hmmm…interesting debate. Well I watched the BAFTA’s and I don’t think DDL was slagging Daniel Radcliffe but I can understand why people who hate Harry Potter or don’t think of Daniel Radcliffe as a serious actor would find a hidden meaning in the joke and find it funnier. I don’t like Daniel Radcliffe as an actor at all and I know i certainley laughed because the comment reminded me of how bad Daniel Radcliife’s acting is. I think most people are agreeing with Miriam and Radcakesfan becasue they are Daniel Radcliffe fans. From the prospective of someone who doesn’t like him and thinks he’s a bad actor the joke was pretty dam funny. For the recored. Kerrie took back what she said about DDL slagging Radcliffe, she admitted that DDL was not purposely slagging him but it was just the way she saw the joke. So whats all the fuss about?
Kerrie – just a friendly reminder: it was you who was trying to get me to agree to things earlier in the thread. We get your point. By the way, it’s “whether” not “weather” as in , “whether you agree or not.”
I do agree with you on this – we don’t all see the remark the same way. And I think that’s great. I responded to you way back in the thread because you were initially being nasty and your arguments in support of your views were weak, imo. I just want people to be better at supporting their opinions. And betters spellers.
Kerrie, you said
“Even if he was actually trying to slag Radcliffe it was such a small remark its not worth getting upset over “
For the last time, he was NOT trying to slag Radcliffe! Good lord, it’s like talking to a brick wall.
And yes, if he had slagged him the way you obviously think he did, go look up the response Chris Rock got when he DID slag Jude Law at the Oscars. It is STILL talked about and Chris Rock did feel the repercussions and probably still does. You can bet he will never be allowed to host or present for the Oscars again.
The fact that Dan, as HP has more influence on his kids than their own father (who is indeed very well respected in his field) IS funny. Emma, everybody thought it was very amusing, including danfans. I loved it. Only haters would take it in a negative way, so be it. Most people didn’t think DDL was trying to be rude at all, Emma but if you read Kerrie’s initial remarks, that is exactly what she was implying. Incidentally, I think Kerrie mentioned the camera didn’t show Dan’s reaction. That was because he was backstage having his photos taken along with the guy he presented his award to as he presented 16 minutes earlier, according to the Empire Bafta blog.
As for POA, I personally did enjoy it, except for the things they took out, most especially the Marauder background. It was what made the story truly tragic to me, and would have added to the emotional makeup of the whole series. I also saw it multiple times, as dan was very nice to look at lol and also knew the story so the minor thing about the map wasn’t important. It wasn’t just the fact that lupin knew how to use the map that was missing, it was the whole show of Harry and his dad that was missing. And however you feel about it, a lot of people still didn’t go back to see it when you look at the numbers and many were pissed off at what was taken out. Emma, why would I think Kerrie is right when I obviously think she’s wrong? Everybody is entitled to their view, vut it doesn’t make them right. I for example, disagree with the Ku Klux Klan and Nazis and the ultra religious.
Tanya, thanks for seeing my point of view, thats exactly what i meant. The comment reminded me of all the things i don’t like about Dan Radcliffe so thats why it was extra funny for me. BEBE, nice to hear from you again. I never had a problem with your comments, we had a polite disscussion and you didn’t contradict me rudely like other people on this forum and you gave me credit for backing off which was nice of you. I realise my first comment was very hyper and nasty but i was having a rant, i needed to get it all out. I don’t really remember trying to force my opinons on you though, yes we disscussed Dans acting a lot (anger etc…) but it was just a disscussion I was just expression my opinions and thoughts. I appologise if i tried to force you to agree with but i don’t beleive I did, everyone’s entitled to like whatever actor they want I do not judge people for liking Daniel Radcliffe and i hope people to not judge me for not liking him.
Radcakesfan: For the last time, I have admitted like a million times DDL was NOT slagging Daniel Radcliffe: Have you been even reading all my posts? I said ” IF ” he was trying. IF was a very important word in that sentence. You are the brick wall, you don’t listen at all i’m afraid. I have been a big enough person to admitt that i am wrong and took back my comment, i explained that it was the way non HP fans and non Radcliffe fans see the joke thats all, not DDL actually slagging Radcliffe. There is a huge difference!
I can totally see kerrie’s point of view. Radcakesfan I have no idea why you have such a big problem with this. She has said over and over agin that DDL was NOT slagging Radcliffe off, he was joking! And considering I totally dislike Radcliffe as an actor it was amusing. But obviously if your a diehard Radcliffe, which you appear to be, the joke would go totally over your head. You seem unwilling to even entertain the notion that Radcliffe has faults and that if others critise his acting they must be wrong or even hate him! I find that odd and unfortunately I have to tell you I know many, many people who niether think he’s a particually great actor or good looking at all.
Also using the Nazis or the Klu Klux clan as an example…please we’re talking about Daniel Radcliffe here. Get some perspective.
HAHAHA! Rebecca, will you marry me? hehe girl i could not have said it any better!! Thank you sooo much! Radcakesfan needs to accept that some people think Dan Radcliffe is a bad actor and that the comment DDL made was very funny for those people, even though DDL was not actually slagging him.
Cool, Kerrie. I come back here now and then to see how things are going. I have always liked the trio, but I have grown to like Dan the most. My observation of this fandom (well, one observation) is that people tend to be a little defensive of their favourite or overly critical of their least favourite. And things can get a little ugly (as I said earlier, I AVOID posts about Emma).
Still crossing my fingers for Cuaron. To whoever commented about how it made the least amount of money, there was a poster on here, quite a while back, who explained that the amount of money these types of films make is usually based on the one previous. So, many people thought COS was not so great. They were therefore less likely to go to POA, in spite of the rave reviews from critics. However, having heard that it was good (maybe they watched it on DVD), they returned in droves to GOF. This theory of course doesn’t help me understand why anyone went to Pirates of the Carribean 3, but hey, that’s just me :).
Anyway, thought I would share.
Excellent point BEBE, I totally agree,, just because POA made less money does not mean it was worse. As i said before POA was quite a different style to the rest of the films. it was more artistic and origional and creative so it may not have appealed to everyone, as not everyone is into that sort of thing as it may be to different for them compared to the first two movies. And as you said bebe, maybe people were not excited about POA because maybe they were dissapointed by COS and so they did not bother to go see POA in the cinema. Interesting point, i never actually knew that.
A few technical hitches gave the event a sense of amateurish charm – or a knees-up at a brewery. The sound system faltered at the Royal Opera House and presenters struggled to read the autocue because it was too far away.’ Posted by anne on February 12, 2008 @ 10:20 AM
Excuses. Dan has a record of screwing up like that in past award rites when he is a presenter. He’s done it too many times to blame it on technical difficulties. What about the other presenters, they didnt look or sound as bad and seem to pulled it off rather well. He’s just really bad at this thing.
Yea CASEYDOC, he screwed up last year when he presented some award and when he won an award. He just cannot speak to an audience without sounding nervous and screwing up. I feel sorry for the lad. As an actor he should have more confidence then that, I’ve seen him on talk shows and he’s very likeble, hes funny and chatty and doesn’t get embarrassed but at award shows, omg he’s just awfull. i don’t really understand why.
He’s 18. And my goodness, it wasn’t that big a deal. Anyway, supposedly others had trouble. By the way, Anne didn’t make that up. It came from the paper and was not referring to Radcliffe or anyone in particular. It was about the awards show.
Given the amount of stuff he does live, we could cut him some slack, no?
Hey bebe why the anger? Did you see the nice comment i left you before? we’re only disscussing. Thats the point Caseydoc is trying to make. I watched the whole BAFTA’s on sunday night and no-one and I mean no-one else seemed to have trouble reading the monitor. No-one else stuttered or sounded arkward. Honest to God I’m not just saying that, everyone else presenting did fine except Dan for some reason. I don’t know why and i don’t assume to know why, it could be for a number of reasons. But even if Dan had trouble reading the monitor or whatever it didn’t just happen this year it happened twice last year aswell. I think I am giving the guy a break he’s really clever and funny in talk show interviews but at award shows….someone just goes wrong for him. Maybe the poor guy can’t handle talking infront of an audience or maybe its just bad look i have no idea but either way, ever single awards show i’ve seen him in, he’s utterly nervous and arkward sounding which is totally strange because he’s fine with interviews.
Miriam: Yes i am afraid i am quite stubborn i always have been. sorry nothing i can do about that. But in my defence i had to repeat myself because people would not even try and listen to my point of view, they just dissmissed it saying i was wrong to see the joke like that. People interperate jokes in different ways. I hope you find my last comment a satisfactory explaination. I meant no offence to DDL or Radclife as an actor.