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Details on Cave Scene, Events on Astronomy Tower from HBP Screening

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Posted by: Sue
September 07, 2008, 02:00 PM

Hang on everyone, we have another treat this morning! In addition to the first report from the test screening of “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” which took place yesterday in Chicago, TLC reader Rachezee sent us a new report today. This new report goes into great detail on the dramatic Cave Scene with the Inferi, as well as the pivotal events on the Astronomy tower with Snape, Draco and Dumbledore. Again a MAJOR SPOILER CAUTION is given, scroll down to read.

Thanks so much Rach!

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I am so sorry everyone, in my haste to write my review I completely forgot the cave scene! So here it is-

Dumbledore meets Harry at the top of the Astronomy tower and they apparate to outside the cave. As they are leaving Harry is surprised that that they can apparate from within the Hogwarts grounds, and Dumbledore says something along the lines of “That’s the beauty of being headmaster.”

The scene they apparate to, despite being slightly unfinished was nonetheless absolutely breathtaking. Cliffs and huge waves dominate the scene. Dumbledore finds their way to the anti-chamber and slits his hand (for you star trek fans – he does it in a Klingon way – straight across the inside of his hand). The wall crumbles away and Dumbledore explains to Harry that Voldemort would have set up defenses around the Horcrux.

The cave is very different than what I had pictured and than all the fan art I have seen, but still a chilling and amazing sight. It reminded me a bit of a normal cave mixed with the ice crystal place Superman goes to in one of his movies. The whole cave is a vast formation of huge crystals, jagged and rough, jutting out from the ceiling walls and floor.

They make their way to the water and Dumbledore cautions Harry not to touch it and he starts to raise the boat with magic. Then he has Harry reel it in with a very heavy long chain.

The island is a formation of crystals as is the basin. Now the only really cheesy and unspectacular thing about this whole scene is that they use a large white clam shell partially imbedded in a small rock to scoop up the potion. In my opinion it looked rather silly. Dumbledore tell Harry to force him to drink the potion and Gambon once again does a slightly better than usual job being forced to drink the potion.

At one point towards the end you can very softly hear Dumbledore mumble something like “please don’t hurt them, it’s all my fault.” But it was almost inaudible and I doubt anyone who has not read the book caught the line at all. Then after the last scoop is drunk, Gambon kind of goes back to his rather poor, unresearched acting and says with far too much strength. “Harry, Water.”

But first Harry goes back to the Basin and recovers the locket and in the background we can hear Dumbledore saying “Harry, water” getting slightly weaker each time he says it. Harry attempts to fill the basin with water the aguamenti charm, but can not get the scoop the water up with that silly shell. After trying several times and Dumbledore starting to collapse he goes to the lake to fill it there.

Suddenly the light that was emanating from the island with the basin goes out, and Harry lights his wand (most unfortunately with the non-existent spell luminous-maximus, or whatever it was he used in the beginning of the third movie), and slowly reaches down to scoop up the lake water. The moment he touches it a hand reaches out and grabs Harry’s wrist. The whole audience jumped in fear. Harry tries to fend off the inferi with all the spells we hear him try in the books. But in the end he is pulled down into the water.

Before I go on I must say the Inferi scene was one of the most spectacular of this movie. They looked a bit like the newer version of the Dementor, but much more human shaped and brownish. I fear I am not describing them well, because they were truly a scary site to see. The camera angles captured the scene of Harry trying hopelessly to defend himself and Dumbledore from them as they clambered onto the island from all different angles and the sheer number of them eventually overwhelms Harry and he is pulled down deep into the lake.

While Harry is underwater the view we have is from below him looking up and we can see the whole island from below as well. Suddenly the Inferi holding Harry releases him and he swims up to a surface covered in ferocious flame. The “ring of fire” Dumbledore conjures is an unbelievable sight, far more than I think anyone pictured in the books, but incredibly spectacular. Harry and Dumbledore climb back in the boat and the scene then cuts to Harry helping Dumbledore through the cave.

The every so anticipated lines of (I am paraphrasing) “Don’t worry sir, I’ll get us back” and Dumbledore replying “I am not worried, I am with you” are said. Executed very well by Radcliffe though rather poorly in my opinion by Gambon who clearly does not know the significant emotional value we fans know those lines have.

They then apparate back to the top of the astronomy tower. There is no dark mark in the sky. But as Dumbledore says he needs Severus not Madame Pomfrey they hear a commotion and Dumbledore orders Harry to go and hide and not come out or interfere. A command the book Harry would never have followed, but that the movie Harry would obey. Harry goes underneath the wooden floor of the tower where Dumbledore is standing where he can see everything through large gaps between the wood slates. Draco arrives and Tom does a brilliant job as a boy trying to be fierce and terrified at the same time. Some lines from the book are rather butchered by Dumbledore saying things like “Draco, you are not an assassin.” Then the Death Eaters arrive all in masks except Bellatrix and Greyback. Bellatrix urges Draco to do it though his wand lowers slightly.

Meanwhile under the floor Harry who is watching terrified with his wand at the ready is sneaked up on by Snape, whose wand is also out and puts his finger to his lips to make sure Harry stays quiet. My description does not quite capture that scene well enough, but I was surprised to find my heart ripping, perhaps because I knew what was going to happen when Snape appeared there. Snape quietly appears above, and Dumbledore, with far too much strength says “Severus Please.”

And Snape does the Avada Kadavra, and Bellatrix is ecstatic. The scene with Dumbledore being lifted into the air was unfortunately unfinished because we see him up in the air and then apparently falling down the side of the tower, but there was no motion yet. He is stationary in both scenes. I am sure more special effects will be added later. Then Bellatrix casts the Dark Mark (another amazing updated special effect with a black smoke skull and snake tongue). The Deatheaters all run out, destroying a bit of the castle in a euphoric tantrum along the way. There is no battle inside Hogwarts and the only one to chase them is Harry.

There was no Amycus or Alecto anywhere I could see. Oh, and there is no Rosmerta either. Forgot to mention that before.

Anyway, the Deatheaters set Hagrid’s hut on fire and the scene I already described happens between Harry and Snape. Harry then returns to find the whole school gathered around Dumbledore’s body, McGonagall in the front completely stunned and silent. Harry kneels down at Dumbledore’s side, brushes a hair out of his face and finds the locket, but does not open it. Clutching the locket He starts to cry and Ginny goes and holds him also crying. Then following McGonagall’s lead, everyone lights there wand (I think they all murmur something in unison but I can’t remember what) and slowly raise them as one in the air. Final shot of that scene is from above with all the lighted wands surrounding the tower, Dumbledore, Harry and Ginny.

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177 Comments

BellaSnape

@ Tommy I completely agree with you. I like both Richard Harris and Michael Gambon as Dumbledore. People see the movie for youself, dont be so dependant and gullable about a review. This person is really biased, kind of like the aweful critics at rotten tomatoes. Go to MuggleNet, the person over there gave an unbiased review of what to expect. And still not every little detail is covered in these things, so get a grip on your selves. Jesus. Remember the books are books and the movies are movies. But this adaptation sounds really good so far so hold your horses.

Posted by BellaSnape on September 08, 2008, 06:50 PM report to moderator
sn

It’s terrible that they don’t stick to the books…They “skim” through each scene, and depending on the actors talents to pull it off to make a great movie! It’s got to work both ways. Not just an incredible cast of actors, but the people behind the cameras too! (screenwriters,direstors,producers). They owe it to J.K.Rowling first and foremost to do a better job that this.

Posted by sn on September 08, 2008, 08:46 PM report to moderator
t1111t

You people do know that you’re making all your judgments on a review of a few scenes, albeit important ones, by an obviously slanted reviewer. She took every chance she had to denounce Gambon because he didn’t act exactly the way she had Dumbledore act in her mind. I always thought the original Dumbledore was much too frail and slow and Gambon imbued the movie Dumbledore with the energy I always saw the book character had. I can’t see Richard Harris fighting Ralph Fiennes in OOTP.

But if you’re going to report on the cave scene, report it. Leave the reviewing until the end because you’re giving the reader a biased view.

Posted by t1111t on September 09, 2008, 04:34 AM report to moderator
Kevin

These movies have been getting worse in terms of plot and story since the 4th one came along. In an effort to compact them down, they’ve used silly devices “to move the action along” The scenes of Filch trying to catch them in the room of requirement in Order of the Phoenix were completely annoying.

If, as the writer describes, they show Snape giving away his true connection to Dumbledore, they’ve radically altered several plot points in the forthcoming Deathly Hallows films, which kept the readers guessing as to Snape’s loyalties up until almost the very end of the book.

Perhaps some day, many years down the road, someone will have the ability to do something along the lines of mini-series to remain more true to the books instead of the condensed versions people are getting the current films.

and indeed, Michael Gambon has been a true disappointment as Dumbledore. He has never come near getting close to the character, instead only portraying the angry crankiness he is best known for, without really displaying the both the strength and warmth so clearly present in the the books. Quite unfortunate that Ian McKellan came off of playing Gandalf so close to Richard Harris’ death. He would have made a marvelous Dumbledore and easily assuaged the fans who’ve become so angry at the direction the films are taking

In the end though, fans still have the original books and their own imaginations to continue enjoying these marvelous stories.

Posted by Kevin on September 09, 2008, 09:11 AM report to moderator
steen

can you all stop bagging out Michael Gambon he’s a great actor and dosnt deserve this constant critisism just because he isnt Richard Harris. i think hes a better dumbledore than Harris was

Posted by steen on September 09, 2008, 10:30 AM report to moderator
Kat

One of the things I dislike so much about Gambon’s portrayal is the garb he wears, so drab and boring for such a great wizard, the stupid beard being banded, and I really just loved Harris in the part. It was such a drastic change between them that it was disappointing. Maybe had he started in the roll it I might not feel the same way . However I just feel he overacts the part too much. Too over dramatic. That’s just opinion and not a hate thing. I’m sure he’s a fine actor, I just didn’t care for him in this part is all. It’s almost always hard to see change in actors in a movie or show.

Posted by Kat on September 09, 2008, 12:10 PM report to moderator
aisen

i’m reading this in my office and cried when i got to the part of dumbledore’s death… and my co-worker begin to worry because i was teary eye but strated laughing at me when i told her what it was all about hahahahahaha.

Posted by aisen on September 09, 2008, 05:46 PM report to moderator
Tim

It bugs me as much as the next man that the film can’t be a verbatim re-enactment of the events in the book, but I have to admit, the only way they can do that is with a mini-series that stretches across fourteen… more like 14 seasons. Warner Brothers, are you listening?? Think… kerching $_$!!!!

Posted by Tim on September 09, 2008, 09:08 PM report to moderator
Tim

It bugs me as much as the next man that the film can’t be a verbatim re-enactment of the events in the book, but I have to admit, the only way they can do that is with a mini-series that stretches across seven… more like fourteen seasons. Warner Brothers, are you listening?? Think… kerching $_$!!!!

Posted by Tim on September 09, 2008, 09:10 PM report to moderator
ruth

what I want to know is if there was a scene for the HG break up?

Posted by ruth on September 09, 2008, 10:18 PM report to moderator
SnapesSecretLover

I am shocked there is no Bill.. i really wanted to see Bill attacked by Greyback (not that i liked it but it would of been more like the book and i would of been happier) and there was no ‘Dumbledore’s Funeral’ scene?

Also, i am scared to see the scenes with Dumbledore Gambon kills my image of Dumbledore =(. And I’m disappointed that Dumbledore doesn’t curse harry so he can’t move instead of making him sit there and do nothing (the harry in the books would NOT to that) then Snape comes and harry practically watches him kill Dumbledore and just sit there? Disappointing.

One last thing, so about the Horcruxes does it show all of it (like the pensive scenes) except about the Gaunts? or just a selected few?

Posted by SnapesSecretLover on September 09, 2008, 11:48 PM report to moderator
Uglystick

For the last frickin’ time, the Snape-telling-Harry-To-Shut-Up moment was a stroke of GENIUS. It makes the betrayal more brutal because Harry thinks he’s letting Snape go and help Dumby. Remember, Harry trusts Snape when times look their darkest (end of OOTP), and so he thinks that Snape is still on their side. And then BOOM, Dumby is thrown off of the roof. It makes Snape look like even MORE of a two-timing jackass.

Posted by Uglystick on September 10, 2008, 03:05 AM report to moderator
Carla

Great report. I really look forward to the film. Almost every descriptions matches completely with my expectations. It is a pity that some characters are missing, but I really like it that there are scenes with the original book texts. Great that Hermione becomes her ‘book’ self. However, I have a question to Rachee, is it know how long the film is (in minutes)?

Posted by Carla on September 10, 2008, 07:41 AM report to moderator
Ed Tom

I remeber seeing a picture from HBP film with harry and dumbledore in Horsmede, though this review fails to mention this, it actually states that they never even apparate to hogsmeade. very suspicious, hmmm…...

Posted by Ed Tom on September 10, 2008, 08:24 AM report to moderator
HermioneGrangerTwin

Michael Gambon always screws up the part, because he refuses to read the books. He has no idea what everything means to us, the fans. So, to Michael Gambon, I give a gesture to which Mrs. Weasley would scold.

Anyway, though, the scenes sound awesome, and I can’t wait for the movie!

Posted by HermioneGrangerTwin on September 10, 2008, 10:22 AM report to moderator
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