Watson and Radcliffe Win at 2008 Otto Awards

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May 06, 2008

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As we first told you in February, actress Emma Watson was nominated along with her Harry Potter costar Dan Radcliffe at the 2008 Otto Awards from Bravo Magazine. An update comes today regarding the awards via Emma Watson’s official site which reports that both Emma and Dan won in their respective categories at the awards ceremony. Readers voted Emma (Hermione Granger) the Best Female Cinema Star and Dan Radcliffe (Harry Potter) best in the male category.

Many congratulations to Emma and Dan!





135 Responses to Watson and Radcliffe Win at 2008 Otto Awards

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congrats emma and dan!!!! feel sorry 4 rupert, though….

1st comment!

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Yet ANOTHER kudo to JKR, Dan and Emma!!!!! I do so hope that ‘Half Blood Prince’ garners as much~I kinda think it will!!!! Go Team Potter!!!!!

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CHEERS and Congradulations Ems and Dan!!!!!

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Let’s raise a butterbeer in celebration. So Happy for you Dan and Emma!

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I hope I’m saying what many of you are thinking:

In what ways is Emma a credible actress to win so many awards for her acting? I’ve seen nothing even remotely comparable to others in her field.

Yay for Dan though.

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Yay for Dan and Emma!

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poor rupert! he hardly ever gets awards! and i think he’s the best out all of them!!

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Rupert fans:

Don’t worry. This was another user voted popularity thing. Rupert is just not as popular. He can be our little treasure.

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O__o What the hell? Damn, none of those kids deserve those awards! Seriously, just because they’re popular for their looks and characters doesn’t make them credible for such awards. I mean really, throw some over to other actors and actresses that can actually act. D:

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I wouldn’t say that, Sue Age! I think Dan is a very wonderful actor…just not for HP. His other works are worth watching.

And I think Rupert is an untapped resource. In just the two characters he has played, wow.

It’s just Emma that bothers me. I haven’t seen anything from her that I would deem award worthy in any way.

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Finally!!

I much prefer the positive news to the negative.

Congratulations Emma and Dan!

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If only Emma’s last name were Damme, and Dan’s last name were Nad, then they would be as palindromic as their Otto awards!

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Think they are all quite good actors but have to admit there are better out there. Personally I thought Dan was good in December Boys but ,in my humble opinion, rubbish in Harry Potter! Ooops sorry Dan fans! I think Rupert and Emma are great though. Although yes Emma does over act a little but I still cant imagine the films without her! She is the hermione I see when I read the books, so she must be doing something right (at least for me anyway!)

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Hm, I think that Dan is great as Harry Potter as well. Just look at the developement…(wait is that the right word oO….my english is getting worse and worse and worse…..) If there’s a better Harry we’ll probably never know.

Rupert is just fabulous. The best they could get.

In my opinion Emma is getting better and better in every movie, but it seems to me that she puts too much effort in acting perfectly. So it looks a bit unnatural and Hermione is not really looking like Hermione. I think without that she could be really really great. She’s got the talent.

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Rupert Grant did an amazing job in the HP Series. To top it off he was amazing in “Driving Lessons!”

Daniel Radcliff did an amazing job in the HP Series. To top it off he was amazing in “December Boys!”

Emma Watson did an amazing job in the HP Series. To top it off she was amazing in “Ballet Shoes”

Not to metion other threatrical productions they have been in or future film events they will partake in! Of which they work VERY hard at!

Many blessings to each and every one of you working very hard towards anything you set your heart in in a positive light which certainly sets an excellent example of determination, hard work and success!
For those who would rather be negative; Karma: Being negative = comes back at you X’s TEN

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I fail to understand why Leaky continues to report these bogus awards that are merely results of popularity contests among (pre-)teens. They hold no credibility whatsoever and get boring very quickly when it’s always only Dan and Emma. Why bother, what’s the news?

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Now EVERYONE who worked in the HP series did a top notch job and deserve reconition as well. Every cast memeber who has ever worked and who ever will work in the HP series gets a big applause! Not to mention where the series origionated from. It is the greatest honor to be able to have it as a part of my life the way that it is now.

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Why always Rupert is the “perfect-actor-boy”and Dan and Emma are “the populars-images”for the people of the negatives comments?Dan and Emma are GREAT ACTORS and Rupert too but sadly for Rupert he’s boring and Dan and Emma are very populars and have good looks

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“and Rupert too but sadly for Rupert he’s boring and Dan and Emma are very populars and have good looks”

Which shouldn’t matter when it comes to talent. These awards are popularity contests voted by teenagers with time on their hands.

Go ahead and find all of the positive critical reviews Emma has gotten that don’t mention her looks….they are small in number compared to the other two.

Dan is an amazing actor…I’ll give you that. Rupert gets the highest amount of critical acclaim in relation to the amount of films he’s done.

Emma…not so much.

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Congrats to Dan….and oh well Emma as well (even though I´m not fond of her “acting”)

Just wondering: “Would those award still be considered “just-popularity-voting-awards” if Rupert won instead of Dan?

And what about Johnny Depp winning the Silver Bravo award: Did he do that because he´s the second most popular male actor, or because he´s a great actor?

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Congrats Dan and Emma! It’s good to see them get recognized for their hardwork. Emma doesn’t deserve the hare dhe gets so it makes these awards even more special.

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I agree with you Bec, although I dont think Dan is a ‘rubbish’ actor. He wasnt that good to begin with I admit, but he has definately got better. Personally I thing these awards are a load of rubbish. What nonsense, anyone with an ounce of sense would not give them much credit. And for those who wonder why Rupert never gets awards well, although many people do love Dan and Emma (after all most of these awards are simply popularity contests) it is worth bearing in mind that they have also been heavily critized for there portrayl of their characters in the past (you only have to read some of the comments to realise that). Whereas Rupert not so much.

Also I think they gather more attention simply because Dan is the lead and Emma is kind of the leading female.

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I have to honestly say Emma Watson doesn’t deserve an away. I am not trying to be mean, its just that I don’t think she’s a very good actress. I think its alway Emma and Dan winning the award because Daniel’s the star and Emma’s the girl. Rupert’s always left out, and he’s the only one who’s believeable as an actor. I honestly think Rupert deserves an award way more than the other too, i mean HELLLO he’s in the movies too, he only wins awards if its all three of them or the movies winning awards, its completely unfair. I LOVE WON WON.

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“Just wondering: “Would those award still be considered “just-popularity-voting-awards” if Rupert won instead of Dan?

And what about Johnny Depp winning the Silver Bravo award: Did he do that because he´s the second most popular male actor, or because he´s a great actor?”

Of course! When anyone can vote, you can’t trust the world to go on talent. Tilda Swinton has never one a votable award, but she won a damn oscar.

It’s a popularity contest no matter who wins, I’m just mad that the winners sometimes seem to be lacking.

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“And for those who wonder why Rupert never gets awards well, although many people do love Dan and Emma (after all most of these awards are simply popularity contests) it is worth bearing in mind that they have also been heavily critized for there portrayl of their characters in the past (you only have to read some of the comments to realise that). Whereas Rupert not so much.”

Exactly! He gets GREAT reviews. It’s never negative. Well, I haven’t seen a negative one for his portrayal of Ron yet. Heck, even when Driving Lessons was being canned, he was still considered very VERY good.

Dan is really great in his other projects. And he wowed me in OotP.

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Hmm…I dont think this is a very credable award. But you know what always strikes me with awards like these is that SO many Rupert fans complain about him always getting left out ect.. but then why dont YOU vote for him?! So many of these awards are voted for by the public… It is strange. Maybe Emma and Dan’s fans are just more devout and Rupert fans are lazy buggers! lol

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I wouldn’t whine about Rupes not getting an award voted in by anyone an everyone. That’s not his style. Rupes fans are a little lazy…we’re channelling him. I would be mad if Dan or Emma got credible recognition and Rupes didn’t. But that hasn’t happened.

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Eruditewitch I wasnt talking about you particually, just commenting. And I really am not slagging off Rupert fans, I am one of them! lol. But I do think that, as each of the trio are very different, so are there fans.

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Oh I agree! I think they are very different. I actually did some looking into it regarding age and personality. Rupert fans tend to be a little older, a little calmer, and just different. I’m part of Rupert fan communities, and we just gawk at pictures, talk about his roles, and cross our fingers for more scripts.

There’s not much voting, screaming, fainting, or anything like that. It’s just kind of the Converse’s and Dirty Jeans of the fan community. Much like Rupes himself.

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Congratulations Emma and Dan! :)

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‘Converse’s and Dirty Jeans of the fan community’ ha ha thats so true! And proud of it!

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I say the same,Why Rupert is the “perfect”of the trio and the other two are only “popularity”“images”and “more attention because Dan is the lead and Emma the girl”?when Rupert has been nominated all the people “great”“he deserves”but when Dan and Emma win awards “this is not credible award”.here the people have so much envy of Dan and Emma,i think.

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Could you elaborate on your claims, Sarah? Because what I’m seeing is lamentation about the skills of Dan and Emma as actors, and how this makes them undeserving of a ‘Best Actor/Actress’ award in their fields. I disagree in part because I think Dan is amazing.

But I’m not seeing anyone saying that if Rupert won it would be more credible. It’s still a popularity contest.

Rupert is more talented than the other two, IMO, and that has nothing to do with being a super star.

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’ I think its alway Emma and Dan winning the award because Daniel’s the star and Emma’s the girl. Rupert’s always left out, and he’s the only one who’s believeable as an actor. I honestly think Rupert deserves an award way more than the other too, i mean HELLLO he’s in the movies too, he only wins awards if its all three of them or the movies winning awards, its completely unfair. I LOVE WON WON.’

That is the thing. Young people love ‘Won-Won’ but they are not the people who really know what acting is. I used to be the same when I was a teen but life and my love for acting has taught me (at least to a certain degree) to appreciate that ART and recognize where talent is and what you must look for when seeing somebody performing. Grint is not bad at all in my opinion but he lacks a lot of the qualities necessary to face acting as a career. First he needs to get rid of his acting ticks. And stop mumbling his lines. That might look very ‘cool’, ‘natural’, ‘believable’ and ‘funny’ but try to do that on serious stage acting (just an example) and you are doomed.

Those awards mean nothing, yes. This kind of award will do nothing for Radcliffe and Watson’s careers. A pity. But I am not surprised at least Radcliffe won his (although I am not delusional and I know he didn’t win this one for his acting skills). He was simply amazing in OOTP. Not surprised about what I have seen in December Boys, Equus and My Boy Jack. I almost expected it. That young man is developping in a really remarkable performer. Looking forward to his next non-HP project.

Can’t give a serious opinion about Watson. She has possibilities. Her acting in HP is a bit irregular from my point of view. She is great in some moments and poor in others. Also needs to get rid of some acting ticks. Looking forward to watching her in ‘Ballet shoes’. I am sure that will give me a more real idea of what to expect from her.

My two cents on this matter.

And I almost forget: I love Harry Potter and I couldn’t care less about awards and who is better or worst. Simply enjoy the fun those movies bring to my life.

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@ Erudite Witch…”I hope I’m saying what many of you are thinking….”

NOPE! Not I, in this case…To any and all who care [or not] Be they “bogus awards” or “Popularity votes [and I don’t consider some of them “popularity votes”...they are FAN BASED Votes], they BOTH deserve their well deserved kudos. Yes, Johnny Depp came in 2nd. I really like him, too. That doesn’t mean he is any less a good actor. Nor does it mean that Dan is any better actor. As for Ms Watson: She has worked hard, on HP as well as other projects. Yes, there was a lot of award-giving for Order Of The Phoenix. It [in MY humble opinion] has been the best, so far. I also think [again, my humble opinion] that Mr Grint will receive some of the well-deserved kudos he has earned, all through. Just my opinion and, well, there it is!

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Sarah I was critisizing the award not Dan or Emma. I think them winning this award is due in part to their situation within the films (does that fact detract from their ability as actors, ummm no I dont think so). I also think both Dan and Emma are modest enough to realise this.

It is not just Rupert fans who can question the credibility of this award (I think these sort of things should not be taken seriously by anybody) but obviously they have more reason to do so then Dan or Emma fans! Thats not mean just the way things happen. We have more opportunity to moan! lol If Rupert did win an ward like this I’m sure most Rupert fans would be really happy but that doest necessarily mean we would think the award was credible or not. It would just be nice for him to win something! Also most Rupert fans actually like the other actors as well you know! lol

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And who has said that Rupert is more talented that the other two?Rupert’s fans?Dan has received GREAT reviews for Equus and My boy Jack.December Boys isn’t a good movie but his performance is very good , he will be Dan Eldon and i think that he will be fantastic because the movie will be very interesting,ah and the debut on Broadway.Emma has received great reviews for Ballet Shoes.so,they has proved that the two are great actors and not only “popularity”and “images”.

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The problem with these awards is that they give the illusion of talent….

That’s what I’m saying.

Giving Emma and award for Best Actress is alluding to her being the most talented actress out there.

The truth is, she’s the most liked on the voting list.

There’s a difference. And calling her best actress based on a vote is like calling black licorice the best tasting candy because everyone in black licorice town loves it.

Of course it’s not the best. People just like it best there.

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I must admit, I would like to see Rupert Grint get some recognition!

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“And who has said that Rupert is more talented that the other two?Rupert’s fans?Dan has received GREAT reviews for Equus and My boy Jack.December Boys isn’t a good movie but his performance is very good , he will be Dan Eldon and i think that he will be fantastic because the movie will be very interesting,ah and the debut on Broadway.Emma has received great reviews for Ballet Shoes.so,they has proved that the two are great actors and not only “popularity”and “images”.

Thank you captain obvious. If you aren’t a fan of someone, you don’t think they are talented. I am not a Johnny Depp fan. I think he’s been the same character for the last decade. If I said, I hate Johnny Depp’s acting but he’s a good actor, I would sound ridiculous.

Rupert has gotten more positive CRITICAL reviews for his ACTING than Emma has. That is provable, and I’ve offered it up in these comments before. Dan has done more, and therefore has lots of accolades. But if you just look at the reviews for GoF and OotP, the consensus is indifferent on Dan, talks only of Emma’s looks, and talks about how underused and underrated Rupert is.

Please, prove me wrong.

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@Sarah please stop trying to turn this into a Dan v Rupert or Emma v Rupert debate, because its NOT. We get your point, your a big Dan fan. Well, for the record, so are most of us too. People are just giving their opinions and just because someone thinks rupert is good does not automatically mean that they think Dan is bad (although, I guess some people may)!

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I agree, Dragonhandler!

I am a huge Dan Fan. I hated December Boys, but that wasn’t his fault. I was moved by his performance in OotP and My Boy Jack. I think Dan is amazing. He deserves praise over and over.

I’m a bigger Rupert fan. I just like his style better. I think his acting is more subtle and he can do more with his face than most. That is a valuable characteristic. Dan tends to be over the top sometimes.

I am not a fan of Emma. Though that may change. I like her clothes, I think she’s sweet and bright…but I dont’ see anything special about her acting. I actually can find more bad points than good.

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I agree with everything Mario said about Dan and Emma I do love Rupert Grint, I think he is a good actor, and just adorable

However, I was able to see Watson’s performance in Ballet Shoes, and I thought her acting took a great step up from the Harry Potter series, she still has lots of room from improvement as she is still growing as an actress and, but she does have that potential. People are all allowed to have opinions of course, but everywhere I go, usually livejournal , they are always saying how she’s a horrible actress , complaing about her eyebrows etc., I think people shouldn’t be so quick to judge when we haven’t really seen what she can accomplish outside of the HP series.

Eruditewitch, you do have a good point of the awards giving a illusion of great talent, but I’m sure Emma knows she has lots of room for improvement , I mean for goodness sake she’s only 18! Her confidence in becoming an actress was severally lacking a couple of years ago, so Im sure Emma certainly does not think she’s the greatest actress out there today.

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I kinda like all of the trio to be honest but I dont think ANY of them are the most amazing actors. I just would really really like Daniel Radciff to learn how to cry on film for Deathly Hallows!

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“but if you just look at the reviews of GOF and OOTP”YES I LOOK,i look so much reviews and in the 90% say that Dan was really good in the two movies.hey,i don’t say that Rupert is a bad actor,he is very good but i only say that the three are very good,well Emma has the problem of the eyebrows,but only this.this is my opinion,you could have other.

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I wonder how Liam Aiken would have done as Harry. Just saying.

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If you are directing your poorly worded rants at me, Sarah, maybe you should pay attention to what I say.

I think Dan is really good. I never once doubted Dan.

Emma is not worthy of all the praise she gets, as they create the illusion she is more talented than she is.

Rupert gets enormous critical acclaim. Did you miss that part when you apparently read all of those reviews?

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rupert doesn’t have a lot of screen time compare to Dan, that’s why critics see less flaws while playing Ron compare to Dan while playing Harry, but even with the inmense amount of screen time Dan has he gets critical acclaims reviews. Lets take alsp on consideration that Rupert has to prove he can act as a different character to Ron, Ben was a very similar charater to Ron nothing that made an impact on his career. you may like an actor but sometimes the IMO has not barrel for who really is the talented one.

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“I just would really really like Daniel Radciff to learn how to cry on film for Deathly Hallows!” (kayley)

I don’t get why people expect tears from Harry in DH. Are we reading different books? Nowhere in the series, except possibly towards the end of HBP, did I read Harry as crying, certainly nowhere in DH. Maybe there’s a cultural difference; perhaps in other cultures you expect to see more emotion so you read tears into any emotional scene. But Harry isn’t the crying type (in the films they have had him blubbing once or twice, for which I blame the screenwriter!). He’s quite emotionally stifled, and even ashamed of showing such a weakness. This is why I like how Dan portrays Harry, because he underplays emotion, which for me is exactly as it should be done with Harry.

“But if you just look at the reviews for GoF and OotP, the consensus is indifferent on Dan, talks only of Emma’s looks, and talks about how underused and underrated Rupert is.” (eruditewitch)

Whilst I agree with your views in general and that Dan especially was subject to indifference in early films I do just want to say that this wasn’t my experience with the OotP reviews. I read about 200. Half were quite vague; if they mentioned the actors it was as a group in a generally positive way (typical quote: ‘the three leads are improving with every movie’) or a generally negative way (‘the three leads still can’t really act’). Of the decent length reviews (100 ish) I read a few negative ones of all three actors. But a large proportion specifically single out Dan for praise; the only other two actors who were singled out in that way are Imelda and Evanna. Only a handful actually mentioned Emma and Rupert as individuals (and then it was alongside Dan rather than singled out); those that mentioned Rupert were mostly positive whereas if Emma was mentioned (which was not as often as Rupert) it was negative. I remember all this because I was very pleased to read such a positive consensus about Dan, who I personally began to admire after GOF (I was more of a Rupert fan before).

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Congrats on the Win you two. I also leave a vote for Rupert.

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Congratulations! Radcliffe did a great job in OotP so he really deserves all awards.

Rupert’s fans are booooring, always saying the same things…

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I would usually, at this point, direct you to a page on Rupert-grint.us where you can read a VERY long list of positive reviews about Rupert in OotP, but the site seems to not be working.

There are more than a few that mention Rupert positively.

But I do agree, Dan gets praise, and with good reason.

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The fact of the matter is no matter who played Harry Potter, they’d be getting the same accolades. It’s not Dan winning, it’s his popularity as Harry Potter that is winning. When Dan wins for something non-Potter or when he gets nominated for an actual merit based award instead of these joke awards, then he’s made a mark. Until then, only the very naive will not see how it’s all Potter popularity based.

The same for Emma. Her portrayal of Hermione is subpar at best, but because she’s cute and the female figure head of a HUGE movie series, people decide to pay attention. Heck, how can she even be the “Best Actress” if she’s a supporting character? Those titles are usually saved for women who actually carry the movie with their performance, which she doesn’t. If some other cute girl played Hermione, they’d be getting the exact same awards.

That’s how it goes. It’s never more apparent than to see just how Rupert is treated with these things. His skill is clearly better than Emma’s, but because he plays the second male to Dan’s main character and because he’s not necessarily conventionally good looking like Emma is (even though I will say I think he’s adorable) he gets passed over for the more popular (Dan) and the cuter (Emma) actors. Quite sad really.

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I agree, this is just practically another popularity contest. =) Congrats to DAN! :D

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Awards are just the way the film industry celebraties their most successful films by showcasing their most popular actors. Awards are a popularity contest, not a true assessment of talent. Emma is an attractive young woman, but she’s only a fair actress. Dan is somewhat better, but he benefits more from wise type casting than acting talent. Ironically, the best of the HP three, Rupert Grint, is not cited for an award. Alfonso Cuarion speculated that of the three, Rupert was the most likely to have a successful career as an adult actor.

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Yes Jedsil,Alfonso Cuaron said that but when the three had 14 years.Dan is a fine actor now.i think that now he has the better future of the three leads.and if Rupert is the best actor of trio why he has done only one film in 7 years?

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Ok, none of us actually go for the amazing and stellar acting of the trio. They’re great, but I go to see harry potter, not the acting. This is just a popularity contest, not an acting contest. If they brought Rupert out more, maybe they would see him for his acting too.

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I would like to thank anna (with the small a) above for talking about HP reviews, I could not have said it better. I read almost all reviews on Rotten Tomatoes too and my recollection is that Dan got just about the same positive reviews as Rupert, and while Rupert was cited for being under-used, Dan was commended on the way in which he had carried the franchaise. I feel that Rupert is a better actor in the beginning but at this moment, there are little differences between him and Dan, whatever Dan lacks in term of based-line natural talent, he makes it up by cultivate it. So, at this particular junction, whoever get award or recognition, I will say congratulation to them all.

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These awards may not be about talent but I know he is very! I’ve got eyes in my head. Bravo! congratulations to Dan!

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I agree with KillerKitty I think Emma has gotten a lot of heat for her role, even from the beginning when she was just a kid, and she’s expressed publicly how much she wants to impress us fans. Perhaps it’s not as important anymore, but it can definetely be an extra stressor for her, which might explain her tick now. But I do think that she does a great Hermione and it’s up to the directors to watch that tick.

As for Dan…well I thought he made a huge improvement from GoF to OoTP I think he’s portrayed Harry accurately. I love the fight scene at OoTP his acting was incredible. I do think other actors should get more awards wink Rupert and Matt wink but will wait for HBP when Rupert has a more prominent role and Matt with Neville’s heroic acts in DH.

Also all award shows are based on some form of popularity…the only ones you could claim were not are things like the Math club, in which, obviously, the correct answer wins. So, don’t step on your high horse yet.

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@Eruditewitch lay off of Sarah…you seem very eloquent in your English, she seems like this may not be her first language, so perhaps there are some miscommunications. We understand your POV, as previously stated you wrote it quite well, but it doesn’t mean in any sense of the word that you are an absolute. Even if you are on the panel to judge the Oscar nominations I would not say you were an absolute, so please let’s be civil and allow everyone else to say their piece.

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dan and rupert are ok actors but emma is the worst of the 3 espically in movie 5. she uses her eye brows too much ill i can focus is the bloody eyebrows. emma is just a pretty face i agree with that but i think she is a bit over rated, there are so many better actress out there.

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I don’t think it’s just HP that gets them the award. Dan for example only recently started winning the gold statue, and this year he beat out Johnny Depp, which is a huge compliment. Both had huge movies/franchises. It seems to me that if Harry was a “Harriet” , and Rupert was the main man, Rupert would still not get the best male actor award. He just doesn’t have the “it” factor. Dan and Emma have it , I think. It’s why the Spiderman actor doesn’t even seem to get a nod, another huge franchise. No one recognizes Rupert or is interested in him- it’s why he never gets on those other end of year lists, even when he had his own movie out. Actors are a dime a dozen and need that something special. He’s just too ordinary- the audience wants to fall in love with someone. It’s also not just looks, though. Megan Fox didn’t win, for example and she’s gorgeous. To win these awards, they also DO have to be considered good actors, or else they would not get nominated. For those saying Emma is a bad actor, and acts with her eyebrows, look at it this way. She doesn’t have comedic scenes- that’s not her role. Her role is to explain things to the audience or being female, to humanize things (giving hugs, comfort etc.) Her role is more emotional compared to Ron’s, who is mostly played for laughs even in the book. (He gets all the funny lines). So if all or most of her scenes are emotional, of course her facial expressions would be the same. Same with Ruperts-the scared look he’s famous for.

I also disagree that “consensus was indifferent to Dan”. No. Dan got a lot of accolade for carrying Ootp . For those few mentioning rupert and emma, most mentioned how reduced their roles were. It brings to mind that IMDB writer who wrote how laughable that Rupert had been nominated in that public poll for best supporting actor against roles like Jake Gyllenhaal’s in Brokeback Mountain. It doesn’t even come close.

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“Go ahead and find all of the positive critical reviews Emma has gotten that don’t mention her looks….”

I’ve seen plenty. “Good looks” is an excuse: There are a pretty nice amount of good looking actors out there that are panned for their roles and there are plenty that are praised. Looks don’t matter as much as you seem to think (at least not critically).

Anyway, I like them all. I’d say Emma and Dan are on the same level (naturally talented but with a long way to go) and Rupert is too underused to judge, imo.

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I agree with YOU SARAH Totally!!! LOL! We have the same name!! Everytime emma or dan win an award people just say they didn’t deserve it and rupert does. THEY DO DESERVE IT!!! I mean rupert does too, but it’s not emma and dan’s fault that he never got nominated! ARGHH! And wouls the emma bashers just stop it! Coz there are heaps of emma fans that come here and probably leave with sad face coz of people wasting there time dissing Emma!! Emma is, to tell you the truth, one of my FAVOURITE actresses!!! Without her Harry potter would never be the same!!! People diss her about her eyebrows….I mean she only started that in GOF!! Don’t U realise she never did this in the first 3 films!!! Anyway i think she deserves the award, because not only does she act, but she is so nice and caring to us Fans and on top of all that…She’s the only actress I know that seems to be getting on with school and studies!

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To be honest Emma is my favourite actor out of the trio, I just couldnt imagine another actress playing her role. She is hermione. I have to admit at first I was unimpressed with Dan but after GoF and OotP he has just gotten better and better. But in all honesty neither one of them deserve to win awards (yet), there are SO many brilliant actors out there.

@Radcakesfan. What a ridiculous and mean thing to say ‘no one recognises Rupert or is even interested in him’. It is clear from this site alone that is obviously not true, and that there are many many people who do think he has the ‘It’ factor. By making comments like these it seems that you are simply trying to antagonise others. It is actually quite sad and pathetic when people feel the need to praise one member of the trio while simultaneously ripping into another member (particually if they’re doing it just because somebody else dared to like him).

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Sorry, i’m talking about the general public. Not everyone is a hp fanatic and knows who they are. Dan gets a lot of attention and is almost always in the press (he has had a lot of other projects besides HP) and presumably Emma has a huge fanbase because her numbers are always “up” and have been for many years (Dan’s too but not as high) and from what i’ve read it’s not just little girls. Rupert’s are never “up there”. shrugs

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Oh and grapple, it seems to me there are a whole lot of people here antagonizing others by their criticisms. Why should some actors be ripped into constantly and not others? Everybody dishing criticism knows someone else is going to argue back or state their opinion.

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To be honest if your not really interested in the HP films anyway I’d doubt you’d know who ANY of the trio are. I think you’r obviously determined to compare the trio against each other and I just find that completely pointless. I really dont care whos ‘numbers are up’ or whatever. It’s not a competition. Everybody is perfectly entitled to like who they like without recieving criticism for it or somebody else deliberatly bashing the person they admire.

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Oh and Radcakesfan, I dont think any actors should ‘be ripped into constantly’. But you seemed to deliberatly set out to do that, not because somebody has criticised anyone, but because a few people expressed a preference to Rupert.

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Actually, i don’t think Emma is a bad actress from what i’ve seen. I do think she has an affinity with the camera- the way she holds herself and she certainly swayed a ton of people with the hermione/ron thingie so I don’t see how they can call her bad all the time. Seeing as how they film a scene x number of times, and do it various ways, it is ultimately the director and the film editor who decides which take they like. If they end up choosing similar scenes (ie where she uses her eyebrows to convey sincerity or worry, which hmm, people do use), that’s their fault. I think it’s the internet and these comment boards which take a single idea and run with it. I’d bet less people would have noticed something or cared, had not that happened. Also there are people who know who Dan and Emma are but not the “red head” -“who?” i’ve heard radio and read forums/blogs etc mentioning just that. They’re kind of hilarious. About the numbers, ronfans know it themselves. Incidentally, you have noticed most others here comparing the trio to each other? Maybe read over this board…

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Oh yeah, and about choosing those scenes with eyebrows lol, the thing is, those are the kind of scenes she gets, what few she gets, (considering everybody’s roles are cut down drastically from the book, including Harry’s)

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Okay so there are people out there who dont know what Rupert’s name is. Does that really matter? i dont understand the point you are trying to make. I dont think that is ‘hilarious’ and really dont think that detracts from his abilities or achievments in his own right. You seem so concerned with ‘numbers’ or whatever, I really dont think they matter. Is this a contest where you are trying to see who is more popular then whom? lol. How pointless. And incidently I have read over the comments and as I recall there were other people who were saying something like ‘Im a fan of whomever but that doesnt meant I dont like the others too’.

But anyway, it doesnt really matter, If you cant see my point then, oh well!

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Rupert never wins ANYTHING! I mean yay for Dan and Emma but it’s really unfair! Just cause she’s female…

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I think Dan is a much better actor than Rupert, mainly because I have seen more from him. I am not saying Rupert is a bad actor, I just haven’t seen enough from him – I hate to sound mean, but I am usually either indifferent to his performances or annoyed at them. That is just my opinion, and obviously other people’s will differ, so don’t think that I am having a go at him, I just haven’t been impressed by anything I have seen him in yet. He needs to do more work in order for me to change this view (again, this is MY opinion).

I also think that Harry is a lot more of a complex and well rounded character than Ron or Hermione are (though their characters are fuller in the books of course), and this gives Dan the opportunity to expand on his performance because a lot more is expected from him than from either of the other actors. I am not saying that Emma/Rupert wouldn’t be able to rise to it if they had the same roles, they just don’t. Harry is the LEAD, Hermione and Ron are not. They are LEADING characters, but not the the LEAD. So the characters and actors shouldn’t be compared in that sense.

I doubt Emma’s acting skills because I find her too over the top, I don’t really notice this “eye brow problem” people have, but I constantly find her way of speaking and inhaling before each line an annoyance. This is something she needs to control because it doesn’t serve any purpose. She does the same thing in Ballet Shoes, where she did better.

As to these awards, first and foremost – ALL AWARDS ARE POPULARITY CONTESTS – regardless of who it is that is voting for them.

I think the awards probably should have been Favourite Actor/Actress than Best – as this is the main problem people are expressing here. Also, I really think that the constant protests from Rupert fans for his lack of recognition is really tiresome.

Sorry for the long post…

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I wasn’t gonna comment on this except to say congrates to Emma and Daniel and then I saw the trash talking… What the heck is wrong with you people saying “Emma doesn’t deserve awards etc” Jealious much? Cause I’m sure most of you who commented nasty stuff don’t have the guts to get up and act! Oh sure, you’ll prob. say, “I’ve done acting in school” but thats way different than what the trio and the rest of the cast do. You try juggling school and act for what, almost 7 years now?? Go watch some “True Stories” on TV about children who grew up in front of the screen. They will tell you it wasn’t easy and I’m sure its not easy for them.

This posting was to congrates Daniel and Emma, not be a jerk and rip them down. What the heck is this, TMZ??

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OK radckesfan Dan is the best actor ever, even better then Johnny Depp! EVERYBODY knows who he is! He is a bonafide Superstar! I just absolutely can not stop talking or thinking about him, he is so AMAZING! How dare anybody even think about prefering someone else?!

Oh my God Rupert is so cool he doesnt care about winning a STUPID award anyway! Who needs awards! The FANS do thats WHO! Please, please give Rupert an award, Im not gonna stop whinging about it until SOMEBODY votes for him! Coz I cant be bothered to do it myself!

Sorry, but thats basically what these comments amount to isnt it?

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i agree with alot of peope who says that these awards are just a popularity contest at the end of the day. i have my personal favourite, which is rupert but tahts mainly because of the character that he is poirtraying. at the end of the day people it isn’t like they won an oscar or anything is it( can u imagine) anyway at the end of teh day people would have forgotton about this award soon. good on them and all and i don’t think people are jealos of emma or anything , or any of them for that matter. i think that they just don’t like her acting style.(sum may be jealous though) ok well i’m just ramblin now but i think we all have to agree to disagree on this one but just accept that we all have our favourites and becasue emma and dan always get the awards and rupert gets non is just the way the world works today.

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sorry bout long ramble it’s my first post on leaky yah love the site though yeah HP rules

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huh? all this discussion for an award given by bravo? i used to read that magazine when i was thirteen. that’s all it is: a magazine for (pre-)teens that has a horrible layout, trashy love stories and a lot of sexual education. nobody over the age of 14 would go near it with a stick. i’m not even sure that this is newsworthy. the year these kids don’t win an otto, that is when they have lived beyond their teen idol status. i’m sure danrad cringes at this award. i remember thinking the same thing back in my days about the winners of the award. “take that” and such. always wondered why they smiled on the photos when it must have been excruciating to receive these awards rather than the ones that count.

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outlaster – that reeks of arrogance and ingratitude. It’s recognition at the end of the day and some people actually care about their fans, I’m sure neither of the trio would be so dismissive of something their fans had voted them for, what you said comes across as snobbish. Hmm, were you a Take That fan then?!

It’s not so much the magazine or the awards that people are discussing now, it’s more the nonsense rivalry between the trio’s fans, and the unerring booing and hissing from certain individuals.

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People should stop saying Emma has bad acting skills! I mean Evanna Lynch had more lines then emma in OotP. We didn’t see her as much as we did in PoA. In PoA she was the lead character and she was the BEST actress out of the whole cast in PoA!! Emma did superbly! But in OotP she didn’t have as much as she did in the pervious films. In DH she is the lead character again so we will have to wait and see untill DH comes out so we can have the REAL Emma come back! In OotP she was really good though. She showed how much caring she is to Harry! Dan and Rupert did great too!

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@ Steph saying “When Dan wins for something non-Potter ” – he actually did – he won the Theater Goer’s Choice award for best newcomer (or something like that) for Equus. And it’s not just a pre-teen fan magazine award either. There’s also talk of an Emmy nomination for My Boy Jack, and some have even talked about a Tony if he does Equus as well on Broadway as he did in London. Now – I have to admit – I’m not a “fan” of any of the actors – I don’t go to fan sites, I don’t care about who they kiss, and I don’t care who is more popular. But, I’m very detail-oriented and just feel the need to correct inaccuracies. I love film and theater and music, and I pay attention to these things as a whole, and I read many reviews, even on events I never plan on seeing or attending (like Equus – I really never liked that play). I also like reading and love the Harry Potter series – that’s why I watch the movies – they’re fun and although the books are much better – I like seeing the scenes re-enacted on screen. I think all three do a great job – they have grown on me and I couldn’t imagine any other actors in the roles at this point.

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@ EruditeWitch,

Do you ever tire of posting the same old boring drivel?

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wooo! lets crack out the bubbly to celebrate :)

congratulations emma and daniel

i feel sorry for rupert love him but ar well he can still celebrate on their behalf and good luck to all in the upcoming months

:):):):)):):):):):):):):):)):):):):):):):):):)

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Well it IS working

http://www.rupert-grint.us/reviews/ootp/index.html

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It’s sad that any of these awards have to get a lot of people to arguing over the young actors [all of whom have talent and have no control over who wins any of these things]who portray the characters from these books.They[Dan,Rupert and Emma]seem to have such a possitve attitude toward each other ,it is a shame others can’t follow thier lead.:o(

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I agree with Hpfan. Why is it that every time one of these awards is announced, we get the SAME PEOPLE posting the SAME OPINIONS they’ve posted a million times before??? How many times do you have to tell us Emma Watson is a bad actress and Rupert doesn’t get the credit he deserves????

GIVE IT A REST!!!! WE GET IT!!!!

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“I hope I’m saying what many of you are thinking:...”

@eruditewitch, your self-importance may be getting out of control. We Leaky fans are perfectly capable of speaking for ourselves.

I’ve also been critical of Emma’s performance in the HP films and I believe Rupert is a very good actor. But your endless bashing of this girl is ridiculous.

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YAY! congrats to emma and dan, but why does everyone have to feel sorry for rupert? i am a huge rupert fan, but just because he doesnt get one award doesn’t mean you have to feel bad for him. yes, i admit, he does get outshined by emma and dan, but rupert will also have his chance to shine some day.

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Isn’t the Rupert fan whining slogan of ” Rupert is overlooked although he’s the best actor in HP,” getting stale? These fans must be under the illusion that if they keep saying it often enough, it would come true. Your opinion of Rupert’s acting skills is only your opinion and don’t slag this Bravo award because it is also the OPinion of German fans. It just so happens that there are more people who think Dan and Emma are good than fans who think Rupert is good. Cut it out already! No matter how you sugar coat it, very few people think that Rupert deserves any award yet.

BTW – For the Rupert fan witch who keep saying that the critics praise Rupert as being underused in HP, will you just listen to what you are saying? That comment is not exactly praise for Rupert! It actually implies that Rupert’s not good enough to be noticed because he didn’t do much and his talents can’t still be seen. He is onlya potential waiting to happen. And considering that Emma and Rupert’s screentime is about the same – well, at least Emma continues to be noticed, overactive eyebrows and all.

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Willow – thank you for posting a mature opinion, which is a rarity on these boards.

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“He just doesn’t have the “it” factor. Dan and Emma have it , I think. It’s why the Spiderman actor doesn’t even seem to get a nod, another huge franchise. No one recognizes Rupert or is interested in him- it’s why he never gets on those other end of year lists, even when he had his own movie out. Actors are a dime a dozen and need that something special. He’s just too ordinary- the audience wants to fall in love with someone.”

You talk as if Rupert is the most unattractive out there. Do you think that Seth Rogen and Jonah Hill are more attractive? Is Drew Barrymore’s ex, Tom Green, more gorgeous to you? How about the rest of those Judd Apatow boys? Rupert in the knee-length shorts in Thunderpants look so much more cuter than Michael Cera in gym shorts in Juno!

Since PoA, Rupert has ceased to be just the funny looking kid in harry potter. The reason why there’s debates about his looks is because he has become too gorgeous to be just the goofy sidekick that the potter franchise intended for him to be. I dont think they ever wanted him to be profiled as an alternative to the lead star, nor do they even plan to, til the end. It is just the fact that Rupert chooses to stay in the background, and low profile (like that spiderman actor) that is reason why he is. It may be the studio’s advise too. But when he makes up his mind to start re-inventing himself soon or after the potter movies, then you would have something to watch out for!

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AWESOME!!!!!!!! I LOVE HARRY POTTER ITS FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!! MY FAVORITE CHARACTHER IS DANIEL/EMMA SO GREAT,I THINK EM AND DAN SHOULD BE 2GETHER??? THEY ARE PERFECT,BUT I HEARD THAT THE HPHBP EMMA HAVE TO KISS RUPERT,AND DAN HAVE TO KISS BONIE!!!!

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“The reason why there’s debates about his looks is because he has become too gorgeous to be just the goofy sidekick that the potter franchise intended for him to be.”

Another exaggerated opinion about Rupert’s “gorgeous” (?) looks. No, MIchael Cera is not better looking than Rupert but since Cera is nothing in the looks department either then it’s a bad choice for comparison since Rupert is not much in the looks department either. What he has is just like Cera’s. Not leading man good looks but just your ordinary or average cute looks that won’t get nowhere in Hollywood without great talent. And that’s what Michael Cera has. Some noticeable talent (comedic also like RUpert’s) that has given him notice from critics and landed him in some Good young actors list. A feat that is not shared by Rupert.

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The “good” young actor list you are referring to I’m sure is Entertainment Weekly’s which is highly biased and bottlicker of Judd Apatow’s proteges. The difference between Michael Cera and Rupert is that Cera has a supportive mentor in Apatow who treats his proteges equally, all talents and a gold mine, together or individually.

Rupert, from the start, was only meant to be a comic relief in the potter franchise, and as I’ve said, never to be profiled as an alternative to the lead star. The franchise never expected any conflict or even the least form of attention rivalling the lead star’s because Rupert is not supposed to even be regarded as anything more than a foil for the other leads, not like how Ron really is in canon. It is obvious from the start that the WB’s plan was never for movie!Ron to ever be canon, but to be acting according to the movie formula that they believe in. However, from the start, Rupert was critically acclaimed as the better actor compared to the rather more charismatic lead, something that they did not expect, which eventually becomes more of a curse for him in this case. Add to it that Rupert has now grown out of the stereotypical goofball looks that the franchise required for their comic relief.

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babycakes – your idea of “gorgeous” and a lot of other people’s idea of it are very different. He is not that good looking in my opinion – I actually think the twins, Dean, and Neville are better looking than him, he is ok looking but that’s it. But the fact that you are bringing this all down to looks is very shallow, and it undermines the point you are trying to make of Rupert’s talent. You keep going on about him breaking through and reinventing himself etc etc – why hasn’t he done anything to prove these points true? He hasn’t worked enough to garner attention. And he is in severe risk of being known as Ron only. And as to the reviews he has got, I haven’t seen anything particularly outstanding about his performances in the latest films. If he actually did other work then it would give people a better idea of what he is capable of. I also think your WB conspriacy against Rupert is your own way of justifying why he’s been left off so many lists.

Last year Rupert and Dan were both nominated and shortlisted (against Johnny Depp and someone else I can’t remember) in the National Film Awards here in the UK. And Dan got a lot more votes and won. So this shows that he has a bigger fan base than Rupert, so why make such a fuss when he wins over him? If you don’t like Dan or Emma, that’s fine, but stop turning Rupert into some sort of martyr. He needs to prove his worth, and by this I mean outside of the Potter franchise.

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miriam or honey cake, what you said about the idea of “gorgeous” goes both ways. Rupert has both looks and talent. You have not understood what I said, I said “if he decides to start” re-inventing himself. Rupert chooses to be low profile, chooses not to compete or chooses to be whatever the franchise wants him to be. It is his choice and he is not in “severe” risk of whatever you say. You havent seen anything outstanding about his performances in the latest films because he barely has screen time. If Dan has a bigger fanbase, why then did Driving Lessons do better at the box office than December Boys, even with the A-list promotions for December Boys in big shows like Ellen etc and being shown in more countries than Driving Lessons? Any online voting is easy to manipulate and unreliable proof. Dan is more popular only in perception.

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If it is all perception for Emma and Dan, then why does it matte so much that Rupert be “recognised”? All this does is show envy amongst the fans. It’s nonsense. If you believe that these polls don’t matter, then you shouldn’t complain about Rupert not being listed. AS to the Driving Lessons and December Boys comparison – that’s fair enough, but Daniel’s performances in My Boy Jack and Equus have been both successful (financially) and critically acclaimed, so I doubt December Boys matters. The same can be said of Emma Watson in Ballet Shoes, it did very in ratings and she did get praised for her role (although I personally didn’t think she was very good, it’s that inhaling thing thing she keeps doing!!). And Rupert may have done really well in Driving Lessons, but what else? First you say he is laid back and doesn’t choose to compete – then you say that he chooses to be whatever the franchise wants him to be – which of these is it?

I’m not saying that he shouldn’t be laid back, but he should be careful if he wants to have a successful career in film. Is he being offered other work? He’s had a lot of time between the HP films to fit somehting else in, sure it’s fine if he doesn’t want to, but then why get all annoyed that Dan and Emma get a lot more attention? Dan and Emma are in the public eye a lot more because they have been working in other things, and in Emma’s case she’s becoming more social. Rupert does neither. What do then expect?

I’m sick of Rupert fans continually being blinded by their obsession of him. He is not perfect. You are not “in love with” him and he not the greatest actor ever. He is an average looking, very nice and sweet young man, and that’s about it.

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Rupert Grint is the greatest actor ever! and we LOVE him!

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and seeeeeeee he is holding an award!!!!!!!!!

YAY!

ALL THREE of my favorite actors with awards in their hands with big smiles!

So deserving!

WE LOVE THEM ALL!

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WE LOVE YOU RUPERT GRINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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wow!! will the posting for this ever stop?? lol

interesting thing to watch ;)

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Comparing box office results for Driving Lessons and December Boys is sort of like saying, “my ant is bigger than your ant.” In other words, both were small. They were independent films with limited distribution. Get over it.

I find this endless discussion really weird and kind of entertaining all at the same time. Carry on….!

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bebe..very well said: Neither Rupert or Dan did Driving Lessons or December Boys because they wanted them to be box-office hits, No they did them because they wanted to do something different from Harry Potter.

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”@ EruditeWitch, Do you ever tire of posting the same old boring drivel?”

@HP Fan, excellent question. I doubt you’ll ever get an answer.

The comments on Leaky about these “awards” is so predictable. It’s really become boring. The same posters telling us for the umpteenth time that Emma doesn’t deserve it and Rupert does.

I hear that Dan, Rupert, and Emma are very fond of each other and get along very well. If they ever see any of this stuff, I hope they get a good laugh.

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Is pretty ridiculous the obssesion of Rupert’s fans,always saying “poor Rupert”“Rupert deserves the award too”“why they and Rupert not?”.if Rupert wins a award what happen?the world will change?STOP this boring comments!!and i agree,Dan and Emma have a lot more attention because they have been working in other roles and their popularity is much more big than Rupert’s popularity,sadly for Rupert’s fans.with only one film in 7 year is difficult that he gets more attention than Dan and Emma.

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With Driving Lessons, there were 3 other fanbases to pull on, those of Laura linley, Julie walters, and the writer himself, (forget his name) who wrote Mrs Brown (enjoyed that) and some others. All 3 are award winning and so it wasn’t just rupert that was the drawing card. There was no one beside Dan who was famous (except maybe that old guy in Aussie). I don’t care how big or small the projects Dan does, i just want to see them. He did December Boys to get his feet wet, and is still going on, as emma has other projects too now that she is done with school.

It’s just sour grapes for those people who say this is a nothing award. They’d be hollering and whooping it up if their fave guy had won. It won’t affect their careers any, but it is sure nice recognition for now, especially for their fans.

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“Rupert, from the start, was only meant to be a comic relief in the potter franchise, and as I’ve said, never to be profiled as an alternative to the lead star.”

Aren’t you putting down your own idol a bit much? Or justifying his lack of appeal to many? The trio has always been presented as together and that created the illusion that they are all equal, hence, the whining if Rupert is not included in anything that Dan and Emma are in. The truth of the matter is – Dan is the lead and Emma and Rupert are both on the same level, just secondary characters. They are the ones who are supposed to be equal. And if all of you R/Hr shippers are to be believed – everybody knows that their charcters are going to end up together so that makes them even more equal. The fact that Emma outdistances Rupert in popularity and awards is a problem that only the Rupert fans don’t know the reason to.

BTW, I don’t agree that WB is dumbing down Ron. They may have exaggerated a little since the kid’s good in comedy but they have almost approximated his character in the movies. Even JKR once said that Ron is not deep enough and will not swim in anything deeper than a beer. She looks at the script you know.

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hi,I am an indian &i think that Emma is a great actress. I am Emma’s fan . Congrats emma&dan for Win 2008 otto Awards.when I saw Emma’s movies in all the part of harry potter.I think that the couple of emma & harry is perfect.We are Emma;s friend only.I am chintan & my friend arpit miss Emma realy.

Please read this dont ignore it.
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sorry for bad meaning about Emma&dan because we dont know perfect english.

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Chintan, you said things just fine !

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Seriously, Emma overacts more than anyone one else on screen. She doesn’t deserve these awards! If she wasn’t so popular she would be turned away from every casting. I feel sorry for Rupert who is by far the most talented actor of the trio. Just because he doesn’t go out of his way to gain public affection doesn’t mean he’s “boring.” He probably just knows he doesn’t have to be in the public eye at every opportunity to have a career after Harry Potter.

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OMG!Ruby can you tell me what person EXPERT has said “Rupert is by far the most talented of the trio”?.Rupert is the most talented of the trio in comedy,but in general in the movies he doesn’t do anything more.Harry is a character most difficult than Ron and Hermione and Dan does a great job with the emotional problems of Harry.the desesperation of Rupert’s fans is boring,sad and ridiculous.

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Ruby, its all been said before. But it doesnt make what you say any more true. Rupert is not a very good actor and he does actually appear in public, but the press aren’t interested in him.

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“If Dan has a bigger fanbase, why then did Driving Lessons do better at the box office than December Boys”

Because of the studio, you cannot compare Sony Independet (many years in the business) with the new studio in WI (only a few years old), they didn’t want to invest too much money on distribution, but even with less theater where DB was played compare to DL, DB and DL were no so far away in Box office numbers

DL: $1,210,393 Domestic: $239,962 (average 21 theaters in 17 weeks) Foreign: $970,431

DB: $1,168,068 Domestic: $50,715 (average of 8 theaters for ONLY 3 weeks) Foreign: $1,117,353 95.7%

Even with less theaters DB was very close to DL – just imagen if they would have added a few more weeks and more theaters…

But the sold out Equus show and the 1st place high ratings for My Boy Jack shows how what kind of star power Dan has compare to Rupert that even with two very popular actresses didn’t do so well in Box number for DL.

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When DL first came out and was said not doing well, its all Rupert’s fault even if there was Laura Linney and Julie Walters. When DL is confirmed doing better than DB, now it is because there is also Walters and Linney. It is you Dan fanatics who are pathetic. DB was pulled out of US theaters after only three weeks because it would have lost more and that is why nothing about it can even compare to DL even if both were considered big flops.

Equus is a play, not a movie so not good comparison, with Harry Potter naked. Tickets for the first few months sold out as a result of the hype. After some time however, your mighty equus with the naked boy was romping about to a half filled venue. Dont kid yourselves.

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You know, it would be lot easier to actually feel sorry for Rupert if his fans didn´t have that “Rupert-is-PERFECT-he-can´t-do-no-wrong” attitude

NONE of the trio is PERFECT

oh..and babycakes: as for Equus not being sold out every night. I´m guessing that DL played in total filled theaters alllllllll over the world. (eyeroll)

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well babycakes, it hasn’t stopped Equus from being brought to NYC! And seeing as how DL was the first project that was done once school was done for that actor, how odd that rupert hasn’t had any other projects since. HOw many years ago was that done?

don’t kid yourself either, it’s not just the actor choosing the job, they have to want the actor.

Also you are soo right about online voting being easy to manipulate, especially when one fanbase sucks up to the webmaster who then manipulates the vote by changing the rules midstream and deleting votes for other people. Hmm, i wonder who won that poll??? (hint: t’weren’t the two people who just won a gold otto)

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Same with DB. And it is Dan’s fans who have that attitude in the first place. Things are only getting even now so you complain :)

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If some fanbase did not withdraw, we would have known who would prevail. If Rupert did not win it, the Jonas Bros would have. Even at garnering second to Rupert, you would not accuse their fanbase of sucking up to the webmaster too now would you?

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Question, what attitude are you talking about? No we know Dan isn’t perfect. That doesn’t give anyone the right to bash him (or emma) the way they do because he gets more attention and lines. If certain jealous fans didn’t say anything rude about some actors, their fans wouldn’t be saying anything about Rupert, there’d be no need.

As for the poptart or whatever poll, you should know. the webmaster kept you guys apprised of everything he was doing and admitted his bias. I believe he mentioned later he should have been harder on uh, a certain fanbase. He did do a lot of work in erasing/deleting allll those jonas boys votes *nods * Did the other fanbases ever find out, i wonder? Good thing it wasn’t a legit award or anything.

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I never said that Dan didn’t deserve an award. Even though I believe Rupert is the best actor, Dan comes a close second. The only problem I have is with Emma winning awards when she shows next to no talent. Did you see her in her first scene in OOTP!? She was breathing like she just run a marathon! Her over-acting of every scene is not only tedious to watch but a complete joke when you look at the awards she has won.

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I am Australian and can I just say that Dan’s performance in December Boy’s was a complete joke. He spent 6 months learning an Australia accent and he couldn’t even pull it off! I think he should stick to British movies until he has more experience outside Harry Potter.

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Ok,i see this: 1.the rupert’s fans are a bit arrogants,for them Rupert is the best in awards,performance , looks and Dan and Emma NEVER deserve more. 2.why always you are in the comparasion “Dan-Rupert”?Dan has proved that he is becoming in a fine actor and Rupert has done only 1 film non-potter.Dan cleary wins. 3.if Rupert wants be in the same level of popularity and attention of Dan and Emma,he could have more things non-potter and be more funny.

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radcakesfan you are making things up. the webmaster of popstar deleted entries from all fanbases including rupert’s, jonas brothers, vanessa hudgens etc. even rupert’s fans complained of many of their entries getting deleted according to his whims! the jonas brothers’ fanbase knew about everything but the other fanbases did not really care much! all you are saying are just your theories and assumptions trying to put two and two together from what you ‘spy’ on rupert’s fansites. you should have gone to the jonas brother’s fansites too so you would have known and shut up now. you dont know anything, too bad your fanbase was out of the loop so you just pick up scraps of information and try to piece them together. pathetic.

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Silly innocent deluded 12 year old… i did read the boards…that’s how we know what was happening. That was a prime example of how not to run a poll/contest. (you’d probably would be fired ) This is also where the lie is that certain fans are as laid back and easygoing as their idol. Look back and compare it with say, the Empire sexy list. No one knew who would make the list and people complaining about who made it afterwards were simply told that those were the people who had the numbers. It’s not usual to be told you need x number of votes. There were lots of irregularities -rather eyeopening experience in the HP world lol!

Your new word of the day: impartiality.
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Why is everybody taking sides for a fight that doesn’t exist! If the trio support and celebrate each others achievements why shouldn’t we?

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babycakes, Equus was sold out every night, it was the only play that year that got the highest sales compare to the other plays, I went to see Dan two weeks before the show ended and I couldn’t get good sits on the front, the only availables were on the back which I got them, but every night was a sold out show…that was one of the reason why why Broadway wanted the play in NY.

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Lexie, that’s wiers, becasue the only good thing about DB was Dan’s performance, the critics were the ones that said perfectly, the only good thing about DB was Dan’s performance, he was the one who got rave reviews (no so much the movie) .. and WI never expected to have DB more than 3 weeks in the US theaters compare to what Road Village did with the movie internationally…3 weeks 50,000 for only 4 theaters it is not a bad number compare to the final tally amount DB got with less theaters than DL.

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babycakes: If you have doubts about Dan’s popularity and that he really doesn’t have both box office power and media appeal, then what does that make Rupert? Since he’s even a tad below Emma in both departments, you chouldn’t look down on Dan so much since your own boy is not a player in the big arena of showbusiness.

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I totally agree with Olivia!!

Why is everybody stil arguing about that?? You said your opinion and now give it a rest.

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i think emma watson is the best out of all of them because she is a mature person who cares more about her education then about acting. To me she is a great example and i look up to her so much. congradulations on your award for best female. You deserved it!!!!!!!!!!!

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“with only one film in 7 year is difficult that he gets more attention than Dan and Emma.” What’s Emma done? Ballet Shoes!? A made for tv movie? Are you being serious?

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