(sorry this is so long): But here’s some more info i found on why Speilberg didn’t end up directing SS:

Spielberg reportedly wanted the adaptation to be an animated film, with American actor Haley Joel Osment to provide Harry Potter’s voice, or a film incorporated elements from subsequent books as well. Spielberg contended that, in his opinion, there was every expectation of profit in making the film, and that making money would have been like “shooting ducks in a barrel. It’s just a slam dunk. It’s just like withdrawing a billion dollars and putting it into your personal bank accounts. There’s no challenge.” In the Rubbish Bin section of her website, Rowling maintains that she has no role in choosing directors for the films and said “Anyone who thinks I could (or would) have ‘veto-ed’ him [Spielberg] needs their Quick-Quotes Quill serviced.” Heyman recalled that Spielberg decided to direct whichever project, out of Artificial Intelligence: A.I., Minority Report, Memoirs of a Geisha or Harry Potter, “came together first,” with him opting to direct A.I

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Ah, who wouldn’t want a director like Spielberg. He cares so much about the Harry Potter-movies, I mean, the loving way that man talks about them, it’s just touching.

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“JKR liked it so there you go.”

To quote a gargoyle “Well I guess I’ve been told!”

Come on! That’s the pat answer when people get pushed on Curaon….JKR liked it so it’s GOT to be really good. Harry Potter books are suppose to teach people to think for themselves. That line is movie girl cute and except when she is goading Ron to make him jealous book Hermione would never be movie girl cute. The point of Hermione is she IS a grill who doesn’t need to be movie girl stupid.

But given everything else Cuaron didn’t get, not getting that that is a small thing I suppose

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Redbeard: I liked OOTP more then GOF but it still felt waaay to rushed and way too much was left out. The only praise I will give Yates is that he got the younger cast to act better but as i said before Lupin, Sirius and Trelawney were very dissapointing in this film compared to POA. Trelawney wasn’t funny, Lupin didn’t have that air of mystery around him anymore and Sirius well he was just a bit weird in my opinion. And he totally changed the break-up between Harry and Cho. There was no character development in OOTP at all, you didnt see Harry and Cho’s actual relationship. They had a kiss scene and then you saw them chatting while walking, that was it. You didn’t even get to hear what they were saying! I wanted to see the big fight they had in the coffee shop. And so much was left out of the ministry of magic! it was ridiculous. They all got separated, Ron got attacked by brains, Ginny broke her leg and at one point Harry thinks Hermione is dead. NONE of that was in there!. At least Cuaron didn’t leave anything out. I only noticed the other day but the last half an hour of POA is just the last 3 chapters in the book. Cuaron devoted all that time to the most important chapters! I LOVE HIM! Well whoever directs DH cannot get away with leaving anything out. Every little thing that happens in DH is very important, evey little detail! I don’t care about HBP coz i don’t really like that book but in Deathly Hallows i want to see a 4 hour movie with CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT! I want to see Hermione and Ron cry properly, I want Fred’s death to be 100% accurate (with Percy shouting his head off) and i want the dramatic and scary scenes to scare the crap out of me! Especially in Malfoy manor when Hermione gets tortured, that has to be PERFECT! I’m a bit worried about the first few chapters in DH though, its going to look sooo stupid and pathetic when Voldemort is flying through the air while Harry’s in the side car of Hagrid’s motorcycle. And its going to look sooo childish when the trio are flying away on the dragon.

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@TrustSnape: You’re right. People have their own opinions about the books and the movies. And they deserve that right. People also imagine the books differently and the characters and the settings and everything else differently.

some people might imagine Hermione as being this hideous nerd with teeth like a beaver and an afro while others might imagine her as a pretty, extremely smart girl with big hair who’s insecure and hides those insecurities by burying her head in books, but in reality she really cares alot about the way she looks because she’s a perfectionist. everyone sees the characters differently. so there’s no point in arguing about it.

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@celia: right. Jo Rowling doesn’t have veto over the director (it’s extremely unusual that a writer gets that degree of control, and I don’t think Jo even wants that. Which is what we see in the quote), but she did insist on an all-British cast and Spielberg wanted Osment in the lead. So no deal. The proposal to do HP animated sounds like it was meant to feed Dreamworks’ animation division, there was no artistic merit in it whatsoever.

One of these days it would be interesting to know what JKR’s arrangement with the producers actually is. I don’t think anyone’s ever asked.

Of all the directors that were considered, Peter Weir would probably be one of the better choices because he knows how to make blockbusters, yet he’s also very sensitive to story and characters, to a very unusual degree. The question is whether he’s interested, if he’s even being considered.

Most of the other directors, like Demme, Parker, and Petersen, might make a more intense film but they haven’t done good work for quite a long time and there is a question mark over their ability to handle a big project. Shyamalan is considered a liability after his last project lost tons of money for WB. Jackson and Verbinski essentially make live-action cartoons, they don’t have enough range to do justice to Potter. Besides, they have their own production and VFX connections which Heyman probably won’t want anything to do with. Yates I don’t think is going to get asked again, and if he’s not exhausted after two films he’s not putting enough into it. Nobody has been asked back for a third film. Terry Gilliam will never work on a major studio project because he has a reputation for mismanaging budgets.. a shame since he definitely knows how to do this. And Newell, according to IMDB, will be tied up with something called “Elfstones of Shannara”. HP’s loss. Over to you, Dave Heyman.

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@will or wont: You’re right. I just really want Cuaron or Yates to do it. But like I said Cuaron has 4 movies coming out in 2009. But I would like to know JKR’s arrangement too. She doesn’t have rights to the films, so it’s not like they have to listen to her, but lucky for us fans, they DO. All the filmmakers, Heyman and Barron especially seem to really value JKR’s input and always ask her opinions on things and if they’re stuck then they contact her immediately and she helps them. Like she did with the tapestry and with Kreacher. So whatever her arrangement is, it’s obviously a good one.

HP could have easily been signed over to some Hollywood big shot that made the entire cast american and had Hogwarts set in Los Angeles, not London. That could have been done, because once JKR signed over the film rights then they pretty much have fair game to do whatever they please. So we’re lucky Haley Joel Osment didn’t end up playing Harry and Lindsey Lohan didn’t end up playing Hermione and who knows who could have been cast to play Ron. So i think they’re clearly on a roll and whoever they pick to direct the next film will probably be just as awesome as the previous 4 directors.

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Not completely true Wont. Terry Gilliam wanted to do philosophers stone, but he didn’t get the job. He’s still angry about that and doesn’t want anything to do with Harry Potter. I am glad Columbus got the first two. He isn’t a really good director, but he was a safe choice. He created a stabile world to build on.

Kerry, I like Cuaron better then Yates, but you’re not sticking to the facts when you say that Cuaron left nothing out. There are at least 5 comments on this board saying Cuaron left too much out. So don’t make Cuaron better than he actually was, just to hurt Yates. By the way, I liked what Yates did with Trelawney and Sirius. I too think Remus missed that are of mysterie, but that may be due to little screen time.

Celia, I think you are completely right when you say that everyone has got a different vision of the characters. That’s why I don’t completely understand why Kerry thinks that Trelawny should be funny when she’s getting fired. If Trelawney was being funny when she got fired, people wouldn’t see what a terrible woman Umbridge is.

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Redbeard: What exactly did Cuaron leave out besides Harry’s broom getting taken away? Thats the only thing i noticed missing from POA. I’ve always thought the POA film was highly accurate to the books. And you can trust me when i say that because i’ve read the book and seen the movie a LOT lol.

BTW I’m not trying to diss Yates but he didn’t portray Lupin, Sirius and Trelawney the same way as Cuaron did and that annoyed me because those characters where so much better in POA. And i honestly believe there was no character development in OOTP, there was not enough Harry/Cho relationship. There was not enough Ron/Hermione banter. And I was truely disgusted when they they didn’t show Neville’s parents in St. Mungos. And where was the humour in this film? There was only ONE funny moment in the whole of OOTP and that was when Fred & George apparate behind Molly and scare the crap out of her. Honestly, nothing else was funny! In POA there were several funny bits. I rest my case, i’m not trying to purposly insult Yates, he was way better then Mike Newell but he really could have done a lot better as regards character development.

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Oh and also Redbeard: even if Alfonso left out a couple of things, they obviously weren’t relevent or important because i didn’t even notice. I noticed LOADS missing from OOTP. I think i do have my facts straight because i just saw POA the other day and i re-read it a few weeks ago. To me POA where the only Book and Movie that actually matched, GOF and OOTP did not match the books at all.

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@Kerrie: That’s exactly why fans tend to find so much fault with the movies, because they watch the movies and they compare them to the books. The books and the movies are two completely different mediums. You CAN NOT compare them. Obvioiusly if you’re a huge fan then it’s almost impossible not to think about the books while we’re watching the movies, but that’ s what you have to do and that’s what i’ve learned to do. Even though I think the movies are as accurate as they can really get, I don’t compare the two. When I watch the movie, I watch as a movie, not as a book that’s been translated into a movie. POA and all the other movies are brilliant films, if they weren’t then they wouldn’t have made 4.5 billion dollars worldwide. There are tons of films based on books that are horrible. Look at all those other fantasy films that have tanked and it’s not because they weren’t just like the book,it’s because the movies just weren’t made well. But all the harry potter films have been made by awesome directors, producers, cinematographers, and screenwriters, so we have nothing to complain about.

I mean with a story like Harry Potter, you really can’t go wrong. Like Speilberg said with Harry Potter making money is just easy, you really don’t even have to try because the story is SO good. And all the directors have stuck to the main story, they’ve just had to eliminate some subplots that slowed down the movie version of the story.

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Excellent point CELIA. I admit that i do compare the movies to the books, but thats because i read the books first before the films came out and i am a huge book fan. But i can also say that it wasn’t just the missing information that annoyed me about OOTP. It was the lack of character development. As a person watching a movie (not comparing it to the book), I did not feel the relationship between Harry and Cho at all. Lupin lacked that air of mystery he had in the POA film. Trelawny was no longer lovable, she was just annoying. And Sirius, well he seemed completely different to the POA movie. In the OOTP book, Sirius is still a weird because he’s lonely and can’t leave the house. But that wasn’t portrayed in the movie at all.

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I don’t see a lot of the things you see Kerrie. I don’t think the portrayel of Sirius is different than in POA. And I don’t think Trelawney was anoying. I thought her scenes were done very well. So I think it’s more opinion than a fact actually and that’s allright, but you can hardly blame Yates for the fact that he didn’t direct it way you like it. About things missing in POA, Cuaron left out the backstory on the maurauders. I honoustly couldn’t care less about that, but most Cuaron-bashers take that point of view. And ofcoarse more is missing in OOTP. It’s a much much larger book. It’s harder to get everything in, don’t you agree? I do agree, that Lily should have been in snape worst memory and I really missed the scene in wich Hagrid was attacked en McConnagol was paralized. But I don’t think it made it bad film. And about OOTP not being funny, that’s all got to do with the atmosphere, wich was very dark and depressing. For what I’ve been hearing, the sixth movie is gonna have a lot of humour in it and it’s directed by Yates as well.

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@Kerrie: I read the books before I see the movies too and I still love them. But I don’t get what you mean about the relationship between Cho and Harry because I mean that’s pretty much what happened in the book. Harry got closer to Cho they kissed and then they went to that valentines’ day dinner that was disastrous because Cho thought Harry wanted to ditch her for Hermione and blah…blah..blah you know the rest. So I think they did a good job of shortening it. Cause I mean after they kiss all Harry and Cho do is fight and she starts crying.

I completely disagree about Sirius. I mean Gary Oldman did a brilliant job of portraying Sirius’ lonelinesss and how useless he felt. He didn’t have to come right out and say it because you can see it in his eyes and the way he says things to Harry like on that part during Christmas when they go into the drawing room and Sirius says something along the lines of, “This is my old family home. I’ve offered it to the order to use as headquarters for the order of the phoenix…it’s the only useful thing i’ve been able to do.” I think in that line you can tell how much bitterness, loneliness, and resentment Sirius is feeling. And on that part when he’s talking about the tapestry. You also see how much he misses James when Harry mentions him and on that part in the ministry when he calls Harry, James. So I think they did an awesome job of developing Sirius in movie 5.

And when in the hell was Trelawney ever a lovable character??

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CELIA: aw i thought Trelawney was so cute in POA, even though she was a biatch to Hermione she did it in such a cute oblivious way, she had no idea she was being rude thats what made her fun. I can’t beleive u didn’t like her in POA! I did not expect them to show every moment Cho and Harry had but seriously, there was only one scene where they were chatting and you didn’t even hear what they were saying. You didn’t actually know anything about their relationship from that film. All they did was kiss and then they broke up. It totally sucked. We didn’t even see the proper break up. They left out the whole relationship really. They also screwed up the break up. Harry and Cho did not break up because Cho told Umbridge, it was Cho’s friend who told Umbridge about the DA and Harry and Cho had a big fight about it and all. Where was that in the movie? and then there was the fact that Cho was jelous of Hermione, which was also left out. OOTP should have been 30 minutes longer for Character development. I’ve read loads of professional reviews of OOTP and they all say the same thing, It was too rushed with no character development. I wasn’t trying to argue with you i was just giving my opinion. I honestly thought Lupin, Sirius and Trelawney (especially Lupin) were just portrayed better in POA. They’re characters seemed more like the characters I read in the book while in OOTP they seemed too different from the book. Again, I am guilty of comparing the movies to the books haha, i just can’t help it.

REDBEARD: Alfonso didn’t really leave out any backstory for the Marauders. As i’ve said before, Alfonso spent 30 minutes just on the last 3 chapters of POA. He could not have made the shreiking shack scene any longer. Yes, Lupin could have said his big speach about the Marauders but it would have been a complete waste of time. Lupin already told Harry that he was good friends wiith his parents and that was all we needed to know. It was obvious he wrote the map because he knew all about it when he took it from Harry and he knew how to use it. Alfonso was smart not to waste time on the speach because we didn’t need it. We can’t always have everything handed to us on a plate you know. Sometimes we have to use our brains lol.

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@Kerri: I thought Emma Thompson’s acting was really good in POA and I really enjoyed the comedic stuff she did in that movie. But I think she also did a great job in movie 5. I mean Trelawney is off her rocker in the book too and that part where she tells Umbridge that she’s in grave danger is funny and quirky. And in that scene where she gets sacked, Trelawney is just as shocked, and helpless as she is in the book. That scene wasn’t funny in the book at all.

I didn’t really miss all that stuff about Cho and Harry and I don’t even remember Harry and Cho having any type of conversation. And even so, it really doesn’t matter because we know he ends up with Ginny anyways. And I think they did hint at Cho being jealous of Hermione and Harry’s relationship because when Hermione ran up to Harry and told him that Hagrid was back and Harry just ditched Cho right in the middle of whatever they were talking about, Cho did have a really disappointed look on her face. I thought the character development was really good. I mean how much backstory do you need 5 movies into a franchise? All of the HP movies are just continuing a story, there are moments wjhere they remind you what has happened so far, but I don’t really think you need alot of that.

If anything, I really would have liked to have seen St. Mungo's hospital because that is the only time we see it in the whole book. and i also would have liked to have seen Sirius give Harry the mirror.
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I will agree with you about the the scene where Trelawney gets fired, its obviously not meant to be funny. But the scene where she tells umbridge she’s in grave danger is not funny. its too predictable, to boring and i saw it coming before it happened. As for the Harry and Cho, you clearly don’t mind all the detail missing. I do mind the detail missing, it bothered me. Yes Harry ends up with Ginny anyway but Cho was his first crush and it was a big part of his life. They didn’t give the relationship attention as regards an actual relationship. They were boyfriend and girlfriend but we didn’t see that. All we saw was one kiss and them chatting once. To me that is not satisfactory.

I’m afraid you’re not going to change my opinion on the charactor development issue. This is not just my opinion, I think its fact. There was no character develpment in the movie at all. I’m sorry but its a fact, everyone knows it. Everyone knows the movie was way too rushed. The movie went from start to finish with no middle. And every review of OOTP metions that.

I very much agree with you on the St. Mungos thing though. I really wanted to see it too. My heart just broke for poor Neville in the book when Ron was acting like a total idiot saying “are those your parents neville?” I wanted to give him a big hug lol. And i nearly cried when his mum walked up to him and gave him the sweet wrapper :( so sad

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Thank GOD! He would not have been right at all for Harry Potter. The last has to be right.

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I don’t think you’re being fair Kerry. You don’t think the backstory on the marauders map was important, but you do think that the little chat between Cho and Harry in that bar was important. Would you please think about what story was actually more important plot-wise. And could you please explane to me how well the characters development was in POA, compared to OOTP? I don’t mean to be a nag, or change your opinion (okay, maybe a little), but I’m just curious.

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I am relieved Guillermo cannot direct this film, not because he can’t direct, but because Alfonso Cuaron deserves to direct the final film. He has expressed interest in entering the Harry Potter universe again, and based on HP3 he absolutley should. Prisoner of Azkaban is easily the most artistically beautiful of the films, and Cuaron seems to “get” the HP world better than any of the others. Even the effects were considerably better, look at the CGI difference between the hippogriff in 3 and the giant in 5, but even worse, look at the difference between the dementors, which were eerily, beautifully, terrifying in 3, but looking look someone with a sheet in 5. Harry Potter 3 was the best reviewed of the bunch and the one with the most top 10s and awards. Give number 7 to Alfonso—he more than deserves it and it’s the best thing for the series.

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me gustaria que siguiera siendo director de la peli de harry potter

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Well Redbeard i just beleived that the characters were more like the book characters in POA rather then in OOTP. The way all the characters interacted with eachother in POA, it was like a real HP book. I really felt i was reading the book while watching POA. Ron and Hermoine fighting over scabbers, Lupin chatting to Harry and teaching him how to fight dememtors. All of it was just so accurate. I beleived that Ron and Hermione were really pissed off at eachother in POA, while in GOF, that fight they had was just pathetic! I laughed when i saw that the first time lol. To me it was like reading the book again while watching the POA movie, thats why i love Afonso, he captured the essence of the charaters 100% Yates was an ok director, and i understand that OOTP was so much longer then POA so obviously there would be more missing, but i really think that movie should have been 30 minutes longer because i didn’t feel any bond between any of the characters. Even when Sirius was talking to Harry in OOTP, i could hear and see the bond on screen but i could not feel it. The same with Harry and Cho and Ron and Hermione. The only character that was 100% in OOTP was Luna Lovegood and thats because Evanna Lynch basically has the same personality as Luna haha. At the end of the day i think Alfonso really puts the characters personalities on screen while in the other movies i felt the actors were just reading their lines, not acutally in the moment ya know? POA was really the only film where i felt Emma Watson was 100% Hermione and Rupert was 100% Ron. Lupin was 100% too and as i’ve said before, Trelawney was just deadly the way she had no idea she was being rude to Hermione but did it anyway. Hope that explains where i’m coming from a bit more. Sorry that you can’t change my opinion, i’ve very stubborn when i comes to Harry Potter and Alfonso, he’s one of my fave directors lol. To me the man is a genius!

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And Jerry thank you so much for saying all that!! I 100% agree. The dementors were crap in OOTP weren’t they! I love alfonso. Unfortunalty i heard from someone on mugglenet that JK Rowling won’t let Alfonso back she doesn’t like him because he wanted to change too much according to her. And he has 4 films out in 2009 so he’s gonna be too busy anyway. Its a shame really becuase Alfonso really deserves DH the most out of all the past directors.

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You thought Hermione and Ron were accurate in POA, but a lot of other people thought Hermione was too cool and too girly and Ron too much of a laughing stock, so I still think what you say is more an opinion than fact, but, to make an end to the discussion, I also hope Cuaron will come back. I liked OOTP and I do think Yates did a good job, I just think Cuaron did a better job. CUARON FOR DEATHLY HALLOWS!!

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well ok fair enough if you think that what i said is opinion not fact but lets remember that Hermione IS a girl haha and that Ron does have a tendency to make a fool out of himself in the earlier books. To end our disscussion i think Yates did a good job considering that the book was so long but again i say that i didn’t not feel any character emotion or bond. Oh well, lets just hope they get a great director for DH who doesn’t leave anything out because EVERYTHING in DH is important.

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Just two words: ALPHONSO CUARON!

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right on!

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It’s nonsense to say that JKR won’t let Cuaron back “because he wanted to change too much”. For a start, all the directors are obliged by contract to stick to the basic story. That was Jo Rowling’s deal with WB. We also know that Jo Rowling liked Cuaron’s work. She doesn’t even have veto over directors. She can express a strong preference, but Dave Heyman has the final say.

My guess is that Heyman is still trying to sign Cuaron. He’ll need to do a deal by April or May at the latest because preproduction will have to start as soon as possible. It might also be that a deal is close or closed but that nothing is going to be reported for a while.

It’s odd that Leaky hasn’t announced that Newell is already out of the running for DH, given his commitment to Elfstones of Shannara, which will keep him busy for the next year or two at least. Nice to see that Newell has WB’s full trust to launch another fantasy franchise though.

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and don’t forget the prince of persia movie Newell will be making.

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Well i’m going by the behind the scenes stuff on the POA disc. Apparently JO was furious that Alfonso wanted to put Munchcens (sorry spelt wrong) in the POA movie and she made sure he wasn’t alowed to do that. And apparenlty he wanted to add other stuff that wasn’t in the book so she was not happy. But i love Alfonso so i hope thats not true.

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Redbeard: I hope Heyman is still trying to sign Cuaron, but i don’t think thats true because Cuaron has FOUR films to be released in 2009 so he may be way to busy or may want a break from films after all of them. I But i really hope Cuaron directs DH, he’d be the best for it out of all the past directors. However, If they get someone new, it should be Tim Burton without a doubt. Tim Burton is so creepy and dark and weirdly funny, he’d be perfect for DH.

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I’m just afraid that Tim Burton would be too … I don’t know, opinionated. He wouldn’t be willing to make sacrafices because it’s Harry Potter. He would insist on “TIM BURTON’S Harry Potter” Oh, and Jo wasn’t furious at Cuaron. He proposed the midgets and she declined, because it didn’t fit in the world. She loves Cuaron as filmaker. He has a lot of great ideas and he doesn’t have to listen to Jo if he doesn’t want to, he just does, because he want’s to make it as authentic as possible. I did get the feeling that they wanted to do DH in 2010 actually. Radcliffe spoke of some time of between the sixth and seventh film. So maybe Cuaron could be in anyway.

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omg Tim Burton wouldn’t do that! Sweeney Todd was based on a musical and he didn’t change it to suite himself and he didn’t call it “Tim Burton’s Sweeney Todd” The only film he did that for was Corpse Bride and thats because it wasn’t based on anything, it was completely his not like his other movies. And i didn’t realise about Alfonso, i didn’t actually see the the POA behind the discs, i heard it from someone on mugglenet. Where did you hear all that information that she really likes him a film director…she could be just lying in interviews to sound nice ya know lol. I hope Alfonso directs it, hopefully he’ll be able to. But as we all know it takes like 12 months to make a Harry Potter movie so he’ll only be able to do it if his other movies are finished in time so he can work for the full year before the november 2010 release date.

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It was in the interview on the second disk. I know Rowling could have lied, but she not the type for that. She loved ‘y tu mama tambien’ and she wished she had thought of the shrunken heads herself.

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