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TLC talks to David Heyman on HBP move, Deathly Hallows Scripts and more

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Posted by: Sue
September 19, 2008, 03:27 PM

Harry Potter film producer David Heyman has been conducting interviews in conjunction with the release of his newest film “The Boy in the Striped Pajamas” which stars actor David Thewlis (Remus Lupin). Along with many other Harry Potter fan sites, we here at the Leaky Cauldron were able to speak to Mr. Heyman, who answered this editor’s questions regarding the recent move of “Half-Blood Prince” to next year, as well as give us an update on the elimination of beloved characters from movie six, their return for movie seven. Importantly, Mr. Heyman discusses why two “Deathly Hallows” films were good for keeping in the subplot on The Deathly Hallows, and gives us an update on the progress on the scripts for “Deathly Hallows” part one and two. You can read the entire interview below.

Hi David, it’s Sue from Leaky. 
After the news broke on the decision to move the film until next year, fans were very upset and (WB president) Alan Horn weighed in with his thoughts on this matter. Have you any words that you as the producer can say to those fans who are still very upset and concerned their feelings and dedication to the series are not being taken seriously?



DAVID HEYMAN: The fact is that my passion and that of everybody who works on the film is undiminished. It is called ‘the film business’ and the reason why Warner Bros moved the date was for business reasons. Because of the writer’s strike and other factors in Hollywood there was not the pipeline of material for next year that they needed. They had a very big year with The Dark Knight and they needed a big film for 2009 and Harry Potter filled that slot. I appreciate the disappointment, I really do. As a film maker it is always nice to finish a film and move on to the next. But I think that the film will not be hurt by this experience at all. The studio has always been, and remains, committed to the film in every way. If the film had come out in November this year, there would have been a two year wait for the first part of Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows. What now will happen is that there will be a two year gap between Order Of The Phoenix and The Half Blood Prince and there will only be, in ball park terms, a 16 month gap between Half Blood Prince and the first part of The Deathly Hallows. The Deathly Hallows is coming out in exactly the same schedule as was originally planned and we are starting principal photography in February as planned. So nothing has changed with the other films. As opposed to there being a two year gap between Five and Six, there will now be a two year gap between Six and Seven.

TLC. After the move of HBP to next year, we were uncertain if you were still going to do those test screenings, and I think its safe to say we were all thrilled with those reports from the first screenings-I know I can’t wait to see the movie! However, given there has to be cuts in beloved characters such as the House Elves, can you tell us if these things will impact the development of movie seven and eight (ie events at Gringotts/Grimmauld place and we love Dobby!).

DAVID HEYMAN: Inevitably there will be certain things that we will probably have to introduce and emphasise in the Seventh film. Before we read the Seventh book there had been things in the earlier films that we had not realized how important they were. There was an example in the Fifth film when we were considering cutting Kreature but Jo [Rowling] said to me…”I wouldn’t do that if I were you’…She didn’t tell us why, but she said we would be advised to keep him. And of course in the Seventh book Kreacher is an important character. It has been a while, for example, since we have seen Dobby and I suspect we are going to have to make more of Dobby in Seven than we might have done. I think we have done a pretty good job of what we need in terms of the plot.   TLC.How are we doing on the scripts for both the DH films btw?

DAVID HEYMAN: They will be very faithful to the book. On of the pleasures of having the time to make two films means we will be able to go into more detail than we might otherwise have been able to do. If we had only done one film we were concerned that we might have to remove The Deathly Hallows. We never went that far but that would have been something that might have had to come out, which would have been terrible! The script is coming along well; I have read the first half of the adaptation. I have not read the second half, that should be coming in the next few weeks.  

FROM: JOHN MILLAR  QUESTION: What was the toughest thing about bringing The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas to the screen?

DAVID HEYMAN: It was actually a fairly organic process. I know that is going to be hard to believe but I read the book and loved the book but I was a little cautious about embarking upon it, just because of the challenges involved in bringing it to the screen. Mark Herman [the director] optioned the book and then came to me with the screenplay and it all seemed very clear to me. Mark did such a great job with his adaptation in script form and Brassed Off [which Mark Herman directed] was one of my favourite British films of the last 20 years and so the challenge in The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas was getting it done within the budget that we had because clearly there was only going to be a finite budget to make it. But Miramax were incredibly supportive and did not ask us to change the ending, did not ask us to really alter much. I suppose in terms of actually getting it made it was a fairly straightforward process. I liked the book, Mark Herman liked the book, he did a screenplay, Miramax liked the script and had always been interested in the book and decided to make it. So it was much less challenging than it might appear. I think it is just a sign of what good fortune I have had in my recent life. But I suppose one of the great challenges was looking at this from a child’s point of view and managing some of the more naive aspects of the book, which I love in the book but which when translated to film might be a little difficult and not as involving but off-putting. So trying to capture the spirit of the book, yet acknowledging the different demands of a film was a challenge.   QUESTION: How hard was it to find Asa Butterfield and Jack Scanlon to play the children Bruno and Shmuel in The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas?

DAVID HEYMAN: It was quite hard. We had the fantastic Pippa Hall whose specialty is child actors and she found the boy who played Billy Elliott. I have known Pippa since I was a child. We had approached Leo Davis to do the casting and Leo brought on Pippa. She scoured and scoured the country. It was a fine balance because you wanted the children to possess the essence of the characters because however their imagination you are very often working with the innate essence of a child. So Pippa showed us hundreds upon hundreds of tapes of children, most of whom had very little experience. When it came down to it, our Bruno had no film experience at all. In a way part of the innocence of Asa Butterfield served us well because he was not particularly knowledgeable about the Holocaust, he wasn’t particularly experienced in film making. He became a little bit more knowledgeable of both through the process of making The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas and I think that the gradual increased awareness of both the Holocaust and the film making experience fed into the journey that the character goes through in the film.

Thanks much to John Millar and Krzys!

Update 1: In an interview with Snitchseeker regarding the premiere of the HBP film, Mr. Heyman said that “We suspect that there will be a premiere in New York and one in London. ” He also confirmed the reason behind cutting the battle at the end of the HBP was indeed due to the big battle that happens at the end of Deathly Hallows.

Update 2: In his interview with HPANA, David Heyman noted on the identities of each of the Deathly Hallows films by describing them as “We try to focus on a specific theme within each film and each of these films will have a specific theme running through it. In terms of camera work and lighting there will be slight differences. We are aiming for a slightly different aesthetic”

Update 3: From the HarryPotterspage interview, we hear more on what Mr. Heyman’s plans are post-Potter:I am both excited and frankly a little saddened by the end of the series growing closer. Working on Harry Potter has been the gift of all gifts. It has changed my life in every which way. Every day working on it, I promise you, has been an absolute pleasure and something that will never be repeated. I am sure that when the time comes it will be a very sad day. I work with certain groups of people every day and I will not be doing that in the same way in the future. I will also be very proud because I am very proud of the films and very proud of the body of work that I have been a part of. At the same time I will be very excited about the new challenges that lie ahead. I am working on a book called The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Night Time which I look forward to working with Steve Kloves who has written the Harry Potter films and who will write and direct that. Even now I am working on Paddington Bear and some other more adult films. I also made a few other films while I was producing Harry Potter so I am looking forward to having a little more time to work on those things. But Harry Potter will always be a part of me and what an amazing journey it has been.

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68 Comments

GinaC

One more thing: regarding the battle scene at Hogwarts, I think what he meant is that they didn’t want the big battle in DH to look like a re-hash of the one in HBP. While a little disappointing, I guess it makes sense to me. Well, sorta. But I do hope that since they have extra time they might try to make some actual substantial changes if needed. That would make the wait worthwhile and put a REAL silver lining on the release date change.

Posted by GinaC on September 19, 2008, 09:00 PM report to moderator
Martha

I really hope they keep Dobby in DH!!!! I have no idea how they will reintroduce him, but I guess they’ll have to find a way. And I really hope they keep the whole Kreacher/RAB subplot too cause I’m really scared that they won’t. Yay for house elves!

Posted by Martha on September 19, 2008, 09:08 PM report to moderator
Mimblewimble

“HPANA: From a purely artistic perspective - which you said was one of the reasons for the delay - will the extra time be used to work on the film?

DAVID HEYMAN: Oh absolutely!”

OK, this is the quote upon which I based my previous statement. HPANA says that Heyman said that the artistic perspective was one of the reasons for the delay (although I haven’t seen the quote to which they are referring). Why would they say the “artistic perpective” was one of the reasons for the delay unless that meant improving the movie was one of the reasons for the delay?

By the way, I am not angry about the delay; I did make an extremely sarcastic comment when the news first broke, but even then I knew I would get over it pretty quickly.

Posted by Mimblewimble on September 19, 2008, 09:09 PM report to moderator
Campusanis

He finally spoke out the real reasons. This is the answer I was hoping to hear, that people do feel passion for Jo’s work, but it IS a business and there’s not much you can do about it.

Posted by Campusanis on September 19, 2008, 09:17 PM report to moderator
roonwit

With regard to working on the film, there is Parkinson’s law which says “work expands so as to fill the time available for its completion.” Had they stuck to the November release the film would still be ready, but because of their change, they will take more time over it (particularly special effects), which means they can probably do a slightly better job, and achieving a slightly better end product.

Posted by roonwit on September 19, 2008, 09:28 PM report to moderator
sam

I don’t recall Heyman ever saying that, Mimblewimble. I’d need a quote. They’ve said repeatedly that the only reason for the delay is because of the writer’s strike and having nothing good in 2009.

HBP is still being treated the same as the other films. It will be ready by November. But like roonwit said, they do have more time now and things like special effects will surely be amazing come July.

Posted by sam on September 19, 2008, 09:33 PM report to moderator
claudia

Yay Dobby’s coming back!!!

to die :(?? doesn’t feel right, but he deserves to comeback.

I’m so glad he admitted to this

“Before we read the Seventh book there had been things in the earlier films that we had not realized how important they were.”

I guess because to us fans everything is super important!!!

Posted by claudia on September 19, 2008, 09:40 PM report to moderator
Arithmancer

Just want to add my voice to the chorus of appreciation for Heyman’s frankness. He says it without the smarm.

Posted by Arithmancer on September 19, 2008, 10:47 PM report to moderator
Jacinta

Yep I’m happy now!

Posted by Jacinta on September 19, 2008, 11:50 PM report to moderator
Geekboy

Ok, so no battle at the end of HBP. Does this mean a drastically re-worked Lightning Struck Tower “chapter”? Is there still the Harry/Snape clash at the end? I really hope so…

Posted by Geekboy on September 20, 2008, 12:18 AM report to moderator
Sydney

mr.heyman explained the delay much better than alan horn did now i dont fell like throwing toilet paper and eggs at warner brothers

Posted by Sydney on September 20, 2008, 12:20 AM report to moderator
Mary

So it’s true thyy left Dumbledore’s funeral out? How could that be possible?? That’s such an emotional moment, your ending better be good WB!

Posted by Mary on September 20, 2008, 02:04 AM report to moderator
MattJM

Same tired old excuses, worth nothing. WB is unbelieveably rich, and there is no reason why the film should make more in July that it would have in November (the first film was the highest grossing to date, released in November).

So the only reason for moving the film is to make their 2009 gross higher, which is, frankly, pathetic and serves no real purpose apart from making WB look better for their shareholders, pissing off their moviegoers and ruining the profits of their merchandisers.

Thankyou David for giving us the real reason for this stupid and rather pointless business decision. I figured it out myself a long time ago, but thankyou for giving it to us without the sugar-coating that Alan Horn thought we would swallow.

Still boycotting the entire theatrical run of HBP. Yeah.

Posted by MattJM on September 20, 2008, 03:10 AM report to moderator
picazo

so HPB won’t have a battle at howgart?

Posted by picazo on September 20, 2008, 03:45 AM report to moderator
MattJM

This is what David Heyman said in the HPANA interview:

“HPANA: The delay of Half-Blood Prince is unprecedented for such a high profile and successful franchise, and Warner Bros. has received a lot of flack from fans. Alan Horn even said the film was ready to premiere in November, yet the recent screening in Chicago produced mixed reviews. From a purely artistic perspective - which you said was one of the reasons for the delay - will the extra time be used to work on the film?

DAVID HEYMAN: Oh absolutely! The reason for a screening such as the one in Chicago is to give us information about any areas of confusion or pace or any issues that may arise, and work on them. So over the last couple of weeks, we have been working incredibly hard on the cut of the film and we will make changes to improve it. It is something that we have done with every film in the Harry Potter series.”

People still seem to think that the special effects are going to be redone or additional filming will take place. Read my lips: it won’t happen. There will be NOTHING new in the final film compared to what was shown at the Chicago screening, except that the missing effects will all be rendered over the footage.

All that they are doing now is what they always do after a test-screening, they change some scenes around and cut some scenes out, based on the test audience feedback. So if anything we will get LESS footage in the final film, not more.

This process would have been finished well before the release of the film, if the film had kept to it’s original release date. They will have finished this process before November 2008, and then the film will not be touched again until it’s new release time in July 2009.

There is no way that they are going to put the film back in production and go over budget. No way at all. The film may be worked on for the next month or two, but that will be it.

Posted by MattJM on September 20, 2008, 03:46 AM report to moderator
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