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Lexicon Update; Schedule Moved, RDR Request for JK Rowling's Notes Denied (Updated)

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Posted by: Melissa
February 06, 2008, 06:30 AM

An update containing JKR/WB’s response to RDR’s requests for information is at the second half of this post.

A few things of note today in the case by JKR/WB against RDR Books and those who wish to publish a print version of the Harry Potter Lexicon:

Firstly, the schedule has been moved again. RDR requested and received an extension to file their reply to the complaint. It was scheduled to be due on Feb. 5; it is now due Feb. 8. JKR/WB will reply by Feb. 27. There will be a hearing on the matter in New York on March 13.

Secondly, a judge has denied RDR’s request for copies of the notes that would comprise J.K. Rowling’s encyclopedia, but granted that JKR/WB submit statements J.K. Rowling has made in “publications” regarding her plans for her encyclopedia.

The letter, which you can download here in parts one, two, three and four (or view online here), is from David Hammer, lawyer for RDR, and says that the notes are requested in order to “test the merits” of J.K. Rowling’s claims that she is going to write an encyclopedia and that part of the reason for suppressing the HPL would be to suppress potential competition. RDR asked for “copies of any prepatory materials that Ms. Rowling has drafted or authorized to be drafted, including notes, outlines, drafts, marketing proposals, etc.”

JKR/WB indicated to RDR that they would resist the request, and so RDR asked the judge to convene a discovery conference, which occurred on Nov. 30. At the conference RDR argued, according to this letter, that the notes would determine “how far Ms. Rowling had progressed in this project…how similar, and thus how competitive, Ms. Rowling’s guide, and the Lexicon, were likely to be.” At the time, the letter says, the judge “expressly stated that defendant was entitled to anything that Ms. Rowling had so far composed or authorized.”

When RDR made the request for the papers, a lawyer for Ms. Rowling responded that:

“Ms. Rowling has made notes relating to each of the seven Harry Potter books which she will use in writing her long-planned Harry Potter companion guide. In addition, Scholastic’s Harry Potter continuity editor, Cheryl Klein, among others, has indexed the characters, places, creatures, spells and other things from the Harry Potter world which Ms. Rowling created. Ms. Rowling’s U.K. publisher, Bloomsbury, has similarly copiled four huge volumes of material constituting a comprehensive ‘bible’ of the Harry Potter world. Ms. Rowling believes the information from Scholastic and Bloomsbury to be more detailed and accurate than any other outside source (other than herself) regarding the Harry Potter series, including the Lexicon Website. Ms. Rowling would be free to draw on the materials from either of her two publishers should she choose to do so. The process of turning her existing notes into the definitive encyclolpedic Harry Potter companion guide is ongoing and is being continually augmented with the addition of further material from her creativemind on a regular basis.”

The letter states that RDR submitted a request for the materials in that response, and that JKR/WB provided nothing. (However, large portions of the Harry Potter ‘bible’ mentioned are freely available in the public court documents filed on January 16.)

The letter also states that JKR/WB responded that RDR’s request was “irrelevant and not calculated to lead to the discovery of admissible evidence as the status of Ms. Rowling’s planned companion guide is irrelevant to the determination of whether Defendant has infringed Plaintiff’s copyrights in the existing Harry Potter works at issue.”

RDR says, “If plaintiffs no longer assert that the Lexicon must be suppressed to protect Ms. Rowling’s right to publish a future companion guide, they should make a clear and explicit statement to that effect. Absent such a statement, Ms. Rowling’s notes are highly relevant to this case.”

The letter asks for: 1. The notes that JKR has made on the seven novels 2. Cheryl Klein’s full index 3. Bloomsbury’s ‘comprehensive bible’ 4. The ‘further material from Ms. Rowling’s creative mind.’

The letter also notes that JKR/WB cited confidentiality concerns and stated they are willing to abide by any ‘lawyers only’ restriction to the review of materials, except for one expert witness.

The note from the judge at the bottom of the letter requires JKR/WB to provide RDR with statements contained in publications listed by JKR/WB in a response to one of RDR’s claims, but denies the rest, saying that RDR has “not shown the Court that any further discovery about Ms. Rowling’s notes would be helpful to Defendant’s position.”

You can read the full breakdown of the complaint filed by JKR/WB here and here. We will provide more information as it becomes available.

UPDATE

We’ve now reviewed the JKR/WB response to RDR’s requests (which also includes the text of those requests), which was sent as a letter to Judge Patterson, the NY judge overseeing the case. This is a 21 page document that says:

1. JKR/WB object to what it sees as RDR’s “pattern of writing the Court whenever it wishes without first making any effort to meet and confer, lte alone giving sufficient advance notice of its intended communication with the Court.”

2. The lawyers on the JKR/WB side called the attempt to access the “top secret, personal, proprietary notes” as “extremely burdensome and unnecessary for the resolution of any issue in this case, particularly in light of Ms. Rowling’s interrogatory responses and the documents that Plaintiffs produced in support of theirm otion for preliminary injunctin.”

3. At the Nov. 30 hearing RDR said it required “expedited discovery” to determine the ‘palpability’ of JKR’s planned encyclopedia, and that the court said RDR could serve interrogatories (which are requests for information) as well as seek discovery on any manuscript. That manuscript would be subject of review inside the judge’s chambers (not handed over). (The Court, according to this letter, did not originally grant full right to JKR’s notes at the Nov. 30 meeting, just gave RDR the right to request it – and presumably prove why they are necessary.)

4. JKR/WB responded to those requests for info by saying there was no manuscript of outline but that JKR had notes, and her publishers had indexes. After this response RDR requested “All COMMUNICATIONS and DOCUMENTS REFERRING OR RELATING TO” [caps in document] JKR’s notes as well as any further material. JKR/WB’s side say they far exceed the scope of discovery that RDR indicated it would require on Nov. 30, and says that they thought the documents from Scholastic and Bloomsbury filed with the motion for injunction would suffice to fulfill RDR’s request.

5. The note calls JKR’s notes and publishers’ materials “completely irrelevant” to the question of whether the Lexicon book infringes copyright. “Obviously, needing to concede copying, RDR’s defense to such copying is based on fair use. It is in connection with RDR’s fair use defense that Plaintiffs have addressed the issue of potential market harm. ... Whether or not the books would be similar or identical and therefore directly competing is not the correct inquiry; it is rather whether or not Ms. Rowling would generally enter the market for companion books, which she already has done with her first two companion guides and has repeatedly stated she will continue to do with her planned encyclopedia to the world of Harry Potter.”

6. Even were the notes relevant, the letter says, JKR/WB is not saying that JKR’s notes are similar to the Lexicon book but that Scholastic and Bloomsbury’s guides that JKR may draw on are similar to the Lexicon book.

7. JKR’s “overwhelmingly sensitive” notes would serve “no legitimate purpose othre htan to harass Ms. Rowling. Rather, the burden of producing these notes far outweighs any benefit to RDR in obtaining them.”

The exhibit attached is an objection to RDR’s requests for then notes, saying that the requests:

-Seek information that is protected by attorney-client privilege, work-prouct doctrine, right to privacy and “any other applicable legal, statutory or constitutional privilege.” -Seek the disclosure of confidential, proprietary or trade secret informatoin -Seek information that RDR may otherwise obtain from public sources (ie, whehter JKR plans to write a companion book or not, not the content of her notes)

It also notes the objections don’t constitute acknowledgment of the relevance, importance or admissibility of any issue discussed.

The first request from RDR (No. 1) was for: outlines, proposals, manuscripts, marketing plans, lettres of intent or contracts that JKR has drafted, authorized to be draftd, or received from any of hre employees or agents concerning the encyclopedia. RDR asked that JKR/WB describe each document’s contents in detail, identify when it was composed and where it is presently located, and who holds it. JKR/WB responded that the request was vague and ambiguous, overbroad and unduly burdensome, because it does not seek a response toa question and is supopsed to be part of an expedited discovery process, which “generally only allows for very limited discovery demands.” It is apparently also very different than what was asked for on Nov. 30.

The second request from RDR (No. 2) was for JKR/WB to identify and describe all communications about the encyclopedia involving JKR or “any person that [she] has authorized to act on her behalf, and ay other person,” and to describe the content, idenfity when the communication took place, and identify the parties involved for each communication. JKR/WB’s response was the same as for No. 1, generally – claiming it is burdensome and overbroad, and not relevant, and such information subject to many restrictions, including lawyer-client privilege. It also notes that JKR has told reps from hre literary agency from as early as 2000, of her plans to write such an encyclopedia, and her agency has acted on her behalf to many other parties since 2001 – including pubilshers – though no contracts have been drawn. It also says she has made many public statements to that effect.

RDR, this exhibit reveals, also attached to its requests for information a press report from MTV News that says JK Rowling has not yet started her encyclopedia,and will take a break from writing before she does. RDR requested that JKR/WB state whether that is true, and describe any further public statements – as well as identify by name, address, phone number and affiliation the reporters who were present at that press conference, as well as a transcript of the press conference. JKR/WB responded with similar complaints to No. 1 and No. 2, and says that the quote is not inaccurate in that JKR had not yet, at the time of that conference, started to turn her notes into a manuscript, but she is “augmenting her existing notes.” She took a break after her tour, but “nevertheless penned some additional materials that are intended for inclusion in her Harry Potter companion guide.” The document then lists instances of 88 press reports of her statements on the encyclopedia ranging back to 2001, and mentions television interviews as well as Leaky’s PotterCast interview and several other web site postings that dealt with the possibility of her publishing an encyclopedia. This is the portion of RDR’s requests for info that the judge granted – that JKR/WB describe these statements, most or all of which are public record.

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239 Comments

Silvermoon

But, Nicole, from my understanding the ads are a recent thing (since Leaky will no longer be hosting the Lexicon, correct??), and also, as has been mentioned even in the court papers, JK/WB have no problem with ads being used on sites to cover your typical webhosting/bandwidth costs—such ads really aren’t ‘for profit’ as the book would be.

As for this ‘request’ from RDR books? I’ll admit, I pretty much literally had to bite my tongue when I read the part about them not just requesting her notes but requesting “The ‘further material from Ms. Rowling’s creative mind.” because I was ready to say some choice words that would’ve been inappropriate for my work place.

I’m grateful the judge denied that request and is limiting it solely to the interview transcripts (from my understanding, that’s all JK/WB has to provide).

RDR is just looking worse and worse in my eyes.

Posted by Silvermoon on February 05, 2008, 08:56 PM report to moderator
anne

“Wow, they’ve got some nerve…”

You took the words right out of my mouth.

These RDR people make me SO ANGRY!

Posted by anne on February 05, 2008, 09:03 PM report to moderator
Lindsay

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLY STUPID!!!

I mean, how can they think Jo is going to just give up all of her notes and anything she has ever compiled about HP?! She has every right to keep what is rightfully hers, and is legally COPYRIGHTED to her.

But, I can understand RDR’s angle too. A tone of other books were published abou7t HP, for example, the book The Complete Idiot’s Guide to The World of Harry Potter. BUT…...there is a disclaimer. Its even directly printed on the cover in about 11 point font that says:

“This book was not authorized, prepared, approved, licensed, or endorsed by J.K Rowling, Scolastic, Warner Bros., or any other individual or entity associated with the Harry Potter books or movies.”

So, abviously they never wanted Jo’s support or knowledge in order to publish the book. RDR is directly asking Jo for her entire arsonal of info she has compiled over the past ten or so years. Thats a lot to ask.

I say drop the case and use your own sources and imagination to write the book!

Posted by Lindsay on February 05, 2008, 09:09 PM report to moderator
Jason

Thank you Leaky for writing these summaries and for being so objective on the whole RDR matter, you are a top quality journalist Melissa.

Posted by Jason on February 05, 2008, 09:09 PM report to moderator
anne

Karen_W “Fishing for more of JK’s material, are they?” That’s exactly what I thought when I read it!

Posted by anne on February 05, 2008, 09:09 PM report to moderator
margoooo

“Wow, they’ve got some nerve…”

Definitely. RDR is way out of line.

Posted by margoooo on February 05, 2008, 09:19 PM report to moderator
RJ

In case you haven’t read correctly, RDR is asking for JKR’s notes as proof in their case.

If you think that they’ve asked for it so that they could use her material, a) actually read the article b) think about exactly how they would explain how they got that new material without incriminating themselves

Wow, there’s a load of conspiracy theorists here.

Posted by RJ on February 05, 2008, 10:33 PM report to moderator
k

THEY DID NOT. jo’s notes are her own, and no one else should be allowed access to them, they are all her brilliant ideas, not for someone else to see for ‘evidence’

Posted by k on February 05, 2008, 10:36 PM report to moderator
k

“test the merits”. Bah. Idiots.

Posted by k on February 05, 2008, 10:40 PM report to moderator
Daisy

this is getting ugly :(

Posted by Daisy on February 05, 2008, 10:47 PM report to moderator
roonwit

RDR is out of line, but the lawyers request isn’t stupid because if they had got a lucky judgment they could have forced JKR/WB to drop some of the case because Jo would be unlikely to allow her notes to be copied in this way, and it would take an enormous effort to even copy Jo’s notes which are unstructured, sometimes on random bits of paper and in several boxes. So from their point of view it was definitely worth a try.

Posted by roonwit on February 05, 2008, 10:57 PM report to moderator
Wingardium

Its ridiculous that they would request she hand over such materials. Unthinkable that her original work must be turned over, and lets face it, no doubt leaked so then RDR can claim “well the public know now so no harm in printing the Lexicon” Some court that is!

If this book from the Lexicon is ever published I would seriously support a boycott…..and a boycott of the website for that matter. In the beginning I was trying not to cast judgement but always supporting Jo’s rights, but the more and more I read, the more I’m disgusted that a FAN would do this to her. Its HER world, SHE created it, SHE has the rights so she has every justification in stopping the Lexicon book.

I haven’t touched the site in ages because of all this, kinda feels like I’m betraying Jo and the world she gave us if I did. And after reading this, the URL has been removed from my bookmarks for good. I’m disgusted by the whole thing.

Posted by Wingardium on February 05, 2008, 10:58 PM report to moderator
KB Prez

All this reminds me of the old adage – the wheels of justice move SLOWLY.

Harry may become a grandfather before this is decided.

Posted by KB Prez on February 05, 2008, 11:01 PM report to moderator
Malissa

It “s time for the fans to rise up and ban all that the Lexicon has to offer. I can’t believe a SO CALLED FAN of Harry Potter would do this. When the profit of this book is going to charity. SHAME ON YOU RDR. I will never buy anything from you. Sorry Leakey I know your friends with Lexicon, but its time.

Posted by Malissa on February 05, 2008, 11:11 PM report to moderator
Sandy

I don’t think that RDR should be asking for Jo’s notes. The world of Harry potter is Jo’s PRODUCT for the public’s consumption. We as a public, have a right to buy the product, but do not have the right to its recipe. Do we have the right to coka-cola’s secret recipe? No. No more than we have the right to Jo’s recipe for Potter, unless she sees fit to give it to us.

Posted by Sandy on February 05, 2008, 11:39 PM report to moderator
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