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New J.K. Rowling Interview: Confirms Working on "Scottish Book," Reflects on Dumbledore, Homophobia, Fundamentalism, Future Writing Projects and More

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Posted by: Sue
March 08, 2008, 10:11 PM

J.K. Rowling has given a new interview with the Edinburgh "Student" newspaper, where the Harry Potter author gives her thoughts on future writing projects, the reaction to the news on Dumbledore's sexuality, religious fundamentalists, and much more. In this lengthy interview, Jo confirms she is indeed compiling information on the "Scottish book," or the encyclopedia involving the world of Harry Potter as she says "...I am working on it in fact. I just don't want to have to work to a deadline, but I am slowly piecing it together." The article mentions that the children's book that Jo is currently working on as well is still not finished and one that is for adults "may never see the light of day at all." Jo declined to elaborate further on these books noting "The minute I say anything, immediately my life becomes more complicated." She does go on to say that she "aways wanted to write a novel about a stand-up comedian. That is not what I am writing though, so if something comes out next week, that's not me, I'm not doing it! But for ages, I've had a real thing about it."

In a wide ranging conversation, Jo gives her thoughts on such things as dealing with depression and the use of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy ("I would recommend it highly"), fame and recognition by her readers ("people coming up to me in Starbucks are always charming, Always") and whether she reads her own books ("The only one I've gone back and re-read since publication is the seventh book which is my favorite.") Jo Rowling also discusses at length two subjects which have generated much conversation among her fans: the repeated attempts of Laura Mallory to have the Harry Potter books banned in Georgia, and the large reaction to the news last October that Jo always felt her character of Professor Dumbledore was a gay man.

Regarding the Harry Potter book banning issue Jo says quote:

"I can cope with a bad review. No one loves a bad review but a useful review is one that teaches you something. But to be honest the Christian Fundamentalist thing was bad. I would have been quite happy to sit there and debate with one of the critics who were taking on Harry Potter from a moral perspective. In a sense we have traded arguments through the media. I've tried to be rational about it. There's a woman in North Carolina or Alabama who's been trying to get the books banned-she's a mother of four and never read them. And then- I'm not lying, I'm not even making fun, this is the truth of what she said-quite recently she was asked [why] and she said 'Well I prayed whether or not I should read them, and God told me no.' Rowling pauses to reflect on the weight of that statement, and her expression one of utter disbelief.

"You see, that is where I absolutely part company with people on that side of the fence, because that is fundamentalism. Fundamentalism is, 'I will not open my mind to look on your side of the argument at all. I won't read it, I won't look at it, I'm too frightened.' That's what's dangerous about it, whether it be politically extreme, religiously extreme...In fact, fundamentalists across all the major religions, if you put them in a room, they'd have bags in common!" she laughs loudly before sobering. "They hate all the same things, it's such an ironic thing."

On the matter of Dumbledore, Jo candidly states the following:

"I had always seen Dumbledore as gay, but in a sense that's not a big deal. The book wasn't about Dumbledore being gay. It was just that from the outset obviously I knew he had this big, hidden secret, and that he flirted with the idea of exactly what Voldemort goes on to do, he flirted with the idea of racial domination, that he was going to subjugate the Muggles. So that was Dumbledore's big secret.

Why did did he flirt with that?" she asks. "He's an innately good man, what would make him do that. I didnt even think it through that way, it just seemed to come to me, I thought 'I know why he did it, he fell in love.' And whether they physically consummated this infatuation or not is not the issue. The issue is love. It's not about sex. So that's what I knew about Dumbledore. And it's relevant only in so much as he fell in love and was made an utter fool of by love. He lost his moral compass completely when he fell in love and I think subsequently became very mistrusting of his own judgment in those matters so became quite asexual. He led a celibate and bookish life."

Clearly some people didn't see it that way. How does she react to those who disagree with a homosexual character in a children's novel? "So what?" she retorts immediately "It is a very interesting question because I think homophobia is a fear of people loving, more than it is of the sexual act. There seems to be an innate distaste for the love involved, which I find absolutely extraordinary. There were people who thought, well why haven't we seen Dumbledore's angst about being gay?" Rowling is clearly amused by this and rightly so. "Where was that going to come in? And then the other thing was-and I had letters saying this-that, as a gay man, he would never be safe to teach in a school."

An air of incredulity descends on the room as if Rowling herself still can not believe this statement. She continues: "He's a very old single man. You have to ask: why is it so interesting? People have to examine their own attitudes. It's a shade of character. Is it the most important thing about him? No, it's Dumbledore for God's sake. There are 20 things that are relavant to the story before his sexuality." Bottom line then: he isn't a gay character; he's a character that just happens to be gay. Rowling concurs wholeheartedly.

You can see scans of this long new interview here in our galleries. Many thanks to Catherine for sending this in! UPDATE The author Adeel Amini let us know he has the article now available on his website in a very clear pdf format- here. Thanks Adeel!

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170 Comments

jenny

The whole article was a really good read. I agree with her on many of the topics she brought up, and also laughed over the “God told me no” bit. That’s just… madness.

Posted by jenny on March 09, 2008, 01:22 AM report to moderator
rococoed

I admire the intelligent and thoughtful attitude with which J.K. Rowling approaches everything; the wisdom she exercises is unparalleled. I completely agree with what she said regarding Albus Dumbledore’s sexuality. The fact that the news was sensationalized by the traditional media as much as it was proves how much, we, as an overall society, have yet to progress.

Posted by rococoed on March 09, 2008, 01:31 AM report to moderator
zoltan42

“Whether Dumbeldore is gay or not doesn’t matter. So why did she bring it up, my opinion is to get more pubilcity for herself. “

One should at least try attempting finding out the facts before making statements such as this. SHE didn’t bring it up. She was asked a direct question regarding who Dumbledore loved, and she gave a direct answer.

Posted by zoltan42 on March 09, 2008, 01:32 AM report to moderator
LMB3

Corey, to tie Dumbledore to Grindelwald the way JKR did, either Dumbledore had to be gay or Grindelwald had to be female. So, the question is, could JKR have written the story with Grindelwald being female and have the story work out the same way? (At least, to me, that’s the question.)

I think the problem would have been that if Grindelwald were female, Rita Skeeter would, to be believable, have had to grab onto a relationship that was more than friendship between Dumbledore and a female Grindelwald. I think then Rita Skeeter’s book would then have been more about Dumbledore having been in love with the dark witch he defeated, than that he may have believed in the same things as she did. They could have had all the same beliefs and events occur with a female Grindelwald, but Rita’s book would have been less about Dumbledore’s belief than their relationship. It was his beliefs, not his relationship that was important to Harry learning what he needed to. A female Grindelwald it would have got in the way of that, or been a little unbelievable if Rita ignored it.

Just my opinion.

I too would have liked to see more interaction between Harry and Ginny than just snogging, but I think she really couldn’t, as it would start to get too deep for a children’s book.

Wouldn’t it be cool if JKR rewrote all the books aimed at adults?

Posted by LMB3 on March 09, 2008, 01:34 AM report to moderator
Tara

No adult book? I would be crushed!!

Posted by Tara on March 09, 2008, 01:41 AM report to moderator
mollywobble

Carlye, she just explained why she brought it. First of all, she was asked if Dumbledore ever loved anyone, and JKR answered it truthfully. In this interview she explains that the reason Dumbledore “flirted” with racial domination is because he fell in love with someone who had those beliefs. It doesn’t matter that he loved another man. What matters is who that person was, what they believed in, and how Dumbledore reacted to their beliefs/actions.

Posted by mollywobble on March 09, 2008, 01:49 AM report to moderator
Ruth

Morga, I couldn’t read it well either, so I cleaned it up. I don’t know if I can post if somewhere, but if anyone wants it, I am willing to email it to them.

Posted by Ruth on March 09, 2008, 01:54 AM report to moderator
Rue

Anyone know if there’s a typed transcript I can read somewhere? My poor eyes aren’t making much sense of the scans.

Posted by Rue on March 09, 2008, 03:33 AM report to moderator
Katie M

Oh, every time I read one of her interviews, I am so proud to be a part of the potter world at all! I think the thing that bothers me the most is those fundamentalists – it’s a work of FICTION, and the author’s mind should not be open to anyone’s ridiculous criticism. There are so many friends my age (late teens) who say, “Oh, I can’t read Harry Potter. My mom says no.” Ugh.

Oh well! Always excited for the amazing Scottish book!

Posted by Katie M on March 09, 2008, 03:33 AM report to moderator
Amy S

Just finished reading the whole article. Jo is as lovely and brilliant as always though this interviewer sounds like a jerk! Posing as a fan to get an interview…? Oy.

Posted by Amy S on March 09, 2008, 03:55 AM report to moderator
Flittwick

I am glad to see that Jo has “spoken out”, Fundamentalists and Phobics alike must have a wierd idea of people “as a whole” ( is it indoctrinated into the world at large?). As a person who is seriously religious, I find the members of such to have the strangest Ideas), I have no interest in getting into arguments and will not so do ! The books have been well written and capture the imagination of millions of people, have persuaded people(of their own “free will”) to read, take an interest in the written word ! It has created a community world wide who have put their efforts into helping others and not “force feeding” ill conceived” ideas to readers ! Jo has blessed the world with a wonderful story . I feel truly Blessed. THANKS !”

Posted by Flittwick on March 09, 2008, 03:57 AM report to moderator
Amalor Myrnnyx

Laura Mallory reminds me far too much of Patricia Pulling.

And now that everyone is scratching their heads, wondering who I’m talking about, let me explain. Back in the late 70’s, Ms. Pulling’s son committed suicide after his Dungeons & Dragons character died in a game. Ms. Pulling went on a 15-year war to ban Dungeons & Dragons in the US, blaming it for the death of her son. Now, bear in mind, she completely ignored the fact that her son was a chronic depressive, with a history of suicide attempts.

Whenever I hear someone start with the “anti-Harry” nonsense, I always think back to Ms. Pulling, and wonder what would have happened if anyone actually gave her more than her 15 minutes?

Posted by Amalor Myrnnyx on March 09, 2008, 03:16 AM report to moderator
David

I think that it is dumb that Dumbledore is gay, come on its a children’s book. But I still do love the books and J.K.Rowling.

Posted by David on March 09, 2008, 03:19 AM report to moderator
Whodunit

Wow. I always enjoy her interviews! :D

It’s great that she takes the liberty for continually being creative with her stories and not having to apologize for it. She does get attacked quite often for this and that, and it must be very difficult to deal with at times. I admire her for standing her ground, while other people might view it as a threat and take it personally. Not too many people have the backbone that she has. If she always had to worry about what other people think, she would never be at peace. Sometimes people make mountains out of molehills over things, particularly about the background info on Dumbledore. It is more of a fun fact than anything else. If only more can enjoy things for what they are.

Posted by Whodunit on March 09, 2008, 03:21 AM report to moderator
mollywobble

David, so you object to the subtle hints in the book that Dumbledore had an infatuation with another man, but you have no problem with the overt heterosexual moments found through the entire series? There is no problem with Ginny kissing Harry like she had never kissed him before, but children should never be exposed to the word “gay,” right? Okay….

Posted by mollywobble on March 09, 2008, 03:37 AM report to moderator
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