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HA.

We should just stop all this nonsense and have Peter Jackson (of Lord Of The Rings fame) direct it.

You know he’d put in an ending that is true to the book and fans. Return of the King is nearly 4 hours long, so you know DH will be just like it.

And don’t forget a kick ass fight scene… complete with orcs.

and for those of you die-hard fans with no sense of humor, this was a joke

Kelly, the director is officially not responsible for the screenplay except in cases where they have co-writing credits. The person who ultimately okays everything is the producer. Unlike the later directors, Columbus has producer credit for both his films.

The people whose opinions matter is the moviegoing public. Films with huge budgets like the HP series are aimed at the broadest possible audience. The filmmakers don’t make these films for people who who sit through the movies with the book and mark out everything they don’t like with highlighter pen. The producers aren’t interested in the internet chat room demographic.

Columbus and Yates seem to strive for edited audio books with pictures, whereas Cuaron and Newell set out to make a movie that works in its own right. I hope for DH we actually get a movie, not a TV drama with expensive cinematography and VFX.

Del Toro, by the way, is another director focused on the cinematic experience. There is no way he would opt to follow the book in a place where it couldn’t be made to work on screen, nor would any decent director. However, he’s a very uneven filmmaker, and even his best films are plagued with dull sequences. While I’m sure his adaptation would have moments of brilliance, DH needs a director who can find the essence of the story and who can really deliver on a grand climax. David Yates is absolutely not that director, nor is Columbus.

Oh my God – DON’T let HIM or Curan ANYWHERE NEAR THESE MOVIES!

PoA was the WORST of them all. He didn’t even focus on the story line at all! I guess he didn’t have any room to tell the story after filming the Whomping Willow, the stupid head in the Knight Bus, and the rest of the scenes that had little or nothing to do with the story. I remember he wanted to have “little people” playing the piano in the great hall until JK herself veto’d it.

They are brilliant driectors when filming their own stories, but please, for the love of God, keep them away from the HP franchise.

Why must some people get silly by wanting another egomaniac like Alfonso Cuaron to direct the last movie? Keep to a sensible director who will put the series first not his own ego.

Will or Wont: Then why is the original script for PoA so much better than the actual movie? You’re saying that on the set that day Cauron could not have gone “no do it this way” and thus changes were made? And Cauron hardly delivered a grand finale to PoA. It was boring, contrived and turned Hermione into a Mary Sue. Even Sirius seemed to be more impressed and interested in Hermione than his own god son. Also the scene at the end of the finale where they meet up with Ron in the hospital room? Hands down the most out of character scene in all five movies so far. Newell’s final battle with Voldemort was strong, but the movie would have been more successful ending with the scene in Pomfrey’s (which through book four was JKR’s favorite thing she’d written). Also the third task? Attacking hedges? A bit silly after the spiel about how “this maze changes you.” I’m sure they’re all traumatized for life after hedges attacked them. laughs

The people whose opinions matter is the moviegoing public.

I completely agree with that, but if you look at the international grosses for the movies they’re in favor of Yates and Columbus but quite in disfavor of Cauron.

1- Philospher’s Stone 2- Order of the Phoenix 3- Goblet of Fire 4- Chamber of Secrets 5- Prisoner of Azkaban

It seems they’re quite okay with Newell but PoA made almost one hundred million less than the fourth place movie- CoS. It was the only movie that didn’t break eight hundred million and the gap between CoS and it is almost as large as the gap between fourth place and first place. Grosses show that the moviegoing public appreciates the supposed “tv drama” approach quite a bit.

KELLY, you judge a movie on the amount of money it makes. Then you must think that transformers is the best movie in the world and michael bay the best director. Gof did better than POA, because people realised after the third movie was out on dvd that it wasn’t as stale as the columbus-films anymore.

THE QUALITY OF THE FILM DOESN’T DEPEND ON IT’S GROSING. It depends on what the critics say. And 9 out of 10 think POA was the best.

anybody have a link to the video, you cant access outside the US

i hope it is at least 20 years before any remakes-—of anykind -—are made and even then WB and JKR would have to approve them.:o)

Del Torro would be fine

MINDY: i must strongly disagree with you. Goblet was the worst film of them all. much much much to choppy. true to the book, yes, but it barely had half the stuff from the book in it. but what actually was in the movie was pretty acurate.

and i cant remember who posted about this, but most people are thinking of the movies as just adaptions from the books. its very important to think of the people who have not read the books, who see them just as movies. so i think:

as movies: 1-OotP, 2-PoA, 3-CoS, 4-SS, 5-GoF as adaptions from a book: 1-SS, 2-CoS, 3-OotP, 4-GoF, 5-PoA

because if you think of PoA in a movie sense, it reall was pretty okay, just as long as you dont compare it to the book. =]

Redbeard,

When a movie makes a lot of money at the box office, it means regular people liked it.

When a movie has critical acclaim, it means a few pompous, blowhards liked it.

Time and time again the critics prove that they are completely out of touch with the opinions of regular people.

For all those who think box office gross is an indication of quality filmmaking and that film critics are snobby, elitist, and out of touch, it is certainly incorrect to use popularity as any sort of gauge on its own. Consider that the most popular kids in school are not always the nicest, smartest, etc. Furthermore, box office gross is influenced by the date of release, the quality of the actual book (some of the books in the HP series are simply more appealing than others), and the number of theaters showing the film. Not to continually bash Transformers, which I admit I have not seen, but it got terrible reviews, yet still made a lot of money. The same is true of the number one movie in the US right now, National Treasure. Regarding critics, these individuals deserve our respect. Many of them have studied film, literature, and history at prestigious universities to understand the craft of filmmaking, so as to better judge the quality of films. If my doctor studied medicine at an Ivy league college, I wouldn’t think his recommendations were elitist but based on a strong knowledge base. Also, for the most part, many of us do not know a film critic personally so it hardly seems fair to call them names. Critics can love crowd pleasing films i.e. Finding Nemo, Ratatouille, and some of the other Harry Potter films. I’m not sure the same arguments would be made in defense of Columbus if his films got glowing reviews, but few people saw the movie, which by the way, would never happen because the HP books are so popular that it seems anything made related to it would be seen. For instance, if the Cuaron haters knew he directed DH, would they really not go to see the movie? Also, can those saying the POA or any other movie is the WORST movie, please say that it is the worst “in your opinion,” instead of proclaiming it as fact. Finally to end this horrendously long post which I apologize for, I must defend Hermione. I think some of you need to read POA again. Ron is left back in the hospital wing injured and Hermione is not only a smart witch (we can all agree that this is absolute canon, right?), but she is also the only one who has and knows how to use the time turner. Therefore, it makes sense that she would take charge in the final act. Emma’s beauty is not played up, as she is wearing clothing that is very modest and typical for any girl her age and was actually worn by the Patil twins in GOF (were they too pretty?). The book also has her slapping/punching Draco, which again I think we can all agree he deserved. It confuses me why some seem so threatened by Hermione being portrayed as she is in the books, as a courageous and intelligent young woman.

I liked david yates, he was the best in my opinion. It could of course could have been better, but I think he was the best, especially considered to the third movie. The third may be great to some people, but I think a lot of stuff were left out that were important, and it really didn’t capture harry potter as harry potter. it was too dark for the third year. my least favourite was the fourth though, it was just first task, second task, third task, and that was it. it jumped so much that you didn’t have time to enjoy the year, it was all tasks. The last movie will be like the last book, people will either love it or hate it, no matter who directs it. Please keep David Yates.

when’s DH being filmed? cause from what i understand Del Toro is going to start working on At the Mountain of Madness after finishing up hellboy2. he may be interested but i doubt he’s gonna put that project aside for it.

Thanks Gingerlibby, you say what I mean, only you say it much better, because English seems to be your native language and I think you are a very patient human being for explaining it that way.

Say what you will, but I still think the best movies of the bunch were SS and CoS. Chris Columbus stayed truest to the books (which is what HP fans want) and retained the heart and feeling of Jo’s writing. I really felt disconnected with the last 3 movies, PoA in particular. The feeling and emotion just was not there like it was in the first two movies. I say to whoever they get to direct, stop trying to make an artsy film to advance your own career and make the movie that Jo would make if she were directing. That is what all HP fans really want.

Erika,while I wholeheartedly respect your personal admiration of the first two movies, which are beautiful, in their own way, and true to the source material’s content, drama, and sense of humor, I would prefer as a HP fan myself, that you please not speak for me by saying that what you want is what “all HP fans want.” I am a fan of the books and the films and I want the Harry Potter movies to be well made, critically acclaimed, award worthy, and respectable pieces of film which are equally beloved by HP book fans as well as the general public. If this means having a certain form of cinematography or script, then so be it. In addtion, the first two films may be truer in content to the books, which we all should recognize are significantly shorter than subsequent installments, it is my opinion that POA and OOTP are truer to the spirit of the books’ increasingly somber and emotional tone. In fact, while I cannot speak for other viewers, I am certainly more emotionally affected by a POA scene like Lupin and Harry’s conversation on the bridge than the standing ovation to Hagrid at the end of COS. Lastly, since when did “artsy” become something bad?

This is all getting back to what I said in my post earlier- we all have way to different of opinions for one of us to be right. AND believe me they will never remake these movies, so please keep that silly dream to yourself, there may be some of us who absloutely HATE remakes! about 99% of them are never better than the original.

Thank you, Tony! I wholeheartedly agree (except that I find OOtP amazing. I didn’t like it so much on the first read: I suppose because I was holding my breath the whole time, waiting for something awful to happen, and that can get exhausting after 800 pages – was that your problem? Or you just don’t like it?)

If you ask me, as long as David Yates doesn’t do DH, then I’m fine. I am so angry at what he did with OOtP. I fully understand that the movies aren’t the books – PoA deviated as well – but it was still funny and rich and true to the emotions of the book. OOtP is such a rich book – the biggest of them all – filled with angst, drama, romance, terror, self-doubt… it’s really good.

Dan didn’t yell in any scenes. Harry goes berserk in some parts of OOtP (book); you can feel it. Yates could have at least had some scenes of Angry Harry, for crying out loud. It makes for great drama. Rupert was on screen for all of 2 seconds (and he’s pretty funny), and Emma hardly did anything. Thing is, I can’t blame the actors, because I’ve seen Rupert and Emma act more in Sorceror’s Stone. But Yates doesn’t seem to realize that there’s a difference between being tense and being dead.

Not that he was all bad – the effects and much of the cinematography, even some angles and reaction shots, was pretty amazing. And I honestly think that the actors did a good job. It’s just that their roles were so limited that they couldn’t do much more than nod or frown. And I hate that he took the thickest, richest book and made it so bare and skeletal. Yeah, he kept to the tone, but sucked almost all of the fun and humor and deep emotion in it. I’m really proud of Dan; I think he did a great job. But in order to capitalize on Dan’s drama skills, Rupert’s comedy, Emma’s passion…. they have Alan Rickman and the Dame Maggie Smith, for crying out loud! Don’t tell me they’re not capable of some heavy acting!

Grr. I just think David Yates should, in the words of my government teacher, go fly a kite and stay the hell away from DH.

Oh, and Gingerlibby, I understand what you’re saying about PoA and OOtP staying truer to the tone. I think that they stuck very well to the tone, but so did Chris Columbus in SS and CoS. You have to remember that the tone was much, much lighter in those two movies – not because necessarily of the themes, as we’re dealing with someone drinking unicorn blood (scared the SH out of me when reading SS) and bigotry, but with the Trio’s innocence and the much lighter setting. So obviously PoA will be more emotional, because the characters are more emotional. Chris Columbus shouldn’t be faulted for staying true to a sweet, happy, lighthearted moment – because that’s what the books were.

With that said, I would like to see how Chris Columbus would work DH. His other work has been fantastic; he maximizes the acting potential of his actors: Mrs. Doubtfire, Home Alone, Rent…

Do you remember in CoS, in Hagrid’s Hut after Malfoy called Hermione a Mudblood? Did Yates get Emma to shed a tear in OOtP when they were caught by Umbridge? No.

I think that Columbus would be able to bring out the grief and hopelessness of DH quite well, and I sincerely hope that he directs it. If not him, though, then anyone but Yates.

And I agree with you about Hermione ;) I just think that they really ought to make her hair bushier. Hermione is a confident and strong girl, but it’s not going to do well for HBP if Hermione doesn’t look like more of a bookworm. It’s part of the drama – Lavender’s a pretty little bubblehead, and Hermione is the bushy-headed spirited little bookworm who is pretty – but only if you look a little closer.

I hope Yates has Emma a lot more take-charge and fierce in this one (HBP) than she was in OOtP. And Rupert with all his funny little faces and voices, which will be great for Ron in the HBP scenes. And assuming that it isn’t Michael Gambon’s fault (because he was better under Cuaron in PoA), I hope that Yates has him more friendly and quirky for his scenes with Dan. I don’t really have any worries with Dan; Yates can’t shun him like he did Rupert and Emma, as he is the star.