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yay….........first to comment…......!!! I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE POTTERCAST!!!!

“Friends” trivia??! OMG!!!!!!!!!! I’M SO EXCITED FOR THIS ONE!!!! next you should do “Lost” trivia!! :D (I love Friends, Lost, and of course HARRY POTTER!)

it was another great episode!!!! :) keep up the amazing job :)!

Lovin it! BUT I want to express that the reason we all love PC is the unscripted-ness of it. Scribby 5ers: IT IS PAINFULLY OBVIOUS YOU ARE READING OFF SCRIPTS! PLEASE STOP AND GO UNSCRIPTED! It is really annoying and I have decided to stop listening to Scribby5 because of it. Anyways, PC 4 LIFE!

In response to the discussion about Umbridge’s house.

I think we forget sometimes that the Slytherin House itself was not evil. Those in the house are defined by ambition, cunning, craftiness, quickness of mind, etc. I think it’s very easy for Slytherins to “go bad” because these attributes are bad qualities if exaggerated. In my opinion, that’s probably why so many of the “bad guys” come from the Slytherin house. I don’t think that Umbridge came from that house because she is not sly enough. Her motives, in my opinion, do not seem to be ambitious but rather law abiding. Her overall demeanor is straitbacked and rigid. She does not change herself or the rules she lives by in order to gain something, but rather stands strong by those in power, believing those in power to be right.

I agree with the assumption that Umbridge is a Ravenclaw; however, my first impression upon thinking about this matter was that she was a Hufflepuff gone bad. She has a certain sweetness about her; even though it’s false, it’s still there. She has pictures of cats and she loves the color pink. It was very easy for me to see her starting out in the Hufflepuff house as a young lady and through a series of circumstances (Voldemort’s reign and what not) morphing into something twisted.

Upon further reflection, I am more likely to agree with Frak. She is very much rule-oriented, even while following Voldemort. Note that she is placed in a manager’s position over other peolpe, ensuring that the rules are followed. She uses the eye to keep watch for rulebreaking as well. Ravenclaws are by-the-book, smart, intelligent, quickminded, apt, people who are concerned with correctness. I can understand Umbridge’s thinking that she was correct in following the rules, no matter who made them. If anything can be said of Umbridge, it’s that she is a good servant to her employer and to the “law”.

So were the Nazi only following rules.

Um, I officially love Frak.

I need a show with John AND Frak. I think by brain would explode from the awesomeness. By the way, good luck with all your school work and stuff John, I miss ya!!

Great show guys, really interesting discussion about Umbridge’s house, and as funny as ever! :)

I agree, Frak is awesome, and I think that the whole “Sorting Series” of Canon Conundrums will be awesome. However, I’m also definitely with Ian in that the Scribby people need to drop the script. I, too, skip their segment because of how awful it is.

As for Umbridge, she is so a Slytherin. I just ran her character through the best sorting site (http://www.personalitylab.org/tests/ccq_hogwarts.htm), and she came through as Slytherin dominant with a score of 97, second place as Gryffindor with a score of 80, third place with Ravenclaw at 44, and last place Hufflepuff with a score of 12.

Whats the link to the youtube video of the JKR web profile partys? I can’t find it anywhere! Keywords?

Ian, I couldn’t agree more. Scribby5 really, really, really needs to lose the scripts. It greatly detracts from what otherwise could be an excellent segment. However, in its current form, I just skip over that section and move on to the drums.

I agree with most of the above—and I thought I was alone on that one! I’m sorry to the Scribby girls, because I know that they certainly mean well and they have good discussions, but I too have to skip over them. Some people just aren’t meant for radio/podcasts . . . I appreciate their efforts, but they need people who are more listener-friendly.

omg, i’ve been arguing vehmently since well before DH that Umbridge wasn’t a slytherin. i’ve been saying she’s a hufflepuff due to her unrelenting loyalty to the ministry. i kinda backed down on my possition after DH but i still don’t think she’s a Slytherin. my main argument was that if that’s what she thinks qualifies as Slytherin cunning and being underhanded… well quite frankly we don’t want her.

She was an idiot! everyone could see right through her! no one fell for her sugar sweet persona like Lockheart could pull off, her attempt to get Harry to drink veritiserum was truely hufflepuff worthy. we never truely see her make a play for power or try to manipulate or pull strings, she wants to be working for those in power at the ministry and she has her own agenda against non pure bloods but the fact that she wasn’t a death eater i think says alot about her bid for power… which is more to be a follower in the winning camp rather then be someone who actually whields any.

to me, it really does just seem like Slytherin prejudice comming through. i don’t see her as ambitious, i see her as having a passion for her beliefs. i don’t see her as power hungry, i see her as siding with those presently in power. i don’t see her as cunning, i think even Draco could teach her a thing or two about subterfuge.

anyways, all in all, what ever house she’s in… it ain’t Slytherin

Umbridge’s definite desire to manipulate and have her way, not to mention her obvious push for all things pure puts her right with the Slytherin ways. She is a Slytherin, no doubt in my mind.

who did she manipulate? sending out flyers on the evils of half breeds isn’t manipulation, it’s flyering… like you do when protesting house elf enslavement coughhufflepuffcough

and last i checked, just because slytherin doesn’t accept muggleborns, i don’t recall hating them being on the check list the hat sings about.

I think that her manipulating Minister Fudge was manipulation enough. She got him to do what he wanted for her. That among other things should be taken into account that, though completely and utterly malicious, she was quite, quite cunning in how she went about things. She forced/manipulated the students into believing what Harry and Dumbledore had said was a lie even after both had gone through great efforts do prove otherwise. Of course, she wasn’t alone in this, but it just adds to her list. The hat says of Slytherins, “Those cunning folk use any means, / To achieve their ends.” She fared well in that regard, did she not?

She uses rules to enforce her will on others. that’s certainly not ‘good’ and I agree with TML’s post that her worked out well for her. You could tell she did enjoy punishing the students for any infractions. while that alone isn’t ‘evil’ it’s the enjoyment part and the maliciousness on that part that is. As a long time D&D player, I’d set her up as Lawful Evil.

So, now should that set her in Slytherin? Maybe not that alone, but if you notice JKR always mentions people that ARE in that house as sorta slimy creatures of the earth, and she’s clearly described as ‘Toady’.

“JKR always mentions people that ARE in that house as sorta slimy creatures of the earth, and she’s clearly described as ‘Toady’.”

Excellent point, Quickpost. That’s definitive. She’s Slytherin. =-D

I disagree with the opinion that all the bad guys are Slytherins, although I have to admit that JKR created this prejudice herself, because there are NO Slytherins in the books who are entirely good, just like, say, Harry, Ron and Hermione. There are persons like Slughorn and Snape, who can be considered good judging by their actions, but cannot be called nice people. And all other Slytherins are just disgusting, both in their behaviour and in their actions. That is why people tend to think that every evil character in the book must have been a Slytherin :(((

I personally think that Umbridge was a Hufflepuff, for the reasons that Siyrean stated so nicely. She is really loyal to the policy of the Ministry, whatever it is. And loyalty can be a bad quality if it is loyalty to wrong principles… It is naive to think that all Hufflepuffs are good. This is just not true to life, and JKR’s books are very true to life psychologically. So, if Ms. Rowling confirms that Umbrige was a Slytherin, I’d be REALLY disappointed. All bad guys cannot be Slytherins…

I am excited to listen to this. I am really behind on podcasts though – I’m still on “Are YOU Smarter Than John Noe?” Stupid school – taking away my weekly dose of PotterCast – They want to kill my back with all the school books they give me and use up my time. Biznatches.