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PotterCast 229: Deathly Hallows Part 1 Review

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Posted by: Rosi
November 22, 2010, 08:51 PM

+A brand new episode of PotterCast, our Harry Potter podcast is now available; Melissa, John and Frankie had a chance to see "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1" and they sat down together to talk about what they loved and what they loved to nit pick about here on episode 229! This episode was edited by Andrew Garner, Thanks Andrew!

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428 Points

But… what was awkward about it? I agree the angle was awkward, I went “wtf” when I saw it, but that’s not an issue with the actors. That’s an issue with the filmmaking.

I’ve been a long listener of Pottercast and I’ve heard nothing but Bonnie bashing since HBP came out. I’ve never e-mailed them or left a comment about it, but they even said they’ve had others expressing annoyance at it, so it’s clearly not just me. It’s a turn off for someone who likes her. Especially since I didn’t think she was bad at all in DH. I thought she’d improved a lot. Her lines weren’t bad. I agree some were a little off in HBP, but I didn’t notice anything wrong with her lines in DH. My only issue was with the angle of the kiss. It was the back of her head and it was bizarre.

Trust me, I’d feel the same way if I heard them saying this about the other actors I like.

Posted by rosalie on November 23, 2010, 12:27 AM report to moderator
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They are just supposed to have a natural connection and she makes it seem forced. A lot of blame does go with the film makers but like they said the Cho kiss was fine and was honestly better than either Ginny kiss. She plays the part like she’s scared of herself. Anyone can blame the film maker but you have to have personal input into the character and with the kiss scenes I don’t see it. All other Ginny scenes she is perfectly fine and she’s great, but the kisses just don’t seem real and meaningfull.

Posted by Sirius17 -ROAR_ on November 23, 2010, 12:37 AM report to moderator
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428 Points

I don’t see her scared of herself at all. I thought she seemed very mature and very confident in the kissing scene. “Zip me up, will you?” held no sign of nervousness at all with the way she said it. The line she said about the wedding also seemed fine. I saw none of this nervousness that you said you saw. She’s the one who turns and starts the kiss as well and I loved the way she looked at first his eyes, then his lips.

I had issues with their HBP kiss, but I really liked this one (despite the pathetic angle).

It’s not going to be the canon relationship, as the canon relationship has been butchered. I would love nothing more than the canon relationship, but meh.

Posted by rosalie on November 23, 2010, 12:41 AM report to moderator
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Yeah but you can barely see the kiss in DH due to the angle which made it awkward and that’s not Bonnie’s fault. She didn’t direct the scene.

Posted by Kgose on November 23, 2010, 12:42 AM report to moderator
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Why do people constantly refer to awkwardness as a bad thing? That’s 50% of what teenage romance is. Harry felt very awkward in the book whenever near Ginny as well. Sitting next to her as the Weasley’s table trying not to brush her elbow, being in her room for the first time.

Posted by YodatheHobbit on November 23, 2010, 01:33 AM report to moderator
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super duper! i have been waiting for this PC for like my whole life! :D and hey, PotterCast, personally, i think that you had a good balance of loving/not loving the movie. i mean, who can honestly say “i hated the entire movie.” or “i loved the entire movie.” being a huge fan of harry potter, (as i assume we all are since we are currently on a website called ‘the leaky cauldron’) and seeing the books translated to film is always going to make people upset. the directors, writers, actors (and everyone else involved) can not possibly please everyone. how could they? we all have our own perceptions of how the book should look as a film. so hey, PC, good job having a balance of nit picks/loving the movie.

Posted by Nealie Zealbie on November 23, 2010, 09:08 AM report to moderator
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Awesome! Its good to nit pick!

Posted by #1 Witch ROAR! on November 23, 2010, 09:20 AM report to moderator
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i agree, it always makes things mopre interesting with the nit picky things, and i do remember it being kind of awkward with the whole zipping thing and the kiss between harry and ginny. im not sure who’s to blame for that, but is it possible that yates intended to make it that awkward? idk. pottercast is amazing, and no offense to mugglecast but i’ve always been more attached to the pottercasters, they’re ridiclously amazing. :D

Posted by hermy007 on November 23, 2010, 11:02 AM report to moderator
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Oh guys chill! We specifically said we didn’t think it was her fault. I think Bonnie is beautiful, and a charming little actress who’s going to grow into an even better one over time. (And re: awkwardness, we mean awkwardness i the way it was portrayed, not convincingly acted teenage awkwardness. That’s different. Also, the high point above ALL of this, is that in the book, they are not awkward. Their first kiss happens in front of all of Gryffindor, including Ron. They are relaxed and comfortable with each other, AND passionate. Not so in the film. That’s the main point of contention.)

And our love for this film is unabashed and greater than it has EVER been, but we would not be doing any fans a service if we glossed over the things that we as fans find importantly distressing. We made sure to say, and loudly, that all of our nitpicks added up are TRIVIAL. We love, love, love this film. It’s the first time that a few weeks after seeing it for the first time I still have the same love for it I did. This film is magnificent.

Posted by Melissa Anelli on November 23, 2010, 11:41 AM report to moderator
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i agree, i dont think u guys were attacking bonnie, its’s just turned out that
way. :) i remember even saying outloud “awkward” in the theater when i saw it for the first time at the midnight premeire. but thankfully, like u guys said, harry/ginny’s relationship isnt of vital importance to the rest of the story. while ron/hemione’s relationship is a different story. :D

Posted by hermy007 on November 23, 2010, 11:54 AM report to moderator
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‘ear, ’ear, Melissa. You couldn’t even see the kiss…awkward. Though I must say I didn’t really have a huge problem with the dress zip-up, since it made Ginny a little sexy, which I think is very in line with the books. At least George and Harry looking at each other afterward was funny.

Posted by abandonedboyjon on November 23, 2010, 12:34 PM report to moderator
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Pretty good discussion, sometimes it went all over the place, but you guys are awesome for knowing tiny details from the books; so often I’m screaming at my ipod because some supposed “experts” (not you guys!) don’t know important bits.
Something that no one has mentioned but was one of my least favorite things was that in Malfoy Manor when Hermione is being tortured, Ron doesn’t really look like he cares at all! “Like hell” was really good and sort of redeemed that for me, but in the book he goes completely berserk, and that scene is so beautiful to me, because it seems like it’s the first moment where Ron really realizes he really needs her.
Also, did you talk about how Wormtail didn’t die? I don’t remember if you guys did, and I listened to it back to back with Mugglecast’s movie reactions.
And you guys didn’t talk about Lucius! I thought his performance was one of the best in the entire movie, maybe even all the movies, and I loved how beat up he looked; remember, he’s just out of Azkaban. I thought he was spot on, and it was the first time I’ve ever really cared about movie Lucius.
Oh, and what little we saw of Snape was really good. You could see him looking at Charity Burbage and thinking, “Okay, can’t save her, can’t show emotion, can’t save her…” He was excellent.

Posted by lunawannabe on November 23, 2010, 12:38 PM report to moderator
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I completely agree about the Harry/Hermione/Ron relationship. I hate that they are trying to form a love triangle between them that was never there. Mostly because it changes Harry’s character and makes Harry pretty sleazy. Like he was just waiting for Ron to be out of the way to make his move on Hermione (even though he’s still with Ginny). They needed to have him reassure Ron more in the film than in the book, and it wasn’t there. It doesn’t seem like he even misses Ron in the movie. That bothered me more than anything.

I also wonder how are they going to explain how Snape knew where they were to give them the sword. Do you think they’ll just let it go?

I did love the movie overall. It’s the first time I’ve felt like I was seeing the real characters on screen.

Posted by Olivia on November 23, 2010, 12:58 PM report to moderator
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Oh and, John, “What changed from the when they said cut on six to this movie that made them realize there’s more to this character?” (I’m paraphrasing.)
JK Rowling being a producer perhaps? :) Would love to know more about her involvement with this film. I just want to be a fly on the wall for every conversation she has.
I agree with Melissa on the Trio: Rupert was the best, Emma most improved.

Posted by Olivia on November 23, 2010, 01:07 PM report to moderator
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Oh and, John, “What changed from the when they said cut on six to this movie that made them realize there’s more to this character?” (I’m paraphrasing.)
JK Rowling being a producer perhaps? :) Would love to know more about her involvement with this film. I just want to be a fly on the wall for every conversation she has.
I agree with Melissa on the Trio: Rupert was the best, Emma most improved.

Posted by Olivia on November 23, 2010, 01:07 PM report to moderator
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