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TLC talks to David Heyman on HBP move, Deathly Hallows Scripts and more

TLC Interviews
Posted by: Sue
September 19, 2008, 03:27 PM

Harry Potter film producer David Heyman has been conducting interviews in conjunction with the release of his newest film “The Boy in the Striped Pajamas” which stars actor David Thewlis (Remus Lupin). Along with many other Harry Potter fan sites, we here at the Leaky Cauldron were able to speak to Mr. Heyman, who answered this editor’s questions regarding the recent move of “Half-Blood Prince” to next year, as well as give us an update on the elimination of beloved characters from movie six, their return for movie seven. Importantly, Mr. Heyman discusses why two “Deathly Hallows” films were good for keeping in the subplot on The Deathly Hallows, and gives us an update on the progress on the scripts for “Deathly Hallows” part one and two. You can read the entire interview below.

Hi David, it’s Sue from Leaky. 
After the news broke on the decision to move the film until next year, fans were very upset and (WB president) Alan Horn weighed in with his thoughts on this matter. Have you any words that you as the producer can say to those fans who are still very upset and concerned their feelings and dedication to the series are not being taken seriously?



DAVID HEYMAN: The fact is that my passion and that of everybody who works on the film is undiminished. It is called ‘the film business’ and the reason why Warner Bros moved the date was for business reasons. Because of the writer’s strike and other factors in Hollywood there was not the pipeline of material for next year that they needed. They had a very big year with The Dark Knight and they needed a big film for 2009 and Harry Potter filled that slot. I appreciate the disappointment, I really do. As a film maker it is always nice to finish a film and move on to the next. But I think that the film will not be hurt by this experience at all. The studio has always been, and remains, committed to the film in every way. If the film had come out in November this year, there would have been a two year wait for the first part of Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows. What now will happen is that there will be a two year gap between Order Of The Phoenix and The Half Blood Prince and there will only be, in ball park terms, a 16 month gap between Half Blood Prince and the first part of The Deathly Hallows. The Deathly Hallows is coming out in exactly the same schedule as was originally planned and we are starting principal photography in February as planned. So nothing has changed with the other films. As opposed to there being a two year gap between Five and Six, there will now be a two year gap between Six and Seven.

TLC. After the move of HBP to next year, we were uncertain if you were still going to do those test screenings, and I think its safe to say we were all thrilled with those reports from the first screenings-I know I can’t wait to see the movie! However, given there has to be cuts in beloved characters such as the House Elves, can you tell us if these things will impact the development of movie seven and eight (ie events at Gringotts/Grimmauld place and we love Dobby!).

DAVID HEYMAN: Inevitably there will be certain things that we will probably have to introduce and emphasise in the Seventh film. Before we read the Seventh book there had been things in the earlier films that we had not realized how important they were. There was an example in the Fifth film when we were considering cutting Kreature but Jo [Rowling] said to me…”I wouldn’t do that if I were you’…She didn’t tell us why, but she said we would be advised to keep him. And of course in the Seventh book Kreacher is an important character. It has been a while, for example, since we have seen Dobby and I suspect we are going to have to make more of Dobby in Seven than we might have done. I think we have done a pretty good job of what we need in terms of the plot.   TLC.How are we doing on the scripts for both the DH films btw?

DAVID HEYMAN: They will be very faithful to the book. On of the pleasures of having the time to make two films means we will be able to go into more detail than we might otherwise have been able to do. If we had only done one film we were concerned that we might have to remove The Deathly Hallows. We never went that far but that would have been something that might have had to come out, which would have been terrible! The script is coming along well; I have read the first half of the adaptation. I have not read the second half, that should be coming in the next few weeks.  

FROM: JOHN MILLAR  QUESTION: What was the toughest thing about bringing The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas to the screen?

DAVID HEYMAN: It was actually a fairly organic process. I know that is going to be hard to believe but I read the book and loved the book but I was a little cautious about embarking upon it, just because of the challenges involved in bringing it to the screen. Mark Herman [the director] optioned the book and then came to me with the screenplay and it all seemed very clear to me. Mark did such a great job with his adaptation in script form and Brassed Off [which Mark Herman directed] was one of my favourite British films of the last 20 years and so the challenge in The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas was getting it done within the budget that we had because clearly there was only going to be a finite budget to make it. But Miramax were incredibly supportive and did not ask us to change the ending, did not ask us to really alter much. I suppose in terms of actually getting it made it was a fairly straightforward process. I liked the book, Mark Herman liked the book, he did a screenplay, Miramax liked the script and had always been interested in the book and decided to make it. So it was much less challenging than it might appear. I think it is just a sign of what good fortune I have had in my recent life. But I suppose one of the great challenges was looking at this from a child’s point of view and managing some of the more naive aspects of the book, which I love in the book but which when translated to film might be a little difficult and not as involving but off-putting. So trying to capture the spirit of the book, yet acknowledging the different demands of a film was a challenge.   QUESTION: How hard was it to find Asa Butterfield and Jack Scanlon to play the children Bruno and Shmuel in The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas?

DAVID HEYMAN: It was quite hard. We had the fantastic Pippa Hall whose specialty is child actors and she found the boy who played Billy Elliott. I have known Pippa since I was a child. We had approached Leo Davis to do the casting and Leo brought on Pippa. She scoured and scoured the country. It was a fine balance because you wanted the children to possess the essence of the characters because however their imagination you are very often working with the innate essence of a child. So Pippa showed us hundreds upon hundreds of tapes of children, most of whom had very little experience. When it came down to it, our Bruno had no film experience at all. In a way part of the innocence of Asa Butterfield served us well because he was not particularly knowledgeable about the Holocaust, he wasn’t particularly experienced in film making. He became a little bit more knowledgeable of both through the process of making The Boy In The Striped Pyjamas and I think that the gradual increased awareness of both the Holocaust and the film making experience fed into the journey that the character goes through in the film.

Thanks much to John Millar and Krzys!

Update 1: In an interview with Snitchseeker regarding the premiere of the HBP film, Mr. Heyman said that “We suspect that there will be a premiere in New York and one in London. ” He also confirmed the reason behind cutting the battle at the end of the HBP was indeed due to the big battle that happens at the end of Deathly Hallows.

Update 2: In his interview with HPANA, David Heyman noted on the identities of each of the Deathly Hallows films by describing them as “We try to focus on a specific theme within each film and each of these films will have a specific theme running through it. In terms of camera work and lighting there will be slight differences. We are aiming for a slightly different aesthetic”

Update 3: From the HarryPotterspage interview, we hear more on what Mr. Heyman’s plans are post-Potter:I am both excited and frankly a little saddened by the end of the series growing closer. Working on Harry Potter has been the gift of all gifts. It has changed my life in every which way. Every day working on it, I promise you, has been an absolute pleasure and something that will never be repeated. I am sure that when the time comes it will be a very sad day. I work with certain groups of people every day and I will not be doing that in the same way in the future. I will also be very proud because I am very proud of the films and very proud of the body of work that I have been a part of. At the same time I will be very excited about the new challenges that lie ahead. I am working on a book called The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Night Time which I look forward to working with Steve Kloves who has written the Harry Potter films and who will write and direct that. Even now I am working on Paddington Bear and some other more adult films. I also made a few other films while I was producing Harry Potter so I am looking forward to having a little more time to work on those things. But Harry Potter will always be a part of me and what an amazing journey it has been.

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68 Comments

Prenz

Oh well, at least he was honest…by now, the whole HBP thing has worn off even…I’m just waiting for Melissa’s book!!

Posted by Prenz on September 20, 2008, 04:46 AM report to moderator
John

Dont get me wrong I am looking forward to the two films and I like what theyr going to do but I now think the decision was made with a money the biggest factor unlike they said at the time. That is nice that David took the time to talk about this with the fansites.

Posted by John on September 20, 2008, 04:46 AM report to moderator
rcs

What are they going to do about the fact that we haven’t seen Mundungus or the Locket at Grimmauld Place in OotP? They’re going to have to invent some other way for the Locket to wind up at the Ministry.

Posted by rcs on September 20, 2008, 08:58 AM report to moderator
Professor Potter

Well, Alan Horn must be muttering “I said the same thing, how comes the fans are kind to Heyman, and I get eggs?!? Not fair”. Tact, Mr Horn, that and a sincerity in delivery of statement. Heyman spoke to the fan sites with more respect and with less condescending. Alan may be a good president and a business man but he is one lousy PR and must not be let loose in that arena again!

This Boy in the striped Pyjama looks wonderful. The trailer grabbed me too. Cant wait to see it though I am torn as to whether I should read the book first.

Posted by Professor Potter on September 20, 2008, 08:59 AM report to moderator
Confederate Lady

Thank you, again, TLC and especially Sue, for bringing us more HP news! Mr Heyman was very frank and to the point. This is a good thing. I think, now that the movie has been moved, more time CAN be devoted to “tweaking” and “fine tuning” HBP. It will be MOST interesting to see how they have re-worked ‘The Lightning Struck Tower’. Good job, MR H, and thanks Sue. [As always] Leaky Cauldron leads the way on the HP information highway!

Posted by Confederate Lady on September 20, 2008, 11:41 AM report to moderator
Rzz

If they don’t have the battle, then Harry doesn’t need to give his friends that last of his Felix Felicis, right? I wonder if they are going to discuss the potion before he leaves for the cave. And if none of that happens then the potion is kind of pointless. I mean you need it for a few things that go on, but it all ties together to make a stronger subplot.

Posted by Rzz on September 20, 2008, 12:47 PM report to moderator
kamion

If we had only done one film we were concerned that we might have to remove The Deathly Hallows.

And we would have named the movie: Harry Potter and the Directors Cut or Harry Potter and the Deathly Cut to keep closer to the original. Leave it to Hollywood to kill a great work,

Posted by kamion on September 20, 2008, 07:39 PM report to moderator
Adam

Im sorry, but with no hogwarts battles and dumbeldore death/funeral, the HP film franchise is runined, for me anyway. Towards the end of book 6, these parts make up a good quarter of it and where the most shocking scenes. So how do we know they had a fight and Dumbeldores death for film 7 then? How do we see Snape kill him and run off down the grounds, wondering if hes a goodie or a baddie?

Posted by Adam on September 20, 2008, 09:54 PM report to moderator
Lindsay

so close but so far away!!!

Posted by Lindsay on September 21, 2008, 12:34 AM report to moderator
eb

You can say that again, Adam! :P

Actually, they’re getting around the final Harry/Snape battle by cutting Snape out of the film entirely. (just kidding).

They’d better make it work.

Incidentally, I can’t stand changing films because of test audiences. What if the audience is full of dunces?

Posted by eb on September 21, 2008, 05:38 AM report to moderator
eb

Important things left out of the films: 1) Mundungus Fletcher; 2) The locket; 3) The mirror Sirius gives to Harry; 4) The Vanishing Cabinet (although if there’s no battle, maybe there’s no need for it – but what would Draco’s “plan” be, then?)

Posted by eb on September 21, 2008, 05:41 AM report to moderator
eb

Important things left out of the films: 1) Mundungus Fletcher; 2) The locket; 3) The mirror Sirius gives to Harry; 4) The Vanishing Cabinet (although if there’s no battle, maybe there’s no need for it – but what would Draco’s “plan” be, then?)

Anything else?

Posted by eb on September 21, 2008, 05:41 AM report to moderator
sexyboy

id kill myself if they cut the deathly hallows out of the deathy hallows it even looks stupid writing it

Posted by sexyboy on September 21, 2008, 11:07 AM report to moderator
Tom M

“Very faithfulto the book” ! Not if you’ve changed the ending it isn’t!

Honestly, if this film is as stupidly short as OOTP I will not be a happy bunny!

Posted by Tom M on September 21, 2008, 12:57 PM report to moderator
David

I hope I’m not the only one seeing how ridiculous it would be to cut the Deathly Hallows out of Deathly Hallows. I mean, really. :-\

Posted by David on September 22, 2008, 03:04 AM report to moderator
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