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Details on Cave Scene, Events on Astronomy Tower from HBP Screening

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Posted by: Sue
September 07, 2008, 02:00 PM

Hang on everyone, we have another treat this morning! In addition to the first report from the test screening of “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” which took place yesterday in Chicago, TLC reader Rachezee sent us a new report today. This new report goes into great detail on the dramatic Cave Scene with the Inferi, as well as the pivotal events on the Astronomy tower with Snape, Draco and Dumbledore. Again a MAJOR SPOILER CAUTION is given, scroll down to read.

Thanks so much Rach!

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LAST CHANCE BEFORE REPORT

I am so sorry everyone, in my haste to write my review I completely forgot the cave scene! So here it is-

Dumbledore meets Harry at the top of the Astronomy tower and they apparate to outside the cave. As they are leaving Harry is surprised that that they can apparate from within the Hogwarts grounds, and Dumbledore says something along the lines of “That’s the beauty of being headmaster.”

The scene they apparate to, despite being slightly unfinished was nonetheless absolutely breathtaking. Cliffs and huge waves dominate the scene. Dumbledore finds their way to the anti-chamber and slits his hand (for you star trek fans – he does it in a Klingon way – straight across the inside of his hand). The wall crumbles away and Dumbledore explains to Harry that Voldemort would have set up defenses around the Horcrux.

The cave is very different than what I had pictured and than all the fan art I have seen, but still a chilling and amazing sight. It reminded me a bit of a normal cave mixed with the ice crystal place Superman goes to in one of his movies. The whole cave is a vast formation of huge crystals, jagged and rough, jutting out from the ceiling walls and floor.

They make their way to the water and Dumbledore cautions Harry not to touch it and he starts to raise the boat with magic. Then he has Harry reel it in with a very heavy long chain.

The island is a formation of crystals as is the basin. Now the only really cheesy and unspectacular thing about this whole scene is that they use a large white clam shell partially imbedded in a small rock to scoop up the potion. In my opinion it looked rather silly. Dumbledore tell Harry to force him to drink the potion and Gambon once again does a slightly better than usual job being forced to drink the potion.

At one point towards the end you can very softly hear Dumbledore mumble something like “please don’t hurt them, it’s all my fault.” But it was almost inaudible and I doubt anyone who has not read the book caught the line at all. Then after the last scoop is drunk, Gambon kind of goes back to his rather poor, unresearched acting and says with far too much strength. “Harry, Water.”

But first Harry goes back to the Basin and recovers the locket and in the background we can hear Dumbledore saying “Harry, water” getting slightly weaker each time he says it. Harry attempts to fill the basin with water the aguamenti charm, but can not get the scoop the water up with that silly shell. After trying several times and Dumbledore starting to collapse he goes to the lake to fill it there.

Suddenly the light that was emanating from the island with the basin goes out, and Harry lights his wand (most unfortunately with the non-existent spell luminous-maximus, or whatever it was he used in the beginning of the third movie), and slowly reaches down to scoop up the lake water. The moment he touches it a hand reaches out and grabs Harry’s wrist. The whole audience jumped in fear. Harry tries to fend off the inferi with all the spells we hear him try in the books. But in the end he is pulled down into the water.

Before I go on I must say the Inferi scene was one of the most spectacular of this movie. They looked a bit like the newer version of the Dementor, but much more human shaped and brownish. I fear I am not describing them well, because they were truly a scary site to see. The camera angles captured the scene of Harry trying hopelessly to defend himself and Dumbledore from them as they clambered onto the island from all different angles and the sheer number of them eventually overwhelms Harry and he is pulled down deep into the lake.

While Harry is underwater the view we have is from below him looking up and we can see the whole island from below as well. Suddenly the Inferi holding Harry releases him and he swims up to a surface covered in ferocious flame. The “ring of fire” Dumbledore conjures is an unbelievable sight, far more than I think anyone pictured in the books, but incredibly spectacular. Harry and Dumbledore climb back in the boat and the scene then cuts to Harry helping Dumbledore through the cave.

The every so anticipated lines of (I am paraphrasing) “Don’t worry sir, I’ll get us back” and Dumbledore replying “I am not worried, I am with you” are said. Executed very well by Radcliffe though rather poorly in my opinion by Gambon who clearly does not know the significant emotional value we fans know those lines have.

They then apparate back to the top of the astronomy tower. There is no dark mark in the sky. But as Dumbledore says he needs Severus not Madame Pomfrey they hear a commotion and Dumbledore orders Harry to go and hide and not come out or interfere. A command the book Harry would never have followed, but that the movie Harry would obey. Harry goes underneath the wooden floor of the tower where Dumbledore is standing where he can see everything through large gaps between the wood slates. Draco arrives and Tom does a brilliant job as a boy trying to be fierce and terrified at the same time. Some lines from the book are rather butchered by Dumbledore saying things like “Draco, you are not an assassin.” Then the Death Eaters arrive all in masks except Bellatrix and Greyback. Bellatrix urges Draco to do it though his wand lowers slightly.

Meanwhile under the floor Harry who is watching terrified with his wand at the ready is sneaked up on by Snape, whose wand is also out and puts his finger to his lips to make sure Harry stays quiet. My description does not quite capture that scene well enough, but I was surprised to find my heart ripping, perhaps because I knew what was going to happen when Snape appeared there. Snape quietly appears above, and Dumbledore, with far too much strength says “Severus Please.”

And Snape does the Avada Kadavra, and Bellatrix is ecstatic. The scene with Dumbledore being lifted into the air was unfortunately unfinished because we see him up in the air and then apparently falling down the side of the tower, but there was no motion yet. He is stationary in both scenes. I am sure more special effects will be added later. Then Bellatrix casts the Dark Mark (another amazing updated special effect with a black smoke skull and snake tongue). The Deatheaters all run out, destroying a bit of the castle in a euphoric tantrum along the way. There is no battle inside Hogwarts and the only one to chase them is Harry.

There was no Amycus or Alecto anywhere I could see. Oh, and there is no Rosmerta either. Forgot to mention that before.

Anyway, the Deatheaters set Hagrid’s hut on fire and the scene I already described happens between Harry and Snape. Harry then returns to find the whole school gathered around Dumbledore’s body, McGonagall in the front completely stunned and silent. Harry kneels down at Dumbledore’s side, brushes a hair out of his face and finds the locket, but does not open it. Clutching the locket He starts to cry and Ginny goes and holds him also crying. Then following McGonagall’s lead, everyone lights there wand (I think they all murmur something in unison but I can’t remember what) and slowly raise them as one in the air. Final shot of that scene is from above with all the lighted wands surrounding the tower, Dumbledore, Harry and Ginny.

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177 Comments

Uglystick

“Michael Gambon always screws up the part, because he refuses to read the books. He has no idea what everything means to us, the fans. So, to Michael Gambon, I give a gesture to which Mrs. Weasley would scold.”

Yeah, neither did Harris. In fact, he refused point-blank to read them.

And I think the picture you saw, Ed Tom, was of Dumby and Potter’s journey to Slughorn’s house.

Posted by Uglystick on September 10, 2008, 01:09 PM report to moderator
Harry Loony

i just wanted to tell you you ” fans” that a fan is not someone who just bitches and whines at every mistake made, but a fan is someone who is enjoying every single event or happening in his fan base… The Harry Potter phenom. is about to end so i believe you should try to enjoy the last moments of it… Bitching and whining won’t change anything except perhaps getting the press’ attention and getting our bad side out… Whining will not change the movies so get over yourself and enjoy it while you can and if you truly don’t care about HP then be my guest and don’t go to the last three movies…that will spare us the negativity!!

Posted by Harry Loony on September 10, 2008, 01:34 PM report to moderator
Harry Loony

Guys if you could kindly revisit the special features of the 2nd and 3rd movie, you will find out that JK is present in the writing of the script and that she is aware of every little detail change and that she is also aware of the cuts in the movie…SHE IS IN ON IT!!!!

Posted by Harry Loony on September 10, 2008, 02:47 PM report to moderator
Andrew

There is something seriously wrong with the ending. For starters, how does Draco know Dumbledore apparates into the Astronomy tower to meet him there? Do you mean to tell me he happens to be in or near the tower at the moment Dumbledore arrives? There’s no reason for him to know if Dumbledore is apparating. As we know from the book, Dumbledore is lured to Hogwarts by the Dark Mark and thats how Draco knows where to find him.

Second, why does Draco spend a whole year fixing the cabinet to allow Death Eaters into Hogwarts if they aren’t even going to battle? Did he bring them there for moral support? Honestly…

Harry just sitting under the floor watching this happen to Dumbledore wouldn’t fly – it’s totally uncharacteristic of Harry. If he’s not immobilized, he’d jump out to help Dumbledore. And if Snape walks past Harry, why doesn’t he quickly explain things? He would no doubt know that Harry would stir trouble immediately after killing Dumbledore – and if Harry is running after Draco, Snape, Bellatrix, and maybe some other death eaters by himself, Snape would have to figure Harry would get injured.

It just seems that this ending (especially if they exlude RAB and the funeral) dramatically weakens much of the Deathly Hallows plot.

Posted by Andrew on September 10, 2008, 04:32 PM report to moderator
Sorcererke

It’s weird but I’m really pleased with the changes of some scenes. Normally I hate every change they do, like in the previous films (especially giving Nevill the tasks of Dobby * AAARRCCHHH) but now the changes look like some sort of alternatives to the real scenes described in the books. But I’m still bothered with the idea of that shell-thingy in the cave. What the F**!!! That’s stupid. But for the rest, like the Snape and Harry scene (or shot?) in the Astronomy Tower etc…, I’m really pleased. Although I’m bumped there won’t be a funeral scene.

Posted by Sorcererke on September 10, 2008, 04:37 PM report to moderator
Rachelle

I’m,frankly,amazed,that after all the awful changes and screw-ups we’re hearing about in these reports, some people consider the most important issue to be whether one of Ron’s lines has been cut or not. I mean,forget that there’s no battle,that Dumbledore STILL sucks,that there’s no funeral,that Dumbledore’s death is apparently going to be awfully done,as is the end scene,no,forget all that,of course the most important thing is that one of Ron’s lines is still in the film.

Posted by Rachelle on September 10, 2008, 07:34 PM report to moderator
Harry Loony

Guys why don’t you send your complaints about the movie to the same guys to whom u sent complaints about delaying the release date of the movie?? That’s a thought!

Posted by Harry Loony on September 10, 2008, 10:00 PM report to moderator
Anna

OMG!! jeez i wish this came out sooner,im really disapointed tho that the funeral isnt in,thats a VERY important scene in my opinion oh well….i guess i live…maybe lol

Posted by Anna on September 11, 2008, 01:37 PM report to moderator
antoniafreak

well i believe that instead of Michael Gambon they should really have had Ian McKellen(Gandalf from Lord of The Rings) play Dumbledore… what i do is picture in every movie(apart from the first two) and every book Ian McKellen as Dumbledore and i’m happy!! :P

Posted by antoniafreak on September 11, 2008, 07:00 PM report to moderator
zoe

sounds sweet! im not in harry potter mode yet tho, let me get over twilight and then this will be more exciting to me lol :]

Posted by zoe on October 18, 2008, 09:18 AM report to moderator
kira902k

yet again, im posting this comment almost 4 months late, but oh well.
although the movie still sounds HORRIBLE from your other report, it does sound like they’ve done these scenes MOSTLY right, although i definitely don’t like Gambon either. as a mtter of fact, im not really a fan of radcliffe either, but hopefully he does okay here.

Posted by kira902k on December 31, 2008, 05:46 PM report to moderator
Cy

"ok everyone knows Gambon is a terrible dumbledore"

Actually, everyone doesn’t. Everyone is entitled to form their own judgement regarding an actor’s capability and plausibility in character. It is not helpful to ignore this basic premise while reporting on a movie that no-one else will have an opportunity to evaluate for another six months.

I am one of those unfortunates who cannot conceive how Harris might have played any of Dumbledore’s material from PoA onward, since he was obviously moribund in the first two movies, in which he had very little to do. For many of us, one of the chief pleasures of the later films has been a performance reflecting this wonderful character’s complex energies, by an actor equal to the task. The assertion that Gambon ‘clearly does not know the significant emotional value’ of Dumbledore’s utterances, unlike ‘we fans’, implies that anyone who finds his interpretation persuasive is not a proper fan. I resent that.

Posted by Cy on January 22, 2009, 09:21 AM report to moderator
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