Kerrie: I understand that sometimes a movie can ruin a book. And I am sorry for you. For me the first two movies were the ‘illustrations’ for the books. I think the other movies are ok too. I hadn’t expected them to be able to compare in greatness to the books. Movies are adaptions, after all. Then again, it’s hard to ban certain movie images from your mind, when you are re-reading the books. Maybe my memory for movies isn’t too great, because it doesn’t bother me so much most of the time.
Anyway if you dislike the movies this much, and you don’t want to run this risk again, I’m afraid, there is only one solution: don’t watch any of the HP movies anymore. Stick to the books. I am not saying this to spite you or anything. I mean this as a friendly advise, because it’s simply the only way. And maybe you can wait until someone whose opinion you trust, gives you the ’’all-clear’’ but seeing your views, I doubt that will happen. Good luck though. And happy re-re-re-re-reading the books (maybe it will help if you focus on JKR’s exact descriptions).
Kerrie, you might want to consider rewatching that video of DDL accepting the award. Your comprehension of that simple scene was so off, no wonder you have problems.
Dan got right kudos for My Boy Jack, Equus and especially the last HP. His Harry has always been more subdued as his character would be, and in the last movie, his anger was toned down because so many people hated CAPSLOCK Harry. This was unfortunate, as I would have loved to have seen that room-wrecking scene.
RADCAKESFAN: I obliged and watched the DDL clip again, and I don’t have a problem, you are very wrong i’m afriad, the comment he made about Dan Radcliffe is 100% sarcastic. Yes he was being serious when he said his children would take him more seriously because he was photographed with Daniel Radcliffe but he was also saying it in such a sarcastic tone that he was obviously implying that adults don’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously, only children take Daniel Radcliffe seriously. So maybe you should watch the clip again because you obviously didn’t hear the sarcasm in his voice. And yes everyone has said that Equss is brilliant and dan is brilliant in it, but i have never seen it so i don’t know that. As for OOTP, i’m not even going to respond to that comment because you already know how i feel about how disspointing that movie was. Except for the twins, i love that they got lots of screen time in OOTP (even though they were meant to anyway so i don’t know why i’m praising that haha) Hey there TARANA: Yes i think i may stick to the books for now, i’m not looking foward to HBP movie at all, but i still really want Deathly Hallows to be good ya know? its my fave book in the series and i’d hate to see it ruined by bad acting, bad script or bad directing. I really hope Alfonso comes back, he knew what he was doing to be accurate to the books don’t ya think?
My comment about the anger thing still stands, Kerrie. It’s an observation based on experience with young people. I wasn’t necessarily directing it at you, as I have no idea how old you are.
I still don’t agree with you on anything you’ve said about Dan, though. I find there are a handful of people who drone on on various boards about “he was their friend” as if it is still relevant and as if they’re the majority. They’re not. Most moviegoers do not waste their time on comment boards…. And no, I don’t agree with your comment about OOTP. You seem to pick one tiny scene and dwell on it. The twins, eh? Don’t get me wrong – I love the characters, and the boys do fine with what they have, but that’s it. As an example, watch the scene where their hands are being carved into during detention. It’s not convincing “pain,” imo. All that means is that they don’t have much range, but it’s hardly the end of the world. Not to dwell on a scene or anything :).
While I share your views on Cuaron, there were LOADS of people who didn’t think he got the books at all. I think he cut the dross, and captured the heart of the story. What do you think he’ll do with DH? He’ll have to cut it, even if they make two films out of it (remember he talked them out of a two-part GOF, so….). I don’t want a scene by scene run down – that would be the opposite of a filmic cinematic rendering, don’t you think? So, I’m sorry. Again, I think you’re contradicting yourself (you wanted everything left in, remember? I don’t think we can have both with Alfonso.)
Whatever, Kerrie. The books are fun, but not the greatest books in the history of English literature (imo) and the movies are fun, but they’re not the greatest pieces of film in existence.
“Daniel Radcliffe but he was also saying it in such a sarcastic tone that he was obviously implying that adults don’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously, only children take Daniel Radcliffe seriously”
I´m sorry Kerrie. But that just the dumbest thing I´ve ever read …What on earth makes you think that “only children takes Daniel Radcliffe seriously”...?
I´m 42 myself (hardly a child) and I take Dan VERY seriously. And I know for a fact that Radcakesfan is an adult too…Infact MANY of Dan fans are adults.
What you think of him as an actor is completly (spell????) up to you…But please DO NOT asume that “only children takes him seriously”
“And Daniel-Day Lewis slagged him when he got his award haha it was great, saying his kids wouldn’t take him seriously anymore after being in pictures with Daniel Radcliffe”
Go sharpen your listening skils my dear, cause you’re bias is showing. Day Lewis said his children might not take the Bafta best actor award seriously but since he just had a picture taken with Dan Rad, then his children might take him seriously now. It was all a joke. Part of the modest speech making of winners since time imemorial. That Lewis included Dan in his speech is a tribute to Dan’s superstar status. That he could be more important than that award is an indication of Radcliffe’s place in that BAFTA award. He was just a presenter but he was given the star treatment. After Equus, his reputation in the British acting community jumped up. It benefited HP too since it gave a previously children’s film, a touch of grown up atmosphere.
Agree with Sonja. Kerrie, I suppose it’s how you take it. First off, it’s a joke as kids typically do not take their parents seriously or respectfully . He was commenting on that his kids would look a heck of lot more favorably on him as he had proof of a bunch of pictures with our Dan. I took it as a nod to Dan’s popularity and influence – reflected in all those lists Dan is making it in. You will note he was sat in the front row- not a place for anybody but an A-liste, that’s where they seat big names. He was sat 2 rows in front of Daniel Day Lewis himself,and in front of Julie Christie, something they all must have noticed, including DDL himself. I was stunned that they had him up front, thrilled but stunned. And yes, i would say there are a lot of adults that take Dan seriously, including Dan Eldon’s mother who wants our Dan to portray him in the story of his life/death.
As for your opinion of Cuaron, yes he was sooo good he totally f'd up the marauders storyline and totally lost the "emotional potential" that POA had, making Hermione the Pink power ranger. Keep him away, i say.Chelsea, Radcakesfan and Sonja: I think you three need to watch the clip of again, yes i quoted DDL wrong the first time, sorry: his EXACT words where “my kids will really take me seriously now after seeing me in a photo with Daniel Radcliffe” But did you not hear the scarcasm in his voice? He was totally taking the piss! If you guys don’t relaise that, you obviously don’t understand scarcasm. me mum and my brother laughed when he said that because it was an obvious joke implying that he doesn’t himself ACTUALLY take Daniel Radcliffe seriously. It was obvious thats what he meant. I didn’t mean that all adults dont’ take Daniel Radcliffe seriously, thats just how i feel about it. But from DDL’’s speach i don’t think he himself taks Radcliffe seriously. He was obviously making a joke at Radcliffe’s expense. It was typical British humour. RADCAKESFAN: As for your comment on Alfonso and POA, i won’t even dignify that with a response, if you didn’t like POA then i pity you, it was by far the best HP movie and 200% better then any of the others. It was the only one true to the books and no Alfonso did not screw up the marauders storyline, he just left out Lupins speach about being a marauder, which was not important because Lupin had already told Harry he was good friends with his parents and he knew exactly how to work the map and knew all about it when he took it from Harry. No offence but sometimes you have to use your brain, you cant have every little thing handed to you on a plate in a movie based on a book, you have to acutally think and piece stuff together sometimes. Alfonso had already spent like 30 minutes of the film on the last couple of chapters of the book, he could not have possibly made the Shreiking Shack scene any longer, people would have gotten bored. He knew what he was doing, Alfonso is by far the best HP director and an artistic genious, Children of Men and Prisoner of Azkaban are two of the best films i have ever seen in my whole life and probably always will be.
“It was obvious thats what he meant”
Kerrie: It is also obvious that it is only obvious to you. The rest of the world who saw the BAFTA ceremony seem not to think so. If they did, you can bet that it would be all over the tabloids now. If they can write about a small thing like Dan not wanting to go to the beach., they surely can write that DDL slagged Dan Radcliffe. I mean, that would be HUGE news! Much more juicy than Britney’s latest binge. lol.
And if you can hear in your biased ears the sarcasm, then what are you implying? THat Lewis was slighted to be seated two rows behind Dan? That Dan was given the better star treatment than him? That Dan is very popular and is a bigger star than him? YOu obviously don’t gve DDL enough credit. He is one of the most respected actors and one of the best actors of our time. He wouldn’t be crass enough and insecure enough to diss a younger, more popular actor in front of the world! DDL and Dan Rad met earlier and even exchanged jokes. That meeting was what he was referring to. And that reference to Dan’s pic with him is nothing more than an attempt to be modest about his win. Of course Dan’s pic cannot be more important than the BAFTA Best actor award, But I see that as a joke not the sarcasm you desperately want it to be.
Chelsea you missunderstand me. I LOVE Daniel Day-Lewis, he’s such a good actor!! And I’m Irish so i love him even more then other countries would because he starred in one of Ireland’s biggest and most important films “My Left Foot” I think the fact that he made a joke about Daniel Radcliffe is hilarious! He has a good sense of humour. We will have to agree to dissagree on weather he was making fun of Radcliffe or not, i think he was and you think he wasn’t. But to be fair, if DDL was making fun of Radcliffe, (which i’m postitive he was) it would not be in the news/magazines anyway, people like DDL too much to give out about what he says. He can get away with telling a few jokes, even if they are making fun of someone. The press aren’t going to slag an icon like DDL just because he made a small remark about a fellow actor.
At the end of the day Chealsea, Radcakesfan and Sonja: i’ve listened to the speach a few times and DDL implied that his CHILDREN would take him seriously now, because maybe they’re big fans of Harry Potter of something but I also beleive the sarcastic tone implied that he meant there are a lot of people who don’t take Dan Radcliffe seriously, thats why the joke was funny. If everyone took Dan Radcliffe seriously then that joke would not have been funny, it would have been a pointless comment, He was comparing the fact that he’s a serious dramatic actor and Daniel Radcliffe is kinda just known for Harry Potter (don’t kill me for saying that i know Equus was billiant but kids aren’t allowed to see that) He was comparing the fact that Radcliffe’s fans are mostly kids and teens while he won the award for best actor. Thats why the joke was funny, if thats now what he meant what did he mean Chealsea? If thats not what he meant, then why was the whole audience laughing and why didn’t the camera show Dan Radcliffes face. Probably because Dan was NOT laughing.
I’m going have to cut in here and just say that Kerrie – you seem to have some distorted views. Not just about humour, but Daniel Day Lewis and Daniel Radcliffe. Firstly, the comments you have made to imply that Day Lewis would be the type of person to ridicule anyone, let alone a young actor, are akin to slander. Day Lewis is a very modest person, something that can be seen in the lifestyle and artistic choices he has made in his career (he moved to Italy for several years and became a cobbler after he won an Oscar!). So to say that he would take the piss is just some pathetic and biased viewpoint you have decided to take. I find it difficult to believe from your comments, and general views expressed, that you have the maturity levels of anyone above 13 years old.
If you want to focus on what Day Lewis said, then you will see that his comments weren’t ridiculing anybody, what he was saying was that in his children’s eyes (who are obviously very important to him), his winning a Bafta is completely irrelevant, but him meeting Daniel Radcliffe is the coolest thing ever. What this shows is that Daniel Day Lewis would rather make his children happy than win the awards, but that he is thankful anyway.
But perhaps you do not have the humility that Day Lewis obviously has. And as to it being your “irish homour” – I think that is very insulting to Irish people – and that coming from a British person that “gets sarcasm” I think Day Lewis wasn’t going for that angle.
As to POA – great film, I loved that and OOTP – and was quite glad they left out so much from Order as the book was bloated. If you don’t like the films, don’t watch them. Personally I’m glad that the films deviate from the books as they go along, they have become better and better and this keeps the series fresh.
I’m sure, Kerrie, that you will just contradict all I’ve said now with further childish comments.
Miriam: I think its rather rude to call my views distorted and my comments childish and you are being a hypocrit because by calling me childish you yourself are being childish. I was only getting a bit angry in reply to other comments from people totally ganging up on me. My original first comment was fun and harmless, just me giving my opinion. I honestly thought DDL was making a little fun of Daniel Radcliffe. Why is that a big deal? If he was making fun of Radcliffe then he was only doing it very very slightly so it wasn’t a big deal. I have explained that I love DDL and respect him as an actor and a person. I wasn’t saying “no he shouldn’t say that” i acutally thought the joke was funny and made me think “hey DDL has a funny sense of humour” Why is this offending so many people? I am praising DDL, not judging him. Yes I agree that DDL was speaking through his chidrens eyes saying that a Bafta means nothing to them and Harry Potter means a lot to them, but for the adults in the audience i think the joke meant more then that, meaning that Harry Potter’s only for children and also implying that Daniel Radcliffe is only known for Harry Potter ….yes you may see this a big stretch but thats the way I saw the joke. And i think the audience saw it that way too because they were all laughing. DDL saying that his kids think Harry Potter is cooler then a Bafta isn’t really that funny and would not have gotten that amount of laughter in the audience, but hey thats just my opinion and i think the reason they were laughing because it was a hidden dig at Harry Potter… I think its immature of you to get involved in someone elses disscussion by the way Miriam. I should not have justify my sense of humour to anyone and its totally unfair that lots of people have ganged up on me. I happen to like a British sense of humour. I’m Irish and watch a lot of British television because Irish tv is basically crap so as a result I think I read more into DDL joke then you guys did. I analysed it more, thats all. Just because i saw the joke differently doesn’t mean everyone can gang up on me. Whats the point of expressing my opinion when people judge you for it eh?
hmm, Kerrie, DDL is not hte nasty sort I don’t think. Anyway pics of him and Dan together show they really hit it off.
Also from the Telegraph today. So now we know why Dan had trouble with the autocue.
‘A few technical hitches gave the event a sense of amateurish charm – or a knees-up at a brewery. The sound system faltered at the Royal Opera House and presenters struggled to read the autocue because it was too far away.’
Em BEBE, thanks for giving me credit for backing off, i know i went a little overboard lol i’m just really passionate about stuff like that. I feel that my favorite books have been ruined (be it by acting, script writers or directors, who knows, its probably a mixture of all three) so thats why i was so annoyed. Anyway to adress something you said. I’m actually 21 years of age so your comment about young people laughing at Dan’s acting does not make sense, sorry. I laughed because Daniels um…”anger” in OOTP and POA was totally totally fake. most fans HATED the scene in POA where Dan was meant to be angry/crying and says “He was their friend!” because it was terrible acting and it wasn’t real anger or crying. I STILL see people complaining about Daniels acting on forums etc. because of that scene. And in my opinion the scene in OOTP where Harry’s angry at Ron was just as bad. It wasn’t real anger it was just Daniel acting kinda weird. Ok don’t kill me for saying that, thats just the way i saw it. You may see it as real anger but to be honest i don’t think it was. It was the kind of emotion the Harry Potter in the books shows anyway, it felt totally different and fake. ANNE to address your comment, yes the part of Harry Potter is complicated but as i said in a previous comment he can be broken down in to 2 or 3 personality treats: his bitter sarcastic humour, his stuborness and em…i can’t really think of anything else lol. Harry Potter shouldn’t be that difficult a role to play if you read the books so i don’t know why Daniel’s “Harry” is so different from the book Harry.