Tom M

Everyone – just go see Pan’s Labyrinth! It’s amazing (but very depressing and gruesome!)

Posted by Tom M on January 03, 2008, 09:39 PM
Caracticus

I think Alfonzo did an AMAZING job with PoA. I also like GdT’s work, and would really be excited for either of them to do DH.

Posted by Caracticus on January 03, 2008, 09:42 PM
Paulina

i hope, Del toro directs the movie, and amazing and artistic work, that is art that is movie abouts, imagine with Del toro, that will be amazing!! The DH needs somebody that could tell story’s, and not get boring, he will be the perfect choice, please even Cuaron, but not Columbus, Not Newell ( goD!, his last film sucked also like GOF), Yates wanst bad but he is not the best.

Posted by Paulina on January 03, 2008, 09:49 PM
will orwont

Del Toro already turned down working on HBP (Yates wasn’t the first choice), and I doubt that David Heyman is going to be swayed by him pitching for the job through the press.

Everytime poor Alfonso Cuarón’s name comes up there is a flood of venom here, but out in the real world, everyone knows that Cuarón made an exceptional film and saved the series. It’s flawed but it summons the necessary cinematic magic. And Jo Rowling, by the way, is on record as saying that HP3 is closest to her vision. So I hope that everyone who disses PoA realizes that they have not only got the movies wrong, they have missed the essence of the books as well.

OoTP did well because it was coasting on the fumes of Newell’s success. There will be a big drop in the box office for HBP, just like there was for PoA after Columbus’ second film. Even if David Yates gets hired for DH, he’ll be swiftly replaced. TV directing, even with a $250M budget, still looks like T. The sad thing is that even though Dave Heyman might want Cuarón or Newell for DH, they are both too busy to do it now.

Posted by will orwont on January 03, 2008, 09:52 PM
Amy S

“Del Toro already turned down working on HBP (Yates wasn’t the first choice)” Wait, where did you hear that?!

POA was incredible, the best of the series, but certainly not perfect. As such I think some HP fans are more bothered by tiny inaccurate details and thus fail to see the beauty of a film that actually captures the essence of the Potterverse. Sad really!

Posted by Amy S on January 03, 2008, 10:00 PM
budb

Interesting thread to read, if only because it unscores how differently we look at the films….

my personal two cents re the Yates and Cuaron discussion, after watching each dvd repeatedly:

In PoA, subplots were ignored, or perhaps filmed and then deleted—in particular the story of the Marauder’s Map and Harry’s Patronus as others have noted. But, the bulk of the central story line was present in PoA. Would have been nice to have Quidditch and Sean Biggerstaff, but….

In OotP, on the other hand, considerable plot lines of importance simply do not appear at all: the locket in the drawing room of Grimmauld Place, no mention of Regulus Black at all, no Dobby (again), the fact that Petunia Dursley knows about demonters and “that awful boy”, no Mundungus, and so on. Still others are treated with passing indifference: that Phineas Nigellus has a portrait at Grimmauld Place was mentioned in a single, easily missed line in OotP. And—let’s be honest now—that bloody awful bashing to the Room of Requirement really did not make sense and creates unnecessary problems for both HBP and DH films! Add in comparatively minor changes to the story line (Harry threatens Dudley with his wand in front of Dudley’s friends, Cho as the ‘snitch’ who actually is innocent because she was given Veritaserum, the extremely short version of Snape’s Worst Memory with no Lily Evans in it )... and i am sorry, but i really detested the swirling newspapers substituting for actors and dialogue (the swriling Daily Prophets reminded me of the old Adam West Batman series on US television, my kid brother insisted on watching every episode, over and over, yeech!)

We can debate who is ultimately responsible—director, screenwriter, or editor (or some combination of the three)—for final decisions in film making, but I prefer faithfulness to the story line first and foremost when a novel is being transformed into a film. By the criteria of faithfulness to the storyline, then I would put Cuaron over Yates, easily. And I would put Columbus over Cuaron by that same criteria, tho he appears totally out of the running as director.

Just my two cents, obviously

I would add that in a Yates interview we discussed here on Leaky, about 4 to 6 weeks ago, Yates sounded as if he planned on being the director for DH.

Posted by budb on January 03, 2008, 10:03 PM
HPfreak

perosnally i did not like cuaron, POA just left out so much stuff. Im not saying i didnt like the third movie but it is definately my least favorite out of all of them. from what i have heard “pans labrynth” was really good and that it was very dark and magical, which makes me think he would be a very good choice for DH, seeing as that is pretty much what makes up DH.

i actually really like columbus for the first two movies… true i dont think there is anyway that he could or should direct DH but since the first two movies are not yet as dark as the others i thought he was perfect. he was able to keep the inocence of PS yet still keep it together, and I think that he added the perfect amount of darkness in CoS compared to PS… I understand why some people dont like him but this is just my opinion.

I agree with doublecore way at the begining of the comments… harry must go out with a bang! the movies will never take the place of the books but whoever ends up directing DH has to understand that we cant have the LAST movie be a flop… that would ruin it… best till last and we NEED DH to be the best it can be, so i just hope that who ever does direct the seventh one does a good job and doesnt hold back at all…

-HPfreak

Posted by HPfreak on January 03, 2008, 10:17 PM
doublecore

WOW budb,that was an amazing comment. You even brought up a few things i missed in POA and OOTP. Thanks i will go back and look> COOL< Makes me go back and read them again:)

Posted by doublecore on January 03, 2008, 10:17 PM
Rhiannon

Didn’t read all the posts, but it sounds like the usual complaining about things that are way out of our control. Being a book purist, of course the first two movies are fantastic, and I think Yates’s did a terrific job with OOP. There are some things that really annoy me about POA inculding failure to connect the Mauraders with the Map, but over time I have forgiven it. However, GOF is sometimes just difficult for me to watch. I don’t know del Toro’s work, but when I read the scene in Bathilda’s bedroom, I felt it was a real Tim Burton moment. Now that he is connected with the Potter cast through Sweeny Todd, who else would be better. But sadly I don’t get to vote.

Posted by Rhiannon on January 03, 2008, 10:18 PM
Lindsay

Nope…I want M. Night Shayamalan! Think about it…<

I am thinking about it, and you are on to something. Shayamalan’s movies are uneven because he is not as good a writer as he is a director. Give him a strong script and a great story, and he’ll take the movie over the rainbow.

Posted by Lindsay on January 03, 2008, 10:27 PM
meek

if Alfonso Cuaron can’t do DH then Del toro would be a fine choice. but i really wish it would be Alfonso but seeing that there are still people out there that hated POA, i don’t think this would happen which is very sad because POA still and remain the best HP movie yet. I could only wonder how DH would have been if Alfonso did it.

Posted by meek on January 03, 2008, 10:28 PM
Jennie

PLEASE. PLEASE DO.

Why doesn’t the blessed Peter Jackson continue on with The Hobbit then? Or why doesn’t somebody else do it? We need Del Toro so HP can finish with a bang.

Or Yates. I am perfectly fine with Yates.

Posted by Jennie on January 03, 2008, 10:40 PM
Beth D

Oh dear lord…PLEASE not M. Night Shyamalan. What a complete egomaniac!

Can you imagine the trailers for “M. Night Shyamalan’s Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows”?

GAG.

Posted by Beth D on January 03, 2008, 10:44 PM
Beth D

Actually – del toro can do the Hobbitt – if we can have the ‘blessed’ Peter Jackson. . I would LOVE it! We could have a proper DH movie…even if it had to be 3.5 hours…

Posted by Beth D on January 03, 2008, 10:47 PM
Michele

I am with a lot of the others in saying that POA is my lest favorite. I hate how dirty it all looks the school and its grounds look horrible in POA. I don’t think it was so artist or beautiful. I mean how many times do we have to watch the womping willow go after that stupid bird and those heads are just a waste of CGI money.

I would go with Yates not because he did the best job he could have done with OOTP (but he did not do a horrible job either) but because I think the 7th movie is too important to bring in a new director who may or may not stray from the story again. The 7th story need to flow and keeping Yates would keep the feel of the movies consistent with the two before.

I think one major problem with the 5 films when you watch them back to back is that each direct saw the story differently and it shows. I think it would be horrible to get another point of view for the last movie especially if it is from someone that may go after a more artsy aspect instead of the story.

Posted by Michele on January 03, 2008, 10:52 PM