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Details on Cave Scene, Events on Astronomy Tower from HBP Screening

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Posted by: Sue
September 07, 2008, 02:00 PM

Hang on everyone, we have another treat this morning! In addition to the first report from the test screening of “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” which took place yesterday in Chicago, TLC reader Rachezee sent us a new report today. This new report goes into great detail on the dramatic Cave Scene with the Inferi, as well as the pivotal events on the Astronomy tower with Snape, Draco and Dumbledore. Again a MAJOR SPOILER CAUTION is given, scroll down to read.

Thanks so much Rach!

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I am so sorry everyone, in my haste to write my review I completely forgot the cave scene! So here it is-

Dumbledore meets Harry at the top of the Astronomy tower and they apparate to outside the cave. As they are leaving Harry is surprised that that they can apparate from within the Hogwarts grounds, and Dumbledore says something along the lines of “That’s the beauty of being headmaster.”

The scene they apparate to, despite being slightly unfinished was nonetheless absolutely breathtaking. Cliffs and huge waves dominate the scene. Dumbledore finds their way to the anti-chamber and slits his hand (for you star trek fans – he does it in a Klingon way – straight across the inside of his hand). The wall crumbles away and Dumbledore explains to Harry that Voldemort would have set up defenses around the Horcrux.

The cave is very different than what I had pictured and than all the fan art I have seen, but still a chilling and amazing sight. It reminded me a bit of a normal cave mixed with the ice crystal place Superman goes to in one of his movies. The whole cave is a vast formation of huge crystals, jagged and rough, jutting out from the ceiling walls and floor.

They make their way to the water and Dumbledore cautions Harry not to touch it and he starts to raise the boat with magic. Then he has Harry reel it in with a very heavy long chain.

The island is a formation of crystals as is the basin. Now the only really cheesy and unspectacular thing about this whole scene is that they use a large white clam shell partially imbedded in a small rock to scoop up the potion. In my opinion it looked rather silly. Dumbledore tell Harry to force him to drink the potion and Gambon once again does a slightly better than usual job being forced to drink the potion.

At one point towards the end you can very softly hear Dumbledore mumble something like “please don’t hurt them, it’s all my fault.” But it was almost inaudible and I doubt anyone who has not read the book caught the line at all. Then after the last scoop is drunk, Gambon kind of goes back to his rather poor, unresearched acting and says with far too much strength. “Harry, Water.”

But first Harry goes back to the Basin and recovers the locket and in the background we can hear Dumbledore saying “Harry, water” getting slightly weaker each time he says it. Harry attempts to fill the basin with water the aguamenti charm, but can not get the scoop the water up with that silly shell. After trying several times and Dumbledore starting to collapse he goes to the lake to fill it there.

Suddenly the light that was emanating from the island with the basin goes out, and Harry lights his wand (most unfortunately with the non-existent spell luminous-maximus, or whatever it was he used in the beginning of the third movie), and slowly reaches down to scoop up the lake water. The moment he touches it a hand reaches out and grabs Harry’s wrist. The whole audience jumped in fear. Harry tries to fend off the inferi with all the spells we hear him try in the books. But in the end he is pulled down into the water.

Before I go on I must say the Inferi scene was one of the most spectacular of this movie. They looked a bit like the newer version of the Dementor, but much more human shaped and brownish. I fear I am not describing them well, because they were truly a scary site to see. The camera angles captured the scene of Harry trying hopelessly to defend himself and Dumbledore from them as they clambered onto the island from all different angles and the sheer number of them eventually overwhelms Harry and he is pulled down deep into the lake.

While Harry is underwater the view we have is from below him looking up and we can see the whole island from below as well. Suddenly the Inferi holding Harry releases him and he swims up to a surface covered in ferocious flame. The “ring of fire” Dumbledore conjures is an unbelievable sight, far more than I think anyone pictured in the books, but incredibly spectacular. Harry and Dumbledore climb back in the boat and the scene then cuts to Harry helping Dumbledore through the cave.

The every so anticipated lines of (I am paraphrasing) “Don’t worry sir, I’ll get us back” and Dumbledore replying “I am not worried, I am with you” are said. Executed very well by Radcliffe though rather poorly in my opinion by Gambon who clearly does not know the significant emotional value we fans know those lines have.

They then apparate back to the top of the astronomy tower. There is no dark mark in the sky. But as Dumbledore says he needs Severus not Madame Pomfrey they hear a commotion and Dumbledore orders Harry to go and hide and not come out or interfere. A command the book Harry would never have followed, but that the movie Harry would obey. Harry goes underneath the wooden floor of the tower where Dumbledore is standing where he can see everything through large gaps between the wood slates. Draco arrives and Tom does a brilliant job as a boy trying to be fierce and terrified at the same time. Some lines from the book are rather butchered by Dumbledore saying things like “Draco, you are not an assassin.” Then the Death Eaters arrive all in masks except Bellatrix and Greyback. Bellatrix urges Draco to do it though his wand lowers slightly.

Meanwhile under the floor Harry who is watching terrified with his wand at the ready is sneaked up on by Snape, whose wand is also out and puts his finger to his lips to make sure Harry stays quiet. My description does not quite capture that scene well enough, but I was surprised to find my heart ripping, perhaps because I knew what was going to happen when Snape appeared there. Snape quietly appears above, and Dumbledore, with far too much strength says “Severus Please.”

And Snape does the Avada Kadavra, and Bellatrix is ecstatic. The scene with Dumbledore being lifted into the air was unfortunately unfinished because we see him up in the air and then apparently falling down the side of the tower, but there was no motion yet. He is stationary in both scenes. I am sure more special effects will be added later. Then Bellatrix casts the Dark Mark (another amazing updated special effect with a black smoke skull and snake tongue). The Deatheaters all run out, destroying a bit of the castle in a euphoric tantrum along the way. There is no battle inside Hogwarts and the only one to chase them is Harry.

There was no Amycus or Alecto anywhere I could see. Oh, and there is no Rosmerta either. Forgot to mention that before.

Anyway, the Deatheaters set Hagrid’s hut on fire and the scene I already described happens between Harry and Snape. Harry then returns to find the whole school gathered around Dumbledore’s body, McGonagall in the front completely stunned and silent. Harry kneels down at Dumbledore’s side, brushes a hair out of his face and finds the locket, but does not open it. Clutching the locket He starts to cry and Ginny goes and holds him also crying. Then following McGonagall’s lead, everyone lights there wand (I think they all murmur something in unison but I can’t remember what) and slowly raise them as one in the air. Final shot of that scene is from above with all the lighted wands surrounding the tower, Dumbledore, Harry and Ginny.

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177 Comments

Amanda, South Africa

To John who gets sick and tired of fans critisizing Michael Camdon. Well newsflash. SIR Michael has admitted that he is “ALLOWED” a lot of freedom in his portrayal of Dumbledore, including what he wears. I think he sucks big time and what sucks even more is that directors allow the SIR to have so much freedom because he really spoils it for me and so many others. So John, sorry but I join the group that makes u sick and tired.

Posted by Amanda, South Africa on September 07, 2008, 04:07 PM report to moderator
mph

I’ve always loved Gambon’s Dumbledore… I personnaly think he’s much more fun and alive that Richard Harris, who made Dumbledore look like a tired old man, without any energy left… I really can’t picture him fighting Voldemort in OotP. I love the fact that Snape comes to see Harry before killing Dumbledore. I don’t agree with someone who said it makes Snape’s allegiances clear – it will make him look like a filthy git who until the very last moment, pretends to be on Harry’s side… On the other side, it’s really disappointing that there’s no Hogwarts battle… the OotP battle felt so rushed and akward. I hope they get the DH battle right…

Posted by mph on September 07, 2008, 04:08 PM report to moderator
Christine

Seriously, if Gambon does not make me cry, I will make someone cry in the theater by hitting them furiously! I am hoping beyond hope that he pulls off a good performance. Is he even an actor? Seriously. I’m so mad! Please Gambon, pull off an amazingggg performance as Dumbledore! I’ve never had that much of a problem with Gambon until I read this review. Yes, his voice is much deeper and more fierce, but I thought that after he read the script of HBP he’d be much softer with his voice… I guess not! :(

But anyway, the whole thing sounds amazing! The crystal island makes me pretty disappointed – don’t they ever get anything correct? The shell part is pretty stupid too. I mean, it wouldn’t hurt to have DD conjure a goblet, right?!

Posted by Christine on September 07, 2008, 04:08 PM report to moderator
Stephanie

Yes, Gambon is an actor. He was not hired to play the part because he sucks. He was hired because he’s a fine actor.

Posted by Stephanie on September 07, 2008, 04:20 PM report to moderator
James

I’m just amazed peope actually think Harris was GOOD! By any standards, Richard Harris was an appalling Dumbledore. Tired, sleepy, lacking Dumbledore’s great energy and sparkle, zero eccentricity, and no sense of any real depth to his character. His line readings were also quite odd at times, and his woeful performance in CoS ruined the tension of many scenes in that film.

Gambon is by far the better actor – any decent film or theatre critic will tell you as much – and by any reasonable standards, he plays by far the more effective Dumbledore, in every way.

Fans are funny sometimes. :p

Posted by James on September 07, 2008, 04:21 PM report to moderator
Meghan

Good review, but I wish you had left your personal opinion of Michael Gambon out of it.

Posted by Meghan on September 07, 2008, 04:22 PM report to moderator
M Jones

The awful and totally disinterested Gambon may ruin it for us all I fear.

Posted by M Jones on September 07, 2008, 04:24 PM report to moderator
Scully

@ Ticked HP fan – I am a true fan of the books but unlike morons like you, I appreciate these movies as adaptions of JKR’s fabulous story, as I believe she herself does.

Posted by Scully on September 07, 2008, 04:25 PM report to moderator
Lada

I loved Michael Gambon’s Dumbledore, especially in OOTP, can’t wait to see him in this new film. He is completely ‘my Dumbledore’, I see him when I read the books. I don’t see any need to be so disrespectful towards amazing, hardworking actor. He surely does the best he can in portreying the role. That his protreyal can’t fit with EVERYONES idea of Dumbledore is inevitable, especially so, that he took over from original actor. He has dificult task and he is doing great job.

Posted by Lada on September 07, 2008, 04:27 PM report to moderator
Jo

Ginny holding Harry while he cries!!! Ginny holding Harry while he cries!!! Ginny holding Harry while he cries!!!

OMG it better not be cut! These scenes sound great!

Posted by Jo on September 07, 2008, 04:28 PM report to moderator
Helios Lightra

Sounds like it was completely butchered.

Posted by Helios Lightra on September 07, 2008, 04:30 PM report to moderator
Melisa

What happens after that scene though???!!! Please don’t tell me that is the end of the movie?!!!! Do they do dumbledore’s funeral or not? PLEASE TELL US! Sorry, I’m just a little panicked at thispoint. They always cut out important scenes from the ends of all the books. They need to set up the fact that Harry isn’t coming back next year and that he is breaking up with Ginny.

Posted by Melisa on September 07, 2008, 04:32 PM report to moderator
Stephanie

M Jones - IMHO Harris seemed more disinterested than Gambon. With all due respect to the deceased, he acted like cardboard.

Posted by Stephanie on September 07, 2008, 04:35 PM report to moderator
Anne

That’s cool of her to give us a review, but I feel like all the personal hate toward Gambon was completely unnecessary. Why does everyone hate Gambon so much anyway? He’s a fantastic Dumbledore. Much better than Harris, who, no offense, sounded like a Dumbledore who was about to keel over.

Posted by Anne on September 07, 2008, 04:42 PM report to moderator
Eva Hedwig

Well well, more incoherent boring stuff. If they go on like this, WB should call their movies any name but not HP, as this has almost nothing to do with the books.

I don’t like Gambon either, I see him like an advanced alcoholic, making a lot of fool of himself, beliving that he is “great and powerful” but after a few more cups of Whisky he would collaps on a park bank.

How can he disapparat from the A. tower but not conjure a goblet ???

Go on WB, bring out more of this stuff and the cinema will be completely empty

Posted by Eva Hedwig on September 07, 2008, 04:58 PM report to moderator
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