New York Times Article on Amount of Alcohol Use in Half-Blood Prince

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Jul 29, 2009

Posted by SueTLC

A columnist for the New York Times has written a piece that asks “Does Hogwarts have a drinking problem?” in relation to what they seem to feel is rampant drinking that takes place in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. The article starts out by claiming “parents may be surprised by the starring role given to alcohol. In
scene after scene, the young wizards and their adult professors are
seen sipping, gulping and pouring various forms of alcohol to calm
their nerves, fortify their courage or comfort their sorrows.”

The author of the piece continues: “Previous Harry Potter movies have shown drinking, but this one takes it to a new level. In one scene, Harry, Ron and Hermione order butterbeers at the pub, and Hermione ends up with a frothy mustache. While it’s never been entirely clear whether butterbeer is alcoholic, it seems to have an effect on the normally uptight Hermione, who acts tipsy walking home as she throws her arms around the boys.

As
the mother of a 10-year-old Harry Potter fan, I was taken aback by the
reaction of the young people in the theater. They snickered at
Hermione’s goofy grin and, later, guffawed when an inebriated Hagrid
passed out. While I don’t think my daughter fully understood what was
going on, I wondered how other parents, educators and addiction experts
would react.

Liz Perle, a mother of two teenage boys and the
editor in chief of Common Sense Media, which reviews books, movies and
Web content aimed at children, said she was bothered by so many scenes
showing alcohol as a coping mechanism. “Hermione is such a
tightly wound young lady, but she’s liberated by some butterbeer’ she
said. “The message is that it gives you liquid courage to put your arms
around the guy you really like but are afraid to.”

…”Overseas audiences may respond differently to the drinking scenes. In
England, the legal drinking age is 18, but 16-year-olds can order
alcohol if they’re eating a meal. (Even by those standards, the
teenagers in the movie were flouting the law: during the pub scene, no
food was served.)

A response from Warner Bros “said the drinking scenes were “open to different interpretations. ‘One
of our main objectives in bringing the Harry Potter films to the screen
has been to remain as faithful to their original source material as
created by J. K Rowling’ the company wrote in an e-mail message,
adding that the wizarding world “should not be held to the same
standards as the real world.’ “





283 Responses to New York Times Article on Amount of Alcohol Use in Half-Blood Prince

Avatar Imagejain says: and theres me worring about the death and torture. Get a sense of humour!!!!!Avatar Imagesirius17 says: I really don't think it's a big deal. It seemed natural, I didn't really notice it until everybody has been pointing it out!Avatar ImagePaintTheSky says: Yes there was some alcohol in the film, but it's not like they were stumbling around and falling over getting sick in an alley by the Hog's Head...then there might have been a problem :P As I see it, they were just drinking socially as most people do when they're of age of with friends or out enjoying themselves. I think the columnist is taking this a bit out of context. Now if they were driving a broom, they might be cited for a FWI (flying while intoxicated) and that definitely would not be sending a good message.Avatar Imagechikitcorpuzvesterbaek says: If it's that big a deal for them, they should practice "parental guidance" instead of just being "shocked" about it. What about all the overtly sexual and violent behavior in most teen flicks nowadays? Avatar Imagehopieg says: ugh, really... some people just aren't happy unless they are complaining about these wonderful books and movies. :p people if you don't like aspects of what these books/movies contain, don't read/watch them and keep your opinions to yourselfAvatar Imagesirius17 says: Also it was so funny, Hagrid and Slughorn got drunk in the book so whats the big deal! People just like to overreact to everything, and act like the world's a perfect place.Avatar ImagePrisoner Of Azkaban says: Erm, I'm pretty sure children shouldn't be going anyway. The inferi scheme made many many kids cry and scream during the showing I went to, some even had to be taken out of the cinema! Also I'm pretty sure killing someone is a touch worse than a glass of butterbeer :S Some people are right idiots aren't they?Avatar Imageweasleygirl295 says: Yeah, come on, it's the wizarding world, they're allowed different laws...so no one cared about sectumsempra or Dumbledore's death, just the consumption of alcohol?Avatar Imagemaxteach says: I always thought of Butterbeer and something akin to Rootbeer, which is completely non-alcoholic. I would be more alarmed if they were drinking fire whiskey, which is clearly an adult beverage. But, I suppose people could find objectionable material in anything, if they're looking for it.Avatar ImagePetra says: Oh, come on, where is the problem? They wanted to show Hermione in a funny way, so they did this scene where she is like "drunken".So? That doesn't men every girl who saw the movie and is in love, will go into a pub and drunk herself. I mean, we don't even know is she really drunken or she did just this funny walk with goofy grin. I think real problem is in opinion of this mother who said that Hermione is a wound, young lady and it's not appropriate for her to have a drink. What is this? Just a guy can order something in a pub? Come on!!!Avatar ImageLisee_Lu says: I don't understand how people can be so uptight about a couple of butterbeers and various "tonics" to calm the nerves... I'm a mother myself and I would trust that I could explain to my children the difference between liquid courage/ alcoholism and having a drink with friends without worrying that a couple innocent scenes would wipe all reason from their minds. After all, it's not as if Hermione was at a table surrounded by flagons upon flagons of butterbeer. The scene's were true to the canon, which I find easily mirrored in real life. The movie doesn't show alcohol in a "solve all your problems" light, neither does it glorify "tonics" as proven when Ron thinks he's been given felix felicis (he had it in him to do well all along). If anything, the movie/book give the impression that love potions are better off left alone, felix is better used sparingly and that drinking too much of Madame Rosmerta's mead is likely to get you poisoned (especially if within reach of Draco Malfoy). I'm sorry, but I have a real problem with these type of mom's that rely on the media to teach their children life lessons instead of taking charge of that themselves. If you don't approve of the type of content your children are exposed to, then don't expose them. But please don't act as if the world needs to only portray what you deem as good and just.Avatar ImageBookworm Jen says: I guess it's a good thing they didn't keep Winky in GoF! ;)Avatar ImagetheREALGinnyWeasley says: okay the drinking rules for england confuse me....so not fair!!! hahah kidding.....but yeah hogwarts students do seem to drink a lot......hmmmmAvatar ImageA Chocolate Frog says: Just more people trying to give Harry Potter a bad name. Read the books, folks, that's what counts, and there's nothing in there condoning underage drinking. I've always thought butterbeer was akin to root beer anyway, with maybe just the tiniest bit of alcohol since it affects house-elves. The tipsy Hermione scene was funny, yes, but it doesn't count as canon.Avatar Imagehorsepatronus64 says: oh god... 'starring role'? If kids see people in movies drinking, it does not make them want to drink. The thing that influences children to drink alcohol is if their parents do! Besides, if you are so concerned about your child being influenced by the media, Harry Potter is the least thing you should worry about. By the time these kids are old enough to be offered a drink, they will have long forgotten this specific scene in this specific movie! Find something else to worry about, parents.Avatar Imagekbicprez says: WOW, I actually agree with WB! I’m not a parent so I watched the drinking from a different perspective. But I think parents sometimes overreact to situations while their children couldn’t care less. I wonder if her 10-year old even remembered the drinking.Avatar ImageFlora Lovegood says: Ummm.... did they actually read the books? or watch the film for that matter? I always thought butterbeer was like rootbeer or gingerbeer...not alcoholic. In fact, everyone is surprised that Winky reacts so crazily to it...and the alcohol Ron drinks POISONS him...obviously not a positive message. And they are in the UK...and Hermione is in love, not drunk...duh...and most of the stuff they drank were potions! AND it is a fantasy...not reality...get over it. I am a mom who read and watched with my 13 yo son and have no worries that he is at risk of alcoholism b/c of Harry Potter. gimme a break.Avatar ImageFlora Lovegood says: Ummm.... did they actually read the books? or watch the film for that matter? I always thought butterbeer was like rootbeer or gingerbeer...not alcoholic. In fact, everyone is surprised that Winky reacts so crazily to it...and the alcohol Ron drinks POISONS him...obviously not a positive message. And they are in the UK...and Hermione is in love, not drunk...duh...and most of the stuff they drank were potions! AND it is a fantasy...not reality...get over it. I am a mom who read and watched with my 13 yo son and have no worries that he is at risk of alcoholism b/c of Harry Potter. gimme a break.Avatar Imagelevi-OH-sa not levio-SA says: -__- so. what. please remind me not to be a stupid parent when i grow up [everything will not taint your child] your own parental stupidity will.Avatar Imagecghambright says: Does the NY Times seriously not have anything MORE important to write about than fictional alcohol in the HP movies? I mean it's not like they're downing shots of VODKA!! The drinking age in Britain is alot lower than it is in the US, so it's not that big of a deal for 16/17/18 year olds to drink. But the thing that makes this article even MORE ridiculous is that fact that the characters are drinking butterbeer and Mead!! The scene involving Hermione being tipsy is clearly meant to be taking that way. But it's supposed to be funny because Hermione is the last character who would ever get drunk. It's not like she's wasted. Plus the main Harry Potter audience has grown up with the books/films and most of us are in our late teens and early 20s and 30s now. I think we tell the difference between some fictional drinking and the real thing. America is way too uptight when it comes to things like this. The more it's "forbidden" the more young people will want to do it. Other countries with lower legal drinking ages do not have the same problems that we do here. I wonder if they brought up Harry's reaction to the Felix Felicis?? That seemed alot more "controversial" than Hermione getting a little tipsy. Avatar ImageFlora Lovegood says: oops...sorry about the double post! but I will add: Our kids are far more often exposed to alcohol use on TV everyday! The commercials are designed to make it look fun and cool...I dont even see where that came in in HP? whatev...Avatar Imagejrivas1284 says: imaooo this article is funny. Some looser mother woke up today saying "mmm how can i call attention" then she when online saw that half blood prince is everywhere because of the money made and fan loved and she said “this is my chance” imaooo I am telling u is crazy the thing people do this days to call attention. Avatar ImagePigwidgeonPwns says: Haha, there's dead bodies walking around and they're worrying about the alcohol. Lol.Avatar ImagePardus Demensarx Sinclair says: If I remember correctly, the reason Hermione gets a little buzzed is because Slughorn sloshes a little of his mead into her butterbeer with out her catching on to it. That's the joke. "All hands on deck, eh, Granger?!?" I mean, the students have been drinking butterbeer for three years now in the movies and no one's acted that way yet. It's an addition that's supposed to show the irresponsibility of Slughorn and his love of the drink in preparation for the scene in Hagrid's hut. As well as giving us a jolt between the comedy of that realization ("OMG! Hermione's buzzed!") and the fright of what happens on the path back to the school. Silly Muggle. Avatar ImageMadameSuede says: seriously?! It didn't even occur to me that the alcohol was a problem in this film. I think the creepy inferi and the murder of Dumbledore were a lot scarier than an innocent glass of butterbeer!Avatar Imageforgetmenot_007 says: Hey, why is it being an issue?Avatar ImageVeganMudblood says: Hmm...Yeah, and there are people being terrorized and murdered left and right. Way to pick your priorities. IT'S. A. MOVIE. Avatar Imageemdash84 says: Like many, to me, butterbeer is more like rootbeer (at least that's how I imagine it to be). About the Hermonie scene and arms around the boys... Uhm, HELLO, they're friends, and she's just having fun with her best friends. Why does alcohol have to be involved when one is brave enough to hug a boy? See, here's where dense, grown-up minds come into play. The younger crowd, and those young at heart (like me) look at scenes like that with innocence, not making a big deal out of nothing. Half-Blood Prince is about so much more important subject matter, and instead of musing over this weak attack at the series, one should focus on the love, loss and hurt this book/film is talking about. Focus on what's important lady... and don't start a row on something that has no grounds. We are talking about an imaginary world here. Honestly, get with it. rant over.Avatar ImageSquibmeister says: I'm no prude, but I did notice the few instances of underage drinking in the books. It's not a big deal, but I still find it curious that JKR would choose to include it in her books. Doesn't butterbeer first appear in POA when the kids are 14? Again, not a big deal, but not exactly a great choice either, in my opinion.Avatar Imageimpoohnfrenz says: Why do they make this such a big deal. Its not like Hermione was throwing up all over the place. And Butterbeer had been in Harry Potter since Book 1. So why does it matter. People dont have anything else to do with their time but try and ruin it for the rest of us. Haters keep on hating!Avatar Imagelillyloo says: that was really silly. starring role? yeah, about as much as I starred in the film. moron.Avatar ImageMobius says: Such morons. I always pictured butterbeer = ROOTBEER. Jeez.Avatar Imageiamnotworriedharry says: I also always thought Butter beer was a root beer like substance, but I agree that Hermione did act a little tipsy after the 3 broomsticks scene. I find it really funny that someone is worried about their child seeing that in a movie that has the Inferi scene, and has a beloved character murdered by a friend and almost murdered by a student. There are so many messages in Harry Potter that are positive, like friendship, standing up for the little guy, bravery, not being materialistic, liking people for who they are, and extremely clean movies/books as far as sexual content. Avatar Image-MischiefManaged- says: These people are ridiculous! Perhaps it's the tight-ar$ed double standard thing that's so prevalent in the US, or perhaps they're just in need of a good sh4g or something, but I really think these people should get a life and start worrying about *real* issues in the *real* world. Like unemployment, homelessness, those millions of people in the US without a health insurance, etc. The whole alcohol thing never even crossed my mind before I saw these headlines on my Twitter page. I've seen the film four times now, five after tonight, and there's absolutely *nothing* wrong with the alcohol usage in it. Adults have wine, teenagers have something that probably has far less alcohol than a basic shandy, and there's nothing wrong with that. If HBP was a Finnish film, Harry, Ron, Hermione and the others would probably be drinking Firewhisky and wine, instead of some tame Butterbeer or Mead. (Isn't the poisoned drink in Slughorn's office Mead? The bottle that was meant for Dumbledore?) * skulks away, fuming *Avatar Imagesinwillys822 says: i actually had fun laughing at the alcohol scenes, it added just the right amount of humor into a movie that would have been really really sad if it was not included in the movie. I am glad that they kept to the book in that regard.Avatar ImageGinnyWeasley1 says: I can see why some parents don;t like it. Yes, there are young Harry Potter fans out there. But its just a movie!! I find those scenes very funny, espcially the one with hermoine! Avatar Imagejrivas1284 says: i agree with Pardus Demensarx SinclairAvatar ImageZoom says: wow. what is the world coming to?Avatar Imagegryffindor1991 says: how stupid! firstly they are wizards and they come of age at 17 not 18. if Hermione was drunk it wouldnt have mattered seeing as she was already 17 at the beginning of the movie.wizards dont have to abide by muggle laws. these people need to get lives and stop putting down movies for stupis little things. kids that saw the movie were paying attention to the comedy, action, romance, and magic not the alcohol.Avatar Imageabandonedboyjon says: ridiculous to the nth. it continues to astound me how much people seem to want to keep from children. Avatar Imagedrod@satx.rr.com says: If this lady were truly up with her kids she'd know that alcohol has already presented it self to her kids. If she's so freaked out about it don't go.Avatar Imagedrod@satx.rr.com says: If this lady were truly up with her kids she'd know that alcohol has already presented it self to her kids. If she's so freaked out about it don't go.Avatar ImageJohnB says: I got about half way through this and stopped reading, just stupid, that is all I have to say, just stupidAvatar Imagenandybared says: C'mon! They have drinked butterbeer since prisoner of Azcaban...Avatar ImageHP_Flower says: I'm glad someone is pointing this out. I personally think there was too much use of alcohol in the movie. I know some things like the scene with Hagrid needed to be in the movie, I'm okay with that. However, I don't agree with Hermione acting even a little bit drunk!Avatar Imagenutela17 says: i don´t think the kids who had seen HPB will become alcoholics just because they seen it. And i think it is okay because Hermione is 16 there and in austria ,where i live ,teens could drink at the age of 16 so why aren´t Hermione allowed to drink Avatar Imageccking says: this is ridiculous, it's not a big deal at all! and 'starring role'? really? no. god, get a sense of humor.Avatar Imagerealspace says: Give me a freaking break! While there is a chance that children going to this (or any) movie may have their perception of the world altered by what they see on screen, it is the responsibility of the parents (and I am one) to explain and discuss anything they might find disturbing in a movie or TV show. In the Potter movies over a dozen people have been murdered including Dumbledore in this one and the article's author is worried about a couple of drinks? I repeat: Give me a break!Avatar Imageabandonedboyjon says: oh and also for those wondering in previous posts: butterbeer is clearly alcoholic in the books, though Ron comments that it is not strong. winky gets drunk off it in GoF. Avatar ImageAgrippa1 says: That's simply ridiculous! Yes, Hagrid has always been shown in the books to have a problem with alcohol - Hermione chides him for it, in fact. And Slughorn seems to frink too much because of the guilt he carries at mentoring Tom Riddle. But there's no issue with the students drinking! I don't think butterbeer is actually alcoholic by canon - Jo makes a big deal out of the fact that Winky gets drunk on butterbeer in OotP, but it has never affected humans, and students start going to Hogsmeade and drinking it at 13 - Lupin even gives Harry some! I believe Jo imagined it to be the wizard equivalent of ginger beer, a British pub-served carbonated drink flavored with ginger and sugar and lemon, with some sort of magical extra deliciousness, but not booze that would make the students turn into alcoholics! Rob even talks about hoping to get fire whiskey, but isn't able to until he comes of age. Movies are movies, but the books are canon. Sometimes I think people will say or write anything to snipe at Harry Potter's success.Avatar Imagebrooke1774 says: I was fine with it and didn't really notice. But now that it's being pointed out everywhere I just have to say, "Really? Is that ALL we got when we walked out of the theater?"Avatar ImageMera004 says: I agree with Lisee_Lu's comment. The movie just showed it how it was in canon, and to be honest, I don't think butterbeer really has much alcohol in it anyway. It's more like root beer, I guess. It really only has an effect if you drink a ton of it (or if you're a house elf). Nobody in the film went on drinking rampages. I didn't even notice how much alcohol consumption was going on, until it was pointed out in this article. I don't think it makes a bad influence on kids, and if parents aren't happy with it, then they can deal with it themselves with their own children, rather than making a worldwide fuss and trying to keep it away from ALL children/teens. You're not the mother of everyone; just your own kids, sorry. =/ Avatar ImageGreenLightening says: The only scene with alcohol in it that wasn't directly from the books was the one in The Three Broomsticks. And in the books, Harry, Ron, and Hermione start ordering Butterbeer from third year on! It likely doesn't have as much alcohol as the average ale in real life (5% abv) but more like 1 - 2% abv as evidenced by the fact that one or two doesn't make the kids tipsy in the books, and that tiny Winky can consume many in a day without alcohol poisoning. Hagrid getting drunk happens in the book, and so does the mead scene. You'd think that a parent taking a 10 year old to watch such a dark movie would read the source material first and know what is in it! Seriously, people need to learn that the later books in the Harry Potter series deal with adult themes because the books matured along with the reader base. Avatar ImageZoeNecrosis says: I'm glad there are enough commentators here to voice my indignation at such an asinine article so I can get on with my day and not dwell on it, thunder satisfactorily stolen.Avatar ImageHorcruxalej says: this is sooo stupid it in the book its in the movie and if people dont like dont take your kid its the parents fault if they dont like it you dont let your kids watch porn then complain to the people that made it that there was to much nudity in it this is just stupid....... Avatar ImageMera004 says: Oh, and I also agree with realspace for pointing out that there's a lot of murder and death in the series, but apparently these people are more worried about a bit of alcohol? Seriously? Wow. Avatar ImageHorcruxalej says: oh yeah the tv! the box in the living room that is pretty much the babysitters of the kids whos parents are out complaining i would have to say that tv shows way worse thing on it then drinking a little bit..Avatar ImageMatea says: hahahah...lol...well its rated PG12,right? besides,to me it was funny and it really shows reality,doesn't it? thats modern world nowadays, isn't it? and yeah...our heros doesn't have a drinking problem.they have surveiving problem! deaths and tortures,evil! Avatar Imagejmalone says: This just reinforces that the media is too pervasive and has nothing better to do than try and drudge up trivialities to create controversy. For crying out loud, it's just a movie. The voodoo practitioners (AKA psychobabble psychologists) need to get a grip and get a life.Avatar Imageacciorusty says: *sigh* Never mind dead bodies, setting fire to everything, and watching a dead body fall from a very great height. That was all ok for a parent to tolerate. It's the drinking that's corrupting the minds of youth. The drinking!!! *sigh* As a teacher, this is my official position: if you aren't sure your kids should see it, go see it by yourself first! As a Harry Potter fan, this is my official position: Hey lady, grow a brain!Avatar ImageJadeDanielle says: Absolutely ridiculous. It did not have a "starring role". There was occasionally a little drinking, but that's all! People can be so uptight :\Avatar ImageThursdayschild says: Oh ffs - because little precious has never ever before been exposed to alcohol. /sarcasm. Give it a rest. Next time, mumsy dear, screen the movie yourself BEFORE you take your kid to it to see if there is anything objectionable (to you) in it. It's called parenting, try it, it's your job to do so - not anyone else's.Avatar Imagemynameisbrock says: jeeze people make such a big deal out of nothing. its all comical...hermione drinking that butterbeer was hilarious. and of course hagrid and slughorn drinking and singing that song haha classicAvatar Imagedcrazmo says: Um, is it just me? I assumed that butterbeer was non-alchoholic. Like "root" beer. Are these people serious?Avatar ImageWolfheart says: Wow... As many others have pointed out, I'm a bit surprised that they're making such a big fuss over the "drinking" scenes when there was torture, murder, and maiming about. Also, I was always under the impression that butterbeer was simply a delightful drink for people to enjoy, though with an ingredient that produced a drunken result in house-elves. And if it does contain alcohol, it's clearly made out in the books to be completely neglible and ineffectual to people. Out of personal preference, I hold there is no alcohol, but that's only my opinion. The "tipsy Hermione" scene that they reference, I interpreted completely differently. The times I've seen the movie, I took Hermione's actions as a sign of her exasperation at Ron's and Harry's discussion. They're walking behind her talking about what she said in the pub about kissing Ron; and considering how far along the trail they are, they've been discussing it for a while now; I can understand Hermione feeling a bit exasperated. To show she was "only joking," she puts her arms around both of her friends. Of course, Hagrid's and Slughorn's drunkenness is canon, but it's always been clear in the books that Hagrid likes his drink. I really didn't see a serious drinking problem in the movie; it's not like they come out and yell, "Hey! We're going to get drunk now! You should all do the same. Got it?" If they feel like this is a legitimate problem of course, I'm glad they're taking a stand for their views even though it does seem a bit extreme to me.Avatar Imagesakuranbo07 says: That article has gone overboard w/ their reaction to butterbeer!Avatar ImageThorgalson says: Most underage persons, and young adults, do drink. That doesn't mean they get wasted... and even if someone did get wasted in the film, how about just trying to portray realistic teenage situations? And it's not about portraying it as something good or something bad, but just about portraying reality.Avatar ImageHydrus says: Here in the flatlands of the US, they are running ads that basically attack parents who teach there children to drink responsibly. Apparently, once one turns 21 they magically can handle alcohol with no prior training. Of course, if they step out of line as an adult the punishment will be severe. Whatever.Avatar Imagemuggleslovemagick says: That's really ridiculous. It actually offends me very much that someone would take one butterbeer to such an extreme view. Besides, if your child is so impressionable as to take ONE SCENE in which the main characters have ONE DRINK and go home to become an alcoholic because of it you should probably not be taking them to see the movie in which an evil overlord uses DEAD BODIES and a teenager tries to kill a professor. Avatar ImageRin68nyr says: LOL I had to laugh at this!!! I grew up having the last bit of my Dad's beer since I was 2 years old. However I never saw my parents drunk. I am an adult now, and guess what? I hardly drink at all! The parent's influence is much more effective than anything else. If you don't want your kids seeing it...don't let them...but I saw anothing wrong with it. If you're worried, TALK to your kids! Discuss it with them! Be parents! (and I am one, so I can say that!) ErinAvatar ImageHydrus says: Oh, and Butterbeer has just enough alcohol to make a House elf tipsy. Mead is stronger. It's really good too. I had a bottle this last weekend with a friend while camping out in the countryside. But I would say it only played a 'supporting role' in the conversation. (heavy sarcasm intended)Avatar Imagecheeserpleaser says: Yes, I will agree that the drinking that the movie featured did seem excessive. However, I believe they incorporated it to reflect the environment in which most teenagers do live. The movie depicted it with the assumption of realism, with portraying with fidelity the lives that students do live. Some may not like what they see, but J.K. Rowling did not idealize the universe in which her characters lived - why should the movies?Avatar Imageginny_potter4ever says: Has anyone seen anyone at hogwarts drunk?????????? Apart from winky....Come on people get a gripAvatar Imagemollywobble says: So Hermione downs a butterbeer, and somehow that means it gave her the courage to put her arm around Ron? I didn't see it that way at all, especially since they were hanging out at his house all summer. They've been best friends for 5 years. You think that's the first time she threw her arm around him or hugged him during that time? As for Slughorn and Hagrid, I don't see how the way they acted promoted alcohol use. As a coping mechanism? Sure. However, I think having a couple glasses of mead after your best friend dies doesn't make you an alcoholic. Also, why aren't parents upset that Harry seriously injured Malfoy without any sort of repercussions? In America violence is cool, beer and sex, not so much. Avatar ImageWON_TWO says: What a dingbat this writer is... I mean really... Here you have underage children brewing up "Draughts Of Death", and love potions, and handing out lethal cursed necklaces, and you are worried about BUTTER BEER??? What a dumb ass!!! Oh, BTW would someone please hand me the bottle of Old Ogden's? Thanx & cheers!Avatar ImageRin68nyr says: By the way...butterbeer does have alcohol in it...Ron says so in GOF, but it is a very small amount. I don't think you would be able to fit enough in your stomach to get tipsy. Hey, I've served my kids chicken marsala...am I a bad mom?!!! ErinAvatar ImageBriannaWazHere says: Wow, that's stupid. I don't know what else to say. Avatar Imagemissingmarauder22 says: Wasn't Hermione drunk because Slughorn spilled his alcohol in her mug when Harry was talking to him? That's what I was thinking. I thought Butterbeer was just rootbeer. I would imagine if it was alcoholic, the Hogwarts faculty would have some problems with its use...Avatar ImageLooie says: Wow, some people just need to relax. Half of the 'drinking' in the movie was essential to the plot line, and it's not like they were full on advertising it! And I think some of the other scenes were a little more damaging to young children than the so called 'drinking'. Inferi and Katie Bell anyone? If I saw that when I was a little kid I'd have nightmares from those, rather than being permently damaged by some 'drinking'.Avatar ImageWizardWheezes851 says: I agree with every previous comment. Apparently, sixteen year olds drinking alcohol was of more concern then -Katie being cursed -Draco covered in blood -The entire inferi scene, including the part where they try and drag Harry down into the lake -Dumbledore dying -etc.,etc., etc..... I hope they didn't have a problem with all the snogging. Come on, parents. Grow up.Avatar ImageKissa says: I read that article earlier today, and it aggravated me so much!! As for Hermione being tipsy, I interpreted that as Slughorn accidentally spilling some of HIS drink into her glass when he stumbled. And yet another thing, if butterbeer even was alcoholic, except from the very tiny amount that affects the house-elves, how come we haven't seen any reactions before? From what I saw in the movie, Hermione only had one glass, and maybe another that we didn't get to see, but if you compare it with the elves that is still not enough to get her even remotely tipsy! *Maybe* in good spirits, but that is all. In my opinion this is taken completely out of context, and blown out of proportion by incredibly conservative American parents! I do not put this on all Americans, obviously, but if you look at the world at large, 16 and 18 are the most common ages when people are allowed to drink alcohol. The cultures are simply that different. It even goes as far down as 15 some places. I'm not saying whether that is good or not, I reserve my opinion when it comes to that topic of discussion, but making such a big deal out of this seems ludicrous to me. There are more serious things to worry about if you absolutely need something to worry about. Sigh.Avatar ImageHPNAIV says: Blah. Who cares what other people think of this movie? We know that this article is ridiculous. It might even be up to Rita Skeeter Standard. And I agree with the other posts - they find this drinking thing more disturbing than Draco being told to KILL, Draco covered in blood, the Sectumsempra spell, etc, etc!? Avatar ImageSybilT says: You are all so right! I haven't seen the movie yet, but I don't recall a scene in the book where Hermione acts tipsy. In GOF it is clearly stated that Butterbeer does not cause humans to become inebriated, only house-elves.Avatar ImageWizardWheezes851 says: And I NEVER interpreted her throwing her arms around Ron and Harry as her being tipsy. Maybe it was because they were her, you know....friends? I mean, sure, she likes Ron, but this is Hermione we're talking about, not Lavender, she doesn't treat him like some unattainable gorgeous guy meant only for snogging, craving his attention in the same manner that Lavender does. That's the whole point of their relationship. He's her friend first, that's why she's so awkward with him in those few scenes. It's embarrasing to have a crush on one of your best friends, no matter what gender you are. I can't believe that I can see that, and adults can't. Maybe it's just because I've read the books, I don't know. Can't they read a little more into that except "Oh, she's tipsy"? I'm sorry, but...what the hell? I can't believe this movie has been replaced by G-force in the box office. Avatar Imagehericus says: I hate stupid people like this parent! In england your aloud to drink at 18, Im from england and 19 so i know about this and in US you cant drink till 21? but anyway its a brittish film!! - and whats wrong with the occasional drink?! - get a life!!! it wasnt like they were so drunk they created violence or started vandalising things they were obviously having a good time which by the sounds of this parent hasnt had in a looong time. ( Btw I LOVE how almost every comment above cant belive what this parents going on about either! woo) Avatar Imagefloridianhp says: thats not much of a big deal.Avatar ImageCarol Carvalho says: Of course it is a ridiculous article! And here we are discussing it... everybody read it. And that is exactly what all these writers (I was going to say Dumb writer but let it be,,, I don't know the guy... it is sure a dumb analyses though) know very well, mention Harry Potter and more people will read, criticize it and people will be talking about their articles! Just that simple....Avatar ImageCarol Carvalho says: Of course it is a ridiculous article! And here we are discussing it... everybody read it. And that is exactly what all these writers (I was going to say Dumb writer but let it be,,, I don't know the guy... it is sure a dumb analyses though) know very well, mention Harry Potter and more people will read, criticize it and people will be talking about their articles! Just that simple....Avatar ImageCarol Carvalho says: sorry! didn't mean to post twice! :( Avatar Imageaquilus says: Someone needs to chill out. They are like 16-17, in the movie an age where most teens have already had at least one drink. If she is unable to explain alcohol to her child then maybe she needs to get a parenting book or be a better parent. Drinking is just part of the world. Is she going to start going in on Obama because he invited people to the White House to have a beer? 'OMG! He's promoting drinking!' Someone clearly needs to get a sense of humor and realize that it has been ages since kids and teenagers for that matter found the subject of drinking to be taboo. Avatar Imagewandmastercalum says: OMG protective parent or what? They're acting as if the movie said over "buy drink buy drink." Also the butterbeer thing... she wasn't acting tipsy! She was acting happy! Thats what it does. It makes you feel warm inside and obviously she's going to feel a bit lighter. I made my own butterbeer once and I acted exactly like her!! Parents are so stupid! Avatar ImageScarStruck says: omg REALLY that is RIDICULOUS! IM MEAN, SIRIOUSLY?hermione wasn't "tipsy"! ugh that is SO ugh! its totally stupid,like that kid is gonna remember that particular scene in that movie when they are 18 or 21 whatever! omg!i never got the idea that butterbeer was and acholholic beverage either!don't worry about death or evil,but drinking! omg there is drinking in a BUNCH of movies,not just this one. there is neve an uproar about any other films. and hagrid, its his character,im not gonna go out and get drunk just because hagrid did it in harry potter!. SOOOOOO STUPID! i think some parents just need to grow up!Avatar Imageterieb says: Are you kidding me? Avatar Imageravensmith says: this is ridiculous. ppl are always trying to find issue with HP. give it a rest ppl.Avatar ImageAelaeras says: Its just being funny, geeze.Avatar ImageDiamondWings says: please!!! I don't see anything bad! she drank it all because she was angry! Besides, everything depend on the education that those parents give to their children! and is legal in the wizards world that young wizards drink the butterbeer! and when they are drinking other stuffs they are with adult people!!! this kind of comments are really stupid! this always happen to successful movies! the press always try to show a BAD side! only to put it down!!!Avatar ImageFigment says: This happens with almost every book or movie that is as popular as the Harry Potter series. As a mother, I don't see a problem with the drink of the butterbeers in the movie, then again I raise my child and don't let tv, movies, or any other media do that for me. If these moms are so worried about, then they should explain things to the children instead of crticizing something that is meant to be entertaining.Avatar Imagetina_als_girl says: I'm with those who say Hermione was tipsy because Slughorn sloshed his drink into hers. And yes, she WAS tipsy, and I'm not just saying that 'cause she put her arms around the guys' shoulders. She was a bit on the wobbly side as she was walking. But again, I'm quite positive the reason she's tipsy is because of Slughorn dropping his drink into hers. And I always thought Winky got drunk on butterbeer because it affects house-elves differently from humans (like how in The Company novels by Kage Baker, chocolate is what makes the cyborgs drunk, not alcohol).Avatar Imagebballskw says: I didn't even realize hermione was tipsy walking back from the three broomsticks, I didn't even really think about it at all until someone else said something and this article came up and I'm a few months away from turning 21 and harry potter doesn't make me want to go out and binge drink.Avatar Imagesnoozer says: I never saw Hermione as tipsy, I thought she was just trying, but failing to be casual friend with Ron. So it was a forced how we doing buddy thing. Avatar ImageSarah Wilkes says: Actually, I feel like there was an important little running theme of "drinks" and their effects in the book, just like the theme of romance. The movie was pretty true to that. The drinking and romance is not just there for nothing. Unfortunately some of that is lost in the fact that we don't see the back story of Tom Riddle Sr. and Merope.Avatar ImageKat7 says: This is ridiculous!! Harry Potter is not the biggest threat out there influencing kids. The director shouldn't have to cut any scenes because of drinking. If you don't like it don't watch the movie! Your the one who's missing out!Avatar Imagetroyalg says: She's the mother of a Harry Potter fan? Well she obviously doesn't care what her kid's read, just see, because the HP books have lots of alcohol. I think the US has an uptight attitude toward drinking, which is why there is such a problem with it here. In Europe especially, it's a part of life. Get over it. Avatar Imagegoldish_red says: LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. At least these mothers provide for good entertainment. That's all they deserve, though - to be laughed at. No need to waste any brainpower on them. Avatar ImageHereticPrincess says: ooooooh! please!!!!! ..... ¬¬ they are talking as if we were some kind of stupid and susceptibles... today, kids watch more preocupant things on tv, or internet. besides, nobody start drinking because some actor in some movie did it.. the education of the kid will be more important than a movie.. and heasr this... THEY SHOULDN'T SEE THE SIMPSONS, BECAUSE HOMER IS ALWAYS DRUNK IN MOE'S BAR!!!!!!!! XD this people dont have nothing to do, say b*******th about HP. go hell, muggles!! Avatar ImageHagrid 713 says: I agree totally with Lisee_Lu's point - teach yur kids yourself - don't depend on the media being "right" to do it for youAvatar ImageHPTwilightGirl says: I don't really see what the big deal is. Plus, I didn't even think about it until this article. Avatar ImageChetti says: This article just goes to show that some people will pull anything out and make a huge deal out of it. They have been drinking butterbear since the 3rd book/movie whenever they go to Hogsmead they go to the 3 Broomsticks.. I always thought that butterbear was something sparkling cider or rootbear.. looks like alcohol but isn't actually alcohol. Now, Hermione may have been a bit buzzed if some of the drink that slughorn spilled got in her glass, but I doubt it was enough to do anything. Dumbledore talks about having "a large brandy" in POA, at Hagrids hut.. soo Hagrid keeps brandy around. No big deal there. If the thing that stuck out most was the DRINKS in the movie, this person was looking for something to gripe about. Because ya know, the sectumsempra scene was soooo lame and there was nothing that could bother kids at all (end sarcasm).. I think I'd be more concerned about kids seeing that, draco bleeding from everywhere, than some drinking that could be explained by any parent.. like alcohol should be even if it wasn't seen in hbp (or any other movie). Avatar ImageLord Dumbledore says: If they are ten years old and don't know what alcohol is you haven't done your job as a parent.stop complaining!Avatar Imagehpfreak7 says: OMG its butterbeer why don't you find out what the movie is rated before you start complaining about the movie people get killed and thats alot worse its butterbeer is there actually any proof that it was the butterbeer that made her act like that? or maybe hermione was just having some fun!!!!Avatar Imagehpfreak7 says: OMG its butterbeer why don't you find out what the movie is rated before you start complaining about the movie people get killed and thats alot worse its butterbeer is there actually any proof that it was the butterbeer that made her act like that? or maybe hermione was just having some fun!!!!Avatar ImageNecrotoxin says: Wait till Deathly Hollows, and they have the knife to Hermione. They will forget all about the butterbeer, and start complaining about the violence. Avatar Imagesnowyowl77 says: Hermione was acting tipsy...well, honestly, I didn't absolutely relate her behaviour to the Butterbeer she drank. Perhaps, some people have nothing important to worry about and so end up pointing out things like that...what about some really bloody and violent videogames and movies (even cartoons) kids are exposed to? By the way...I always thought Butterbeer was non-alcoholic... Avatar ImageBrosia23 says: Harry Potter books are a dark tale about good verses evil and the ultimate sacrifice. The movies do a wonderful job of interpreting such deep works into a wide spread medium. They have issue with a few drinks, but showing the mentor and spark for the main character dying, that is alright. A child was shown being killed 2 movies ago, and they are pissy because Hermione finally loosened up. In the novels butterbeer is indicated as a warming drink. And it may have some mild intoxicating effects, as shown with the house elf, Winky. As for Hagrid getting drunk, he was morning the loss of an old friend, and it is custom in that part of the world to drink to their memory. And the lush of a potions master was shown clearly to enjoy the luxury of good food and drink. And a word for that fan that is slightly too young to be seeing such a sad movie, the first 2/3 of the movie had to be done in a comedic fashion to offset the ultimate depression that follows the ending.Avatar Imagedarkprincess637 says: I don't understand this. I mean, sure, there was drinking, but this movie was clearly meant for more of a teenager audience than before, not little kids. Besides, what does it matter if they were drinking if the kids these parents are worrying about were too young to understand it anyway?Avatar ImageLadyCake says: I don't mean any harm, but isn't the drinking age in Britain lower than it is in America. If so, then weren't the trio well within their rights to have a butterbeer. Especially considering that the age of adulthood is 17 in the wizarding world. I think the author of this article should have taken these circumstances into consideration before writing this article. As is obviously evident, these stories take place in England, NOT the US, so law, rules, etc. are a good bit different.Avatar ImageLadyCake says: I would like to add that the trio are 16 years old in the Half-Blood Prince, if I'm not mistaken. If I am, I apologize, but if not, she defeated her own purpose with this article.Avatar Imagebengtson_98 says: Umm seriously... They are worried about a 10 year old watching Hermoine get drunk. ..(which she stated she didn't think her daughter understood anyway) HELLO wheres the worry in the death and fighting and all the dark magic... Hmmm what about the bathroom scene were Harry almost kills Draco and the blook is every where!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jezzz people tend to take the fun out of EVERYTHING!! Get over it!Avatar ImageDolemite says: Wow, I need to meet this woman. I have some lumps of coal and I bet if I put them in the right place I'll have diamonds in no time.Avatar Imagebengtson_98 says: AND PLUS IT IS MAKE BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't get me wrong I Love Harry Potter but it isn't real and the drinking age could be totally different in the Wizarding world .. Plus they might not even have a drinking age.. if you notice they drink Butterbeer all through the booksAvatar ImageDSchrupp says: Oh, get over it. It's a movie! The scenes involving alcohol were funny, as there were meant to be. Be a parent to your children and if they are too young to get it, then ignore it, and if they ask about it explain honestly to them. As a teacher, I took absolutely no offense to the scenes.Avatar ImageRobbie Rowe says: Yay, I am gonna go drinking and fall all over the place then get hit by a car and ruin my life. YEAH! Hardly. I would NEVER ruin my life in such a grotesque manner, willingly or not. I think this poinion is highly misguided and that there are a lot of worse things for children and teenagers to copy off of, such as Dexter, Smallville, Death Note, Skins... these things should not be copied off of in any way if you want my opinion. People should learn to make decisions by what they perhaps think is right or maybe even learn from what people say and not what they do. For example, in Tim Burton's 1989 film Batman, the characters kill people, but do not say it is wrong or right. Morality only ever truly matters in REALality. At least that is what I think.Avatar Imagehrslvr529 says: Really?!? This is what people have to complain about is the amount of alcohol that is consumed in the movie?!? The scene with Hermione was cute, but it sure didn't make me want to go out and drink! And the scene with Slughorn and Hagrid happened in the book, so why shouldn't it be in the movie? Maybe the movie should have rated higher than PG if moms are concerned next time.Avatar ImageAwakened says: Seriously, it's just nitpicking at this point; there are far worse things for parents to worry about. In fact, alcohol is only a big deal in this country because people make it one. We actually employ reverse psychology by putting such a big taboo on alcohol - it becomes desirable. If they want to blame anyone, they should blame themselves.Avatar ImageRhiannon7 says: I guess the violent death of a major character is nothing compared to the implication of teen drinking for uptight Prohabitionists. (BTW I believe in the UK the age of majority is 16) Avatar ImageWingardium Leviosa says: I'm not even sure if Butterbeer is alcoholic, because they drank it in third year. But even though it shouldn't matter, it does seem like there was quite a bit of drinking in that movie. Avatar ImageGiant Fairy says: again...some person who loves to see her name printed finds something , congratulations. We had that drinking discussion in our german HP Forum before, Hagrid, Winky, all the Professors including Fudge ordering harder stuff at Rosmerta s... For the European folks your american attitude is quite funny, you are not allowed to drink in public, you have to be adult or even older to order a beer(which in Bavaria counts as "basic food" by the way, invented by Monks..), but you can join the army and get shot perfectly sober. If ever they try and make a politically correct film, it ll be boring! Mrs "Seemynameprinted", are you sure your 10year old daughter never saw Grandpa being tipsy from chrismas eggnog???Avatar ImageHermione Elizabeth says: Come on! This is all ridiculous! They act like this is the first film to ever have alcohol in it! And I agree with others stating that watching movies with alcohol in it, does not make the kids want to drink... its what they experience at home that does! If this is the only thing that parents are worrying about in these films then they should be happy... especially with all the drugs and sex scenes in other teen movies that are out now. Besides, I never saw Butterbeer as "actual beer" anyways... I thought it was like root beer or something to that affect... it wouldn't be anything too alcholic in my opinion anyways. And if parents are so worried about this stuff in the movies then they shouldn't have let their kids read the books, since all this is in the books to begin with.Avatar ImageHermione Elizabeth says: Come on! This is all ridiculous! They act like this is the first film to ever have alcohol in it! And I agree with others stating that watching movies with alcohol in it, does not make the kids want to drink... its what they experience at home that does! If this is the only thing that parents are worrying about in these films then they should be happy... especially with all the drugs and sex scenes in other teen movies that are out now. Besides, I never saw Butterbeer as "actual beer" anyways... I thought it was like root beer or something to that affect... it wouldn't be anything too alcholic in my opinion anyways. And if parents are so worried about this stuff in the movies then they shouldn't have let their kids read the books, since all this is in the books to begin with.Avatar ImageHermione Elizabeth says: Come on! This is all ridiculous! They act like this is the first film to ever have alcohol in it! And I agree with others stating that watching movies with alcohol in it, does not make the kids want to drink... its what they experience at home that does! If this is the only thing that parents are worrying about in these films then they should be happy... especially with all the drugs and sex scenes in other teen movies that are out now. Besides, I never saw Butterbeer as "actual beer" anyways... I thought it was like root beer or something to that affect... it wouldn't be anything too alcholic in my opinion anyways. And if parents are so worried about this stuff in the movies then they shouldn't have let their kids read the books, since all this is in the books to begin with.Avatar Imageele0206 says: ok, this people is clearly OVERREACTING! gosh, do you have any idea of what kids see on tv every day? semi-naked women, violence, drugs...there's violence even in cartoons. And now they start complaining about HP growing up a bit? Avatar Imagerogue-bludger says: Oh-my-god...people really have way to much time on their hands! People need to find better things to do with their lives then to complain. It's like people need to complain to be happy! I think it is ridiculous that people are actually complaining about a "drinking problem" in the new movie! I think that parents should be more concerned about their children watching things like Gossip Girl, and maybe even Twlight, and listening to inappropriate music. In Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, it's not like they are promoting drinking and saying it's a bad thing, in fact they're doing the opposite. They are saying that love potion is bad and could lead to bad things, mead could poison you, and Felix Felicis could get you expelled or something! And about the Butterbeer and Hermione, come off it! So, maybe she was a little tipsy, but it's not like she had mug after mug after mug of Butterbeer. She had one. And maybe they weren't even displaying that she was drunk. So, worry more about your children watching Gossip Girl, and Twilight and listening to inappropriate music, because they are far far worse examples than Harry Potter is. Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince is an amazing film, I think the best one out of all of them so far. Dan, Emma and Rupert gave their best performance yet and were amazing in this. So were Tom and Bonnie and the rest of the cast. Maybe if people weren't focused on the "drinking" in the movie, they would realize how amazing this film is. I think that this is a slightly juvenile thing to complain about. If your going to complain about anything, let it be the violence in this film, which is a much better complaint than the drinking! Yes, I do realize that drinking is a big issue, and I fully understand that, and I do think that there are some forms of media that do promote drinking in a horrible way, but to go so far as to complain about "drinking" in Harry Potter! Please! Let it go, people, relax, loosen up and for heaven's sake, stop complaining!Avatar ImageHudMug1712 says: the film kept the stuff in the books true! FFS does everyone have to be so politically correct? after all the film is a 12A or PG13 and so it is the parents responsibility to think their children should see hagrid fainting, or hermione being a bit merrier than usualAvatar Imagefinny says: oh for christ sake! 1st of all, the film only tries to be as accurate as the book and if that mother didn't understand that sometimes the adults - JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE - drink alcohol when they feel like it in the book while reading it to her son/daughter i think she has nothing to come babling about alcohol and idiotic stuff... 2nd of all, her son/daughter does not need to be influenced by a film seen in the theatre, because that her son/daughter can pick bad influences by thheir friends, neighbours, parents family for sure... 3rd and last one of all, in the books, was never explicitally told that butterbear had alcohol in it... AND why do parents read books to theis kids if they are not even in the age to understand that santa claus do not exist?? HP IS NOT a only for kids books. It may start with a young kid that does not know about life, but the books are about to show how can the character grow, aprehend the environment and evolve. This is a given... And I'm sure that what JKRowling wanted to show: that even though in a different 'world', kids and adults may have the same problems, conflicts and also the same joys and pleasures. HP is not about obscuring the mind of a young kid in order to hide from them the darkness of the world they live in!Avatar Imagetracy ford says: My goodnes the Hermione doesn't need alcohal for encouragement. She has always had confidence. She also has alway hugged Harry and Ron if you look at the past movies you'd see that. In the Order of the Phoenix I recall ron asking Hermione, who are you and what have you done with Hermione. Because she was acting gigly and tipsy thats just Hermione. The movie was good I didn't think anything bad about it. Tracy FordAvatar Imagegoodenough says: This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. People are hystericals. There is a lot of more sirius issus that alcohol in the world! And in this film and they comment on the alcholol!! Oh my God! I've always liked the fact that they drink alcohol in the seris, It seems like a natrual part of it all..Avatar ImageEdna_Turnblad says: That is SO stupid! Drinking was hardly featured, and when it was, it was as it was in the books. Hermione 'drunk' was just a fun way to show her, and when I watched the movie, I didn't even get the feeling that she was drunk, maybe that's because I didn't hear what they sad. But still.Avatar Imagebudgie says: Actually the inferi were what I would worry about showing to young folks. Nightmares anyone?Avatar ImageKirsikka says: They're so annoying, it's not like they've really drank anything. Can't they just stop being such pains? come on. It's not like they did drugs and stuff like that.Avatar Imageenchantedsocks says: Me thinks the author doth exaggerate - alcohol is not in scene after scene of HBP (and butterbeer doesn't count). And I find her description of Hermione rather insulting; as if young girls will see this and think the best way to get closer to the boy they like is to consume vast amounts of alcohol?!Avatar ImageAtticus says: Just the media finding some other asinine B.S to whinge about, nothing new.Avatar ImageIwnt2bHP says: Funny how they needed to keep butterbeer in the movie to "remain as faithful to the source material as created by J.K. Rowling" but didn't see a need for...say, Dumbledore's funeral!!!!Avatar ImageLillylove says: Oh please! Yes, alcohol is present, but I certainly didn't feel like it was even CLOSE to the "OMG concern level." I am an "older" HP fan & did not feel the use of alcohol in this film in anyway condoned alcohol in excess or promoted drunkeness. You know, to be honest, it wasn't even something I particularly noticed. It amazes me the way some folks have to always find SOMETHING to harp about. I suppose all the blood, guts, & horrific violence that many parents allow their children to watch is OK, as long as they don't pick up a glass of wine on the way to the murder! Crikey. Avatar Imagemakandcheese says: The whole Hermione getting drunk thing didn't even happen in the books, and WB is like, "We want to remain faithful to the material..." way to try to defend yourselves! And butterbeer can't be that alchoholic anyway, because Lupin gave it to Harry in Third Year. But Harry Potter doesn't focus on drinking too much. Stupid New York Times.Avatar ImageWeasleyBoy says: This stupid woman doesn't understand that the main theme of the book/movie is addiction (hbp book, felix felicis, love potion,) !Avatar Imagereadhp1008 says: They were drinking butterbeer when they were thirteen! They make a big deal out of it now I think it doesn't matter when you are a wisard!Avatar ImageFereverto says: Good thing they don't read the books and realize how wizards metabolize chocolate or they'd be carping about that too! Obsessing over butterbeer is just silly. IMHO, of course. I wonder why wizards like pumpkins juice so much. You think there's more there than just vegetable squeezings? Hummm? Perhaps that needs looking into also. ;p Avatar ImageTonks1 says: First and foremost Herminone was not drunk!!!! One butterbeer would not do that. Herminone has hugged Ron and Harry for the past seven years. She does not need to get tiptsy to do so. This women should get her facts in order before putting pen to paper. I think this was a gross misuse of her position to voice her opinion, based on her lack of knowledge of "cannon", in the paper. If the NYT's would like to give space to the fandom of HP so that they can rebutt her editorial that would be nice. Lady, be a parent and view the movie, book, play, concert, etc before you let your "child" see it. Then you would not have to voice an opinion at all. Oh, by the way, I am a mother.Avatar Imagefelicitas says: I find this hilarious! There are scenes of Death Eaters and Inferi and they're worried about alcohol.Avatar ImageSindi says: its ridiculous ... thats all i have to say... all they want is to talk bad about harry.... Avatar ImageFloridianFlounder95 says: I didn't know Hermione was drunk at first to be honest, people are making a big deal out of something that was just put there to be funny. This is exactly why the movie shouldn't have been PG, people complaining about it's influence on young children. Everyone knows the books weren't targeted at kids passed the third, study up on things before you go and complain about it. It makes giggle to be honest.Avatar ImageMimblewimble13 says: I wanted to type a comment on this article but I am too drunk because watching HBP has turned me into an alcoholic. LOL.Avatar Imagesmgkkg says: oh please! get a life! But could someone explain butterbeer? Avatar Imageflyingporkeypine says: That's just dumb. If you were a good parent, you shouldn't have to worry about your kids being so easily influenced by movies because you would know that your kids know better than that (eh? I hope that came out right...). And if movies really did influence your kid that much and that easily, then there is something obviously wrong with your parenting...Avatar Imageauerbyhour says: this is sooo not necessary lets get a grip people!!! Avatar ImageKarliMeaghan says: Everything else that has to be said has been said by other commenters, so I'm just going to roll my eyes at this article.Avatar ImageJillxoxo says: That Warner Brothers response is nothing but a steaming pile of cow patties! In the book, Hermione does NOT get tipsy on butterbeer. The trio aren't even in a good mood when they leave The Three Broomsticks. Page 248 reads, "It had not been a fun trip and the weather was getting worse the longer they stayed." What the filmmakers did was not interpretation - it was fabrication. How dare WB try to dump responsibility on Jo Rowling! Avatar Imagealbus1881 says: ALCOHOL? WHAT? ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME? These people have CLEARLY not read the books!! in Goblet of Fire Harry CLEARLY says "but butterbeer's not strong stuff" - and if in fact they HAVE read the books then they are IDIOTS!!! who should learn to appreciate that Harry Potter is awesome - leave it at that! though they might have accentuated the "alcohol content" in the movie (and possibly in butterbeer) it was purely for comedic justice! you know, what artists use to make things FUNNY!! and yes, the characters in this book (and movie) DO drink alcohol, but not in butterbeer, and they're NOT underage - what was the word again? oh right!: IN THEIR WORLD!! you know, that magical place that WIZARDS live in?? to end my rant, PEOPLE ARE IDIOTS!!!!!Avatar Imagehplove4life says: WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I loved the scene in Hagrid's hut because one minute harry is all serious then completly stupid repeating the word "poof"!!!!! I loved HBP and thought it was the funniest movie yet!!!!! I saw the midnight opening on mega screen and the whole theater was cracking up almost he whole movie!!!!!!!!!!! HARRY POTTER RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Avatar ImageMorgaineLeFay says: I think a lot of this comes from the American attitude towards drinking. I am from the U.S. and it seems that America alternately applauds and shuns the activity... meaning, it goes along with everything from ballgames, rock concerts to frat parties (in movies as well as in real life), but abuse of it is a very large problem (wonder why?). I've long thought that the hyper-critical judgmental viewpoints that lead to articles and opinions such as this come from our country's puritanical routes, as well as hypersensitivity to the possibility of being judged for actions that would in any way cause negative opinions on us. We have become a nation that is so politically correct that we're watching every move we make and every word we speak. Department of Child and Family Services jumps in at the very suggestion of abuse. We have become so disgustingly aware that everyone is critical of anything and everything, including children's movies. I'm a recovering alcoholic. I've ready the HP books many times. I love them, and I don't think that they would send me out on a relapse. When we went to see the Half Blood Prince, my friend's 11 year old son said "He's high" over and over again when we saw the scene where Harry takes the Felix Felicity potion, and I thought that was disturbing, not because of the movie or its contents necessarily, but because of HIS reaction to seeing someone looking a bit "off" or goofy. I've often wondered: if the US weren't so completely obsessed with drinking, if we didn't glorify and then criticize its consumption, if we would have such a problem with it to begin with. I've always thought that butterbeer was a type of soft drink (with the exception of Winky, we never see any of the characters get drunk from the stuff), just like pumpkin juice is a sort of vegetable drink (think carrot juice). I think the writer of this article is taking it way too seriously... I can recall a few movies that I watched as a young teen: Fast Times at Ridgemont High, Porkies, Animal House... they weren't exactly alcohol free (not to mention sex and violence). But I don't blame them for my being an alcoholic. Really, it IS up to the parents to supervise and screen what kids watch. All this article really serves to accomplish is to call attention to the fact that we, as Americans, tend to blame others for our problems. That, and we like to sue people. Makes me want to become an ex-patriot, myself!Avatar ImageLoyalGryffindor90 says: When I was reading the books, it never crossed my mind that butterbeers were alcoholic beverages. I always thought that they were a wizard's version of root beer, which is definitely non-alcoholic. With regards to the movie, I thought that Hermione was just having a good time with her best friends. I do not believe she was drunk. She did not seem "tipsy" to me when she wrapped her arms around the boys while walking back to Hogwarts. It was not like she was tripping and falling all over the place and being incoherent. If that was the case, I would think Harry and Ron would carry her back. For crying out loud, a drunk person would not have reacted like she did when Katie Bell was cursed. Someone like that would have said, "Oooohh, look at that flying girl in the air" in a dreamy and incoherent way. To tell you the truth, I really did not pay much attention to the drinking, especially when you consider the events which take place before and after the scenes. In that sense, it was not very obvious. However, it cannot be denied that films and other forms of media do have the ability to influence people's behavior for good and for ill. There have been people who have done unfortunate things because they saw it in a movie, and thought it was okay to do it in actual life. These parents have every right to be concerned about the drinking if they believe their children might try to emulate it. In the end, this is not a big deal, and is probably the work of those who have always hated Harry Potter, and are jealous of its stunning success.Avatar ImageWicca says: If she had taken the time to read the books and picked over them like she did this movie. Then she would know there is NO ALCOHOL in Butterbeer! For crying out loud...Get a life Lady! Avatar ImageSeveraSphyrna says: Ignoring the fact that people complaining about drinking in HBP need to get a life...why does the NYT think this is newsworthy? We do have more important things to worry about these days. By the way, I don't recall people complaining about book!Trelawney. LOL: http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/64296516/433159 Avatar Imagepixi_jo says: Hahaha! I was always surprised by the LACK of alcohol in all of the other films! I had always thought that they had made some kind of deal w/anti-alcohol groups. This woman has certainly never read the books, as drinking is even more prevelent there. Trelawney is a borderline alcoholic, and Winky certainly has a drinking problem. I saw nothing innapropriate with the drinking in the film.Avatar ImagePigmyPuffPie says: This article shows how mainstream media is going down the toilet.Avatar Imagetayler18 says: Oh my gosh! That is so stupid! Who cares....Avatar ImageAnnieW says: I would like to just say that no matter what a child sees, hears, or expierences, the parenting behind them should delegate what choices that they make. I saw my peers drinking in high school but I did not partake myself because I knew that I was too young and immature to handle it and my parents would kill me. Also in Europe it is more common for families to partake, even children, they'll mix wine with a bit of water. I believe that they handle it much better than just "pretending" alchohol, drugs and sex do not happen until a child is 18 or 21. Thats why we have so many problems with these issues in the united states, or that's why I personally believe we have so many problems with these issues in the united states. Get over it, its all fiction in the end.Avatar ImageKarmaHunter says: I always saw butterbeer as a type of soda...y'know? Likre rootbeer and for all that lady knows maybe Hermione just felt like laughing and being silly...Avatar ImageDeanie says: Actually, in the UK children as young as 5 may be given alcohol in their own home if given to them by their parents or guardians. At 16 they may legally go into a Pub and order alcohol if accompanied by an "adult" (I think that means someone 18 or older, not necessarily a parent or guardian). In the US there used to be a product called Near Beer that was 0.5% alcohol. it was considered to be "non-alcoholic" and was legally sold to minors with no age restrictions. Most of the colonists lived on cider with no preservatives and the longer it sat in the barrels, the more it fermented. Yes, they gave it to the children as well as the adults drinking it. We knew from Winky that Butterbeer had some alcohol content, but in the books, it seemed too weak to affect humans of 13 and up. Its greatest effect seemed to be on the tiny (knee high or less to an adult human) non-human species. In very recent times there has been widespread consumption of low alcohol drinks in much of Europe and there are advocates to bring it back: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_in_Belgium#Table_beer Read the entry on Table Beer. Some of these people need to learn a little before condeming a work of fiction that really just mirrors real, everyday practices. ;)Avatar ImageParkinsonpansy says: Parents drink in front of kids every now and then its not a bad thing to show a short clip of them drinking something and for all we know that drink could have had lots of sugar in it!!! Avatar ImageAmy Darlene says: i always thought butterbeer was just like the equivilant of Root Beer... in the series it only makes Winky tipsy.... it's firewisky that they keep talking about.... and they keep getting shut down... unitil Mad Eye's death...and then it's a sign of mourning...and not a joyous event at all.. Avatar ImageKimerblyAnn says: I haven't read the other comments....but I would hope these children don't watch Looney Tunes or any of our oh-so-innocent Disney classics. They are full of alcohol, gun play, and a bit of an innuendo or 2. If Harry Potter is poisoning their innocent children....they should steer clear of every other media directed toward children. People are ridiculous, think about what you saw growing up...Your kids are fine!Avatar ImageLunaMum says: omg, really? first of all my kids are 11, 9 & 8 and they are hip enough to realize that things are a little more liberal in the UK, oh, and these kids are NOT REAL. It's kind of like asking if they used too much magic as a coping mechanism. If you ask me it's a miracle Harry isn't a falling down drunk by now .Avatar ImageErinM says: Sectumsempra scene with a bloody Draco or three friends and a butterbeer. Really people, get a grip. I'm a mom of two, took both to see the movies three times. Neither of my kids made any comment about drinking, but they sure were glued to their seats when Draco was on the bathroom floor and when the inferi grabbed Harry into the depths of the lake. Parental guidance, common sense and a healthy dose of reality will help children to understand these movies. We don't need a national anti-alcohol campaign because Hermione put her arm around Harry and Ron. Some people will complain about anything. If you don't like it, don't watch it but don't stand on a soap box and yell at the rest of us.Avatar Imagemegan_702 says: oh come one! big deal!! i didn't even notice that!! i thought the scene of hermione acting a bit different was funny!! there is no drinking problem!! Avatar Image1pottyfan says: it just shows that it takes parent and adults to notice the mead... like what the hell were they thinking. jacobAvatar ImagePineappleCrush says: These remarks are about as bad as saying that Harry used too much magic as a coping mechanism. It's FICTION! I'd wager that these parents who are complaining probably thought there was too much violence in Pocahontas or that Ariel in the Little Mermaid was too scandalously clad. Give me a break! I thought it was all very natural and followed the book. The butterbeer scene with Hermione was a bit cheeky, but it was in the movie (in my opinion) to show how the relationship drama is effecting Hermione. She doesn't normally do that, like they say she's "tight-laced" but my goodness, even if you're tight-laced you should be allowed to let loose once! I think it also showed the Trio as growing up. Hermione didn't even DO anything in that scene--she was just giggly. It's also evident that in the Wizarding World drinking butterbeer is okay because they've been doing it since their first year!! The scene with Hagrid and Slughorn was a form of remorse and coping. They're adults. I'm pretty sure we've all seen adults drunk when we were children; It happens. This is just someone trying to complain about something. They need to find something more constructive to complain about; how about the injustices of modern day politics, starving children in literally every country in the world, etc., etc?Avatar Imagetinagin says: Some people just have too much time on their hands. Jeez!!! *shakes head*Avatar ImageLuce_depp says: yeah the hermione thing was a little bit odd... but hagrid is an adult he can do what he likes. You can't prevent ur child from drinking when they are that age. Avatar ImageCandyCane2304 says: Thing's like this make me ashamed of living in the US. We act so sensitive to certain thing's that it's embarrassing.Avatar ImageScottMan says: I suppose it's time to add "drug and/or alcohol use" to ratings descriptions, like they do with video games. Either that, or fine people for public whining.Avatar ImageLuce_depp says: yeah the hermione thing was a little bit odd... but hagrid is an adult he can do what he likes. You can't prevent ur child from drinking when they are that age. Avatar Imagegoodegogo says: Well gess those people just have to remember that most movies are worseAvatar ImageHattFerg says: This is ridiculous!! Avatar ImagePaperback Writer says: Lol! This is brilliant…who cares about fight scenes, sudden death, teacher/student threats? No!!! Let’s make a big deal because we saw Hermione laughing a little more than usual. Gosh, some people are unbelievable… P.S: There’s probably nothing that gives me more curiosity than tasting butterbeer… it’s frustrating not to be able to! Avatar ImageThio says: Oh sure... Harry Potter is the cause behind underage drinking! C'mon!! First of all: this is ridiculous! Second of all: don't ever expect WB to worry about what they are teaching your children! Learn to educate them yourself and teach them what is right and wrong! That way they will always know what is good for them and you can stop whinning about some comedy scenes in a summer movie!Avatar Imagewatchmen_roadkiller says: wow, what do you expect? books aren't supposed to be about rainbows and butterflies. since when is it a crime to portray life?Avatar ImageJewunit says: funny....Avatar ImageBookwormjules says: 'This is a stupid article. And the scene when Hermione gets "butterbeer" on her, was not because she "slopped" it on her self, it was a foaming drink, and it was part of the whole "teens are awkward" theme, and her embarrassing herself in front of Ron, who she obviously has a crush on. Not to mention, Hello it's the wizard world, where wizards become adults at 17. Like some other poster, I find it weird that in a movie where Harry slices open Draco with a spell and is shown to not have any kind of punishment (book it happens, but movie, all he did was have to "give up his book" as if it were some addiction), but teens drinking butterbeer, to which Rowling never said exactly how alcohol filled it is....... sigh. Every HP movie we have to get a few articles about how its influencing are precious breakable youth, for part 1 of DH, what do you think it will be? Causes youth to want to run off on camping trips?Avatar ImageAndreaB09 says: Oh, boo-hoo your daughter doesnt understand drinking? but she seems fully aware that it is a magical world where people can fly, and curse, and create things out of thin air,.....ya sure. That makes perfect sense (note sarcasm)!Avatar ImageLoSushi says: goshh. people are just jealous that harry potter is such a great franchise that they have to frame something on it. just like the Minisrty of Magic in OotP. people these days. lol : )Avatar Imagebiiigbob says: My goodness, the characters have been drinking butter beer since the first book. If it was an alcoholic drink, they wouldn't have it served to them at age 11 would they?Avatar Imageapril_showers says: There must not be much news to report. I mean, it's the NYT. Seriously? And I agree with others: Nevermind the girl who screamed and flew into the air, or the Inferi, or the old man that was flung off a tower, or Ron being poisoned. We shouldn't expose ten year olds to vague, humorous scenes involving alcohol.... And I don't even drink. Also, no way did the ten year old not understand what was going on. She's ten years old! Avatar ImageRemusRox says: And an old man falling off a tower isn't as bad as the implied drinking...Avatar Imagebudgie says: And I thought Hermione was just feeling good for being with friends.Avatar Imagetomboy54 says: Ok, if you are bothered when you take your kids to this movie and are bothered by the drinking, but not the ending scenes, I think that is a bit out of order. I must say that I was surprised when the movie was made PG, but I still think that if the parents were concered about something enough to write about it after seeing it and was planning on taking their kids to it, I would think that parent would have been concered enough to watch the commercials before hand and perhaps read the book to know what might be coming. And if the problem they have with it is the little drinking involved and not the fighting or death scene, I think there is something wrong with that. And if they had a problem with there kids seeing the fighting and death scenes, then I think it is their own faults. The commercials showed what the feeling of the movie was and it was darker, and they could have read the book to actually know what was coming. I think they need to get something else to complain about. And I thought Butterbeer was non-alcoholic? Remember in the third movie when Harry couldn't go to Hogsmead, but Ron and Hermione went just the two of them? Didn't Ron come back telling Harry that he needed to try the Butterbeer when he got to go? I think that if Butterbeer was alcoholic, third years would NOT be drinking it all the time. Butterbeer seems to be one of the more common drinks of the wizarding world besides pumpkin juice. And the deal about Hermione putting her arms around Harry and Ron afterwards does NOT need to be the result of alcohol. Is Hermione not allowed to do anything that is not up-tight? Everyone needs a break every-now-and-then especially seeing as it is a Hogsmead weekend, perfect time wouldn't you think? Even Hermione can take a break for 2 SECONDS!Avatar Imagedcsbelle says: "...rampant drinking," "scene after scene drinking..." "so many scenes showing drinking as a coping mechanism." Did she see the same movie I did?Avatar ImageBritski says: Hahaha, you have to laugh. Unless these kids have been living under a rock they would have seen worse scenarios by just going out at night. Another thing: if they were upset about the drinking in this film, wait till the blood and torture in the next two films :) Avatar Imagesyren says: I always thought all the drinking in HBP was a potions master hint.Avatar Imagehoras1 says: If any of you are oldenough to remember it? This is what it is if you don't have a real story make one up. Create the news don't tell you what the news is. Truth means nothing its making a buck that counts. I always knew butterbeer had a small amount of alchohol but it seemed part of the wizard culture. To the members of the press who write this junk. Boo horas1 Avatar ImageHPHealer says: Well, I can save my time and just say "ditto" to the sentiments that everyone has expressed so far! (I agree that those parents ought not bring their kids to the next two movies-- with the touture and death.)Avatar ImagePhylis says: It (the article) made it sound as if every 5 minutes or every scene change had alcohol in it. *sigh* After all the commercials on tv they are worried about this?Avatar ImagePadfootLover4ever says: I really didn't even notice. It isn't a big deal at all...plus butterbeer isn't alchoholic. Only house elves can get drunk off of butterbeer...this is dumb.Avatar ImageLucia Meadows says: "Don't go to them Harry Potter movies, 'cuz everyone's drunk!" There's always something controversial with Harry, but he still survives.Avatar ImagePadfootLover4ever says: ok making something clear: Only house elves can get drunk off buttebeer. Wizards don't. That was confirmed...Avatar Imagesanimagus says: whinings of an of an over reactive columnist..... I didn't even notice such a thing until i read this. There are far more dangerous things children are watching in movies and on TV.Avatar ImageThe Hollow says: The reasons that house elves can get drunk with butterbeer is due to it being strong enough to effect them (and if, like Winky, they drink it constantly). There would seem to be some alcohol in butterbeer, but very small amounts that wouldn't cause a person to get drunk. It only warms the drinker. Now, if this is the fuss we're going to get, then the reporter better not watch DH because that's when the trio and the rest drink Fire Whiskey. Still, I am awed at how it took 5 years before someone to complain about alcohol useage in HBP...not to mention the many references in the other books. I mean, what's next, people complaining about pipe smoking? And, forgive me, we were warned a year ago, by David Yates, that the film would contain an atmosphere of "sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll." Remember when we were scared for the film after that statement, but all we got was a tipsy Hermione, a snogging Ron & Lavender (and several un-named students), a drunken Hagrid & Slughorn, and a dazed/high Harry off of Felix Felicis. The outcome was better than what we imagined. Remember imagining the 6th film being nothing but students doing drugs and having sex, because of Yates' comment. Seriously, the films have grown (like the books) apart from its original "kid-friendly" books. Jo wanted the characters to grow and mirror serious issues. The films have started growing into more adult emotions. That's one reason why some critics like this HP film above the others, because it appears more adult-friendly. And honestly, this film was far tamed compared to movies like Superbad and teen movies in theaters today...far more tamed!Avatar Imagedeadtree says: I was a little surprised that the movie managed to squeak by with a PG rating in the US for that fact alone-- nevermind Inferi and whatnot. But then again I've never understood parents who blindly take children to see movies that they know nothing about simply because of the rating, either: if they'd read the books or done a little research they'd know what to expect. If I had a 10-year-old I don't think I'd take her to see HBP. Pretty sure the hero of the story nearly killing another young man would prevent me from doing that. I don't think she'd understand that, either. Avatar Imagewhitetiger says: I think that people should remember that it's just a movie. And it is butterbeer and not real beer .Avatar Imagealegria35 says: Why would some people exert effort bashing a film because it shows some characters drinking? Does that overshadow the lesson of the movie? Get a life, will you lady who wrote those stuff. If you are truly a fan, and you've read the books, there's nothing wrong with Hagrid passing out because of too much drinking, because he had just buried Aragog. And with Hermione acting strange after a butterbeer drink, it just exaggerated something on the book, it's not even in the book at all. Why give reason to every characters' movement on the movie?... OMG.. get a life people!! Watch G-force for all I care..Avatar Imagececmal says: That woman who wrote the alcohol-article is unusually STUPID! She want's kids to grow up in a bubble, sheltered from everything instead of talking to them and explaining things, easier for her if everything "dangerous" is hidden and she doesn't have to take the responsibility of talking to her kids. People like that make me soooo angry! What happens, I would like to ask her, when the kids grown up, and they come in contact with alcohol and s**, and other stuff adults do, and they don't know anything, 'cause their parents has never explained these things. Then there will be trouble.... TAKE RESPONSIBILITY AND TALK TO YOUR CHILD, WOMAN!!! Ok, I'm done, pass me the butterbeer, pleaseAvatar ImageLiara says: Pfff..... Why don't make those parents their children to avoid advertisements? They're full of alcoholic drinks and etc. (even in England, too) Are they complaining against their favourite TV channel, too????Avatar Imagefreshpine says: God, are u kidding me?? People in wizarding world come of age at 17!! Of course they can drink earlier than people in the muggle world!!!! Avatar ImageAsi says: I hven't seen the film yet and I can judje only by book which has only two scens with alcohol and in both scans that's Slughorn their so it doesn't mean that whole Hogwarts drinks that's just Slighorn-an old man who's losing his mind I think!Avatar Imagehereward says: Haha @Bookworm Jen above, yes if they'd put Winky in the films or Trelawney's empty sherry bottles I'm sure New York Times would have called for a boycott. The New York Times doesn't seem to like JKR. I think it has something to do with her being a successful woman. Avatar ImageWickedLoz says: Hahahaha! This is almost as bad as a Melburnian columnist (who hasn't read the books) who complained about HP being TOO SEXY for her 6 year old!! I mena - hello!! - the film is too VOILENT for your daughter, not too sexy, haha.. Anyway.. I don't see the big deal, myself. Teenage drinking is popular where I live and the norm, and I would imagine it is very similiar to British teen culture. Whats going to happen in DH where 16-year-old Harry and 15-year-old Ginny have firewhiskey shots with the adults? Oooooh!Avatar ImageStefanM94 says: i dnt see what the problem is. JKR had chapters where alcohol was consumed in her book, and nobody complained about that 4 years ago. Anyway, in the cinema i was in, there were kids being taken out of the cinema because of the slightly more upsetting scenes (inferi, sectumsempra"), so i dnt think most parents were all that worried about the "drinking" scenes" Avatar ImageAraminta1987 says: I saw this article - someone linked it to me on facebook, and me and all my other Potter friends had a bit of a mini FB-localised rant. Basically we came to the same conclusions - one, that the level of drinking is minor, realistic, and even if the kids are having "alcohol" (I seriously don't think Butterbeer counts), they're still shouldering huge burdens and going off to save the wizarding world, not getting pregnant and dropping out of school to live in a trailer park - alcohol is not pure evil, get a little perspective. The second point - what was she doing taking her 10 year old to an M-rated movie? Avatar Imagejustanargle says: omg get over it!! It's like were harry and ron binge drinking? where they taking vodka shots in potions.. no. it's in the book aswell, and also hermione and ron are 17 which in the wizarding world is considered adulthood so technichally they are allowed to drink as much as they like. But i don't really understand why parents are sooo omg! about it, i took my 8-year-old sister, and i really don't think i'll be seeing her downing whiskey any time soon because she saw Hagrid drunk... :P In fact she didn't even seem to mention anything about drink.Avatar ImageGohandoWiz says: I actually tought butter beer was non-alchoholic. and I give the damn in what this "the kids must not see that or that" freaks, one day the kids will have to face our cruel worldAvatar ImageR-for-H says: OMG What the hell is this person talking about?? She shouldn't even be writing an article like that! What Hermione gets tippys? She is a 16 year old girl for gods sake! Avatar ImageMugglejeff says: Uncool get a lifeAvatar ImageDemarest says: Seriously? "Does Hogwarts have a drinking problem?" If the adults are drinking, then they can drink. No one's over at the Hog's Head getting Ogden's Best Firewhiskey. What, does Draco think he can poison Dumbledore by sending him tampered-with-Pumpkin Juice? That one's part of the plot. And if the kids are drinking, you can darn sure believe - in the scene - they've been allowed to by the parents (ex. Ron and Harry w/ Slughorn). I really can't. The article should be titled "Does America have a drinking problem" for thinking that there's a problem with regards to that with this movie - as a country we're just so good at seeing trees and missing the forest. I can't stand writers like this. If this was a commentary on the public mindset regarding alcohol use, that's one thing. But to nitpick a movie for the sake of pointing fingers? This just seems low.Avatar Imageemmabonkers says: This is the comedy side of it hermione having a laugh,where would it be without its humour,very over the top articleAvatar Imageleonix says: I did notice in the books and the movies that they do drink quite a bit of butterbeer and mead. Even when they were like 11 or 12 years old. And the adults seem perfectly okay with it. But again it is a book. And I don't think Hermiones reaction is that affected by butterbeer. Although I do find the interpretation that she needs alcohol to show her affection to Ron very interesting. But I find that she shows her affection more than once even without alcohol. But I agree with Jain I find the increasing death and torture much more to worry about than the alcohol. Overprotective parents like that usually end up having kids that drink behind their backs and then really. My parents were always leniant on me and alcohol and I am 21 and have yet to be completely drunk.Avatar ImageTommy K says: hmm yeah..i kinda confused with this problem,,,but please! it just a funny scene!!! I agree with Petra!Avatar Imageleonix says: @prisoner of askaban: In Germany the movie is not free for people under 12 (PG 13 in the US) and honestly if parents think they can take their 8 year old in a movie for 12 year olds(I have seen them too) well then it is THEIR fault not the movies fault. The inferi scene was a little creepy yes but I have seen movies in this age category that had much worse horrors. I find it appropriately rated and if parents think they decide different than the law then they have to blame themselves for the consequences. About the alcohol. I regularly watch the Gilmore Girls and a thing that I find much worse there and that I think really paints a wrong picture is Lorelei (and later on Ron) draining three or 5 martinis and wine during the dinner at her parents and afterwards climbs drunken (and she is drunk because she staggers) intop her car and drives off. Where is the article about the dangers of that? Avatar Image-MischiefManaged- says: @Bookworm Jen and hereward, indeed, if they had included Winky in GOF and OOTP movies, and Professor Trelawney's sherry bottles in OOTP and HBP movies (wasn't she already emitting a "whiff of cooking sherry" in OOTP?), NY Times would probably have rallied for a nationwide boycott of the movies. :-D Nationwide in the US, that is. Apparently none of the people working for NY Times have actually read the books, considering that they're only cottoning on to things now, two years after the last book was released. *eyeroll* And instead of talking about a student cutting his fellow student open with a violent spell, or about a major character being brutally murdered, they're going on and on about fictional characters drinking fictional substances. *another eyeroll* And why the heck is that lady taking a 10-year-old to see a movie like HBP anyway? I don't have kids but if I did, I don't think I'd let someone that young to see a movie with scenes like the Sectumsempra scene and The Cave scene with the Inferi. Even the Attack At The Burrow scene might be too much for someone so young.Avatar Imagerightsideup says: I agree with the article, there was way too much drinking was involved. The first thing I did after I saw the movie was go out and get wasted at a local bar - and I'm only 10.Avatar Imageshellybasson says: Ridiculous!Avatar Imagekayzz says: “The message is that it gives you liquid courage to put your arms around the guy you really like but are afraid to.” Ummm...no. That's not the message at all. Hermione puts her arms around Harry and Ron, and she's not into Harry. It's not like Hermione never touches Harry or Ron, did you see the massive hug she gave Harry as he walked into the Burrow? Lady, please read a book before you give Harry Potter a bad name in a very well-respected newspaper. Avatar ImageRobbie Rowe says: Was my comment deleted??? Ah well.Avatar Imagekayzz says: I was just sitting here thinking...clearly she's never read fanfiction...how much would she freak out about that?Avatar Imagelachamp says: I quite agree! The scene was funny, and dosn't suggesst to anyone that they should go out and find some butterbeer! It's a shame that things can get so blown out of porportion...Avatar ImageRavenclaw98 says: wow people thats just sad i mean its a moive!Avatar ImageRin68nyr says: Obviously this lady is very uptight! I'm an American,I'm an adult, I'm a parent, I'm a teacher...I found nothing wrong with the books or the movies. Are there parts of the movies I don't let my 8 year old see? Sure...because I don't want him to have nightmares. Has my 3 year old seen Harry Potter? Of course! (again...not all parts). At some point, I'm sure my kids will see all of these films beginning to end. No matter what they watch, read, or hear, I will make sure they understand all the "Dangers" in life, and can take a realistic, hopefully mature view of it. I was exposed to alcohol growing up...responsible use of it...and even given some from a very young age...I rarely have an alcoholic drink...sometimes I do...1 or 2...sometimes 3...but my exposure to it growing up showed me that it wasn't a big deal! By the way....there IS a small amount of alcohol in butterbeer... ErinAvatar Imagesquibcloakmaker says: Again parents need to parent, and not let movies parent their kids. Let see what could bea bigger issue in Half Blood Prince murder? Hermione drinking something that isn't neccessarily Alcoholic? Harry attacking Draco and the movie showing no consiquences? I don't know but parents need to be parents.Avatar ImagePetraN says: It was remakes like these that made me read these wonderful books in the first place. It never amazes me how people will get out of a book or movie. The remark earlier about parental guidence was right on. See the move before you take your children to it. Then you will not be shocked by the contents!! Or read the book yourself first! Avatar ImageLunaLupinTonks says: oh gosh. BUTTERBEER ONLY HAS ENOUGH ALCOHOL TO MAKE A HOUSE-ELF TIPSY. okay sorry. but really, if you write an article about something that most people don't notice, nobody will really care. all the other comments about sum up what i think. and you really shouldn't take your kids to a Harry Potter film expecting it to be perfectly kid-friendly. they made this one PG, i thing it should have been PG-13 maybe.Avatar ImageLunaLupinTonks says: oh gosh. BUTTERBEER ONLY HAS ENOUGH ALCOHOL TO MAKE A HOUSE-ELF TIPSY. okay sorry. but really, if you write an article about something that most people don't notice, nobody will really care. all the other comments about sum up what i think. and you really shouldn't take your kids to a Harry Potter film expecting it to be perfectly kid-friendly. they made this one PG, i thing it should have been PG-13 maybe.Avatar ImageCarley says: Do these people not realize that the drinking age isn't the same in the U.S. In most parts of Europe there isn't one at all. And the drinks they are drinking don't have strong amounts of alcohol in them. Harry even say in the Goblet of fire when they are down in the kitchen talking to Dobby, and Winky is getting out of her mind drunk off butterbeer, that butterbeer isn't that strong.(but it is strong for house-elfs). Also if they noticed in the books they only order butterbeer when they go to the pub, they're not allowed to order other drinks like fire whiskey. And doesn't Professor Slughorn only offer them wine? Thats nothing compared to most alcoholic drinks. And what American tv show or movie doesn't have drinking in it. There is tons of underage drinking everywhere in the media. And if parents are concerned, they need to use this opportunity to talk to their kids about it, and not just freak out.Avatar ImageLemonFaerie says: Interesting how they seemed unfazed by the repeated attempted murder of the Headmaster by one of his students, with accompanying consequences for people who got in the way, the accomplished killing of said Headmaster by one of his colleagues, the torture, the danger... I could go on. But a little butterbeer and they're having fits. Get a grip.Avatar ImageLemonFaerie says: Interesting how they seemed unfazed by the repeated attempted murder of the Headmaster by one of his students, with accompanying consequences for people who got in the way, the accomplished killing of said Headmaster by one of his colleagues, the torture, the danger... I could go on. But a little butterbeer and they're having fits. Get a grip.Avatar ImageLemonFaerie says: Interesting how they seemed unfazed by the repeated attempted murder of the Headmaster by one of his students, with accompanying consequences for people who got in the way, the accomplished killing of said Headmaster by one of his colleagues, the torture, the danger... I could go on. But a little butterbeer and they're having fits. Get a grip.Avatar ImageLemonFaerie says: Interesting how they seemed unfazed by the repeated attempted murder of the Headmaster by one of his students, with accompanying consequences for people who got in the way, the accomplished killing of said Headmaster by one of his colleagues, the torture, the danger... I could go on. But a little butterbeer and they're having fits. Get a grip.Avatar ImageLemonFaerie says: Interesting how they seemed unfazed by the repeated attempted murder of the Headmaster by one of his students, with accompanying consequences for people who got in the way, the accomplished killing of said Headmaster by one of his colleagues, the torture, the danger... I could go on. But a little butterbeer and they're having fits. Get a grip.Avatar ImageLemonFaerie says: Interesting how they seemed unfazed by the repeated attempted murder of the Headmaster by one of his students, with accompanying consequences for people who got in the way, the accomplished killing of said Headmaster by one of his colleagues, the torture, the danger... I could go on. But a little butterbeer and they're having fits. Get a grip.Avatar ImageLemonFaerie says: Interesting how they seemed unfazed by the repeated attempted murder of the Headmaster by one of his students, with accompanying consequences for people who got in the way, the accomplished killing of said Headmaster by one of his colleagues, the torture, the danger... I could go on. But a little butterbeer and they're having fits. Get a grip.Avatar Imagevicky granger says: You know, I really don't think that's a problem. I mean, Hermione may have just been acting goofy, and anyway, why would she not drink because she is a "wound, tight young lady" ?! And I really didn't see alcohol as very present in that movie. Plus, if Butterbeer is given to children, then surely it's like cider in France, you jhave it as a kid because it's in the country's tradition and has very little alcohol. Also, the message about too much alcohol isn't a positive one in the books, look at Winky ! Although it's probably better she wasn't in there =PAvatar ImageNympha_T says: Oh God, talk about pointless complaints!Avatar ImageRoxxiRoRo says: Seriously, these journalists need to get a life. I dont know if someone has mentioned it yet, but here in England, one newspaper was saying that Felix Felicis is too much like Ecstasy! Is stupid, no on e would have noticed if they hadent have said. p.s. [at the journalist who wrote it] The wizarding laws are different to the muggle law. If you werent such an uptight prune who has no life, you would realise that to make a worthy article, you should research and actually know what you are talking about.Avatar ImageH.P.2009 says: well maybe if parents are worried about what their kids see, maybe after they watch it the parents should sit down and talk to their kids about alcohol, i know that's an unthinkable idea. also the kids over in Europe have a lower drinking age but they are also far more responsible drinking than kids in America because they grow up with it in there daily meals, they have a totally different mentality towards it.Avatar ImageTheGoldenSeeker says: wow. this is actually hillarious. i mean, if you read the book, you should know what to expect from the movie. don't people have anything better to do than to write articles about some harmless drinking scenes? The movie is milder than some of the other movies. Believe it or not parents, kids are going to grow up and if they don't see drinking in a movie, they will definately see it out in the real world.Avatar Imagegot2lovme says: OMG some people need to calm down. I questioned it also but it makes no sense to write it like that. I grew up with parents giving alchol to their children and it seems like it's not a big deal. Plus i think it's up to the parent to teach their children those kind of values. But if no one notices kids won't care. But that's just me. Avatar ImageWickedLoz says: Y'know, tehcnically Hermione is an adult in that scene. She turns 17 September 1996, so even *if* Butterbeer was strong enough to have effect, she's in her perfect rights to drink as much she wants! Avatar Imagelunalovegood30 says: Do I hear "overreacting?" Geez.Avatar Imagepinkmoosely says: This kind of article anoyes me as the author seems to have missed several important points firstly its fantasy, people in the HP world do lots of thinks we can't. Secondly, I'm sure these children have seen people drink alcohol before including the whinging parent/author who wrote the piece. and thirdly is the author really expecting tv/movies and the media to do all the parenting for them? kids see things around them every day and ask questions,(except Harry Potter ;) who should have asked a few more) good parenting is part of how you answer these sometimes awkward question. In conclusion, get a grip on life and spend some more time parenting properly and less time writing into newspapers whinging. Rant over :)Avatar ImageMadelineG says: People need to get a freaking life!!! That stupid lady from the magazine was only seeing what she wanted to see! If she cared to remember, they were drinking in their first year! And, drinking one butterbeer isn't nearly enough to make someone tipsy. With all the suffering and other problems in the world, I can see how she is so upset with this insignificant part of a movie. Who cares if there are people around the world dying! Hermione is tipsy! She should put her cares and concerns into something that actually needs attention. Avatar Imagesiriusly_devoted says: Oh jeeze! Hermione coming out tipsy from the Three Broomsticks?? Priceless! Get a grip. Avatar Imagehermyone08 says: that's just ridiculousAvatar ImageCallawayMADness says: I agree with everyone else who has commented! No one is going to decide to go get drunk just from seeing this movie. Get a sense of humor!!!Avatar ImageKaylie Marie says: That's ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. I don't know about the rest of you, but to me, this shows how low society has sunk. Avatar ImageKaylie Marie says: That's ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. I don't know about the rest of you, but to me, this shows how low society has sunk. Avatar ImageKaylie Marie says: That's ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. I don't know about the rest of you, but to me, this shows how low society has sunk. Avatar ImageLexitheAuror says: I just looked up Half-Blood Prince on fandango, and alcohol use isn't even listed as a reason for PG rating. Does that mean alcohol can be seen in a G movie? I don't think so. The rating wasn't even mentioned in the article though. You'd think they would be complaining about how the MPAA rated this film. Also, did they realize that Draco was doing the wizarding equivalent to pointing a gun at his HeadMaster? That's more important than than drinks, I'd say!Avatar Imagejim32809 says: Lexi, I was going to say the exact same thing. With all the terror in the movie, she's worried about butterbeer? (which I always thought of as similar to rootbeer, not alchololic beer.) And I bet the kids never associated Hermione's actions with the butterbeer anyway. You have a student threatening to kill his headmaster/principal, and you are worried that you kids will find that as a way to deal with a teacher they don't like? Sheesh. Oh, and what point did you not hear that the books (and thus the movies) were getting more mature? So you take a ten-year old to this movie without checking it out first? Sounds rather irresponsible as a parent to me.Avatar Imagex_Potter_Lover_Forever_x says: WOW!! I think that's been put a bit out of context lol! What about the deaths, torture etc....?!Avatar ImageMidnightSun321 says: i hate overprotective parents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in kids shows in their 'real-life stories' they always show alcohol, drugs etc etc!!! its butterbeer!!!! it would be like a really mild beer, u EEJITS!!!!!!!!! hate people like that.Avatar Imagestarwarshippie says: I've always had mixed feelings about the alcohol use in Harry Potter. I understand that it's differant in the US than in Europe, but here (the USA) it is considered compleatly inappropriate to had a teenager a glass of Mead, Wine or Whiskey yet alone let them order drinks with small amouts of alcohol. However the prohibition of drugs and a drinking age being 21 has lead to an epidemic of young people altering their consciousness in some way. It is better to teach people the truth than to ban something completely. After all that's the one sure way to get someone to do somthing; by prohibiting it. The most important thing is honest comunication, tell your children the truth. It does them no good to say it's wrong untill your twenty one as they watch you have a drink at dinner or during the game. That being said; I am a recovering alcoholic but I will not condem alcohol use even among teens, their is nothing good nor bad about alcohol it is like everything it's how you use it that determines it worth. The teens in Harry Potter use alcohol in moderation; they are not bing drinking or using it as an escape from their problems, of which they have many. The key to steaming the tide of alcohol and drug addiction is PROPER education-not horror stories and lies- and setting a possitive examples for young people.Avatar ImageDavid_uk says: Haha. Much of this is cultural. Americans are obsessed with alcohol as if it's the most evil thing on the planet. As long as your parents teach you about it properly, it's not a problem. I had my first bit of wine at the dinner table when I was 8. I've never drunk heavily, never had a hangover, never been sick and when I turned 18 I had *one* beer. We have a very different (and imo more healthy) attitude to alcohol in Europe traditionally.Avatar ImageDavid_uk says: Haha. Much of this is cultural. Americans are obsessed with alcohol as if it's the most evil thing on the planet. As long as your parents teach you about it properly, it's not a problem. I had my first bit of wine at the dinner table when I was 8. I've never drunk heavily, never had a hangover, never been sick and when I turned 18 I had *one* beer. We have a very different (and imo more healthy) attitude to alcohol in Europe traditionally.Avatar Imagejediofthelost says: i would think that there is a age limit in the wizarding world as it is in the muggle world. i mean is a drinking age.Avatar Imagecallicott3 says: A good Root Beer has "froth" too....YIKES, people! I agree, that "Parental Guidance" is the rule here...And be sure NOT to buy them any A & W Root Beer...it might provoke them into being raving non-alcoholics!Avatar Imageibelieveinnargles says: Are you freakin' kidding me? How ridiculous. I always thought butterbeer was alcoholic, but the percentage was so low that you can't really get drunk on it. Avatar ImageKC Nox says: ridiculous!!Avatar ImageCalynthe says: Some people just aren't happy unless they're complaining about something. Only the US would make such a big deal about a couple of drinks. They're noticeable mostly to the keen eye. And if you don't like what the movie portrays, then don't bring your child to see it. :PAvatar ImageGiant Squid says: its in the book! if they left out the part with hagrid and slughorn getting drunk..... well, even more people would be angry! also i agree with jain.Avatar Imagesnapes_half-blood_princess says: People need to get over themselves. Society has become so uptight and this vocal minority wants to ruin things for everyone else. Drinking is shown in many, many movies.... many of which do not teach good lessons for children that Harry Potter does. I agree with some other comments about how this story takes place in England, where drinking is not so taboo like in the U.S. Also, I can't believe with death, violence, and some frightening scenes that this parent noticed ohhh they are drinking!!! Puh-lease. Why can't parents parent and not blame their kids issues on movies, etc???Avatar Imagereadhp1008 says: Uhhhh They are soooo stupid! It is not really taboo at all in the magical world it seems!!! They were drinking butterbeer when they were thirteen and now they bring it up It is soooooooooooo stupid!Avatar ImagecrazyforSeverus says: Hmmm...this is an interesting point. I get what the woman is saying but I never really thought about the alcohol. I don't think it's really that big of deal. In the books butterbeer is only "strong for a house elf" and I never thought of Hermione as "tipsy." I don't really associate with her drinking butterbeer as getting drunk. Hagrid passing out from the alcohol had to happen for Harry to talk to Slughorn alone, and if they didn't have Ron drink something, he would never have been poisoned. I think it was necessary, and only older audiences would really understand the alcohol connection, and by then they're old enough to be responsible.Avatar Imagemissharley says: *strongly repressing urge to roll eyes* honestly, people!! Get a freakin' life!Avatar Imagenealiezealbie says: just because its in a movie doesnt mean kids are going to copy it! its not like they were drinking the entire time or passed out often, or showing any signs of hang-overs etc. i mean, really. give kids more credit! some adults seem to think that children have to be sparred every little thing. you know what happens to those children? they get a bigger shock when they realize that the world isnt going to hold their hand though everything! come on, this is HARRY POTTER. not, some sappy teen romance drama that shows kids getting high and drinking and being otherwise un-responsible.i suggest the writer(s) of this column read the novels and (to their presumable great surprise) they will find the main themes of harry potter are bravery, courage, and love.Avatar Imagenealiezealbie says: i also the statement warn. bros. put out: "adding that the wizarding world “should not be held to the same standards as the real world.' " i agree completely. perhaps in the wizarding world the drinking age is different? or perhaps they have no limit at all? maybe wizards are effected differently by alcohol than muggles? or perhaps it has no effect on them whatsoever? i remember reading that harry felt a warming sensation or some sort...perhaps that is the effect butterbeer has on wizards? also of note, fire-whiskey seems to be much stronger than butterbeer and (if im not mistaken) only adults are seen drinking that.

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