Total Film Opinion Article on 12 Things They Should Have Kept in the Harry Potter Films

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Jun 20, 2009

Posted by SueTLC

UK magazine Total Film has an interesting opinion piece/feature online where they lament twelve things that should have been kept in the Harry Potter films. Echoing many sentiments we fans have expressed written and discussed over the years, the list includes some of the following:

*PEEVES: The omission of the pesky poltergeist of Hogwarts has long been a source of the discussion in the fandom. Total Film adds to the chorus as it notes Peeves should have been included for OotP, noting: Pesky prankster Peeves is an anarchic poltergeist whose only goal is
to create chaos. His sworn enemy is Argus Filch, the school caretaker,
who has to clear up after him. Rumours that he could be the ghost of Jeremy Beadle remain unfounded. Rik Mayall did film a scene as Peeves for Philosopher’s Stone, but it got chopped.

*The Origins of the Marauders Map in Prisoner of Azkaban: If you’ve never read the book, the magic map given to Harry in
Prisoner Of Azkaban seems to have ˜lazy plot device’ written all over
it.In fact, what it actually had written all over it is ˜Messrs Mooney,
Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs’, which is a clue as to its origins and a
whole subplot about Harry’s dad, Sirius Black and the other map
creators being animagii ’ those with the ability to turn into animals.

*Percy Weasley, Traitor: The magazine discusses the cutting of this subplot to Order of the Phoenix, as they describe the role played by Chris Rankin in the films as follows: In the film, elder Weasley sprog Percy ’ now working for the
Ministry of Magic ’ comes across as a slimy yes-man. In the books he’s
an all-out traitor, disowning his family and sending Christmas presents
back unopened. The film could have run with the idea of Percy going really evil ’
fiddling his expenses and claiming on a second Gnome or something.

You can read the entire list, which also includes SPEW, Professor Binns, hoarding by Kreacher, the Headless Hunt and more here via this link. Thanks Kiwi!





95 Responses to Total Film Opinion Article on 12 Things They Should Have Kept in the Harry Potter Films

Avatar ImageStefanM94 says: I think the top 3 things they should have kept in the film (out of that list) were Kreacher, because he plays a vital role in the 7th book. Also, it would have been hilarious to keep Peeves in, especailly for OOTP. and lastly...QUIDDITCH! that was great in OOTP, but they left it out of the film. BOOOO! Avatar Imageiheartpink says: oh my god, jk rowling insisted that kreacher be kept. i hope this means that they are going to do all the scenes about regalus black and then harry finally forgiving and sorta befriending Kreacher in DH.Avatar Imageiheartpink says: oh my god, jk rowling insisted that kreacher be kept. i hope this means that they are going to do all the scenes about regalus black and then harry finally forgiving and sorta befriending Kreacher in DH.Avatar Imagekamidee says: I agree about Percy, but at the same time I understand why it was cut :(Avatar Imagecheeserpleaser says: I agree that the films should have retained all the twelve things that they listed. All of these elements either enriched the Potterverse greatly or contributed significantly to the development of the plot or themes of the series.Avatar ImageBewareoftheNargles says: Yup, they were pretty much accurate with all the things that should have been kept. I wish SPEW had been in it and then that ties in nicely with Kreacher... hmmph.Avatar Imagelunaspec_gimmy says: Oh I agree with so many! Especially the origins of the marauder's map, and SPEW!Avatar Imagegreyy says: Agreed!! They should have kept ALOT in but i understand why..Avatar Imagelunalovespudding says: I love the second gnome joke. They should have left in Quidditch and SPEW.Avatar ImageJuine says: Couldn't agree more with the marauders one - that seriously needed explaining Avatar ImageChreechree says: I think that several of the things on the list were a disappointment to lose but understandable considering the amount of condensing they needed to do. From that list, I definitely agree that S.P.E.W., Percy's defection, and more on Kreacher should've been left in. Above all, the colossal ball dropping of the Marauder's Map rankles me every time I watch Azkaban, especially as the viewers never get that wonderful moment when Harry connects his Patronus to Prongs. I also agree wholeheartedly with Marietta Edgecombe. While Cho being the betrayer might have been more satisfying dramatically, Harry discovering that she did it unwillingly makes it a plot problem. In the book, their relationship finally dies from their irreconcilable loyalties to their friends (Marietta vs. Hermione). In the movie, it's left unresolved, and doesn't it make Harry look like a jerk that he just forgets about her when the betrayal wasn't her fault? Bad decision by the movie makers. Avatar Imagesaffran says: I agree that the 3 mentioned above should have been in the films Avatar ImageAubNoelle says: Hmm. I don't really see how Peeves, Marietta Edgecomb, Sir Patrick, or Ludo Bagman are all that necessary to keep in the movies. Sorry everyone! I was thinking some things should be included such as Kreacher being deceptive in OotP, Neville seeing his parents in St. Mungo's and the explanation of what happened to them, St. Mungo's in general, explanation of the Maraduers and more details on Wormtail's betrayal and SPEW. I think SPEW is critical for the R/Hr kiss! Makes me wonder how they're gonna handle that in the movie!Avatar Imagesirius17 says: they should have just made every movie 2 films to fit everything i doubt anybody would have a problem with it, and they would still make a lot of moneyAvatar ImageLargeBlondDeathEater says: RIDICULOUS list. None of those are integral to the plot. A book is a book and a movie is a movie. Avatar Imageaval says: should have kept spew!! (and everything else of course)Avatar Imageanne1 says: agree Peeves, Percy (LOL at the expenses scandal reference), Kreacher and Marauders map at least should all have stayed. Percy and Kreacher because they lead onto events in the seventh book, Peeves just because he's great (and wouldn't Rick Mayall be great? why was he cut?), the map could have been explained in a single sentence in the shrieking shack, with Remus and Sirius calling each other by their nicknames and a quick explanation to Harry, without wasting too much time. I don't think SPEW is integral, it doesn't really need to be addressed, even regarding R/Hr kiss really. Quidditch, either the world cup and Ron aren't important and Ron is going to get action next film anyway and it would be repetition to have the same in two films. They could even do the chanting in this film.Avatar Imageanne1 says: agree Peeves, Percy (LOL at the expenses scandal reference), Kreacher and Marauders map at least should all have stayed. Percy and Kreacher because they lead onto events in the seventh book, Peeves just because he's great (and wouldn't Rick Mayall be great? why was he cut?), the map could have been explained in a single sentence in the shrieking shack, with Remus and Sirius calling each other by their nicknames and a quick explanation to Harry, without wasting too much time. I don't think SPEW is integral, it doesn't really need to be addressed, even regarding R/Hr kiss really. Quidditch, either the world cup and Ron aren't important and Ron is going to get action next film anyway and it would be repetition to have the same in two films. They could even do the chanting in this film.Avatar Imageanne1 says: agree Peeves, Percy (LOL at the expenses scandal reference), Kreacher and Marauders map at least could all have stayed. Percy and Kreacher because they lead onto events in the seventh book, Peeves just because he's great (and wouldn't Rick Mayall be great? why was he cut?), and the map because it could have been explained in a single sentence in the shrieking shack without wasting too much time. I don't think SPEW is important and it doesn't really need to be addressed, even for the R/Hr kiss. Quidditch isn't important either. Ron is going to get action next film anyway and it would be repetition to have the same in two films. They could even do the chanting in this film. The other omissions never bothered me.Avatar ImageEeyore says: I agree with some of the things on the list, but not all. Personally, I had enough quidditch with the first films, and seeing it in all the others would have taken valuable time and would have gotten boring, imo. But I completely agree that the Marauder's Map, Dobby, Kreacher, Percy and Marietta should have been in the movies with their more complete story lines. I thought it was a mistake to leave out Bagman, but it turns out he really wasn't that important later, so I guess that decision makes sense. I missed Peeves, especially when the twins were leaving, and again in Deathly Hallows, but I guess it was OK to not have him. And I missed Harry talking to Nick about Sirius's death. What I would add to the list is a better depiction of Barty Jr in the courtroom scene and a better death scene for Barty Sr. And then there is the missing Winky who plays a big role in that part of the story. The other thing that was left out was that Fluer is part veela. I guess it's not terribly important but it explains why the boys, Ron in particular, get all goofy whenever she's near them. The other thing the movies have all missed is the end of the books. They get part of it right and then stop before the full denouement from Dumbledore. So people who only watch the movies and haven't read the books really never fully get the meaning of what has happened in that particular story. Enough ranting, though. I'll stop for today.Avatar Imagemakandcheese says: i really wish they kept more to the books in general. there was so much that was left out, and for the people who only watch the movies, they wont understand whats happening. Avatar ImageLivelaughlovepotter says: Ok, I've been trying to comment on everything on the list in one post, but I keep hitting the wrong button so it refreshes the page. Let's sum it up. I really wish that every detail would've been in the movies, but I guess time won't agree with us here. Avatar ImageLilleby says: JOHN NETTLES should have played Professor Binns in CoS and OotP (:Avatar ImageLilleby says: JOHN NETTLES should have played Professor Binns in CoS and OotP (:Avatar ImageLadySara says: For me the most annoying thing left out of the movies, especially OOTP was the little visits Harry and Dumbledore share at the end. The first two movies contained their talks, but the last three have not. There was a whole chapter devoted to Dumbledore informing Harry about what the Prophesy said and what it meant to his future. In Goblet of Fire, you get the impression that maybe LV/Riddle has made a big mistake. These are not only important clues, but show how the relationship between Harry and Dumbledore is progressing. Avatar ImageCandyCane2304 says: I'm really just upset about the Percy storyline and the Marauders map.Avatar ImageWingardium Leviosa says: I totally agree that S.P.E.W., the Marauders, Kreacher, Ron as Quidditch Keeper, and Percy should have been left in. Also, the Quidditch World Cup scenes in the movie were very different from the book, which I didn't like. Cho's betrayal was poorly done and Marietta or someone else should have done the betraying. As much as I would have liked everything on the list to be kept in, I understand why a few things were cut out. Sir Patrick Delaney-Podmore and the Headless Hunt, along with the Deathday Party weren't terribly important.Avatar ImageDiamondWings says: Ok!Avatar Imagekingdom says: i disagree, a lot of the list is crucial to the series. the most important, that were for some strange reason cut off, were: 5.the Origin's of the Marauder's Map, 7. Ron's Quidditch Exploits, and 12.Kreacher's Hoarding. the films felt as if they were incomplete without these scenes in them.Avatar Imagehermyone08 says: very interesting and very true list.. i'm glad that they put this list out. and notice most of the things on the list were cut from OotP! Avatar Imagehufflepuff_86 says: Interesting... I agree on many counts.Avatar Imagehufflepuff_86 says: HaHa...1st!Avatar ImageEmilyDeibert says: Interesting! And I agree with all of them - I'd sit through unreasonably long movies if they'd kept everything in.Avatar ImageTamyris says: The list is not actually really interesting. There are much more important things that they cut than the lack of Prof Binns or Ludo Bagman or Peeves.The should have explained the prophecy better in the fifth.That´s crucial in the series.Avatar ImageEmilyDeibert says: Oh, yeah, and I think Spew was the most important one. Ron and Hermione's kiss won't be the same without it!!Avatar Imagelunaspec_gimmy says: Oh and definitely the cutting of the quidditch world cup, I was so gutted when they just cut from the start of the match to the celebrations!Avatar ImageHPHealer says: First of all, I think that S.P.E.W was very vital to the series, and to Hermionie's character as a whole. Honestly, Jo could not have written a more touching moment for Hermonie/Ron kiss, than when Ron finally understands about S.P.E.W. I do not believe that whatever they come up with for the onscreen kiss will be nearly as special without S.P.E.W. I will be VERY shocked and impressed if they could pull this off. I think Percy and Kreacher are both great plot lines that got cut, which I am hoping that they can rectify within the next three movies. One of my favorite moments in the series is in DH when Percy comes flying into the Room of Requirement right before the battle, but that will not be the same without the backstory. I think that the details of the Marauders would also be on my list of things that they should have kept. I agree that St. Mungos would have been a great scene for OotP for the development of Neville's character.Avatar Imageevannaa says: I agree with most things, although I don't think Binns is that important.. The Quidditch (world cup and Ron) were really disappointing in the movies.. I really hope 'Weasley is our King' will be sung in HBP.. And I wonder how Ron and Hermione will get to kiss without SPEW..(nice picture of Dobby there, btw). I just realised the song about Voldy has gone moldy won't be in the movie either :( It is kinda strange that he is in the computer games and not in the movies.. he's funny :P And that they left out the Marauders story (and that they misspelled Moony.. intentionally).Avatar Imageskiving snackboxes says: interesting, I agree with most of it too. Especially Kreacher hoarding things... now they have to go back and fill in the holes to explain what they cut out before. Avatar ImageHopelaa93 says: The top thing they should have kept in in my opinion was, Hermione giving Ron a kiss on the cheek! Avatar Imagemagiclilly22 says: Yha the should have kept alot of stuff inAvatar ImageLemonySherbert says: I agree with pretty much everything, but that's just the fan in me. I'd love to see more of Dobby and S.P.E.W.!... Ugh. But some of the cuts do make a little sense, from a filmaker's point of view. Apparently, a 6 hour movie wouldn't please us... D: And they'll have a lot of difficulty tying Kreacher into the next movies as well.Avatar ImageRhiannon7 says: Well, technically, The Headless Hunt is shown running throught the Great Hall in POA although not named as such. Percy is there in OOP, but they never call him by name. Kreacher does have his little box and is doing some tidying. The scene with Burke, Lucius and Draco is in the bonus scenes--and it is shown on the ABC Family version. Peeves, SPEW, Bagman and the rest we could do without. BUT the one that bugs me the most is not explaining where the Mauraders Map came from--it is one of the pivetal clues in the entire story.Avatar ImageEnricoDc says: Total Film must include "S.P.E.W." in their list. I Love House-Elves stories/parts in the book and then the film makers decided to ommit them, one reason why i felt dissapointment.Avatar ImageEdna_Turnblad says: This is great!Avatar Imagedarkprincess637 says: I definitely agreed with most of those on the list, especially leaving Kreacher out in OOP. I also wish they had mentioned that there is no one for Merope in HBP, I felt that that was a very emotionally significant part of the book, but it looks like they're going to leave it out. :( Oh well, I'll probably still love it anyway, just because of all the anticipation.Avatar Imagesaoirse42 says: I agree with all of them! (But especially SPEW, The Marauder's Map, Peeves, and Kreacher)Avatar ImageT-Vey says: To me, the list generally followed a scale of number 1 being the least important, to number 12 being most important. However, I thought the origins of the Marauder's Map could have possibly been the most important, because it is one of the biggest themes of PoA, and it could've been so easy to incorporate. When Lupin closed the map, Harry could easily asked how he knew how to close it, and Lupin could have just as easily replied, "I made it!" and then go into short detail about Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs. I really think that Harry discovering his many similarities to James was a big theme to the movie!Avatar Imagebadger666 says: I don't agree with the list much at all, except for the maurader's map, Kreacher, and maybe SPEW. There are things they left out that are so much more important than the things on that list, for example information about the mauraders and Snape (why on earth was the SWM scene not on that list, for example?). My list would be so different. Avatar ImageHarryLoony says: Well, I agree with all of you people too but it seems that the omissions were made from a film maker's point of view. I don't think that Kreacher was that cut and we have seen him putting some stuff from the box he carries! I just think that with all what JK has put in the book, the movies would have turned out to be like 5 or 6 hours! Avatar ImageWON_TWO says: I miss EVERYTHING!!!Avatar ImageHPNAIV says: Percy, Spew, Kreacher ... all of those things on the list I agree with!Avatar Imagepipkin3 says: But they should also have kept REGULUS BLACK in the OOTP FILM!!!! The great thing about Jo is that she buries a lot of her answers, but now they're going to mention him in the same film as the message in the locket, anyone will will know for sure that the thief of the locket is him. It would have made more sense to hide his name in the OOTP, as there are no other RAB's mentioned in the films.Avatar Imagepipkin3 says: But they should also have kept REGULUS BLACK in the OOTP FILM!!!! The great thing about Jo is that she buries a lot of her answers, but now they're going to mention him in the same film as the message in the locket, anyone will will know for sure that the thief of the locket is him. It would have made more sense to hide his name in the OOTP, as there are no other RAB's mentioned in the films.Avatar Imageanne1 says: wierd! my comments appeared half way up the comments when i've only just posted, sorry for triple posts, keep getting server errorsAvatar ImageJTEL99 says: I agree with a lot of those, particularly about the Marauder's backstory. Avatar ImageBader says: I agree on Peeves and the Quiditch World Cup.Avatar ImageWimsey says: LargeBlondDeathEater is entirely correct. This list is a classic case of missing the forest (story, plot, themes) for the trees (narrative details). Look at Lord of the Rings: those films cut out all of these sorts of things. They built a much bigger audience (ticket sales actually increased) and got heaped with critical praise and awards. Avatar ImageDeliaDee says: The Marauders Map was essential to the plot in that it exemplifies the relationship between the Marauders underscoring the horror that was Peter's betrayal and the ramifications thereof. Also, no one who hasn't read the book has any idea why Harry's patronus is a stag. Spew, I never saw as very important but the presence of Dobby and Kreacher were. No one has seen Dobby since CoS (in the movies) and therefore no one who hasn't read the books has any idea of the loyalty and friendship between Harry and him. Kreacher's betrayal and hoarding in OotP were both integral to the story. Peeves was a tragic loss. There was no reason not to include him. Every director put in crap that wasn't in the book purely for humor and/or entertainment purposes. Peeves would have provided both in spades and still been canon. Technically, these things were not vital to the plots. However, the biggest problem with the movies (in my humble opinion) is that they provide no reason for us to really care. Many of the things they cut are exactly those things that would have given ALL the viewers real affection and understanding of the characters and essential plotlines. I know of several people who have only watched the movies that didn't really care when Sirius died because the movies never really gave the viewers the reason or the opportunity to care about him very much. On the surface, these things might seem like inconsequential plot devices but they actually provide the story with a sense of cohesion and the viewer with the understanding that the Harry Potter universe is a 3-dimensional world and not a 2-dimensional snapshot. At the very least, they could have had everyone wear proper attire.Avatar Imagehericus says: OMG Peeves had a scene in the first film but they cut it!? Why!! Avatar Imagesunlitdays says: wow. im really impressed that they had an article about that. i dont agree on 100% of the stuff that they say, but i like that they had that in there. Avatar Imagecpv2006 says: i agree with most of it, prof. binns, ludo bagman, the headless hunt, those things dont need to be in the movie, percy-well he isnt in the movie much and when he is he is shown as a slimball so its kinda hinted about him. borgin and burkes should be in the movie. peeves for comic relief. quidditch it has action but the story was fine without it and since its back in HBP, it will be more exciting. spew isnt really a big plot line, i mean ron and hermiones kiss will probably be something else like he saves her or something. kreacher and the marauders map were the only big things cut. one major thing they forgot was the weasley family: bill, charlie, and fleur, much more of a big plot lineAvatar ImagePadfootLover4ever says: I agree with about half of these. Some of them really shouldn't have been cut, but others I don't really care. The ones I agree on is the Marauder's Map origin, Spew, Quidditch(definitely), Percy's betraying, and kreacher betraying. Those needed to be there in my opinion. The rest I could care less. Like Peeves and Bagman and those. Interesting list though.Avatar Imagefelixfelicis11 says: I think it's okay to eliminate peeves, even though he was semi-important for the 5th book (Give her hell from us, peeves!), but the other ones definitely should have stayed. The nonexistant explanation of the founders left people who watched the movie but who didn't read the books EXTREMELY confused, and Percy being a traitor is a main part of the slow collaps and turn of the ministry!Avatar ImageLilleby says: JOHN NETTLES should have played Professor Binns in CoS and OotP (: Avatar ImagelittleL says: Some of those are pointless, like ghosts etc. But agree about the map, that and not enough Ginny. Didn't know about Rick Mayall as Peeves, that may have worked, shame!Avatar Imagejenlynn619 says: I don't think most of those pieces are important (aside from maybe the authors of the Maurader's Map), I can't even remember most of those details from the books. I do believe that a lot of vital things were left out of Order of the Phoenix, but the film makers seem to have learned their lesson seeing as HBP seems like it will be more on target, and from what's been said about the two parts of DH, those films will probably contain more book details as well.Avatar ImageMidnightSun321 says: tbh most of those are really not needed. yeah it would be nice 4 sum of them but gosh!!Avatar Imagephantomles says: Couldn't agree more about SPEW - would have been geat to see winky in GOF. Also the Marauders Map should have been explained properly. Don't agree with Peeves (especially if Rik Mayall woas going to play him) Avatar Imagekingdom says: also, as AubNoelle stated, they should have included Neville seeing his parents in St. Mungo's, and more information on St. Mungo's. it would have added more to Neville and created a stronger character, thus creating a stronger battle when the Death Eater Bellatrix Lestrange faces him.Avatar Imageiceymoon says: an interesting idea for an article, but it was badly written.. aside from the inaccuracies (there was only ever 1 quidditch match in GoF, no semi-finals or anything like that.. and SNEAK is written across the face, not across the forehead) the details they give seem to be fragmented, and then they have some comments that come out of nowhere. it sort of feels like only someone who is vaguely familiar with the series wrote this from some scraps that they read online.. there are far more important things that they cut (like a proper explanation of the prophecy).Avatar ImageTamyris says: I agree that the quidditch should have been kept a long with Percy,Kreacher abd the origin of the marauders as well.Avatar ImageTamyris says: Percy,quidditch,Marauders,Marietta,Kreacher. They were barking important.Avatar Imagehannah abbot says: yeah I also wish they kept charlie and bill in... even just a little bit?Avatar ImageAga Veneficus says: How does the Marauder's Map come off as a lazy plot device just because the movie doesn't tell us who made it? It still does the same thing! If it's lazy at all (which I very much disagree with) it's lazy in both the book and film. >_> That is all. Now. . . on to read the rest! <_<Avatar ImageHeavenly_Horcrux says: I have to admit, I would love to see Peeves!Avatar ImageHPHealer says: First of all, I think that S.P.E.W was very vital to the series, and to Hermionie's character as a whole. Honestly, Jo could not have written a more touching moment for Hermonie/Ron kiss, than when Ron finally understands about S.P.E.W. I do not believe that whatever they come up with for the onscreen kiss will be nearly as special without S.P.E.W. I will be VERY shocked and impressed if they could pull this off. I think Percy and Kreacher are both great plot lines that got cut, which I am hoping that they can rectify within the next three movies. One of my favorite moments in the series is in DH when Percy comes flying into the Room of Requirement right before the battle, but that will not be the same without the backstory. I think that the details of the Marauders would also be on my list of things that they should have kept. I agree that St. Mungos would have been a great scene for OotP for the development of Neville's character. Avatar Imagestuckinanhpmoment says: it's true, a book is a book and movie is a movie, but it still would have made things more complete to include for example the origins of the maurader's map (I felt bad for the movie-goers who missed out on this backstory, it's what makes the books so awesome in my opinion, how everything is tied together). But oh well, all the more reason that "real fans" should definitely see the movies AND read the books, hehe!Avatar Imagestuckinanhpmoment says: oh and I agree also with everyone's mention of the ron/hermione kiss, S.P.E.W. is kind of what makes that moment so funny and sweet at the same time. I absolutely loved it in the book, couldn't get past if for like 15 minutes how cute it was, lol!Avatar ImageLuce_depp says: i looooooooove all those moment and i really really really wish they'd been included. After reaidng deathly hallows u look back on it and go that stuff was really integral to the plot even tho it didn't seem it. S.P.E.W causes the first kiss for ron and hermione for example. Percy and Kreachers hording is going to be easily explained in the final movie.Avatar ImagetheREALGinnyWeasley says: i dont really think they needed like peeves and stuff....it would have been cool but i really think they should have kept in marieta.....and dobby should be in the movies moreAvatar ImagePotterpixie132 says: I think the backstory to Borgin and Burkes will be interesting, especially as we see in Philosopher's Stone harry in the wrong place- gives a bit more context for the undesirables... Ron in quidditch should be more especially considering him making the team in HBP (fingers crossed they do it justice) and the big biggy, Percy... after all it's the whole Crouch thing that gets partially ignored at the quidditch world cup that in my opinion leads Percy to get more distanced.Avatar Imagephantomles says: Couldn't agree more about SPEW, would have been great to see winky in GOF, also Marauders Map back story was a glaring omission Don't agree about peeves (especially if it was to be Rik Mayall playing him)Avatar ImageAliyah95 says: I wish they had kept everything. I doubt any of us would mind a ten hour movie!Avatar Imagemuggle..andproudofit says: i wish they kept everything too! But i think my family would draw the line at a ten hour movie (thout i would LOVE it) because i always finsh Homework late due to non-stop Harry Potter movie watching ,and i think my sister (Teacher) will ban HP books if it write one more report on them. But i truely think they should have Peeves in because he plays a Very importent part in the Deathy Hallows that and i like his songs/ chants :)Avatar Imagebengtson_98 says: Okay I think the one about The Maraduers map is crap. They did explain when Harry went into the castle to find Peter Pettigrew and ran into Snape... When Snape said 'Reveal Your Secrets' Harry had to read it and he said ' Messers Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot and Prongs would like to ... ' and so on... That should have been a clue.. that was all they gave us in the books.Avatar Imagesupergirlinfrance says: I really wished they would have kept the origins of the marauder's map =(Avatar ImageNuttyAsSP says: Random ramblings, but that's how I my brain works (if you call that working) .... No doubt the most glaring is the Marauder's Map. It ties together Lupin, Sirius, James. For that matter, did the movie cover that Sirius was truly remorseful that he changed the Secret Keeper to Pettigrew? Because we need to understand why Sirius will go to any length to protect Harry. I thought they could have left in Dobby gaving Harry the Gillyweed in the GoF instead of Neville. It really shows how much Dobby is willing to 'repay' Harry for setting him free, its another part of the bond between them. In my opinion, Harry did not consider Dobby as 'irritating' in the GoF as that article implies. The Headless Hunt? Good grief, it was aching to get whacked. Only reason one would want it in the movie would be to do some gross-out or show off special effects, if the movie was too short. How about the removal of Snape's puzzle at the end of the first book? Snape's riddle is part of a larger riddle of is Snape against or helpful to Harry Potter. What really annoyed me was that in the GoF movie, everyone from Durmstrang was male, and Beaubatons was female. I didn't like the change of scenery for the Dementor attack. One more - Karkaroff is in some strange metal cage in GoF (Dumbedore's memory in the Pensieve), and Harry is supposed to be in the same chair in OOTP? Is it going to change a third time in the DH movie?Avatar ImageWeenyOwl says: SPEW & Winky were just a small part of what was stupidly excised from Goblet of Fire the movie (presumably to make room for unnecessarily long, special-effects-laden set pieces for the 3 Tasks), leaving a plot that must've been utterly incoherent to anyone who hadn't read the book. In particular, the Barty Sr./Barty Jr. subplot was trashed to the point where it made no sense at all in the movie: Harry finds Barty Sr.'s dead body at the edge of the Forbidden Forest, then doesn't bother to mention it to anyone, not even Dumbledore, while everybody races on to the next thing with no further explanation? Whose dumb idea was that? How would the viewer understand from these truncated scenes that Crouch's "illness" is how Flayed-Baby Voldemort came back to Britain? I would've gladly traded the dragon in Task #1 breaking out of its chains for a coherent narrative that built up to some rational conclusions & explained some backstory. Of the 12 things mentioned, I miss Peeves a lot more than Binns or the Headless Hunt, & Ron's torments as Keeper a lot more than the World Cup match. There should have been LOTS more background on the Marauders. The substitution of Cho for Marietta as the traitor was stupid - in fact the whole betrayal of Dumbledore's Army was completely mishandled: How are they going to explain the crucial scenes in the Room of Requirement in 6 & 7 if Umbridge has already blown up the Room? Buf of all of these, the one that was the worst oversight in terms of narrative was not mentioning Kreacher's hoarding tendencies or showing the housecleaning scene with the locket. It's crucial to the unfolding of the Horcrux subplot - how could the filmmakers not have known that?Avatar ImageLtrain33 says: Yes, the Marauder's Map origins are important for Harry's personal development, and could have been fleshed out more in the PoA movie. I also agree with most posters that Kreacher's betrayal and hording should have been in OOTP. S.P.E.W. didn't need to be in the movies, nor did Quidditch (the World Cup or Ron as keeper in OOTP - especially since he'll get his moment in film 6). Bagman was mostly irrelevant. The rest of the list was highly inconsequential. I felt Lily being in Snape's memory should have been part of the OOTP the film, just so that them knowing each other isn't a revelation for the final movie(s). However, the BIGGEST OMISSION from the films, IMO - and I'm shocked that no one else has mentioned this - is the missing mirror. The mirror plays a HUGE role in the final book, especially in Malfoy Manor. As far as a plot device, I'm not sure how they'll work the script for DH to get around it, because it sets up everyone's escape from Malfoy Manor, Dobby's fate, and Aberforth and Albus' trust in him; I suppose they could script it so they don't need Dobby's help to escape, but then how do they do justice to Dobby's end? Maybe they'll retroactively deal with it somehow in HBP, such as keeping the scene where Mundungus is caught peddling Sirius'/Harry's things? Avatar ImageMr. Stratford says: Was there a "succession of matches" before the Quidditch World Cup between Ireland and Bulgaria. I'm too lazy to get up and get the book right now, but I've read Goblet of Fire a few times, and I don't remember that.Avatar ImageDolemite says: It's a good list but there are so many more.Avatar Imagelevi-OH-sa not levio-SA says: a few of those are VERY important but i reaaallly missed ron playing quidditch in ootp and the whole percy thing things i missed that were not on the list: the whole thing with neville's parents in ootp as well as extended dept of mysteries scene...they gypped that movie waaay too muchAvatar ImageHermione Elizabeth says: I agre about Percy not beeing much in the movies... but they are strict on time so it makes sense why he's not mentioned much. I also wish the TriWizard Tournament was shown but that also cuts into the time of the movie and the plot. You gotta remember that these are movies, and the more there is, the more it costs. Avatar ImageHermioneRon4ever says: I agree with all of them (though some I totally understand as they are uneeded just interesting / funny) the ones I REALLY believe should have been kept though are: Kreacher's hoarding, Percy Weasley, S.P.E.W, and Marauder's Map (they did kind of say this as he reads "Messers Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs. Then later they call Sirius Padfoot and Petigrew Wormtail. However, they should have done it much more specifically, I doubt many non-book readers caught on)

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