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New J.K. Rowling Interview: Confirms Working on "Scottish Book," Reflects on Dumbledore, Homophobia, Fundamentalism, Future Writing Projects and More

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Posted by: Sue
March 08, 2008, 10:11 PM

J.K. Rowling has given a new interview with the Edinburgh "Student" newspaper, where the Harry Potter author gives her thoughts on future writing projects, the reaction to the news on Dumbledore's sexuality, religious fundamentalists, and much more. In this lengthy interview, Jo confirms she is indeed compiling information on the "Scottish book," or the encyclopedia involving the world of Harry Potter as she says "...I am working on it in fact. I just don't want to have to work to a deadline, but I am slowly piecing it together." The article mentions that the children's book that Jo is currently working on as well is still not finished and one that is for adults "may never see the light of day at all." Jo declined to elaborate further on these books noting "The minute I say anything, immediately my life becomes more complicated." She does go on to say that she "aways wanted to write a novel about a stand-up comedian. That is not what I am writing though, so if something comes out next week, that's not me, I'm not doing it! But for ages, I've had a real thing about it."

In a wide ranging conversation, Jo gives her thoughts on such things as dealing with depression and the use of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy ("I would recommend it highly"), fame and recognition by her readers ("people coming up to me in Starbucks are always charming, Always") and whether she reads her own books ("The only one I've gone back and re-read since publication is the seventh book which is my favorite.") Jo Rowling also discusses at length two subjects which have generated much conversation among her fans: the repeated attempts of Laura Mallory to have the Harry Potter books banned in Georgia, and the large reaction to the news last October that Jo always felt her character of Professor Dumbledore was a gay man.

Regarding the Harry Potter book banning issue Jo says quote:

"I can cope with a bad review. No one loves a bad review but a useful review is one that teaches you something. But to be honest the Christian Fundamentalist thing was bad. I would have been quite happy to sit there and debate with one of the critics who were taking on Harry Potter from a moral perspective. In a sense we have traded arguments through the media. I've tried to be rational about it. There's a woman in North Carolina or Alabama who's been trying to get the books banned-she's a mother of four and never read them. And then- I'm not lying, I'm not even making fun, this is the truth of what she said-quite recently she was asked [why] and she said 'Well I prayed whether or not I should read them, and God told me no.' Rowling pauses to reflect on the weight of that statement, and her expression one of utter disbelief.

"You see, that is where I absolutely part company with people on that side of the fence, because that is fundamentalism. Fundamentalism is, 'I will not open my mind to look on your side of the argument at all. I won't read it, I won't look at it, I'm too frightened.' That's what's dangerous about it, whether it be politically extreme, religiously extreme...In fact, fundamentalists across all the major religions, if you put them in a room, they'd have bags in common!" she laughs loudly before sobering. "They hate all the same things, it's such an ironic thing."

On the matter of Dumbledore, Jo candidly states the following:

"I had always seen Dumbledore as gay, but in a sense that's not a big deal. The book wasn't about Dumbledore being gay. It was just that from the outset obviously I knew he had this big, hidden secret, and that he flirted with the idea of exactly what Voldemort goes on to do, he flirted with the idea of racial domination, that he was going to subjugate the Muggles. So that was Dumbledore's big secret.

Why did did he flirt with that?" she asks. "He's an innately good man, what would make him do that. I didnt even think it through that way, it just seemed to come to me, I thought 'I know why he did it, he fell in love.' And whether they physically consummated this infatuation or not is not the issue. The issue is love. It's not about sex. So that's what I knew about Dumbledore. And it's relevant only in so much as he fell in love and was made an utter fool of by love. He lost his moral compass completely when he fell in love and I think subsequently became very mistrusting of his own judgment in those matters so became quite asexual. He led a celibate and bookish life."

Clearly some people didn't see it that way. How does she react to those who disagree with a homosexual character in a children's novel? "So what?" she retorts immediately "It is a very interesting question because I think homophobia is a fear of people loving, more than it is of the sexual act. There seems to be an innate distaste for the love involved, which I find absolutely extraordinary. There were people who thought, well why haven't we seen Dumbledore's angst about being gay?" Rowling is clearly amused by this and rightly so. "Where was that going to come in? And then the other thing was-and I had letters saying this-that, as a gay man, he would never be safe to teach in a school."

An air of incredulity descends on the room as if Rowling herself still can not believe this statement. She continues: "He's a very old single man. You have to ask: why is it so interesting? People have to examine their own attitudes. It's a shade of character. Is it the most important thing about him? No, it's Dumbledore for God's sake. There are 20 things that are relavant to the story before his sexuality." Bottom line then: he isn't a gay character; he's a character that just happens to be gay. Rowling concurs wholeheartedly.

You can see scans of this long new interview here in our galleries. Many thanks to Catherine for sending this in! UPDATE The author Adeel Amini let us know he has the article now available on his website in a very clear pdf format- here. Thanks Adeel!

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170 Comments

Ella

I don’t understand where you think I’m misquoting you.

In your post – the last on page six – you say:

“I didn’t say I never came across criticism. I said I didn’t recall any SIGNIFICANT criticism.”

In my post halfway down this page I quoted you as saying:

“I didn’t say I never came across criticism. I said I didn’t recall any SIGNIFICANT criticism.”

I cut and pasted it to make the reply.

Posted by Ella on March 11, 2008, 11:41 PM report to moderator
Ella

How and ever, it’s not worth getting het up over. Suffice to say, as far as I’m concerned I was in perfectly good faith, but apologise for letting my annoyance heat my responses.

There’re times and places for anger and this isn’t it. So I sincerely wish you a good week.

Posted by Ella on March 12, 2008, 12:05 AM report to moderator
Susan McGee

Bellasnape, Thanks for clarifying the fact that you are 18. Frankly, it provides some excuse for your comments. What if I were to say that it’s repulsive and disgusting to think of what one man and one woman do together in bed? I hear that your are confused. Why don’t you go to pflag.org and read their site. Or get a good modern book on adult sexuality…I recommend Our Bodies Ourselves. Susan

Posted by Susan McGee on March 12, 2008, 03:50 AM report to moderator
Qwill

Wouldn’t it be nice if we walked away from these conversations with a little more tolerance and respect for each other?

Posted by Qwill on March 12, 2008, 04:00 AM report to moderator
Questioner

Wouldn´t it be nice NOT to delete messages the mods cannot stand? Wouldn´t it be nice to reduce the star cult? Wouldn´t it be nice to question Mrs Rowling´s ideas of what she calls moral and tolerance?

Posted by Questioner on March 12, 2008, 09:45 AM report to moderator
BellaSnape

@ Susan then you would have a problem with the majorety of couples in the world- Im not neive- I probably cant spell, very good at the moment but I do know alot about sexuality. I am studying to be something in the medical feild and to do that my requirements were to take pyschology and sociology and we dicussed both asexuals, bisexuals, heterosexuals and homosexuals- in that class, along with fundamentalism and other aspects of society. I am not predjudice against homosexuals , I have already stated that I dont know where I stand because I have been taught since I was old enough to understand my religion that it is not ok, its part of being a Roman Catholic you dont accept that along with abortion, and war. But I can persuade you and you cant persuade me because this is religion, and that and politics are two things that should never be publicly discussed.

Posted by BellaSnape on March 12, 2008, 02:26 PM report to moderator
BellaSnape

meant to say I cant persuade you, sorry I type fast.

Posted by BellaSnape on March 12, 2008, 02:28 PM report to moderator
Carl

I have just spent a considerable amount of time reading these posts and while I found some of it laughable I think the big point that most of you seem to miss is a very simple point THIS IS A WORK OF FICTION. These books are a fantastic work of fiction meant to take the reader on a journey in there minds with written words. JKR did a fantastic job with all of the books. And personally have really enjoyed reading them all. These books were never intended to be an outlet for homosexual or anti homosexual debate. if you wish to spend time on that issue then you have totally missed the boat. IT’S a BOOK. as for the possibility that she might continue the world of HP in a latter book that would be great and I would read it for what it is. an enjoyable work of fiction.

Posted by Carl on March 12, 2008, 03:03 PM report to moderator
Rain

Carl, if you sincerely believe that the works of fiction which we as a society produce and imbibe are completely divorced from the social and cultural climate in which we live, then I think you do all literature a severe injustice.

Debating the meanings of our popular culture is worthy and worthwhile. Mindless consumption without reflection makes for a society of zombies.

Posted by Rain on March 12, 2008, 03:36 PM report to moderator
BellaSnape

Thats just what half of us are saying Carl, she made this a more ” today and futuristic” issue by saying he is gay, and Rain is right all seven books have societal background in them. Voldemort= Adolf Hitler, Death Eaters= KKK, Fluffy= Cerebrus,......... and so on. And the themes are very real too.

Posted by BellaSnape on March 12, 2008, 05:49 PM report to moderator
A Gerrman Voice

BellaSnape

Voldemort is NO Hitler. The comparison is simply inadequate.

I hate such stupid simplifications. And those stupid conclusions are Rowling´s mistake.

Greetings from a German whose grandpa suffered under the Nazi regime.

Posted by A Gerrman Voice on March 12, 2008, 06:33 PM report to moderator
eman

In response to Macao, “It is the first time Jo admits Gellert Grindelwald was gay?”, she didn’t ever say if Dumbledore’s love was reciprocated. Dumbledore may have loved without ever having admitted it to Grindelwald.

Posted by eman on March 12, 2008, 11:41 PM report to moderator
BellaSnape

@ German Voice, well then I would think you would understand the comparison, if not oh well your loss but dont slam me for something that I believe. Alot of people see the similarety , have an imagination – its called using analogies. I will not respond again , I dont argue with ignorant people.

Posted by BellaSnape on March 12, 2008, 11:48 PM report to moderator
BellaSnape

sorry double post.

Posted by BellaSnape on March 12, 2008, 11:50 PM report to moderator
Qwill

Questioner, Who is deleting messages? I don’t know what a “mod” is. Is that a Brittish term?.

There are so many other parts to Jo’s interview. She seems to have dealt with depression in her life. That is something I can completely identify with. Somehow that makes her just a bit less star and a bit more like a sister.

Yet the discussion revolves around just one part of the interview. I understand that it is an important subject. I am fascinated by the opinions shared.

But what is the ultamate goal of the conversation, to persuade, let off steam, or unleash rage? By all means make your own choices. I was merely hinting at a preference of mine.

Posted by Qwill on March 13, 2008, 02:44 AM report to moderator
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