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JKR/WB vs. RDR Books Trial: Summary Reports

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Posted by: Kristin
April 17, 2008, 04:13 PM

From various sources, articles on this week’s trial:

The BBC

The Sydney Morning Herald.

The International Herald Tribune

UPDATE:

The New York Post

The Guardian

The Telegraph

Other reports from the trial can be found here. If you have find an article on the trial that you believe Leaky should link to, please contact us, or leave them in the comments section.

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119 Comments

emmy

Yes, maybe… But I don’t think either party would want that. And especially – who of us would want stuff from the Lexicon book in Jo’s Scottish book? Jo’d be the first to not want that: she doesn’t need SVA, she knows better! She knows more, too- she wrote it.

Posted by emmy on April 17, 2008, 09:20 PM report to moderator
emmy

woops, my last piece was a reply to daddyfrog

Posted by emmy on April 17, 2008, 09:22 PM report to moderator
daddyfrog

yea your right it would be a bit unlikely. But, surely there is a way to get back to just plain enjoying HP.

Posted by daddyfrog on April 17, 2008, 09:28 PM report to moderator
emmy

I truely hope, for Jo’s sake most of all, that this case won’t take years. She thought she could have a break from it all…

Posted by emmy on April 17, 2008, 09:31 PM report to moderator
daddyfrog

Amen!

Posted by daddyfrog on April 17, 2008, 09:47 PM report to moderator
Gary

Hmmm. I wonder how the different Supreme Court Justices would feel about this. I wonder if for example a more conservative justice would be more likely to rule in favor of stricter copyright protection and a more liberal justice would be more likely to rule in favor of more liberal fair use laws.

No matter which way the court rules, I believe SVA has acted unethically. I believe this because someone had the goodwill to allow him license to make a living off a website free of copyright restriction, and then, in spite of being asked by that person not to do it, he has gone ahead and put that person in the position where her goodwill is being used against her. I believe this is unethical behavior. This doesn’t mean squat in terms of the outcome of the trial, because people acting unethically receive favorable court rulings all the time, but I like to believe that people who behave this way tend to have their behaviour come ‘round and bite them in the backside at some point. Call it karma or whatever.

And when JKR said (paraphrasing here), “they might not read the book for entertainment, but there are entertaining things in the book and I wrote them,” it really brought home to me the principle at stake here. It’s probably hard for the average person to imagine how much work and effort she put into each and every one of those anecdotes and descriptions that basically constitute the text of the Lexicon. But I am sure as JKR is reading the Lexicon, on just about every entry, she is seeing something that she remembers working very hard to create, probably remembering what she was doing at that point in her life when she wrote it and the particulars as to the effort involved. The courts may rule that the “synthesis” is transformative, but SVA is not winning any victories for fair use, he is more setting an example of how one can cash in on something with just a fraction of the talent and effort of the original creator. He is like a George Washington for slackers.

Anyway, I realize loads of people vehemently disagree with me, but this is why I feel the way I do about the two sides.

Posted by Gary on April 17, 2008, 10:11 PM report to moderator
Rachel *

My first thought was also “The judged said they books were gibberish. What a dumb* “, but then I thought that while I got “sucked” into PS straight away some people just didn’t. Fantasy is not for everyone.

Last week I tried to read The Giver after reading about it on here but I just could not get into it. It wasn’t gibberish but it just wasn’t for me.

HP can be “extremely complex” to some people but isn’t that a good thing. That person will then pick up a dictionary or encyclopaedia and learn more.

Posted by Rachel * on April 17, 2008, 10:18 PM report to moderator
Dean

If fantasy isn’t your thing and you find it hard to follow, looking things up will only take you out of the story every time you look something up. If fantasy isn’t your thing, then don’t read it. That’s how I see It.

Posted by Dean on April 17, 2008, 10:23 PM report to moderator
looney

If there was a settlement, would that include that the Lexicon can be published but with many corrections and revisions? If that is the case, they should resort to citing the text phrase by phrase properly and calling it an unofficial guide. No way am I will be buying that book since there are numerous resources online that can accompany the reference needed. The HPL is not the only online encyclopedia out there. The reason why I would buy “the Scottish book” is to read about more backstories and explanations written by the HP author herself. I would not depend on facts rehashed by SVA since there are factual errors in the site itself.

It is a shame indeed that it has all been brought to this. I agree that I would really want to hear takes from other famous authors out there such as Stephen King and see how he would handle this situation as well. So far the reports see Jo as the monster, Goliath and SVA as the little innocent victim, David. So sad!

Posted by looney on April 17, 2008, 10:24 PM report to moderator
Old Mr Toad

Ah Melissa… How I wish you (and I’ll bet I’m not alone) were still taking notes and giving us the rundown on proceedings. You can put all this in a context relative to what fans want to know, not what will sell newspapers or increase audience size. BBC, WSJ et al don’t tell all. They tell us a titillating part.

I just hope the judge will see it our way.

OMT

Posted by Old Mr Toad on April 17, 2008, 10:27 PM report to moderator
Professor Potter

I honestly think the judge made the remark about finding the first book confusing as small talk in between the trial examinations etc. Even though, I find this judge asking too many questions that appear like “cross examination” on JK/WB, (Elizabeth kindly corrects me that is not the case) I have faith that the judge will be fair as possible as far as this completed law allows him to.

Btw A cheer to Elizabeth who has been quite the heroine on these comment boards, straightening out our legal naivities with some pretty indepth explanations without patronising. Thanks Elizabeth.

OK, now lets continue bashing SVA and the judge….just kidding.

Posted by Professor Potter on April 17, 2008, 10:30 PM report to moderator
Dean

“So far the reports see Jo as the monster, Goliath and SVA as the little innocent victim, David. So sad!”

- It’s because they don’t know Jo the way we do. They don’t realize that she doesn’t try to stop everything or everybody.

Posted by Dean on April 17, 2008, 10:31 PM report to moderator
Neil

Yes I’m another who would love to hear Stepehn King’s opinion. But I bet he is wanting to remain quiet, for the moment. Perhaps he will give his thoughts once a judgement has been made.

Posted by Neil on April 17, 2008, 10:34 PM report to moderator
NotTheHBP

It should be noted that they likely choose a judge who wasent a fan of the books for the obvious reason that it would be unfair if the judge was a fan. a judge can not have a personal view of the case, he has to be impartial and give the law its chance. i dont feel worried about him cause he didnt rather enjoy the first harry potter book, but i definatly do not think it will ultimately matter. the encylopedia, having read a great chunk of it, can do nothing to help people get used to the names. thats not a issue. seeing as 91% of it apperently is simply jk rowling’s own words.

Posted by NotTheHBP on April 17, 2008, 10:38 PM report to moderator
gobblydeduke

Reading all your comments over the last few months, I feel that WB should have allowed publication! How many of you would ever have heard of this book if it wasn’t for the court case. I know that I wouldn’t, also I would n’t buy it not because of some great JKR worship (sorry I know this is the wrong word) but because I like my H.P. to come from JKR. If this book had been published without WB contesting it would not have sold nearly as many copies as it will if the court case goes thier way. We should all be allowed to enjoy the Harry Potter experince in our own way and if the Lexicon helps by bringing out a book so be it. Both W.B. and J.K.R. have in the past praised and used the Lexicon site. I only found it through J.K.R’s site and through that the L.C.

Posted by gobblydeduke on April 17, 2008, 10:48 PM report to moderator
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