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Details on Cave Scene, Events on Astronomy Tower from HBP Screening

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Posted by: Sue
September 07, 2008, 02:00 PM

Hang on everyone, we have another treat this morning! In addition to the first report from the test screening of “Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince” which took place yesterday in Chicago, TLC reader Rachezee sent us a new report today. This new report goes into great detail on the dramatic Cave Scene with the Inferi, as well as the pivotal events on the Astronomy tower with Snape, Draco and Dumbledore. Again a MAJOR SPOILER CAUTION is given, scroll down to read.

Thanks so much Rach!

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I am so sorry everyone, in my haste to write my review I completely forgot the cave scene! So here it is-

Dumbledore meets Harry at the top of the Astronomy tower and they apparate to outside the cave. As they are leaving Harry is surprised that that they can apparate from within the Hogwarts grounds, and Dumbledore says something along the lines of “That’s the beauty of being headmaster.”

The scene they apparate to, despite being slightly unfinished was nonetheless absolutely breathtaking. Cliffs and huge waves dominate the scene. Dumbledore finds their way to the anti-chamber and slits his hand (for you star trek fans – he does it in a Klingon way – straight across the inside of his hand). The wall crumbles away and Dumbledore explains to Harry that Voldemort would have set up defenses around the Horcrux.

The cave is very different than what I had pictured and than all the fan art I have seen, but still a chilling and amazing sight. It reminded me a bit of a normal cave mixed with the ice crystal place Superman goes to in one of his movies. The whole cave is a vast formation of huge crystals, jagged and rough, jutting out from the ceiling walls and floor.

They make their way to the water and Dumbledore cautions Harry not to touch it and he starts to raise the boat with magic. Then he has Harry reel it in with a very heavy long chain.

The island is a formation of crystals as is the basin. Now the only really cheesy and unspectacular thing about this whole scene is that they use a large white clam shell partially imbedded in a small rock to scoop up the potion. In my opinion it looked rather silly. Dumbledore tell Harry to force him to drink the potion and Gambon once again does a slightly better than usual job being forced to drink the potion.

At one point towards the end you can very softly hear Dumbledore mumble something like “please don’t hurt them, it’s all my fault.” But it was almost inaudible and I doubt anyone who has not read the book caught the line at all. Then after the last scoop is drunk, Gambon kind of goes back to his rather poor, unresearched acting and says with far too much strength. “Harry, Water.”

But first Harry goes back to the Basin and recovers the locket and in the background we can hear Dumbledore saying “Harry, water” getting slightly weaker each time he says it. Harry attempts to fill the basin with water the aguamenti charm, but can not get the scoop the water up with that silly shell. After trying several times and Dumbledore starting to collapse he goes to the lake to fill it there.

Suddenly the light that was emanating from the island with the basin goes out, and Harry lights his wand (most unfortunately with the non-existent spell luminous-maximus, or whatever it was he used in the beginning of the third movie), and slowly reaches down to scoop up the lake water. The moment he touches it a hand reaches out and grabs Harry’s wrist. The whole audience jumped in fear. Harry tries to fend off the inferi with all the spells we hear him try in the books. But in the end he is pulled down into the water.

Before I go on I must say the Inferi scene was one of the most spectacular of this movie. They looked a bit like the newer version of the Dementor, but much more human shaped and brownish. I fear I am not describing them well, because they were truly a scary site to see. The camera angles captured the scene of Harry trying hopelessly to defend himself and Dumbledore from them as they clambered onto the island from all different angles and the sheer number of them eventually overwhelms Harry and he is pulled down deep into the lake.

While Harry is underwater the view we have is from below him looking up and we can see the whole island from below as well. Suddenly the Inferi holding Harry releases him and he swims up to a surface covered in ferocious flame. The “ring of fire” Dumbledore conjures is an unbelievable sight, far more than I think anyone pictured in the books, but incredibly spectacular. Harry and Dumbledore climb back in the boat and the scene then cuts to Harry helping Dumbledore through the cave.

The every so anticipated lines of (I am paraphrasing) “Don’t worry sir, I’ll get us back” and Dumbledore replying “I am not worried, I am with you” are said. Executed very well by Radcliffe though rather poorly in my opinion by Gambon who clearly does not know the significant emotional value we fans know those lines have.

They then apparate back to the top of the astronomy tower. There is no dark mark in the sky. But as Dumbledore says he needs Severus not Madame Pomfrey they hear a commotion and Dumbledore orders Harry to go and hide and not come out or interfere. A command the book Harry would never have followed, but that the movie Harry would obey. Harry goes underneath the wooden floor of the tower where Dumbledore is standing where he can see everything through large gaps between the wood slates. Draco arrives and Tom does a brilliant job as a boy trying to be fierce and terrified at the same time. Some lines from the book are rather butchered by Dumbledore saying things like “Draco, you are not an assassin.” Then the Death Eaters arrive all in masks except Bellatrix and Greyback. Bellatrix urges Draco to do it though his wand lowers slightly.

Meanwhile under the floor Harry who is watching terrified with his wand at the ready is sneaked up on by Snape, whose wand is also out and puts his finger to his lips to make sure Harry stays quiet. My description does not quite capture that scene well enough, but I was surprised to find my heart ripping, perhaps because I knew what was going to happen when Snape appeared there. Snape quietly appears above, and Dumbledore, with far too much strength says “Severus Please.”

And Snape does the Avada Kadavra, and Bellatrix is ecstatic. The scene with Dumbledore being lifted into the air was unfortunately unfinished because we see him up in the air and then apparently falling down the side of the tower, but there was no motion yet. He is stationary in both scenes. I am sure more special effects will be added later. Then Bellatrix casts the Dark Mark (another amazing updated special effect with a black smoke skull and snake tongue). The Deatheaters all run out, destroying a bit of the castle in a euphoric tantrum along the way. There is no battle inside Hogwarts and the only one to chase them is Harry.

There was no Amycus or Alecto anywhere I could see. Oh, and there is no Rosmerta either. Forgot to mention that before.

Anyway, the Deatheaters set Hagrid’s hut on fire and the scene I already described happens between Harry and Snape. Harry then returns to find the whole school gathered around Dumbledore’s body, McGonagall in the front completely stunned and silent. Harry kneels down at Dumbledore’s side, brushes a hair out of his face and finds the locket, but does not open it. Clutching the locket He starts to cry and Ginny goes and holds him also crying. Then following McGonagall’s lead, everyone lights there wand (I think they all murmur something in unison but I can’t remember what) and slowly raise them as one in the air. Final shot of that scene is from above with all the lighted wands surrounding the tower, Dumbledore, Harry and Ginny.

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177 Comments

stephedalus

Thank you, Rachezee, for sharing this information with us. The movie sounds as though it will deviate from the books in the details but remain emotionally loyal to it. The climax certainly sounds as though, to say the least, it will be incredibly emotionally gripping and poignant.

Posted by stephedalus on September 07, 2008, 09:47 PM report to moderator
Dudley

It looks like we can continue to be smug in our knowledge that the films will never be as good as the books. In regards to the lack of RAB, maybe they will skip the whole Kreacher/Mundungus/RAB storyline by turning the locket from HBP into THE horcrux locket. The trio can still travel across the country with the locket around their necks because they haven’t learnt how to open it, but the movie makers get to skip the entire locket storyline in DH. This would then mean no Ministry of Magic and no return of Umbridge.

Posted by Dudley on September 07, 2008, 10:03 PM report to moderator
Steve K

Dudley- I hope you’re wrong. I can’t believe they would cut all of that out, but then again…

Posted by Steve K on September 07, 2008, 10:06 PM report to moderator
Alex

This is ridiculous. Im as much if not more of a Harry Potter fan than most out there, but i cant understand how people can still be excited about the movies. They have been crap. Warner Bros is a bunch of greedy, soulless deatheaters. Im sick of them. they never make the movies any where near as good as they could be. Maybe its just Steve Kloves’s fault, that moron couldnt write a good screenplay to save his life. Seriously part of me wonders if he enjoys effing it all up. Now im not saying i wont go see the movie, God help me i cant help myself, but its just so pathetic!! They dont even care at all. Not even after they have made more money than most of us can dream of, its never enough, they could never throw us a bone and even try to make a decent movie, thats accurate to the books. Theyre taking advantage of the fans, and i for one am sick of it.

Posted by Alex on September 07, 2008, 10:41 PM report to moderator
Peeves_89

In regard to the critizism of Gambon, I can’t think of any actor who would really fit the role of Dumbledore 100 %. But with that said, Gambdon has done some really weak performances in the last two films. However, when he first replaced Harries in POA, I actually thought he did a great job. Especially in the scene when he leaves Harry and Hermoine in the hospital ving. The look on his face and the way he delivers his line there really captures the essense of Dumbledore from the book. Just as eccentric, while at the same time having that bright sparkle in his eyes. Unfortunatly, I have yet to see that side of Gambon’s Dumbledore in the past two films. GOF was, as have been pointed out before, especially bad. But that might just as well been Mike Newille’s foult. What I don’t understand, is why Gambon’s acting has become that bad, when he in my opinion did a great Dumbledore in POA. Like the scene where he welcomes the students to another year at Hogwarts. Spot on. Well, I guess you can’t have it all…

Posted by Peeves_89 on September 07, 2008, 10:56 PM report to moderator
jennifer

dude they changed so many parts from the book…i knew they were gonna do dat but it kinda suxs…especially the battle at the end in hogwarts i was really looking forward in seeing dat…but i guess it will make the last battle in Deathly Hallows seem more interesting….

Posted by jennifer on September 07, 2008, 11:04 PM report to moderator
Aleksandra

Ok guys, you’re all going to see the movie in the end, so stop complaining until you see it. I’m also disappointed about some things that are cut, but that’s it. We will just have to wait and see it. I hope that it will be great still…

Posted by Aleksandra on September 07, 2008, 11:04 PM report to moderator
HAL

Until everyone has actually seen it, maybe you should hold back any criticisms.

Posted by HAL on September 07, 2008, 11:05 PM report to moderator
christine

i really feel sorry for the people who haven’t read the book. they’re missing so much information and all that they’re watching now is rather uninformative and surely inaccurate. and again, i can’t believe that they’ve done that to harry in the astronomy tower, we all know that harry would risk his life even for dumbledore. “dumbledore’s man through and through”!!! and just imagine the hurt and agony on harry’s part in the book when dumbledore was killed and in the movie his just hiding without doing anything? argh!

Posted by christine on September 07, 2008, 11:08 PM report to moderator
bella vita

Dudley don’t give them any ideas. Unfortunately while I would be angry, I hate to say I wouldn’t be surprised if they did try something like that and cut out the whole ministry scene. If they did go that route though, part one of DH definitely wouldn’t have enough action for the “average movie-goer”, and we all know thats who WB is always worried about, not us fans. So hopefully they will keep that in mind and not cut that part out. However, come to think of it there was no Mudungus or mention of him at all in OOTP so even if they do keep the whole Kreacher to Umbridge part they will either have to think of a way to introduce Mundungus and a new story for how he got the locket or they can cut him and have to come up with a totally different story for the locket getting from Kreacher to Umbridge.

Posted by bella vita on September 07, 2008, 11:10 PM report to moderator
Mik

I don’t get the scene with Snape and Harry! Isn’t that going to confuse things in movie 7 when Snape is supposed to be the “bad guy” until the end of the movie?! *says to self… “just breath, we can get through this debacle, it’s only a movie” *

Posted by Mik on September 07, 2008, 11:34 PM report to moderator
Harry Loony

Negative + Negative = bad bad spirit!! You know something i learned from the Secret : keep saying the series are crap the movies are s@#$ and they will be!!! I mean can’t you people come to realise that the movies are DIFFERENT and uber great in their dimension while the books are prefect in their dimension!!!! SEE THE MOVIE WITH AN OPEN MIND AND STOP CRITICIZING WB, IT’S JUST A COMPANY WHO WANTS TO DELIVER THE BOOKS ON SCREEN!!! stay positive people, it’s not the end of the world you know!! When did people become so picky?? Honestly, the Lord of The Rings fan base is much more cheery and up beat and don’t say it’s because the movies were JUST like the books because some of the fans hated the movies as well as some HP fans here do!!

Posted by Harry Loony on September 08, 2008, 12:01 AM report to moderator
Dudley

I know bella vita, I’m sorry :) .... but if they make the locket from HBP the actual Horcrux then there is no need to include the RAB storyline because the lockets would not have been swapped. Although there is a lot of action in the Ministry scenes, I could see the directors etc not wanting such a long scene with the trio under the influence of Polyjuice. But yeah, I might stop typing because the more I think of it, the more convinced I am that they could do something like this.

Posted by Dudley on September 08, 2008, 12:33 AM report to moderator
stella8h8chang

I don’t mind when they make big changes (PoA is my favourite, after all…) – I just want them to make a good movie. If it’s evoking the kind of atmosphere you’ve described, then I reckon they’re probably doing a pretty good job so far!

I’m not happy that there are a lot of plot holes which they’re going to have to fix later – but hey – that’s why we’re getting 2 DH movies!

Regarding Dumbledore…he’s one of my favourite characters, and though I don’t like everything about the way Gambon portrays him, I can see how people would both agree and disagree to different extents – people even argue over the way Dumbledore comes across in the books! There have been essays about whether Dumbledore is a heartless manipulator, or whether he’s a father figure! But for me, that mystery and complexity is what I love about him =)

Thank you for uploading this review!

Posted by stella8h8chang on September 08, 2008, 12:34 AM report to moderator
looney bird

I’m so tired of this hype that I feel for this movie only to be disapointed by WB and the filmakers. I’ve had enough of this protesting, screaming, getting excited, and etc. I am an avid HP fan and Harry/Ginny shipper and this movie was going to be the best because it’s my favorite book. But now I’m tired, really really tired. I’m just going to move on with life and read Harry Potter instead of wait for the “perfect” movie that will most likely never happen. This summer has been an emotional roller coaster with this whole, “Oh my God, HBP will release soon” and “Why do I have to wait another year!” and “This movie will be a great movie!” and then with this report. All I have to say is that I’M TIRED!!!

Posted by looney bird on September 08, 2008, 12:56 AM report to moderator
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