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JKR/WB vs. RDR Books Trial: "Pro Jo" Editorials

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Posted by: Kristin
April 20, 2008, 09:35 PM

In contrast to recent editorials that have slammed J.K. Rowling and WB for pursuing litigation in the case of Steve Vander Ark’s Lexicon book are two editorials in support of the author:

From Natalie Haynes of the Times Online:

“RDR, the publishers of the lexicon, have described it as a “David and Goliath battle”, which would be an accurate metaphor if, instead of smacking Goliath on the kisser with a slingshot, David had rather gone through Goliath’s collected fiction, whacked some choice paragraphs into an order of his choosing, put his own name on the cover, and then tried to make a quick buck off someone else’s work.”

And from Joan Smith of The Independent:

”...the lexicon isn’t an encyclopedia in the normal sense, consisting of facts that are in the public domain, but something parasitic on years of hard work by Rowling. Her present bank balance is irrelevant to the case, except in so far as she is one of the few British authors who can afford to sue when their work is used without permission or payment; in that sense, she is defending the rights of thousands of writers, most of whom don’t earn enough to live on.”

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62 Comments

Meredith

Thank goodness some people actually get the whole point of the case!! Its not about money but about SVA stealing Jo’s work and calling it his own! Go Jo!! I’ll be so angry if she doesnt win this case!!

Posted by Meredith on April 20, 2008, 09:42 PM report to moderator
jennycat

Can we just ignore this mess? It has completely taken all the fun out of Harry for me.

Posted by jennycat on April 20, 2008, 09:42 PM report to moderator
Sarah

I’m glad that Joan Smith pointed out the difference between reference guides to real-world information as opposed to worlds created in the minds of authors. i also am glad she pointed out the far-reaching effects of Stanford and RDR trying to (in my opinion) expand the definition of Fair Use. While I think Fair Use is important so that people can write about and discuss those fictional worlds, I think at some point if you expand Fair Use it becomes detrimental to the original author and robs them of the ability to benefit from their own hard work and creativity.

Posted by Sarah on April 20, 2008, 09:48 PM report to moderator
Atb

That David & Goliath comparison, hilarious. :D

Posted by Atb on April 20, 2008, 09:51 PM report to moderator
Courtney K

THANK YOU! It’s not a real world encyclopedia, it’s a Potter encyclopedia and Jo is in the right. She has every right to defend her creation, as every writer does. Just because she can afford to sue, doesn’t mean she’s wrong. RDR and Vander Ark are trying to make money off of her work. Shame on them.

I love you Jo and I support you COMPLETELY!

Posted by Courtney K on April 20, 2008, 09:59 PM report to moderator
tara

my god.. THANK YOU some journalists actually know what they are talking about!!

perez hilton the celebrity “journalist” is writing about the case also, and HE DOES NOT GET IT!

I just wanted to punch him in the face for saying that Jo already has enough money.. the encyclopedia is going towards CHARITY idiots.

Posted by tara on April 20, 2008, 10:06 PM report to moderator
p.f.

The “Pro Jo”-articles seem harder to find, though. Here again some critique, sober considerations in the Financial Times about ‘Humility and Harry Potter’ (Apr 18).

Posted by p.f. on April 20, 2008, 10:28 PM report to moderator
TarsieS

I’m with Jo all the way on this. It is her intellectual property and she has the right to say yay or nay to it’s use in books for profit. Other commentary books are scholary works – not this one. If Mugglenet could sease and desist when asked to, why can’t SVA and the Lexicon?

Posted by TarsieS on April 20, 2008, 10:30 PM report to moderator
TarsieS

Ooops, sorry – can’t see straight this evening – ‘cease’.

Posted by TarsieS on April 20, 2008, 10:31 PM report to moderator
Wizengamut

I seriously have a headache after all this nasty mess. Jo is right, SVA is wrong, end of story. Glad some reporters out there can see the forest for the trees.

Posted by Wizengamut on April 20, 2008, 10:35 PM report to moderator
Averyfan

Re: the FT article

The guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. The suit is about the Lexicon BOOK, not the website. The book looks nothing like the website. Why is that so hard to understand? Even one of the Mugglenet guys got it wrong, at this late date.

Posted by Averyfan on April 20, 2008, 10:40 PM report to moderator
Lindsay

I can’t believe the judge wants them to settle. i mean that is so rediculous. JO’S WORK IS NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN!!

ots is her hard work, and they are right, she is fighting for other writers who dont have enough money to protect their work.

Live. Love, Harry Potter! and Jo!

Posted by Lindsay on April 20, 2008, 10:41 PM report to moderator
Neil

I think the reason why we’re not hearing much of pro-Jo, from the media, is because they don’t want to defend her. They like knocking people of their pedestals. It’s rather sad that the media is no longer the persuer of the facts.

Posted by Neil on April 20, 2008, 10:44 PM report to moderator
ScottMan

I’m glad at least some of Jo’s fellow writers aren’t afraid to see her side of things. :)

Posted by ScottMan on April 20, 2008, 10:45 PM report to moderator
BARBARA M G ILOTT

In the real world, publishers of scholarly works frequently imploy an indexer [who is NOT the author] to compile an index of a work to make it of more value to the reader. This is normal. SVDA is a librarian and an indexer. The main difference here is the scale of the project, and the fact that the source work is fiction. People who accuse SVDA of “not being creative” and “putting his name to someone else’s work” are simply missing the point: that is what indexers DO. The other difference is that the indexer is generally working for the author – or at any rate the author’s publisher – and frequently it is the author who has to pay the indexer to do the job. JKR is getting a thoroughly professional job done for nothing.

In this case a fan has paid the fiction author the compliment of taking her fictional work seriously.

SVDA – and his team – have put in years of hard, unpaid work into this compilation. He has worked to scrupulous standards of accuracy and has made it crystal clear if any associated item (like the essays) are speculative. I cannot see that that it is unfair if he and his team make a small profit on the venture in return for all their hard work.

My own feeling is that it is Warner Bros – who want to keep the HP “brand” to themselves – who have whipped up this and that it is they who are being dogs in the manger. They probably don’t like the fact that SVDA’s scupulous accuracy extends to pointing out where and when the films contradict the books – and that he regards the films per se as “not canon”, that is, as “factually” unreliable.

Any encyclopaedia that JKR writes in the future (and when will that be, may I ask ?) will be full of creative material because she – not SVDA – is the creative artist, and she has in her imagination all kinds of material that has not appeared in the books but will enhance and expand the published series.

The two books (Lexicon & Encyclopaedia) will not be competitors; they will be complementary - even if the hard copy Lexicon is still in print when the Scottish Encyclopaedia is finally published. In any case I bet the majority of fans will buy both. I would certainly be prepared to!
Posted by BARBARA M G ILOTT on April 20, 2008, 10:47 PM report to moderator
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