J. K. Rowling at Carnegie Hall Reveals Dumbledore is Gay; Neville Marries Hannah Abbott, and Much More

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Oct 20, 2007

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Note: A preliminary transcript is now at the end of this post; please note that there may be some small errors in phrasing, and all questions have been paraphrased to save time; this is not a final transcript, but the accuracy of the questions and answers have been maintained.

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Tonight, the one thousand grand prize winners (and their guests) of the Scholastic’s Open Book Tour Sweepstakes along with a companion got the chance to see Harry Potter author J. K. Rowling read from “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows,” answer questions and sign books at New York City’s Carnegie Hall. We have exclusive information this evening on the myriad of “Deathly Hallows” questions she answered as well as in-depth details on a number of subjects she spoke about.

A caution now. Parts of the following WILL contain book seven SPOILERS.

First, the biggest revelation of the night came when Jo revealed to her audience the fact that Albus Dumbledore is gay and had fallen in love with fellow wizard and friend, Gellert Grindelwald. This elicited a huge reaction and prolonged ovation. So much so, it promoted Jo to say:

“If I had known this would have made you this happy, I would have announced it years ago.”

The question was: Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself?

JKR: My truthful answer to you… I always thought of Dumbledore as gay. [ovation.] … Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald, and that that added to his horror when Grindelwald showed himself to be what he was. To an extent, do we say it excused Dumbledore a little more because falling in love can blind us to an extent? But, he met someone as brilliant as he was, and rather like Bellatrix he was very drawn to this brilliant person, and horribly, terribly let down by him. Yeah, that’s how i always saw Dumbledore. In fact, recently I was in a script read through for the sixth film, and they had Dumbledore saying a line to Harry early in the script saying I knew a girl once, whose hair… [laughter]. I had to write a little note in the margin and slide it along to the scriptwriter, “Dumbledore’s gay!” [laughter] “If I’d known it would make you so happy, I would have announced it years ago!”

Jo also said after revelation: “You needed something to keep you going for the next 10 years! …Oh, my god, the fan fiction now, eh?”

Jo also revealed that Neville Longbottom married Hufflepuff Hannah Abbott and she was to become the landlady at the iconic Leaky Cauldron Pub. She thought that people would find the fact of Neville’s living over a pub particularly cool.

Equally large revelations were made concerning Petunia Dursley when Jo answered the question of what Petunia could not bring herself to say when Harry and the Dursleys parted ways before his seventeenth birthday. She would have wished him luck, saying:

“I do know what you’re up against and I hope it’s okay.”

Information on the original Order members was also revealed during tonight’s event. Jo related the fact that Remus Lupin, prior to the third book, was unemployable because he was a werewolf and upon his graduation from Hogwarts along with James and Lily, was supported by James using their own money. In addition to this she shed more light on the early days of the Order, saying James, Sirius, Remus and Lily were full time Order members. “Full Time Fighters,” as Jo put it.

Jo also went into further detail about the many portraits in the wizarding world and their occupants. An occupant can only move freely to other portraits in their dwelling or to another portrait in which they are depicted. She also revealed that Harry himself made sure that the portrait of Snape made it into the Headmasters Office, but doubts that he ever went to speak to it.

Life debts were another subject discussed during tonight’s question and answer session. It was revealed that Draco Malfoy does not owe Harry a life debt. While speaking briefly on the Elder wand, Jo did not detail the the core of this extraordinary wand. Hagrid never married and James and Lily went into hiding shortly after she first became pregnant with Harry.

Finally, speaking about her personal feelings and experiences of the past seventeen years with the boy wizard, Jo said finishing the first book and the seventh book produced very similar feelings. She also admits that she was very difficult to live with for the weeks following her completing the last book in the “Harry Potter” series.

A full transcript of this evening’s event will be available on TLC soon. TLC will update throughout the evening with the latest from this event.

Some highlights have been transcribed:

Q: Did Neville ever find love?

Of course. … To make him extra cool he marries the woman who becomes, eventually, the new landlady at The Leaky Cauldron, which I think would make him very cool among the students, that he lives above the pub. He marries Hannah Abbott.

How did you decide that Molly Weasley would be the one to finish off Bellatrix?

I always knew Molly was going to finish her off. I think there was some speculation that Neville would do it, because Neville obviously has a particular reason to hate Bellatrix. ..So there were lots of optios for Blelatrix, but I never deviated. I wanted it to be Molly, and I wanted it to be Molly for two reasons.

The first reason was I always saw Molly as a very good witch but someone whose light is necessarily hidden under a bushel, because she isn’t in the kitchen a lot and she has had to raise, among others, and george which is like, enough… I wanted Molly to have her moment and to show that because a woman had dedicated herself to her family does not mean that she doesn’t have a lot of other talents.

Second reason: It was the meeting of two kinds of – if you call what Bellatrix feels for Voldemort love, I guess we’ll call it love, she has a kind of obsession with him, it’s a very sick obsession … and I wanted to match that kind of obsession with maternal love… the power that you give someone by loving them. So Molly was really an amazing exemplar of maternal love. … There was something very satisfying about putting those two women together.

How different would the last two books be if Arthur had been killed in the middle of book five?

I think they would have been very different and it’s part of the reason why I chose my mind. … By turning Ron into half of Harry, in other words by turning Ron into someone who had suffered the loss of a parent, I was going to remove the Weasleys as a refuge for Harry and I was going to necessarily remove a lot of Ron’s humor. That’s part of the reason why I didn’t kill Arthru. I wanted to keep Ron in tact … a lot of Ron’s humor comes from his insensitivity and his immaturity, to be honest about Ron. And Ron finally, I think, you see, grows up in this book. He’s the last of the three to reach what I consider adulthood, and he does it then [ when he destroys the horcrux] and faces those things. So that’s part of the reason. The only other reason I didn’t kill Arthur was that I wanted to come full circle. We started with an orphan, someone who lost their parents because of the war. ANd so I wanted to show it again. … Even though you don’t see Teddy, I wanted to express in the epilogue, that he gets an even better godfather than Harry had, because Sirius had ihs faults, I think we must admit. He was a risky guy to have a s a godfather. Because Teddy gets someone who really has been there, and Harry becomes a really great father figure for Teddy as well as his own children. I hasten to add that I didn’t kill Lupin or Tonks lightly. I loved them as characters…so that hurt, killing them.

Q: In the Goblet of Fire Dumbledore said his brother was prosecuted for practicing inappropriate charms [JKR buries her head, to laughter] on a goat; what were the inappropriate charms he was practicing on that goat?

JKR: How old are you?

Eight.

JKR: I think that he was trying to make a goat that was easy to keep clean [laughter], curly horns. That’s a joke that works on a couple of levels. I really like Aberforth and his goats. But you know Aberforth having this strange fondness for goats if you’ve read book seven, came in really useful to Harry, later on, because a goat, a stag, you know. If you’re a stupid Death Eater, what’s the difference. So, that is my answer to YOU.

[loud applause]

Did Dumbledore, who believed in the prevailing power of love, ever fall in love himself?

My truthful answer to you… I always thought of Dumbledore as gay. [ovation.] … Dumbledore fell in love with Grindelwald, and that that added to his horror when Grindelwald showed himself to be what he was. To an extent, do we say it excused Dumbledore a little more because falling in love can blind us to an extent? But, he met someone as brilliant as he was, and rather like Bellatrix he was very drawn to this brilliant person, and horribly, terribly let down by him. Yeah, that’s how i always saw Dumbledore. In fact, recently I was in a script read through for the sixth film, and they had Dumbledore saying a line to Harry early in the script saying I knew a girl once, whose hair… [laughter]. I had to write a little note in the margin and slide it along to the scriptwriter, “Dumbledore’s gay!” [laughter] If I’d known it would make you so happy, I would have announced it years ago!

Q: Since Ron is able to speak Parseltongue in the last book, does that mean that parseltongue is a language that most witches and wizards can learn or must a person be born with some ability to speak Parseltongue.

JKR: I don’t see it really as a language you can learn. So few people speak it that who would teach you? This is a weird ability passed down through the Slytherin blood line. However ROn was with Harry when he said one word in Parseltongue, which I do not know so I cannot duplicate for you, but he heard him say “Open,” and he was able to reproduce the sound. So it was one word. Whether he could learn to speak to snakes properly is a separate issue. I don’t think he could. But he knew enough, he was smart enough, to duplicate one necessary sound.

Q: [Speaker thanks Jo for the Dumbledore answer.]

JKR: You needed something to keep you going for the next 10 years! Oh, my god, the fan fiction now, eh? [Applause.]

Q: What did Dumbledore write in the letter to make the Dursleys take Harry?

JKR: Very, very good question. As you know, as we find out in book seven, Petunia once really wanted to be part of that world. And you discover that Dumbledore has written to her prior to the Howler…Dumbledore wrote to her very kindly and explained why he couldn’t let her come to Hogwarts to become a witch. So, Petunia, much as she denis it afterwards, much as she turns against that world when she met Uncle Vernon, who is the biggest anti-wizard you could ever met in your life, a tiny part of her, and that’s the part that almost wished Harry luck when she said goodbye to him in this book, she just teetered on the verge of saying, I do know what you’re up against and I hope it’s OK. But she couldn’t bring herself to say it. Years of pretending she doesn’t care have hardened her. But Dumbledore appealed in the letter you’re asking about, so that part of Petunia that did remember wanting desperately to be part of the world and he appealed to her sense of fair play to a sister that she had hated because Lily had what she couldn’t have. So that’s how she persuaded Petunia to keep Harry. Good question.

Q: When Harry was stabbed by a basilisk in the Chamber of Secrets, since he was a Horcrux shouldn’t it have been destroyed then?

JKR: I have been asked that a lot. Harry was exceptionally fortunate in that he had Fawkes. So before he could be destroyed without repair, which is what is necessary to destroy a horcrux, he was mended. However, I made sure that Fawkes wasn’t around the second time a Horcrux got stabbed by a basilisk fang, so the poison did its work and it was irreparable within a short period of time…. I established early in the book, Hermione says that you destroy a Horcrux by using something so powerful that there’s no remedy. But she does say there is a remedy for basilisk poison but of course it has to be administered immediately and when they stab the cup later – boy I’m really blowing this for anyone who hasn’t finished the book – there’s Fawkes, is my answer. And thank you for giving me a chance to say that because people have argued that quite a lot.

Q: Why couldn’t Harry speak to a portrait of Dumbledore throughout the last book>

Well there are two reasons, three reasons actually… Teh last bit, why did he have to decode? As Dumbledore says to Harry…to tell Harry about the Hallows was to tempt him. And Harry, throughout all seven books has been incredibly impetuous and reckless. That’s one of Harry’s biggest flaws. He does tend to act without thinking, and Dumbledore knows this about Harry. He wants him to work it out slowly enough to gain wisdom along the way. That’s why he passed the information through Hermione, who is the most cautious person in the books, as you know. And Dumbledore says explicitly, so your good heat isn’t overcome by your hot heads. Or I may have paraphrased myself slight there so forgive me. “She doesn’t even know her own book!” [laughter] Yes so that’s one reason. Harry needs to decode. He said, he does say in this book, he’s frightened by his decision not to race for the wand, because he had never chosen not to act. So that’s Harry’s real big coming of age moment, that he’s decided to hold back for the first time very in his life. So the other two reasons that i have for him not t speak to Dumbledore’s portrait, first of all, I crated a lot of rules for this world and then later had to navigate my away around them. But this rule was always good, and the rule was that portraits could only move between portraits in the same building. so if I’m in a picture and you’re in a picture and we’re both in Carnegie Hall, then we can move into each other’s pictures. Otherwise we can only move only to other places where we have a portrait. You can’t just move willy nilly through all the – the Louvre, the Met – you can’t do a world tour, as a picture person. You are limited by geography. So there was that reason. And then lastly of course, the third reason, is it really would be too easy and I wouldn’t have had a plot.

Q: Many of us older readers have noticed over the years similarities between the Death Eaters tactics and the Nazis from the 30s and 40s. Did you use that historical era as a model for Voldemort’s reign and what were the lessons that you hope to impart to the next generation?

It was conscious. I think that if you’re, I think most of us if you were asked to name a very evil regime we would think Nazi Germany. There were parallels in the ideology. I wanted Harry to leave our world and find exactly the same problems in the wizarding world. So you have the intent to impose a hierarchy, you have bigotry, and this notion of purity, which is this great fallacy, but it crops up all over the world. People like to think themselves superior and that if they can pride themselves in nothing else they can pride themselves on perceived purity. So yeah that follows a parallel. It wasn’t really exclusively that. I think you can see in the Ministry even before it’s taken over, there are parallels to regimes we all know and love. [Laughter and applause.] So you ask what lessons, I suppose. The Potter books in general are a prolonged argument for tolerance, a prolonged plea for an end to bigotry, and I think ti’s one of the reasons that some people don’t like the books, but I think that’s it’s a very healthy message to pass on to younger people that you should question authority and you should not assume that the establishment or the press tells you all of the truth.

[Loud applause.]

Q: What did it feel like completing your first Harry Potter book versus completing the last.

JKR: What a great question. It felt strangely similar actually. Both feelings were more alike than with any of the other books. When I finished the first book, there was this incredible sense of achievement that i’d actually written a novel, i”d actually finished my book. And it was after seven years of writing and making notes and rewriting. And then when I finished the seventh book, that was 17 years. WIth the seventh book there was a huge feeling of loss as well. I couldn’t believe I was done. And it took me weeks, as my poor, long-suffering husband will attest. He’s here. [applause] Yes, you should clap him, he’s very patient! [ovation] He’s not the type to stand up and take about but trust me. Toward the end of a book i’m not that easy to live with. Yes Neil would bear witness to the fact that for weeks, really… it felt like a bereavement. I knew it was coming. I was prepared, I knew it would hurt, and it was huge. So, that’s why I’m glad to be here and talk about it. Thank you.

Voice: Excuse me, Ms. Rowling?

JKR: Hello.

Voice: I have a question.

JKR: God? [laughter] And they say I don’t believe in you! [Ovation.]

Voice: May I approach teh stage?

JKR: Sorry, I missed that, what was that? You may approach the stage, I always wondered what oyu looked like.

Announcer: Actually I don’t have a question but I do have a little surprise. [Explains that they've picked some more questions from competition winners, randomly chosen to surprise sweepstakes winners.]

Q: Does Malfoy owe Harry a debt?

JKR: That’s a great question and a lot of people wanted to know that. When Dumbledore said to Harry, Voldemort won’t want a close associate who is in your debt, I wasn’t implying by that there was any kind of magical bond there. It was more that Dumbldore’s extensive wisdom and knowledge of human nature, he knew as Harry later thinks in book seven, he knew that Pettigrew would react a certain way to having saved his life. … He’s weak, fundamentally weak. Pettigrew is a very weak character. He’s not someone I like at all. He’s a weak person and he likes to gravitate to people who are stronger. Dumbledore is right. Pettigrew had an impulsive mercy… would Malfoy e in Harry’s debt? I think the very worst burden Harry could have put Malfoy under was this one, that Malfoy has to feel any kind of gratitude. So I tried to show that slightly in the epilogue when they look slightly at each other and there’s a, “Hi. It’s so embarrassing, you saved my life. No one will ever let me forget it.” I think, does he owe him a debt, probably not. I think Malfoy would go back to being an improved version of what he was but we shouldn’t expect him to be a really great guy any time soon.

Q: Harry often wondered about his parents lives before he died. What did Lily, James, Remus, Lupin and Sirius do after Hogwarts?

JKR: To take Remus first, Remus was unemployable. Poor Lupin, prior to Dumbledore taking him in, lead a really impoverished life because no one wanted to employ a werewolf. The other three were full-time members of the Order of the Phoenix. If you remember when Lily, James and co. were at school, the first war was raging. It never reached the heights that the second war reached, because the Ministry was never infiltrated to that extend but it was a very bad time, the same disappearances, the same deaths. So that’s what they did, they left school. James has gold, enough to support Sirius and Lily. So I suppose they lived foff a private income. But they were full-time fighters, that’s what they did, until Lily fell pregnant with Harry. So then they went into hiding.

Q: Did Hagrid ever get married and have children?

[Aww from crowd] JKR: Oh, did Hagrid ever get married and have children? No. [awwws again] I may change that immediately due to the look on your face. Yes! He had 22! – No, no, Hagrid never did marry and have children. I’m sorry. I’m really sorry. Oh I feel terrible now. I’ll write another book! [Ovation] Realistically, Hagrid’s pool of potential girlfriends is extremely limited. Because with the giants killing each other off, the number of giantesses around is infinitesimal and he met one of the only, and I’m afraid, she thought he was kind of cute, but she was a little more, how should I put it, sophisticated than Hagrid. So no, bless him. [Awws] I kept him alive, come on! [Applause.]

Q: Is Severus Snape’s portrait in the headmaster’s office?

JKR: Some have been asking why hasn’t the portrait appeared immediately. It doesn’t. The reason is that the perception in the castle itself and everyone who was in the castle, because Snape kept his secret so well was that he abandoned his post. So all the portraits you see in the headmaster’s study are all headmasters and mistresses who died, it’s like British royals. You only get good press if you die in office. Abdication is not acceptable, particularly if you marry and American. I’m kidding! [laughter] I digress. I know, because I thought this one through, because it was very important to me, I know Harry would have insisted that Snape’s portrait was on that wall, right beside Dumbledore’s. [Applause.] As for whether Harry would go back to talk to him, I think, I’m not sure he would have done. Snape, I was really [?] the week after I finished the book. And I went to a chat room – not a chat room, what am I talking about? [laughter] I never go in chat rooms. I went onto a fan site because I was looking for questions to put up on my Web site, which is sometimes difficult. And I was so heartened to see that people on the message boards that people were still arguing about Snape. The book was out, and they were still arguing whether Snape was a good guy But that was really wonderful to me, because there’s a question there, was Snape a good guy or not? In many ways he really wasn’t. SoI haven’t been deliberately misleading everyone all this time, when I say that he’s a good guy. Because even though he did love and he loved very deeply and he was very brave, both qualities that I admire above anything else. He was bitter and he was vindictive… but right at the very very end, he did, as your question acknowledges, acheive a kind of peace together and I tried to show that in the epilogue.





3,516 Responses to J. K. Rowling at Carnegie Hall Reveals Dumbledore is Gay; Neville Marries Hannah Abbott, and Much More

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YESSSS!!! SOOOO HAPPPPYYYYYY!!!! Rejoice!!!!!!!!!!!

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j-money…......Gay folks ARE cool! JKR amazes me, every time I read an article about her. She is one amazing, insightful writer!

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He can’t be gay and cool?

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Well! That is a bombshell. Did he ever have a great love? (not Harry, eeew).

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Finally some real information. I had almost given up hope.

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“Albus Dumbledore is gay and had fallen in love with fellow wizard and friend, Gellert Grindelwald. “

My head is spinning. Wow. One more reason to love gay men lol.

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Yes, he can! And JKR just proved it. Again, I say: Insightful and amazing! JKR--a writer for our times!

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Are we to be shocked by this news? I thought the seventh book was rather blatant in its suggestion of Grindeldore as a couple!

Now I don’t need to feel ashamed for reading and writing fan-fiction of it. It’s canon. XD

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DUMBLEDORE IS GAY??? WOW…I’M NEVER GOING TO LOOK AT HIM THE SAME WAY AGAIN!! LOLOL

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Yes! Rainbow pride and twinkly eyes, YAY!

I’m so happy. Because I now know why Dumbledore was a blindsided git in his youth: he was in luuurve.

This is one of those “Awwww…” moments. I’m so wearing a Dumbledore shirt to the next SF Pride. :)

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WOOOHOOOO!!!!!

This is a victory for homosexuality the world over. Dumbledore is iconic, and I can’t wait for all those little children to hear about this. I am so insanely proud of Jo for doing this! YES!

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Why do we have to know Dumbledores sexual orientation? I say Boo JK. Why did you need to reveal that.

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JK Rowling rocks my world. I do wish there had been some subtle clues throughout the series alluding to Dumbledore’s sexuality, but I guess Jo never really found the appropriate time or place in the books to make mention of this fact.

I think this is SO great, it really explains a lot about the whole situation with Grindelwald, ‘cause to me the fact that Dumbledore putted off fighting him for so many years solely because of the fact that they had been best friends for a short while did not make sense. They were in loooove!! How wonderful!!! This adds another layer to the wonderful character that is Albus Dumbledore. Boy, I love him.

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Now, I really think Ian McKellan should’ve played him.

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If I ever thought Jo could not impress me any further, I was SO wrong. To have one of the coolest, most respected wizards in history and mentor of Harry Potter as gay, is the bravest move JKR has EVER made. I salute her.

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OH. MY. GOD. WOW. I’m so happy! Squeee!!! I love Dumbledore so much. It’s kinda sad what Grindelwald turned into, I wonder if Dumbledore, like Snape, spent his life loving someone he couldn’t have. It’s so sad, but it’s so beautiful, and it makes perfect sense. I wonder, how do wizards typically feel about other gay wizards, and is gay marriage legal in the wizarding world? It’s a hot button in the U.S., but I think the British aren’t as uptight about it. I hope this doesn’t give fuel to the fundamentalist fires. I also hope this doesn’t turn into a debate about homosexuality, either. I love Dumbledore even more now that I know he loved someone romantically. So Neville married Hannah Abbott. All those fanfics were right! I hope they had lots of clumsy, brave, loyal, blonde, pinkfaced babies.

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Wow-that was shocking to me…I saw no forshadowing…. Wow-the furor this will stir, and you thought the Laura Mallory’s were bad before…just wait.

JKRowling is a couragous woman.

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If there was ever a day I thought I could love gay men more, this is that day. That is SO awesome! I’m on cloud nine and three-quarters. And I love that line, “Just imagine the fan fiction now.” ^^

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Ha, I agree with that one Chris.

It is a surprising revelation but it does kind of explain the fact that Dumbledore waited so long to go and fight Gridelwald in 1945. I’m glad to find all of this out.

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i was just there and it was AMAZING the audiences reaction at the dumbledore was gay thing was so funny. some people were clapping, others laughing, cheering, or some had their jaws wide open in disbelief. but all in all, it was awesome

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Samantha, did she say Grindelwald loved him back? I don’t remember reading that. I don’t know why it’s such a bad thing Dumbledore is gay. I agree, it’s definitely one of the bravest things Jo has ever done, but then when has she ever been afraid? Ian McKellan would have been awesome.

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WHAT??!! WHAT!!!!!!!??? I just cannot wait to hear the comments on Pottercast on this one. I NEVER thought I’d say this about anything revealed to us by Jo, but my gut says that this is really a stretch. It’s just out of left field. If Albus was truly gay, why didn’t we hear anything about this in the books? Wouldn’t this be important? And if it’s not important, why mention it at all? It just seems bizarre. Perhaps my age has made me jaded, but instead of a revelation, it seems so tabloid. And I love these books, and all of it’s characters, too much to have that be the case. I’m confused.

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Oh.Wow.Oh.Wow

I think I could have gone on without that pice of information! Nothing against gay-ness, just that “DD” and “sex” don’t go right in my mind!!!!

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So lets stop and think about what’s going to happen next. Yes, the Laura Mallorys of the world are going to go CRAZY with this. I seriously seeing this as going on the news. But then what? I hope it doesn’t go too far, but let’s face it, there is alot of closed-mindness in the world. I swear if it gets to the point of protests and book burnings and angry mobs I’m the first to sign up for the next reincarnation of Dumbledore’s Army.

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YES!

Congrats Dumbledore!

He was my favorite HP character before and I LOVE HIM EVEN MORE NOW!!!!!

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

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Totally didn’t need to know that.

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Wow. That’s freaking awesome, actually. I’ve loved Dumbledore, but I never thought of him that way. It’s… wow.

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Just think…”Dumbledore’s Army” is gonna have a whole new angle to it now. Especially among the gay community and activists…lol.

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I thought this was a joke at first, oh, god, the fanfics!!

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clues to his sexuality? Come on! Look how he dressed! No straight man can pull off those robes with such class… I love it and my final piece of the puzzle of the man who is DD is secure in its place.

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It wouldn’t be too late for Sir Ian McKellen to step into the HP series though. He can play Grindelwald.

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Oh my goodness. I don’t believe this. I think she is kidding with us. And if its true. I’m just glad he didn’t come onto to harry.

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WHAT? I could care less if someone is gay (as I, myself, am gay), but I do have a problem with Dumbledore being gay, because she didn’t write the relationship between Grindelwald and Dumbledore that way at all. Either she decided that after the fact or she can’t write romance worth a darn. Pathetic Rowling, just pathetic.

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Was this really necessary? I have no problem with gay people, but it just seems like something that was not important in the books and not important to mention now. There will be parents now who won’t want their kids reading the books because Dumbledore is gay, even though nothing of the sort is mentioned in the books.

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Thrilled beyond measure.

I agree with what someone said earlier—this is even more awesome because it adds another layer to Dumbledore’s character, which is already so rich and complicated.

I hope he got over Grindlevald and fell in love again.

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OHHH..i think i just died laughing. oh wow. i love jo so much, this is just perfect. but not really the stuff i was looking for. No offence to hannah, but i dont really understand the whold neville hannah thing. they never even really interacted in the books. i mean, come on. he so should have hooked up with luna.

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I think this may also explain why Albus Dumbledore constantly turned down the job as Minister of Magic. There would have been a HUGE scandal at the Ministry if the wizarding community found out he was gay, and he would have been drummed out of the Ministry in very short order. It should be noted that Dumbledore kept that secret even from Harry, as noted by Dumbledore treating Harry like a regular father-son relationship.

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That does explain a lot… she’s definitely got guts to tell the world, too. I don’t know why I didn’t see it coming, because there really were plenty of clues.

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I am so excited and thrilled that Jo made Dumbledore gay. This just means she must be supportive of gay rights and I think that’s great because she’s such a huge figure in this world and maybe she’ll send a message to young children that gay is ok and that no one deserves to be treated badly or discriminated against.

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i just cant stop thinking its all a joke. like shes just gonna pop out tomorrow and say “gotcha!” she is so brave if its true though. shes gonna get so much trouble over this.

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I don’t think it would’ve fit in DH or any of the other books to put in that DD was gay. It wasn’t necessary to do so. I liked the way that she handed it by stating it after the books were written.

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Calm down Elfster. Its her choice to say what she wants. If your cant grow up and except the fact that a grown man is happy being with another man, then you should step out of your imaginary world of perfect, and see reality. We all have a little gay in us, wither or not we want or choose to except that, its there!

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I never thought of Dumbledore as gay, or straight for that matter. I kind of viewed him as asexual. like, he just…didn’t.

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...Wow. All those Grindeldore shippers were right!!! My head is spinning and it won’t stop. Wow.

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I like Geekboy’s comment… :) I thought the same way about DD>

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You know, the way JKR decribed his outfit in the very beginning, on Privet Drive in PS/SS, it made me wonder, eccentric or gay? Now I know- both!

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lol..yea i guess i just dont really think about the harry potter characters’ sexualities. it sort of just doesnt apply to the story line..

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Leave it to Jo to write a homosexual character without a hint of stereotyping in any of the seven books. Dumbledore was (and still is for me, even in light of book seven) one of the most, if not the most admirable person in the series (maybe just behind Harry ;). I love Dumbledore even more now and I admire Jo’s writing and development of him. Way to go Jo, for attacking difficult themes in children’s literature. It’s true we never could’ve guessed what Dumbledore’s sexual orientation was, but the fact that she told everyone even now took a lot of guts because I can see it being perceived as controversial. Once again, go Jo!

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OMG your right….Dumbledore’s Army is going to have a whole new angle. lol….

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I am SO DISAPPOINTED with JKR’s decision to identify Dumbledore as gay. If this is her way of being politically correct, I’m not buying it…or is this just her ploy to spike her book sales?

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ohhh wow. you gotta love jo. only she could throw something in like this and have people cheer.

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and boo at the same time

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Haha…this is amazing. Oh the FanFiction community is going to to buzzing now :D Funnily, I always pictured that Neville would be with Susan, but I like Hannah…he married a ‘Puff! I never thought of Dumbledore as being in love with Grindelvald…I wonder if it was mutual?

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As a Christian teacher, it has been hard enough promoting these books to parents, but now with the thought that there may be a gay undertone in them, it is going to be impossible – Great JO, THANKS A LOT.

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David> Why do we have to know Dumbledores sexual orientation? I say Boo JK. Why did you need to reveal that.

Puhlease! If she said Dumbledore used to love some woman, does it offend you that she reveal his ‘straight’ sexual orientation too!?

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stop worrying about promoting them..she doesnt even mention anything about gayness in the books. if they’re good books, they will be read. it just happens on its own.

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To someone’s previous comment, if parents won’t let their children read the books because Jo revealed DD’s sexuality, then they’re just a bunch of ignorant fools that need to step out of their little conservative, bigoted holes.

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I knew it! I knew it! I knew it! I’ve said all along that I believed that Big-D might be gay. I mean there were very tiny hints here and there throughout the books, but when I read HPDH I cheered because the whole background story that was given for Big-D’s life seemed to support my beliefs.

Now, I must go rub it in the faces of those that got mad at me for stating my beliefs all those years ago!

Thanks for being so open about this JKR!

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Shep>As a Christian teacher, it has been hard enough promoting these books to parents, but now with the thought that there may be a gay undertone in them, it is going to be impossible – Great JO, THANKS A LOT.

Roll my eye and point at laugh! This is too funny. The gay angle wasn’t an issue nor bring up AT ALL in the story, yet some of you are still get all offend because a character is gay in the manner of a background info.

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Yeah, this does feel like a joke. Like she just thought it up to add some political correctness. I have to admit my opinion of her dropped for the first time. I mean, I have several close gay friends. But… from a writing stand point? Just doesn’t seem to fit. Flame all you will and say anyone who doesn’t like it is homophobic. Not true.

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I think this is the only thing JKR has ever revealed about any of the characters that I wish she hadn’t. It just has nothing to do with the story, so what is the point of adding that after the books are done.

And I don’t want to know about any of the other staff either. We needed to know that Snape loved Lily and alway did as that was crucial to the plot. But Dumbledore? Totally not necessary, and it really spoils the character for me. Sorry, I don’t mean to offend, but what someone does privately is not something I need or want to know.

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Why are all the good ones gay?

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Just thought of something else I wanted to say. :-) Another thing that bothers me is her comment about the fanfiction. It’s like she knows full well there are going to be all sorts of ‘adult’ stories written about Dumbledore, which we all know full well will often include Harry, Ron, etc. And… she’s good with that? I don’t know… weird.

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i dont have a problem with gay people, but this is slightly disturbing to me. gosh no wonder he was always humming. well…i am just going to pretend i never heard this because i always imagined him as being to busy saving the world and being broken to be romanticlly involved with anyone so im just going to pretend i never heard it. im not dissing on homosexuality though so dont hate me anyone. btw i dont think i have ever seen a really old gay man in my life, maybe because it was so hushed up back when old men were young, and the thought is definitely different for me

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Shausto-la – You are right, she doesn’t mention (and didn’t need to) it’s just that she has now given the whole series the THOUGHT that there may be gay undertones and that will make it impossible to promote this book to Christian parents. I love the books and did not need this or think it was necessary.

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revealing that dumbys gay doesnt change anything about the books: theyre still absolutely amazing. it just adds more depth to the character. so now, when you read it, you know whats happening in his head whenever he sees grindelwald..haha

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lol, Elizabeth. true that. but the saddest thing is he wasn’t able to make anyone happy as far as we know.

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I am absolutely, positively chuffed about this news! Thank you, Jo! The Albus/Gellert vibe was rather clear to me. And I adore that she wrote a gay character without the usual stereotypes. He is, in fact, the most badass character in the series, aside from Harry. Well done, Jo. Just effing well done!

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What the HELL is wrong with you people who think Dumbledore would have come on to Harry just because he’s gay?

UM

CLEARLY THERE IS A BIG FREAKIN AGE DIFFERENCE

Jesus Christ. You people make me sick.

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JW – Learn to write a little more coherently.

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I cant believe he is gay.. not that I have a problem with gay people.. just wow.. didn’t see that one coming… its just wowza my sister started laughing when I told her and then she changed her facebook status to say Dumbledore’s gay!

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Kristin: For some reason, people associate gay with pedophile. It’s disgusting, really. The knowledge of him being gay doesn’t change the books at all.

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I am surprised at the number of negative comments that this news has received. While I can understand some are upset that J.K. Rowling is being, to quote, “politically correct” in letting characters be gay, what we need to do is apply this knowledge to her series thematically.

Does this alter the story in any way? It doesn’t. Dumbledore is exactly the same person he was before. Society and culture in the United States still struggle with prevalent stereotypes about homosexuals, especially homosexual males, regarding them usually as prissy men with lisps. J.K. Rowling, in revealing this, will actually help build a proper treatment of homosexual individuals. Too often they are stereotyped. Whether or nor you agree with homosexuality does not matter. What she is doing is breaking down the superficial barriers people frequently discuss and the misguided prejudices people carry in their opinion of sexual orientation. By revealing Dumbledore is gay, J.K. Rowling is helping to show that gays are human. That truth is not decided by political views. Social conservatives and liberals can agree on this point.

When reading the book, I thought Dumbledore’s experience epitomized the Christian themes of the story. His struggle with his temptation for power and the Deathly Hallows was ready evidence of his fight against sin. His reformation after the death of Ariana is typical of the rebirth of the common everyman in the Christian religion. Dumbledore’s being gay does not change that. To know that he had to cope with that burden in addition to the rest, only makes him more human and genuine a character, one who had to deal with issues throughout his life. If that isn’t godly, I don’t know what is.

Refusing to allow something deemed sinful into literature isn’t going to “instill” values in anyone. By discussing it a reader can gain them. Dumbledore was a character to which all could aspire – and he still is. This news doesn’t change that. Being gay hasn’t changed him a bit. To pretend that it does only hints at hating the sinner in addition to the sin – which is a value no one should exercise regardless of their religion or sexual orientation.

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That explains SO much. Sincerely, I feel like I’ve got some closure on Dumbledore. JK saying he’s gay officially put that final puzzlepiece of DD’s character into place. I don’t know why I didn’t see it before… I ought to have seen it in Philosopher’s Stone when he shows up on Privet Drive, but alas. Bravo JK.

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Kristin, because Harry is a big freaking gorgeous hunk! That’s why! Your mind is too dirty!

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it doesnt make dumbledore or the books any different. hes still the great dumbledore. he just..doesnt hit it off with the ladys.

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Wow…just wow…didn’t see that one coming. (DD)

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Roger: No offense, but you sound so stupid right now. How does the knowledge that’s he’s gay change the books AT ALL? When has there ever been any homosexual content in the books? NEVER. I don’t see how you can sit there and say ‘I don’t want to read about’ when it’s not in the damn book to begin with! The comments here are ridiculous.

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Wow, Roger, you make ME sick to my stomach. And ps, you didn’t read about it.

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i agree YvonneMarie, the whole gay dumby doesnt change anything. at all. get over it. it just makes him all teh more amazing.

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Well said, YvonneMarie!

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but dumbledore isnt the typical romantic. hes so much awesomer than that.

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Seems like the same people who say this background info it doesn’t change anything in the book, that should tell you a character’s sexual orientation shouldn’t CHANGE who he is. Yet look at how all these readers suddenly all feel disgusted and dare to think Dumbledore is a pedophile now…you people are so bigot and small minded boneheads!

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YES! FINALLY! Woot!

Full transcript, please! :)

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That. Is. AWESOME!!! :D Go JKR, putting a gay character in HP! :D My love for her and her genius is so very much!!!

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I’m not even gay myself but the amount of homophobia and downright ignorant comments in this post is what the real sickening part of all this is. So Dumbledore is gay. So? SO? I repeat: IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE BOOKS, PEOPLE. You have the knowledge of what his sexuality is now but there is no actual homosexual content in the books. And with the comments of how ‘gross’ and ‘weird’ it is, I could slap a bitch.

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Roger, you DO have something against gay people. Why can’t a gay man be great mentor to Harry? What a bigot you are!

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i cant stand to listen to you people go on and on about how dumbledore isnt the same. apparently shes had this planned for a while, so hes been gay for a while now. Dumbledore Has Always Been Gay. you just didnt know it. it really doesnt change anything about him. he is still dumbledore.

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This makes the Harry/Dumbledore relationship kinda weird now

Rita Skeeter was on to something!

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What does it matter if Dumbledore’s gay? I don’t care; he’s brilliant, and everything, champion of muggles and muggle-borns, contributed a lot of things in the wizaeding world more than any wizard had done… what does it matter if he’s gay?

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If someone could make up some ‘I love my dead gay Dumbledore’ icons forthwith, that would be just terrific.

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YvonneMarie – Do you agree that it may make parents think, in the future, that there is a gay undertone to the books now? Therefore, why does it need to be said? The books have nothing to do with that.

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Should we start calling Melissa Hannah if she’s the landlady of the Leaky Cauldron?

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billy-’‘To someone’s previous comment, if parents won’t let their children read the books because Jo revealed DD’s sexuality, then they’re just a bunch of ignorant fools that need to step out of their little conservative, bigoted holes.’’ ur the bigot to talk like that, people have different beliefs

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One more thing. Remember how some religious parents wouldn’t let their kids read this series because of the magic – something totally fake and made up.

Gay isn’t made up. Unlike magic it is quite possible for kids to believe its perfectly fine to be gay because Dumbledore was. Now how many parents are going to ban the series from their kids now? Millions! I simply can’t believe JKR would do something so thoughtless.

Earlier some one commented that no one deserves to be mistreated or harassed because of their sexual orientation – this is absolutely true and THAT could have been in the series. But making the greatest wizard that ever lived gay doesn’t say that – it says “Hey kids, you should be gay too!”

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I really can’t believe all the people that are shocked here. This is confirmation for a rather huge section of fandom who always guessed as much, and already felt the Doge and Grindelwald mentions in DH were fairly implicit. Nothing ‘left field’ here at all.

I think its great. Too bad so many fat heads will find this as another reason to bash Harry Potter, but I think it’s lovely.

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I have no trouble believing that Dumbledore is…er….was….I guess I have to admit he DID die… gay. Jo clearly gets the point, all kinds of people are gay and the being gay is hardly the main point of who they are. What I really can’t believe is some of the ignorant, homophobic stuff that some of you people are posting here. One would think that if you have read the Harry Potter books you would know better.

There is a line from the movie “In and Out” some of y’all need to take to heart, from one of Kevin Kline’s students after Kline comes out at his wedding: “You guys, face it. We had a gay teacher. All Year. We have to accept that and go on with our lives”

You guys, face it. We had a gay Headmaster. All seven books. You just need to accept it and go on with your lives.

And cut the heterosexist moaning and rants against Jo for just making you do what you do in the real world every day——interacting with gay people.

What I think really bugs you is that the gay person isn’t one of the minor characters who isn’t relly key to the story--like I dunno- Cormac McLaggan say, It’s Dumbledore, wise and powerful, in control and essential.

Gay people are that too! Get over it.

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“I’m just glad he didn’t come onto to harry,” what the hell… it’s not like gay men are attracted to every single male out there…

I agree with previous comments, that I always saw Dumbledore as extremely asexual. But cool, I’ve always been slightly upset by the lack of gay characters.

And some of the commenters here are disgusting me with their bigotry.

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I agree with everyone who is thinking that this is a joke…Honestly, Jo, where was the evidence? I mean like if she had backed this up some how, I could see it, work with it, but with no evidence….I am actually kind of disappointed in her. There’s nothing wrong with a person being gay, but there is something wrong with saying a character is gay after the fact. I feel like she only did for the fanfiction and to make a political statement. I mean in the books it is explicitly said that Dumbledore was friends with Grindelwald…if it were so important to mention that he was gay (as I imagine it was, seeing as how she’s now announced it), then why didn’t she make a slight overture about it?

Next I suppose she will come out and say that Ariana Dumbledore really was raped….there’s more evidence to support that than there is that Dumbledore is gay.

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Oh gosh, this night was just so amazing. Jo is so sweet.

I personally think it’s kind of cool that she made Dumbledore gay—I had always assumed him to be.

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Hmm… maybe this should have been one of those “secret lives of characters” things that should stay in the author’s mind. It brings a lot of insight to Dumbledore’s character, and I think it’s cool, but I dread what the media and the fanatical religious right will say. I don’t think they should be given more excuses to trash this wonderful series.

That said, long live Grindeldore! I wonder if it was unrequited, or if there was an actual relationship there?

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Jo Rowling, you are fantastic. SO MUCH LOVE FOR THIS, AM GRINNING LIKE A FOOL.

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You all are right, it is never mentioned in the books. But nevertheless, I now know about it and it will affect my thinking when I re-read the books. :(

I’m just saying it won’t be the same.

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“But making the greatest wizard that ever lived gay doesn’t say that – it says “Hey kids, you should be gay too!”” Noooooooo it doesn’t at all. It says “hey, gay people can be important too.”

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i think the reason it wasnt in the books is because it wasnt relevant. it just didnt apply to the story line. but she thought we ought to know our headmaster was gay, so she told us now. so i’m thanking her. not getting all pissed cus someones gay.

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Lol!

You know what…i must say my mouth fell open when i first read the headline…but once i heard he was in love with grindelwald, i laughed.

I find this all highly amusing! Go Jo! Lol!

And James and Lily giving money to Remus…thats just too sweet! I love them even more now!

And Go Neville! Married a good woman!

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Oh, also, with that out of the way, Neville and Hannah? So adorably sweet.

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BS to her saying she would have brought Dumbledore’s orientation years ago had she known better….

The moment religious organizations or conversative parents would hear that fact that a major father like figure was homosexual and spending hours on end… ALONE with a minor would be the moment that the series would either suffer severe drops in sells… or increased.

Good choice, waiting until now JK… because it’s too late to return the books muwahahahahaha.

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hmmm…maybe it’s just time to agree to disagree. Yes, I was shocked to read that. But now after about an hour, it’s starting to sink in. I agree that he is the same old Dumbledore, and I agree that it plays no role in the existing books. But, I also have to respect everyone’s views. Not everyone is going to like it. Well, not everyone liked the wonderful, long-awaited Ron and Hermione embrace (you know what shippers I’m talking about lol) But let’s not forget poor Neville!! He’s being shoved aside again. I kind of like the idea of perhaps Neville being seen as this great war hero, and Hannah becoming all love-sick and puppy-dogged eyed over him. And then having lots of GryffinPuff babies and growing old together, becoming the ideal Grandma and Grandpa.

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Wawawhoa…so not expected.

Either way it doesn’t matter to me, but it will be kinda different reading the books now. heh, Grindelwald/Dumbledore my golly

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I love getting the backstory on JK’s characters, and hearing that Dumbledore was gay totally rocks my world! There are clues - the plum suit he wears to visit the orphanage in Book 6, the high-heeled boots in Book 1, his impeccable manners :)—but I think it’s perfect that JK added this most fascinating aspect of his character after the series was done. In hindsight this bit of information adds a deeper meaning to the relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald, and who knows if the feeling was mutual?

I found the negative reactions quite interesting; it seems most of our homophobic posters can only (and perhaps only want to?) equate being gay with gay sex. Sex is just one aspect of love, no matter if you’re gay or straight. It saddens me to read the fear and anger behind the negative reaction of finding out Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald.

If there are any more surprises, it will be that Lockhart was simply a narcissistic metrosexual and not gay. :-)

I’m also wearing a Dumbledore shirt for Gay Pride in Atlanta next year!

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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cannot believe that!!! It is soooo weird. I mean, I sort of always thought of Dumbledore as a bit strange, but I didn’t think he was gay…. I am a bit disappointed that Neville and Luna didn’t get together, but it is pretty cool. And when Aunt Petunia was trying to talk to harry, I thought she was trying to say ” I wanted to got to Hogwarts. You’re very lucky.” or quote something else from ‘the prince’s tale’. Sooo weird!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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YvonneMarie – I agree – I’m just worried that it’s now going to be so hard to convince Christian parents in the future that this is a great book to read.

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For those who are saying J.K. Rowling could have constructed a better romance between Grindelwald and Dumbledore, may I ask, how would you have done better? Considering that J.K. Rowling likely didn’t want to actually write homosexuality into her books in the same way she did her Christian faith, what could she have done?

Considering the limits she had to recognize in all likelihood, one would have to say that she did a pretty good job. Millions of readers picked up Grindeldore vibes while reading the book. That has to say something. The romance was at least implied, and one can’t stereotype Grindeldore fans as the typical slasher now. Something was going on when people opened their books on midnight in July. The romance was there if you looked closely enough, hidden beneath layers of interaction and relations.

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OMG! You go Jo! Finally a strong, wise, non-stereotypical portrayal of a gay man! Perhaps she didn’t write that aspect of the relationship because what she wrote was all there was other than Dumbledore’s inner feelings. We are around homosexuals every day and very likely don’t know it most of the time. Why? Because they’re NORMAL people. Maybe that was her point in not making an issue about this in the books. The relationship and Dumbledore’s sexual orientation were alluded to, however, in Rita Skeeter’s interview and book.

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All I care about is Snape got his portrait! About time!!!!!

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i thought jo had said somewhere else that Petunia wanted to wish harry luck? am i imagining things?

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You have got to be kidding, Jo! (DD) This is just not right! I’m never reading the HP books the same way again. In fact, I’m just not reading them again!!!!!

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soooo do you think she will put this in the encylopedia? I would love to learn more about their relationship… I mean whats the point of mentioning it if you aren’t going to write about it? The shock is wearing off, and now I am more curious. For those of you who feel that the books are ruined, then you are not a very good HP fan. So what, DD was gay, build a bridge and get over it. I honestly don’t care if people use this to try to ban the books, their relationship isn’t described in the books at all, it was just a small piece of background info. It’s stupid that people consider baning books anyway.. just my thoughts and feelings. DD is still my favorite character

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it just isn’t necessary. i feel like jkr is just trying for more (unneeded) publicity. i don’t like it.

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Shep: I know, that’s the sad part. Dumbledore is gay and despite there being no gay context in the book, the Christians are going to flip their lids. And this is coming from someone religious.

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People are actually surprised by the Dumbledore revelation?

It wasn’t something I ever thought too much about while reading the series (granted I do wonder about characters’ personal lives when reading) but as soon as the relationship between he and Grindelwald was introduced in Book 7, it seemed a very natural progression. More subtextual than anything.

This doesn’t change who the character is throughout the series. And it’s foolish to think so. The morals and values the character of Dumbledore espouses remain intact.

And face facts, everyone. As a writer, Rowling most likely has very in depth facts on her main characters—and that will include many things that would never make it into the series.

I, for one, enjoy hearing about the author’s take on the lives of her creations.

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It’s surprising I must admit, but more proof that Dumbledor WAS only human…not sure how I feel about this :/ Still really cool to get some answers!

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Okay. I was as shocked as anyone else was at hearing this character twist from Jo. But really what difference does it make? I don’t think about people (or characters) that way in the first place. I had this vision of that scene in “The Fugitive” where Tommy Lee Jones has Harrision Ford trapped at the overflow pipe at the dam and I hear Ford yelling at Jones “Dumbledore was GAY!!!” and Tommy Lee Jones saying “I don’t care!” THAT’S me. I’m Tommy Lee Jones. People tell me that they are gay and I really DON’T care. I either like them or not. Orientation has nothing to do with it.

As for some comments that DD might have come-on to Harry…well, that would make him a pedofile which is completely different and pretty much unrelated. So let’s not even go there, because there is no “there” there.

Besides, everyone is missing the REALLY BIG news that Neville married Hannah Abbott! Yay Neville, Yay Hannah!

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i swear if this is a joke i will die.

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When I reread the first HP novel for my british novel class, I told my classmates I thought Dumbledore was gay. I even wrote my final paper on that. He’s constantly being described effeminately and you never get a real sense of his sexuality. It’s awesome Rowling confirmed this news; HP desperately needed one of it’s major characters to be gay.

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Not only the fanfic, but the yaoi fanart community will explode too!

...I can’t believe I just typed that.

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oh my god firebird..puting ..pictures in my head i dont want to see..

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And how is it wrong ot be gay..thats so steryotypical..and just horrible

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I am truly shocked I never would have thought Albus to be a homosexual. If Jo wanted to help the Gay community or give a positive light to gay people then she would have mentioned he was gay in the series. There are people that don’t get on and read Jo’s interviews or go to fan sites. Unless this makes it to the nightly news, some aren’t going to know about it.

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I have to say something else because it’s really nagging me:

Most of the people here who are bitching about how the books are ruined now that you know a character is gay, most of those people have probably defended the books to the DEATH when religious people attack it for being immoral and the work of the devil.

Now, that we know a character is gay, suddenly those same people are turning into said religious people and going on and on about how wrong it is. Can anyone say ‘hypocritical’?

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On a serious note, I must say I am SO PLEASED. I have many gay friends and Jo has done an amazing thing for them. It’s spectacular what she’s done.

Now, what I really want to know is which one of the girls in the series is a lesbian. I have always had my little fantasy about some Ginny/Hermione action, but that’s a special treat for me. :)

But for real….do you guys think there are any lesbian characters in the series? Maybe Katie Bell?....

I genuinely think this is important stuff. For a personality of her grandeur, who has access to the enrichment of so many young people, and had so much influence, to declare something like this about a beloved character, is a huge step for human rights. Bravo Jo, Bravo.

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i think this is brilliant. it shows that sexuality shouldn’t be a problem with people. dumbledore was an amazing and respected wizard. no one reading the books is ever aware he is gay. why? because it doesn’t matter. we respect him. we love him. we see how much he works to help others. the fact that he is gay is just something about him. it didn’t stop him from getting somewhere in life and it didn’t stop people from liking him.

i hope that children who read harry potter can see this, and learn that being gay isn’t really any different than being straight. it’s great. amazing. i love jk rowling.

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There is no danger in Dumbledore’s sexual orientation “influencing kids to be gay.” Despite what THEY tell you, you don’t decide to be gay. It is NOT a choice.

The comments that express concern that DD came onto Harry because DD is gay are just… get some education, people. PLEASE. Pedophilia and homosexuality are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS, again, despite what THEY tell you.

As for why J.K. had to reveal it… because she wanted to? For a lot of writers, characters don’t exist in the vaccuums of their respective storylines. They have backgrounds and experiences and relationships that aren’t relevant to the plot. They’re still developed. If, in the course of the event, the subject came up, why would she NOT reveal it? She’s revealing a piece of one of her own creations.

Just my two cents.

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thank you ..’Just Someone’ i completely agree. you stole the words right out of my mouth

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dances around OMG! Greater Good is canon! Ha! I knew it! (Well, maybe not knew it, but hoped it)

I’ve been writing fics for Albus/Gellert for months now and they are canon!!! PArty!!!

@James supporting Remus: Awwwwwwwwww.

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Duh.

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I dont have one problem with the books from a religios standpoint. they are WORKS OF FICTION, which is the total point. but i just thought it was very unnecessary for her to reveal that about dumbledore. I mean, weren’t we better off not knowing? the ppl who wanted him to be gay could see their clues and think he was gay the whole time, and the rest of us could enjoy the idea of him being a typical old man (attracted to woman) and look at him in a grandfather like light.

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You know, I think we’ve all just overlooked the fact that Jo has also just revealed that Neville is straight. I mean, we never really knew before now, did we? Sure, he went to the dance with Ginny, but we all know how poorly that turned out.

Why aren’t we discussing this EXTREMELY IMPORTANT relevation?

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Shausto,

I wasn’t aware that there was a point to prove. We’re talking here about the fabric of a human being’s personality, an sexuality is a large part of it. Why would you assume there are no lesbians. Afterall there are many in this world, and have been many, some of them great figures. It’s not wise to be so foolish.

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I was wondering why with all extensive story of DD live in DH we never heard of a women in his live… It makes perfect sense – explains his relationship with Grindelwald, and why DD didn’t challenge GW ealier, and also why GW with Elder wand was still defeated

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haha sorry, jo, I do realize that others have different beliefs. I should clarify. Those who hate others for being different because of who they are are just down-right stupid (especially those who say they are accepting then go gay-bashing).

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Holy! ...Wow! Now that one I did NOT expect, ever! O.O

But I do love hearing that Neville married Hannah Abbott, it sounds about the right thing to happen to our beloved guy. :D

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This is fantastic news! You go, Jo! As a gay person myself, I was never particularly fussed that she had ommitted gay characters, as it wasn’t germaine to the story line. And this back-story really changes nothing, except my respect for Jo has now gone over the moon!

For those writing here that they think this is a publicity stunt – I sincerely doubt that HP and Jo Rowling need any additional notoriety or book sales. I think she was just confirming what many fans suspected at least since HBP (anyone else remember “nice suit, professor”?)

And finally: shame on those here who feel that revealing Dumbledore’s sexuality degrades him in any way. Some of the finest lights of humanity have been Gay: Michaelangelo, Gertrude Stein, Oscar Wilde, to name just a few. The late great Albus Dumbledore is now added to that pantheon of greatness.

I love you Jo!

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to whoever posted the “clues”...those are lame. as for the outfit that dumbledore wore in the sixth book when they go back in his memories-that was the kind of stuff that people wore back then. Have you seen other things that are from that time period? Trust me, that fits right in. And as for the high heeled shoes…Dumbledore’s an old guy from like the 1800s, that was the kind of thing men wore then when they dressed smartly, which it is obvious that Dumbledore was when we first met him in the very first chapter of the very first book (Merlin that seems so far away…)

I always thought of Dumbledore as like a grandfather, so hearing that he’s gay is wierd. NOT because being gay is wierd, but rather because it just doesn’t fit with my image of Dumbledore. I mean have any of YOU thought that YOUR grandfather was gay? I willing to bet that that’s a NO! Grindelwald and Dumbledore always just sounded like friends, like Ron and Harry. It would be far more believeable if Seamus were gay with someone other than Dean Thomas, for obvious reasons (i.e. his crush on Parvati, Ginny, and Luna). The fact that Seamus’ love life is left out speaks to me more of his being gay but it not fitting in the storyline as he is a minor character than Dumbledore, a major character, being gay.

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You have got to be kidding me. I can’t even imagine why she tells us this now. After reading 7 books and already having formed opinions of all the characters why come out with something so big NOW? What is the point? I have to agree with the ‘tabloid’ comment.

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I think this actually is the BEST way to incorporate homosexuality into such an iconic peice of writing.

As a homosexual who has nothing to do with any of the flamboyant stereotypes that float around with the word “Gay”, the fact that a character like Dumbledor can represent the Gay community is really nice. Its a reminder that just because someone isn’t “In your face” flamingly flamboyant, doesn’t mean they aren’t gay.

Sexuality is not blatant 100% of the time. I say spot on to Rowling. Anyone else who thinks it should have been blatant to be cannon, needs to actually meet some REAL gay people, not the Fab 5 trendies.

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sorry guys i think im starting to say some stupid things here. im just gonna go to bed now before i say some more stupid stuff. again sorry

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Why all these negative comments about Dumbledore being gay? I don’t see it as a huge deal. It’s a good thing, and it adds to Dumbledore, but why on earth are some people so outraged about it?

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Jo never intended this to be turned into a huge debate over whether being gay is right or wrong. Please stop arguing! I happen to think that Jo might have revealed a bit too much this time because she should have realized how much buzz this would cause….I mean, think of the media! It’s going to be be blown way out of proportion. I happen to think that the news of Dumbledore’s sexuality is hilarious and fitting, but I know other people do not see it this way. We can’t convince each other of what is moral/immoral because we all have different beliefs. It makes me sad to read these posts because all of us Potter fans are turning against each other :-(.

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in a perfect world, this information would be no more shocking than finding out that Neville marries Hanna. for the first time i’m actually ashamed of the HP fandom for some of these comments. being gay doesn’t mean anything. so he’s gay, how has the books changed?

god bless JKR

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Eeyore: “Sorry, I don’t mean to offend, but what someone does privately is not something I need or want to know.”

So, you didn’t need to know that Harry was in love with Ginny, or anything about Hermione and Ron, or about Tonks and Remus getting married? Those things had no more effect on the plot than this.

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I don’t understand why some people all the sudden don’t like Dumbledore, and why some people have said that they don’t even like the SERIES as much now. Dumbledore is still the same character we have come to know and love- he has always been gay, just the reader never knew it. It just seems so ridiculous to me.

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Well, duh.

It’s a shame she didn’t reveal these details in her writing – you know, character development and all that. It’s kind of sad when she has to fill her great, gaping plot holes after the fact.

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Gee Sam Do you think Gay people never get old??

Amd my GRANDFATHER IS gay.

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I agree? why now? i think it was a publicity stunt, and I don’t care, learning this did change my image from a jolly eccentric old man to a weird character that I can’t relate to anymore

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Yay! This makes me so happy! I had never considered the possibility of Dumbledore/Grindelwald before, so now I have to go reread the sections of book 7 that discuss it.

Lydia Mason – a book (or anything else for that matter) cannot “encourage” children to be gay. Sexual orientation is not a choice – it’s just how we are born. Reading a book with a gay character is not going to make more children gay – but hopefully, it will make them more comfortable and accepting of gay people. Maybe it will even be able to help adolescents who are gay, in that they will be able to identify with Dumbledore, making them more comfortable with their own sexuality.

Gaymanspeaks – I think you’ve got a good point, and it made me stop and think for a bit. On the other hand, we never actually see Dumbledore and Grindelwald interacting, so it’s hard to say how they worked together and related to each other. Also, Dumbledore may have kept his feelings concealed, which would account for the fact that none of the other characters discuss it. But I’m curious – in what ways was Dumbledore’s crush unrealistic? I think I’d understand your views a little better if you could clarify them a bit. Thanks!

To all those who think this was a political move – JKR has never changed her books to make a political point, so I don’t see why she’d start now. Also, it’s incredibly unlike her to make drastic changes to her characters, especially now that she doesn’t have to make minor changes to cover plot holes in future books.

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This isn’t about moral/immoral, it’s about changing the core of who we thought the character was all along. There was never even hints by JKR about this, then all of a sudden now after all the books are done and she throws it out there…..3 months later nonetheless. It just makes no sense to me.

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Go Jo!

I’m quite taken aback at the negative comments here. Dumbledore’s gay? Who cares! It doesn’t change the story at all. If anything it makes me love Dumbledore even more; he had to face and take down someone that he was in love with. I can’t wait to here more about the background of characters! It might not be relevant to the plot of the books outright, but it’s interesting. It’s nice to see the gay community represented in these books. With all of the characters, statically, how could here be no gay men or women?

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“Well, duh.

It’s a shame she didn’t reveal these details in her writing – you know, character development and all that. It’s kind of sad when she has to fill her great, gaping plot holes after the fact.”

Apparently you do not know what a plot hole is.

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Hey Aghhh!

You don’t get to decide who the characters are, nor any of their aspects! JKR does. ;)

And, frankly, I don’t see how it’s “wrong”. Kids don’t just decide that they’re going to be gay because of a character in a book. NO one does. NO ONE DECIDES TO BE GAY. It’s not a choice, despite what your particular religious or political platform says.

Frankly, your implication that someone who is gay can’t be “good” is one of the most offensive comments so far. Good job!

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aghhh- I think Dumbledore stopped being the epitome of goodness when it was revealed that he wanted to rule over muggles with Grindelwald when he was younger, ‘for the greater good.’

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you guys see this yet? the rest of the questions. http://hpana.com/news.20228.html

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This is the most exciting thing I’ve read in months…. Yay for having an amazing and powerful gay figure who’s about MORE than just being gay! I like that Jo announced it after the books were finished. It shows that a character doesn’t have to be DEFINED by his or her sexuality. Too often gay characters are just that - the “gay characters.” They walk around, doing gay things, and that’s it. Dumbledore is a character in his own right - his homosexuality is just another aspect of his personality. I wasn’t as pleased with Deathly Hallows as I wanted to be, but now I’m incredibly pleased with JKR.

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shausto- thanks for the link :)

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I think this is really “out of the blue” because in all seven novels, we had completely no knowledge that Albus Dumbledore was gay—it appears that even Rita Skeeter’s “biography” described in Deathly Hallows never found out the truth, either. It’s a case of a sexual orientation that almost nobody knew except maybe his very closest kin (even his teachers at Hogwarts and the people in the Ministry of Magic never found out, either).

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Neville and Hannah Abbot?? Did they even talk to each other in the whole series

I liked hearing about JKR pausing after she read the line, ””No, I heard you coming out of my pocket.” When she was reading the chapter where Ron returns. LOL. she’s great. I also loved the part where she says what would have happened if Arthur Weasley had died i OOTP. She said that Ron would have lost his sense of humor and that Harry would not have seen the burrow as a refuge because the atmosphere would have been different. She also said that Ron’s humor came from his immaturity and insecurities. And that he was the last of the trio to become an adult when he faced his fears in book 7.

All of that info was great. I can’t wait to hear more.

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Cecil – did there have to be hints? We haven’t had hints as to the sexual orientation of quite a lot of characters. If JKR made an announcement that Charlie Weasley (just for example) was straight, it wouldn’t change who he is. So why does being gay change “the core of who we thought the character was all along”? He’s still the same guy he always was.

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hannah…if your grandfather is gay…how did you get here? Unless he choose to be gay later?

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Ugh, I am quite frankly upset at some of these comments. There was NO reason to assume or think that Dumbledore was gay. NONE! People who claimed to have “seen” it, couldn’t have…unless of course they also see Harry/Draco, Severus/Draco, Draco/Lucius, Dean/Seamus, Sirius/Remus, Tom Riddle/Harry, and all the other absolutely retarded fanon ships that have no basing in canon at all. I’m sorry, Jo, but you lose on this one…It really bums me to have to say that too, but there is no grounding in canon at all for this. There’s nothing wrong with having a gay person in the books, or even a strong male nonsterotypical gay person in the books, but there IS something wrong with saying something is there when it clearly isn’t—or if she was trying to put in in there, then she did a horrible job because nobody could pick up on it. Severus/Lily was far more predictable and a until-the-last-minute-dropped-in love story.

And Neville/Hannah? Did they ever speak? That’s also wierd….I adore this story, but I’m not sure how much I want to hear if Jo’s going to continue on like this. It sounds like she’s making it up as she goes to each different place. I want to hear more about what she planned, not more about what she is saying because she has to come up with an answer, like the John Dawlish thing….She has given herself time before the Hogwarts enclypedia. If I waited over seven years for the seventh book, I can wait another few years for a well-thought out backstory for the characters that she has created.

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Okay, my previous comment wasn’t supposed to be struck out like that… I didn’t realize that using dashes as punctuation marks caused that formating.

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Well, I did catch the allusion to DD having an “unnatural” interest in Harry—wasn’t that a swipe by Rita Skeeter? There was something about DD’s past that caused that rumor to surface, the insult to have bite. Rita’s very good at ferreting out the undercurrents and see if she can dig up any dirt.

I am disappointed that JKR seems to really shy away from the Malfoys though, I am sure there is more than what she has told us. Wasn’t there a whole chapter about them she cut out? Maybe she’s saving them for another story. But considering their connections (to Sirius, to Voldemert, to Harry and to Ron) they must have an interesting backstory.

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What?,

Not daring to speak for Hannah, I think I can answer this one. Many gays and lesbians will marry people of the opposite sex and have kids, either in a denial mechanism or to hide their true sexual orientation. It’s not a matter of “choosing” sexual orientation, but rather of choosing to take active steps to HIDE it.

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Wow aghhh, you just made me realize, yet again, that there are still sad sorry little people in this world. Maybe if you actually got to know someone who is gay instead of making assumptions from what someone brainwashed you to believe, you might change your opinion a bit.

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here’s some more info from the event:

Jo departed from previous readings and read from chapter 19 and started after a Horcrux was destroyed and Ron returned to Harry and Hermione. During her reading Jo took on the voices of each of the characters making sure that Hermione’s anger at Ron was projected to the audience. At one point Jo lost her composure when she read the line “No, I heard you coming out of my pocket.” which she did not finish, as the audience broke out in laughter followed by Jo laughing along with us.

Below is a summary of the questions and answers from tonight’s event (paraphrased):

She was surprised that no one had ever asked her what Dumbledore’s wand was made of. If ever asked this question she would have simply said “It’s made of Elder” and left it at that.

In answering a question about Neville and finding love, Jo said that he married the landlady from the Leaky Cauldron which happened to be Hannah Abbott, and that living above the Leaky Cauldron would have impressed his students at Hogwarts.

When asked why she chose Molly to kill Bellatrix she replied that she wanted to 1) show that Molly was an extremely talented witch even though she spent most of her time in the kitchen, and 2) she wanted to compare the obsession Bellatrix had with Voldemort with Molly’s maternal love for her children.

The next question referred to what would have occurred if Arthur had died in Order of the Phoenix. Jo said that it would have changed books 5, 6 and 7 and that Ron’s character would have lost his sense of humor and taken away Harry’s refuge at the Weasley home. She also mentioned that Ron’s humor stemmed from insecurities and immaturity and that he was the last to become an adult, by facing his fears in the last book.

When eight-year-old Mia asked an Aberforth question, Jo asked her age and said that just for her the answer would be “that the goats were easy to keep clean and that they had curly horns,” as the audience roared with laughter.

Now for the question that stunned the audience – Did Dumbledore love anyone? Jo started to say “I always saw Dumbledore as gay” as a hush fell on the audience followed by a excited response by all in attendance. She went on to say that she had recently read the script for Half-Blood Prince and noticed a passage in which Dumbledore recalled a past female love – she immediately crossed out the passage and added the words “Dumbledore is gay” in the margin.

When asked about parseltongue, Jo answered that Ron had mastered one sound but it wouldn’t be a language someone could learn.

What was in Dumbledore’s letter to the Dursley’s in book 1 was the next question and Jo responded by saying that Petunia had wanted to go to Hogwarts and by taking in Harry she was taking in a part of the world that she never participate in.

Then next question is one that many fans have answered themselves in reference to the Basilisk and why did it not kill Voldemort’s soul in Harry. Rowling stated that Harry was not destroyed beyond repair because Fawkes was around to heal him but later was conveniently absent when other Horcruxes were destroyed.

Jo replied that Harry did not consult with Dumbledore’s portrait for 3 reasons: 1)The portrait was not available as it was at Hogwarts, 2) Dumbledore didn’t want to tempt Harry with the Hallows but wanted him to learn of them slowly due to Harry’s flaws and 3) it was too easy and there wouldn’t be a plot.

When asked to confirm that the Death Eaters were based on the Nazis, Jo answered by saying that it was a conscience decision, people will die and that you shouldn’t believe what your government or newspapers tell you.

When Jo reminisced about completing the first versus the last book she said that it was very similar and that her husband, who was in attendance, hated her for a few weeks because she was unbearable to live with.

After Jo had answered the initial 12 questions a spokesperson from Scholastic revealed that 4 additional questions would be asked by sweepstakes winners from the audience. First up asked if Malfoy now owed Harry a life-debt and Jo stated that there was no magical ties between the two but that Malfoy had to be forever grateful to Harry for saving his life, which is evident in the last chapter in book seven when meet at platform 9¾.

Donna, from the very top of Carnegie Hall was next in line and after sprinting down the stairwell she breathlessly asked “What was the careers after graduation of James, Lily, Sirius and Lupin?” Jo said Lupin was unemployable and impoverished because of his condition and that James, Lily and Sirius were employed full-time in the Order of the Phoenix (James was rich and that’s how they lived.)

When asked did Hagrid ever find love, the audience sighed and Jo responded that she should probably change her answer but that, no, he never did.

The last question of the night referred to Snape’s portrait and Harry and she answered that Harry would have insisted that it be hung in the headmaster’s office at Hogwarts but that he probably would not have visited it to converse with Snape. Jo is still surprised when she reads that fans are torn about Snape and unequivocally stated that Snape was “bitter, vindictive and mean.”

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was this neccesary?

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I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to offend. I just meant Dumbledore was shown to be overall religiously moral, and this particular information about him is not accepted in many religions.

Okay, so kids aren’t going to turn gay by reading this, but it is exposing this reality in a positive light, which a lot of parents will not like.

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I kind of suspected it after DH – after all, Dumbledore’s …attachment to Grindelwald seemed a bit much for just a teenage summer friendship. Bravo, JKR – whenever I think she can’t impress me more she always manages to put something else out there! :D

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Agree Tom!!

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“There’s nothing wrong with having a gay person in the books, or even a strong male nonsterotypical gay person in the books, but there IS something wrong with saying something is there when it clearly isn’t—or if she was trying to put in in there, then she did a horrible job because nobody could pick up on it.”

Gay people are people like anybody else. He didn’t acted in a non-gay manner, he acted like a person and not a stereotype.

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Just wanted to change the subject and tell you what the Harry and Hermione shippers are saying now.

“Yay! I read that article where JKR talks about marrying Harry.

The truth is, in my younger days, I dated Ron more than once,” she admitted, giving an inside look at why Hermione (the closest character to Rowling’s younger self) might be attracted to Harry’s best friend. “He’s fun to write, but not so much fun to date.” And once she had learned her lesson, Rowling said, “I married Harry Potter,” referring to her second husband, Neil Murray. source: MTV This is great news for us H/Hr shippers. Although Hermione dated Ron and even married him, she’s gonna “learn her lesson”, wake up to reality and marry Harry. He’s the best man after all.”

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Wow; all the comments about how it’s not necessary to the plot and how Dumbledore’s sexual orientation should have been “private” or not mentioned at all…

Did you folks actually read the last couple of books?? Raging hormones everywhere! Who is taking whom to the dance, who is, to quote Ron, “snogging” whom – they talk about it, dream about it, plan it, have angst around it…was any of that “necessary” to the plot? We know the sexual orientations of almost every STUDENT at Hogwarts, and they are – gasp – mere teenagers.

Anyone who suggested that because Dumbledore was gay then he should have or would have “made a pass” at Harry or any of his students does not deserve the dignity of a response, but here it is. Gay does not equal abusive, untrustworthy, or interested in children. When you imagined him as straight, would you imagine him “coming on to” Hermione? Probably not. Give him the same respect of character as a gay man, then.

And as for being politically correct…when has JKR given a fig for being “correct”? Who does she have to please now? Who will rush to buy the books because a central charcter has been identified as gay outside the realm of the printed collection? Xtian extremists think they will have a harder time getting other extremists to read them? Um; ok. But you know, they is THEIR problem, not JKR’s. These are the people who want the books out of libraries and who want to burn them. Why should JKR avoid saying anything she made up about HER characters to please people who think Harry Potter will lead their children to practicing Wicca – and say that SERIOUSLY.

It always amazes me that people who you would think might take to heart JKR’s messages of tolerance, understanding, openness and bravery would still have space left there to fear, hate, dislike or just feel ooogy about the very idea that someone admirable, trustworthy, brave and kind (especially to children) could also be gay.

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This just seemed like an unnecessary piece of information. It doesn’t really add anything to the story. Don’t get me wrong I have nothing wrong with fgay people, I have a lot of gay friends. It just seems like it came out of nowhere. I didn’t really see any evidence in the books pointing to Albus being gay.

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But why bother now guy? She had to know that this announcement would be huge at this point. Why say this now? That’s the problem I have with it?

Did DH not get enough press? Is she trying to get it back into the media? It just seems quite odd timing to me, being in USA, that so long after the last book comes out such a HUGE point is given to us.

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It’s shocking. Absolutely it’s shocking. But it’s also wonderfully brave.

And you know, that doesn’t change a thing about Dumbledore. He’s still the same mentor we’ve been reading about for seven books. We just know a little more about him now. What, are you mad that we now know Neville got married to Hannah? Does that ruin Neville for you? Does it change your view of him because he’s attracted to girls? No? Why am I not surprised. It should be no different for Dumbledore.

Although it would have been nice to see a positive homosexual relationship too, I hope no one honestly thinks this is how Jo sees all gay relationships. It’s how she see Dumbledore and Grindelwald’s relationship.

They’re her characters, people, not yours. Sorry you don’t like her choices. I don’t like all of them either. But throwing a fit will not change them.

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This news confirms so much I had suspected about Albus. He had to battle the one person he truly loved in order to save the world. That adds SO MUCH to the story, folks. That whole battle scene is so much more raw and gut-wrenching when you put yourself in his place. MASTERFULLY done Jo. Masterfully.

- Just another Soldier in Dumbledore’s Army

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Celia – If you like the last book, fair enough. I don’t. I’m here because I loved the books and was horrified to see the shambles that brought it to a conclusion. JKR could and should have done better but she dialed the last one in and that’s a real shame. And I’m entitled to say that here or anywhere else because being a fan doesn’t mean ignoring crappy writing.

The real shame of all this is the furor over OMG!! Dumbledore is TEH GAY!! is overshadowing the real details she finally got around to dealing with.

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Yeah, it does seem like a really weird time to announce this little piece of information…

Interesting, very interesting. I liked the other stuff she talked about though—Petunia’s thoughts! Aww. =P

And Snape’s portrait. =D

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“But why bother now guy? She had to know that this announcement would be huge at this point. Why say this now? That’s the problem I have with it?

Did DH not get enough press? Is she trying to get it back into the media? It just seems quite odd timing to me, being in USA, that so long after the last book comes out such a HUGE point is given to us.”

It’s possible that she was asked a question on the topic. Very possible. And I would say the timing is to be expected, seeing as this is when she’s doing these huge readings. When else would it have come out?

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The reactions in these comments are really sad. A huge chunk of what the Harry Potter books are about is accepting people for who they are. Here are a bunch of Harry Potter fans doing exactly the opposite.

So many people asked if the Hogwarts teachers had sposes, etc. Would there be a problem if she had said Dumbledore loved a woman? I imagine you all would be interested in that information.

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Well that is very true. gay people will have heterosexual relationships, so what is to say that children who see such idolized figures as being gay won’t think that is a completely accepatable way of displaing their sexuality. straight children could have gay relations just for attention. i think many bisexual people choose homogeneous relationships just for the attention anyway

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THat’s hilarious about the Hermione and Harry thing. I think I would pull my hair out if I dated someone like Ron, so I still don’t know what brought Mr. Immature aka Ron Weasley and Ms. Know it all aka Hermione Granger together. I still don’t get it. Definitely proof that opposites attract. I bet the h/hr shippers were shivering with excitement when the horcrux harry and hermione kissed.

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For the people who thought this was unnecessary information, Jo said Dumbledore was gay because she was ASKED about his love life. What was she supposed to do, lie to the audience? This wasn’t something she just decided to randomly blurt out, it was a question-and-answer session.

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“The real shame of all this is the furor over OMG!! Dumbledore is TEH GAY!! is overshadowing the real details she finally got around to dealing with.”

That’s because people like you and Tom are making it.

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Tom – First of all, did we ever see any signs that Dumbledore was straight? No – so it’s hardly fair to say that she didn’t give us enough signs – it just didn’t seem relevant enough to bring up in the books. As to why she’s revealing this now, don’t forget that us fanatic-types always love more backstory. You’re not complaining that she gave us other details. And besides, this actually adds to the story, since it sheds light on the friendship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald.

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Guys, what is wrong with you? How can you believe that this is a publicity ploy? How could you believe such a thing of Jo? She has never been like that, everything we have ever seen of her has shown a sweet, down to earth woman. Besides, she doesn’t need a spike in book sales. She is immeasurably rich already.

This isn’t something she decided after she’d finished the books. She had always thought of Dumbledore as gay. And it toally makes sense to me. This explains why he never had any other love, Gellert Grindelwald was his eternal love, but it was a bittersweet love, because they couldn’t be together in the end. It also adds another dimension to why Dumbledore was so hesitant to duel Grindelwald.

For people saying that they will now have to explain gay sex to kids: Nobody explains straight sex to prepubescent children either. People just say “mummy and daddy love each other”, don’t they? It’s the same for a gay couple. Two girls or two guys love each other. Kids will understand just fine if you leave it at that, and they will learn more when they are mature enough to understand it. Seriously people, GROW UP.

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Kat, you’re right. I’m just saying I disagree with you, but I seriously don’t think Dumbledore is Gay. I’ve read more of the interveiw that JKR did in new york and she was joking alot. She said that in response to a question that someone asked, so until I hear the question I’m going to assume that she was joking. A little 8 year old girl asked her what Aberforth did to that goat and JKR said that because the little girl was so young that she would just say that the goats were really clean and had curly horns. LMAO. She’s hilarious!

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Celia – if it helps, the question was, “Did Dumbledore love anybody?”

MattyJ – you are my new hero =)

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Hagrid must be gay as Hagrid was also single…but wait! he couldn’t have been because he wasn’t refined, cultured, or mannered, as apparently only gay man can be according to heterophobes. Following that logic, he only liked the giantess as a way to cover and hide in the closet.

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Dumbledore was gay? Oh… my… God…

Didn’t see that coming… Just make him about 1000000 times cooler in my book.

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Well, I’ve never seen someone proclaiming to be straight have a homosexual relationship. I’ve never seen someone PROCLAIMING to be homosexual have a heterosexual relationship. Again, it is not for “attention”: It is to HIDE it. I think it’s more common than not that once a homosexual has been outed, the heterosexual relationships stop.

And yes: Homosexuality IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE.

But I really have to wonder what “displaying” is going on… as DD’s sexual orientation is NEVER a plot point in the series.

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As if? Is this for real?

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I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to offend. I just meant Dumbledore was shown to be overall religiously moral, and this particular information about him is not accepted in many religions.

Okay, so kids aren’t going to turn gay by reading this, but it is exposing this reality in a positive light, which a lot of parents will not like for their kids to be exposed to.

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Hi all, I dunno why you’re all making this such a big deal, so Dumbledore was gay, so what? You should remember him how you loved him, how he was in the books. Don’t let what you think be tainted because that’ll just ruin everything for you. I personally am not against him being gay, though I was shocked…but after thinking on it I suppose something were slight hints. Though all in all I think it matters not, and we should all remember Dumbledore how we want to, whether that be as Dumbledore from the books, the heroic great leader troubled by his past life. Or with this extra fact. Don’t make it a big thing, I still love him for who he was.

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I can’t believe DD was gay. I didn’t see that coming! Who would have thought of it? Wonders never cease to amaze in this day and age.

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Is this a joke? It seems like it has to be. It almost looks like when someone changes a Wikipedia article. Maybe JK said this in jest? It just seems really far out there. Maybe she can address it on her web site.

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Aghhh – why do you assume Dumbledore is religiously moral? He has a strong sense of morality, but it isn’t neccessarily based on religion. He is an incredibly strong believer in the golden rule, and above all he never hurts anyone else, and certainly never kills. Obviously this is similar to the morals encouraged by many different religions, but that doesn’t mean that Dumbledore himself is religious.

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I can’t believe DD was gay. I didn’t see that coming! Who would have thought of it? Wonders never cease to amaze in this day and age.

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“And yes: Homosexuality IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE.”

it might be to you, but alot of people believe it to be sinful, and wrong, and they have every right to believe that, and it does not make them bigot. tolerated people, and excepting their values are two different things.

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I was more surprised at the idea of Neville and Hannah than I was about DD being gay. Some of you are acting like there should have been a “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy for this book tour. All I can say is that I’ve had two very wonderful mentors in my life. Great people- very smart, very compassionate. Oh and by they way… they were each also gay. I’m straight. No big. Get over it folks.

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Oh please. It’s been 3 months. She’s had countless interviews on numerous sites, stations and countries. Not to mention her own website. Why now? Why bother?

This isn’t a minor detail, this is big. To me this would be like finding out that McGonagall had a husband all this time (or wife lol) and not knowing all along.

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re: “then she did a horrible job because nobody could pick up on it.”

Were you reading the same book I was? Cuz I TOTALLY picked up on it. Re-read DD’s letter to Grindelwald. It’s pretty damn obvious. So just because YOU couldn’t pick up on it, doesn’t mean the rest of us are that thick.

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i love the fact that she DIDN’T make a big annoucment about DD’s orientation, she just said it off handedly like it was no big deal and just another small detail that wasn’t vital to the plot. why? BECAUSE IT’S NOT A BIG DEAL.

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This is truly a glorious day for all the slash fans. :D

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Personally, I don’t think Dumbledore’s sexuality is very important to the series regardless if he was gay, straight, or asexual. A person’s sexual identity is part of who they are, not what they are.

It’s not a big deal.

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I just don’t see how everyone always has to compare religion to books (and not just the HP ones). I’m not saying talking about resurrection themes and that kinda thing is a bad thing, but when in the series do Harry and co. go to Sunday mass?? I mean, honestly. lol

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Well, I’m delighted and I must say not so surprised. Why else would JKR have gone on so much about how handsome Grindelwald was in his youth? I think it adds immeasurably to our understanding of Dumbledore and all the things he had to give up in order to fulfill his mission, including having much of a love life. I mean, we’re not actually told that he never had another relationship post-Gellert; but there’s now a certain bittersweet symmetry between his narrative arc and Snape’s.

My kudos to JKR for putting a throughly human face on an all-too-often demonized segment of humanity. I wouldn’t worry too much about the fundies being shocked by this new revelation; they don’t like the series anyway because they think it promotes Wicca (as if there were an iota of Wiccan theology in it! Hah!)

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But what’s the point of announcing now that Dumbledore is (or was, you know, what with his being dead and all) gay? Did JKR even THINK about giving Dumbledore a sexual orientation when she was writing the books? If so, why bother to reveal it now? I, too, always thought Dumbledore was asexual, and that his friendship with Grindelwald was exactly just that, friendship. I bet JKR went over to FandomWank and read the scandal about HP fans complaining about the lack of gay characters in her books, then decided to be politically correct and make Dumbledore gay. And if I am right (which I sadly think I am, because I see no other reason for this VERY late announcement), then it’s a cheap move on her part, because she did it only to get more publicity, and not because she particularly cares about promoting gay rights or fighting against discrimination.

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“Oh please. It’s been 3 months. She’s had countless interviews on numerous sites, stations and countries. Not to mention her own website. Why now? Why bother?”

because she wasn’t asked about it then but was asked about it now.

and 3 months isn’t even a very long time. i mean she’s doing her book tour now. this isn’t 5 years down the road or anything.

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It is kind of hard to believe, after reading the letter and seeing the types of discussion Dumbledore had with Grindelwald, that their realationship was romantic…

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I totally agree with – Laura on October 19, 2007 @ 11:45 PM.

You guys should all go read ‘the black magician trilogy’ and broaden your minds. <3 Oh and also, why shouldn’t JKR have announced it? Someone asked a question…and she has no need to be secretive now.

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I know it’s been 3 months, but obviously JKR has a lot more backstory than she can reveal all at once – after all, she has huge filing cabinets full of this information, right? So she gives out little pieces at a time. And right now, since she’s on this tour, is a particularly good time to be revealing some of these pieces. You might also consider that someone specifically asked her, “Did Dumbledore love anybody?” – she didn’t decide before hand what information she was going to reveal – she just answered people’s questions.

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I always thought of DD as asexual. He just seemed above the human desires to me.

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I can’t believe the horrible comments.. and I thought HP fans were open minded.. silly silly me. And for those of you who refuse to believe that DD is gay.. well he is because JK said so. And I can’t believe some of you think it was a publicity stunt, do you think that little of the author of the books you claim to love. And as for the comments about the books being ruined, then you were never a true HP fan to begin with. This information changes nothing about my opinion of DD, I think I like him even more!

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Squee that Neville and Hannah end up together – that was my prediction after finishing DH!! Thanks Jo!! Although somehow I don’t see Hannah as the Leaky Cauldron’s landlady – maybe more of a head chef for the dining room at the Leaky Cauldron – Neville can grow magical herbs and spices that helps Hannah become a sweet-tempered, magical Gordon Ramsey. :)

Why didn’t James and Lily leave some money to Lupin in their will if they were providing for him while alive? They should have.

Lol that there are those of you who couldn’t guess that DD was gay! JKR gave a couple of fun clues in the series – including his excellent sense of style (“flamboyantly cut suit of plum velvet” HBP, “The Secret Riddle”). Add that to the fact that he is kind, intelligent, and able to get along with people from all walks of life without being judgmental and he definitely sounds like some of my male friends who are gay.

Those of you who now think it is a bad idea for Dumbledore to have been so close to Harry, or alone in a room with Harry, etc., really need to take your small minds out of your small little worlds and interact with the rest of the planet. Dumbledore loved Harry like a grandson and would have made an excellent father and grandfather. I think it’s sad that he never met anyone else after Grindewald, but not half as sad as some of your reactions.

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RE: “The reactions in these comments are really sad. A huge chunk of what the Harry Potter books are about is accepting people for who they are. Here are a bunch of Harry Potter fans doing exactly the opposite.”

Two-headed boy, you are made of win! Thank you for your level-headed and beautifully insightful comment. I wish more people were like you.

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Inz – your comment leads to an interesting question: what was the relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald? Did Grindelwald love him back? If Dumbledore never revealed his feelings, there wouldn’t have been any reference to them in the letter or anywhere else that history preserved.

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Honestly we didn’t get a clue that Dumbledore was anything. As far as I was concerned, he was like asexual or something along the lines of a priest (and not those nasty pedophile priests you hear about on the news, I mean the normal ones) That’s why it’s such a shock to find out that he was gay. I mean, I would be equally shocked to find out that he had a wife and kids simply because we had no clue and there was no evidence to support that. That’s what I am upset about and what I think a lot of other people here are shocked about. Of course, I will not deny that some people here really are just prejudiced, which is sad.

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Dumbledore, Hagrid, McGonagal were all single and all gay…the new name for Hogwarts is “Hogwarts School for Withcraft and Buggery”

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I love this and i’m so happy everyone here is so open minded!

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I do like that fact that people are complaining this is too much information, when before people were complaining about not learning enough information from the other question sessions! And, again, it was a question that she was asked, she didn’t just decide to say it! I would have thought it was better than her lying…

Personally, it was a bit of a shock when I saw the headline, but it’s not a bad shock. I always thought there was something a little different in the way that letter to Grindelwald was written as compared to other letters we have seen Dumbledore write, such as to Harry – I think that was it. Also explains why Dumbledore hesitated before fighting him too.

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I’m tired of everyone who has commented about not thinking of him “sexually” or being asexual etc. I’m tired of hearing “I’m not homophobic but…”

Jo was asked a question about love. She answered a question about love. Him being in love/blinded by love is a big part of why (in the story) he would have trusted Grindelvald more then he should have.

Homosexuality isn’t about a persons crazy “lifestyle” and to many of us (gay people) its way more about being allowed to say you are in LOVE than about sex.

So if you don’t want to picture him “that way”, you don’t have to – but understand that Jo intended for him to be a person who fell in love and that is part of his (and the overall) story.

You have to respect that people. And you have to respect Jo for being brave enough to tell us (and thinking we would be respectful and mature enough to handle it). It all comes down to tolerance and even KNOWING she was going to be hated for it, she told us anyway.

I was there and it was a great moment.

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In defense of Ron Weasley – yes, Jo did grow up and marry her “Harry Potter” after dating many immature Ron Weasley types. But I think it’s telling that she doesn’t let Hermione get together with Ron until the very last book. It’s as if she’s correcting the mistakes she made in her own life. She refused to let her fall into that trap until Ron did some serious growing up and maturing—“we don’t want anymore Dobbys.” So, no, Hermione doesn’t divorce Ron for all you Hr/H shippers, because unlike in Jo’s life, she found one who finally did grow up!

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Ya I pretty much thought of him along the lines of a priest too so him being gay just doesn’t click for me. And like was said not a priest in the sense that priest are sometmes thought of now. Maybe a munk. lol

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Albus bent? whwhwhwaaawwwhhhaa!!!! what a joke. Jo! you are reading too much fanfiction!

I already thought it suspicious that Grindelwald was described as a handsome rogue.

But on the whole Rowling does not break much with tradition. Dumbledore is more or less an adaptation of the Merlin character and he also has the air of asexuality/homosexuality over him.

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Then again, I always thought McGonagal was attractive and as I am gay, it would be nice for JK to have written in a scene with her and Mrs. Weasly

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Oh, and I’m with the people who just didn’t think about Dumbledore being romantically linked with anyone, hence my shock. I agree with whoever it was above that I would have been surprised if they said he had a wife as well.

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I know it’s been 3 months, but obviously JKR has a lot more backstory than she can reveal all at once – after all, she has huge filing cabinets full of this information, right? So she gives out little pieces at a time. And right now, since she’s on this tour, is a particularly good time to be revealing some of these pieces. You might also consider that someone specifically asked her, “Did Dumbledore love anybody?” – she didn’t decide before hand what information she was going to reveal – she just answered people’s questions.

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These were preselected questions. That is why most of them are boring, and softballs. I would have believed what you say if the questions weren’t selected ahead of time, but randomly picked someone to ask questions.

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I so cannot wait to see how this affects Potter Puppet Pals!

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Not against people, but I’ve lost a lot of interest in reading any fan fic w/ Grindelwald as a result.

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I so cannot wait to see how this affects Potter Puppet Pals!

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HANNAH ABBOTT?! Since when Neville shown any partiality to her? He needs to many somone as kick-a** as himself! (so speaks a stubbornly supporting Neville-Luna shipper, ;) )

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Luna – thanks, I didn’t know that. I guess my question would be, who selects them? Does Jo herself do this to decide which ones she most wants to answer, or does someone else go through them to make sure that there are no stupid or inapropriate questions or repeats? I’m sure a very large number of questions were submitted – surely Jo doesn’t have time to go through them all. But it’s possible she was given a short list of questions to choose from. I don’t think that means she was waiting to make the announcement, though – she would still have been somewhat restricted to answering questions submitted by the audience, so she couldn’t very well have decided a long time beforehand that now would be the perfect time to make this announcement.

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Gee whiz. All the negative responses here show that she was right to keep this information to herself until everyone finished the last book. Maybe she would have revealed this earlier if the world wasn’t full of closed-mindedness.

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To Naria: Agreed! Neville does need someone as much as a BAMF as he is….but could anyone really match up to the greatness of Neville Longbottom?

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Personally, I liked to read more about potential Harry/Ron and Hermione/Ginny hookups following a drunken quidditch party in Wizzarding College.

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To the people who said it changes their view of Dumbledore and it should have been left to the imagination because there was no evidence he is a homosexual, please remember that there was absolutely NO evidence that he was heterosexual, either. You just assumed he was of your own accord.

Given the fact that DD’s sexuality was not even hinted at in any of the 7 books, saying that DD is gay is no more of a revelation that JK telling audiences he was straight. He was never portrayed as straight. He was never supposed to be straight. You all just assumed his sexuality based on what gender YOU would prefer him to be attracted to.

Understand what I’m saying? Not knowing DD’s sexuality, would you have been angered or sad if JK had said he was straight to the press? No. And yet, there was no evidence to suggest he was straight. The chances of him being gay and being straight were equal.

So if you react negatively to the revelation of his sexuality, it’s based on your own homophobia. Not cannon, not evidence, not a change in his character. That didn’t happen. You assumed, and your assumption about her character proved to be incorrect. Deal with it.

And to everyone saying it’s a bad role model to children?

No. This teaches children that homosexuals are valuable members of society and can be good, just, strong individuals. It also shows that it’s very common for someone to be homosexual, and not flaunt it. DD was the best mentor the children of Hogwarts could have asked for, and his sexuality was the same through the whole books. Just because you now KNOW about it changes nothing.

He teaches kids it’s ok to be gay? Well, I should hope so.

And it isn’t going to turn kids into homosexuals. You are born with your sexuality. There have been extensive studies proving this, and it hasn’t been considered a mental illness since the 70s. Get with the times.

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smn: Dude, I would have finished the book. What’s more, I think that any serious Harry Potter fan would have finished the book too. I think most of the shock is that it seems out of character for Dumbledore to have been gay….of course, there are people who are bigots, but there the majority I think are in shock.

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I am shocked that out of 7 pages of comments, there is hardly one post about Neville and Hannah Abbott. About Dumbledore, I mean, how many others people wear flowerly bonnets on Christmas Eve? It’s not that big of a deal, folks.

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“When asked did Hagrid ever find love, the audience sighed and Jo responded that she should probably change her answer but that, no, he never did.”

Sorry, but what happened to Madame Maxime !!!!?? Did JKR forget her or something?

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On the other hand…I am a militant heterophobe…so take what I say with a grain of salt.

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I absolutely love this! I love that Dumbledore is gay- i did wonder a little during the last book, but in the second book, when they bring in that kid with the camera petrefied, I thought Dumbledore and McGonigle were carrying on with each other waggles eyebrows, so that idea is shot. I also love that Hannah Abbott ends up being with Neville- they are so perfect for each other. I hadn’t coupled Neville with anybody (people coupling Neville and Ginny- i just couldn’t relate to it). And yes, i gotta love and laugh with those who have Hermione running off with Harry …heeheehee!

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No…Madame Maxime was just a cover because Hagrid was gay too.

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What? I’m straight.

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re: pre-selected questions.

I was there, and she hesistated a moment before answering the question. She had kind of strange look in her eye when she answered the girl and said “I’m going to be honest with you…”

I don’t think she intended to make the announcement. It looked, from where I was sitting (which was very close), that she might have been making her mind up in the moment… like she was considering the fallout and she just decided to do it anyway. I mean, that is just my opinion, based on what I saw and heard (not what I read in news headlines afterwards).

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Ok I have nothing against gays, in fact I have some friends who are gay.

But wth? This is so random! CHanges how I see him. Plus there are tons who don’t read interviews, and they don’t know he’s gay! She should’ve written this in the books. This is just wrong and stupid.

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I LOVED THIS SO MUCH I CRIED!! OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD!! I’M SO HAPPY!!!

I love you Dumbledore, and I’ve been thinking Dumbledore/Grindelwald ever since boook seven!

I’m sorry I’m e-yelling, but this is TOOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!!

I KNEW there was a reason why he wasn’t married! EEEEHH!

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Now Danny…don’t deny what we all know to be true…you can come out of the closet now

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Cheers, Danny! I salute you. :)

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Bonnie: Well, I think it was pretty much a well timed publicity stunt. A neat one, but still, it was revealed when people were just starting to lose interest in the books. Good timing and probably not accidental on her part.

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JKR is officially God. Speaking publically about Dumbledore and gayness is a risk. She survived. JKR/God, I love you.

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Bonnie – thanks for the clarification. I am horribly jealous, mind you. =P

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A lot of religious people didn’t like the fact that there was magic in the books and didn’t want their children (or anyone elses for that matter) reading them.

Regarding other posts, if we don’t want our children exposed to homosexuality, might as well duct tape them to their furniture with no TV and no radio. For goodness sake don’t allow them on a crowded sidewalk where they might rub elbows with one of those sneaky gay people that look and act just like anyone else. The last thing we’d want is for our children to find out that homosexuals ARE just like everyone else.

I guess I should have, but I really didn’t expect I’d be seeing this kind of bigotry here. Amazing how something like this can bring out the hidden Laura Mallory in so many people.

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I definitely would have finished the book too. I don’t understand why shock automatically means people are bigots. Sheesh, can’t people even react without being put on the defense. Nobody would be accusing people of anything if we were shocked to find out Hagrid was hiding a wife, or McGonagal had kids. Does it change the books for me? Of course not. But I’m still surprised.

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I still wish she had written in a scene with McGonagal and Mrs. Weasley…I always felt an attraction for her.

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ok…slowly moving away from the fact dumbledore is gay…isn’t it nice that hannah and neville got married? they both lost their families to voldemort, but gained each other!

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There are two Bonnies’ posting. Just want to point that out, since I’m the one seriously discussing what happened tonight and not commenting on how other characters and other posters are gay too.

Just wanted to mention it, because thats kind of obnoxious and I don’t want the seriousness of my other posts to be invalidated.

And I don’t at all agree that it was a publicity stunt. I have tremendous respect for her and believe her to be very humble, and honest and true, in the moment. I have no reason to believe otherwise.

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It’s just a troll, Bonnie. They’re posting under my name too. Bound to happen.

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WEEE GAY DUMBLEDORE! :D That is awesome I thought he would’ve been in love with nothing… crazy! GO DUMBLEDORE finally some gay canon! WEEEE! FANFIC’S AHOY!

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To Dumbledore’s Gay?!: She hasn’t survived yet. It’s been like three hours. I think she probably will survive, but mainstream evening news has not come on yet!

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I always thought Neville would marry the equilavent of a wizard supermodel. I can always pretend he dated one for awhile before settling down. =)

Once again, I just think the Dumbledore thing will be blown way out of proportion. Yes she said it casually in front of an audience, but it was a New York audience. Tomorrow, every major news outlet and blog will mention this. I expect Ann Coulter will bash it on Fox News. Some people might even suggest Albus is a gay icon now, which is like saying Harry is an icon for teen abstinence. And the sad thing is, it doesn’t affect the plot at all. It doesn’t change how Dumbledore handled situations (he still defeated Grindewald despite it), or how he treated harry.

This is such a minor detail. It was a much bigger deal to find out he was a power hungry, prejudiced teen. Not to mention he used Harry, as well as lived vicariously through him.

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Rachel: I think people WOULD have a problem with Hagrid having a wife, seeing as how he dated, or at least blatantly crushed on Madame Maxime! Honestly, I’ve got a bigger problem with Hagrid cheating than Dumbledore being gay…and I think Jo does too :)

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Thanks Danny…I’m trying to be serious here but that just shows what today’s closed minded society is coming to. Perhaps if JK had written in a scene with Prof. McGonagal and the Parvati twins, we would have a little more understanding of the GLBITG lifestyle

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won won what if Hagrid had married Maxine and we never knew till now? You are clearly missing my point.

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For everyone complaining that Neville and Hannah never interacted: Obviously they talked, as they wound up marrying. Not everyone starts dating the person they will marry while they’re in school, you know. My own parents went to school together, knew each other only casually, then started dating ten years later.

Also, I’m glad that Neville didn’t go for a supermodel, or someone ‘cool enough’ to be with him. It just shows how wonderful and down-to-earth he his. Besides, we don’t know, Neville changed quite a bit, maybe Hannah did as well. She does run a pub now, after all.

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I am also of the opinion that this is a joke, though it’s going to be tough for her to explain this one away without opening herself up to criticism from some people. It’s too bad, it was really a tasteless and foolish comment to make.

Let’s turn this around for a minute. Let’s pretend that Dumbledore was a woman. Or that the Harry character was female, and Dumbledore was a straight man. How would all of the private meetings between headmaster and student have been perceived if the two having those meetings we of opposite genders and presumably both heterosexual. Not a very wise thing for a headmaster to do, meet privately with a student of the opposite gender. The same would hold true of a gay headmaster meeting with a young male student, despite the age difference.

I agree with those who say this is going to make it very much harder for Christians to approve of this book. Maybe that’s why she did this, to slap us in the face for how we’ve treated her so far. But I have to say, it much more like something Malfoy would have done, not very Gryffindor-ish at all.

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Also, quite honestly… when people are saying “why does it matter? we didn’t need to know this”. I think it is relevant to the story – but even if it wasn’t – I will tell you why it matters. It matters because gay teenagers still get kicked out of their homes for coming out or sent to ex-gay camps and “treatment” programs like criminals. It matters because gay teens feel alone and like everyone would hate them or disown them if people find out and living in shame. I can tell you, that as a teenager for me, knowing I was gay was terrifying. and I would like to say that when people found out it was ok, but its not true. I lost one of my best friends and several others. My mother (who is Christian) didn’t speak to me for like 6 months after I told her.

This is a BIG deal. Because somewhere right now, some teenage potterfan who feels ALL alone and ashamed will think about how their favorite book has a strong, wise, loving and brave gay character and that JK Rowling has enough respect for gay people to say it so simply – He’s gay and he loved someone of the same-sex. And that would have been such a comfort to me when I was a teenager. And it will be a comfort to many many people who don’t see reflections of themselves in any movies, books, stories, music etc. Someone will be able to say – oh… so Gay doesn’t equal bad and sinful, at least NOT in the Harry Potter books.

I’m incredibly grateful for this.

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Wait…DD is gay? Neville married who? What happened to Luna? Perhaps she hooked up with one of the Parvati twins and now march during wizard gay pride events…

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Thanks Danny. I hate trolls.

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take THAT michael gambon, take THAT!! oooh geez i wonder what that means for his portrayal in the next two movies, lol.

ooooh man I am so excited right now, what wonderful news!

(also, Neville/Hannah is kind of adorable. just sayin’. and now we know what James and Lily did other than fight- nothing. lol)

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Someone said that JKR revealed this info about Dumbledore as “Publicity stunt during a cooling period.”

Why in the world would Rowling need publicity??!!! She is one of the greatest authors of all time, and she always will be. Even if she never writes another book, she’ll still go down in history as a celebrated author. Nothing she does could ever make her more well-known, or well-liked, as the HP books have.

I LOVE the fact that she’s still giving us tidbits even though the series is finished. I hope she reveals more secrets, and eventually gets around to that HP encylopedia! Who cares if Dumbledore is gay? He was the greatest wizard in the world, and he saved the wizarding world by keeping Harry alive and telling him how to defeat Voldemort.

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Okay, what is Jo doing? Honestly this is just so not needed.

I don’t want to be judgemental to anyone else’s beliefs about what is right or not but my belief is that homosexuality just isn’t right.

Now what Jo believes is fine…but there’s no reason to throw this into the books as some ridiculous afterthought. If she wants to make a political statment about gay rights she should just do it. Why do this to a children’s book? So many kids are going to have their parents flipping out now. I myself am flipping out because I don’t feel like I can ever read the books the same again – this just changes it and it cheapens everything she’s done and every good moral standards she’s supported.

I’ve always fought tooth and nail for Harry and got in anyones face who claimed that HP taught any improper or evil morals…well now I think it does and my whole opinion of the series feels tainted.

Right now I’m just in shock as this truly came out of nowhere…I’m sure when I get over the initial shock I’ll be able to just not care and move along…but honestly, this was just so unnecessary.

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Mrs. Lovegood – the crucial thing is that we know exactly what went on in those meetings. We know that there was nothing in any way sexual going on.

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Crookshanks, why did his sexually need to be revealed in the book? Was it essential to the plot? Besides, how do you include it? Did you want Dumbledore to drop the bomb in the King’s Cross chapter: “Oh Harry, i know you just sacraficed your life for the good of the wizarding world, but I thought you should know that I had a crush on Grindewald.” It would be a random fact that doesn’t fit. Look at all of the romances in HP. Every one of them, especially those of the adults, were important to the plot (ie. Snape and Lily).

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Dumbledore…gay? Interesting. I don’t really care. Haha. I never thought about any of the teachers in a relationship/shipping sense. They were just teachers/friends/etc, so this doesn’t excite me or dissapoint me. But…Dumbledore has never really had any sexual vibe. God, that sounds absurd – but he’s always been basically asexual.

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I work in a bookstore, and I’m telling this to everybody who comes in tomorrow. Best. News. Ever!

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That is so AWESOME!!! YAY FOR DUMBLEDORE!!

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Amanda -apparently you were so busy fighting tooth and nail about the morals and the ethics in the book that you missed what is most CRUCIAL and important MORAL and ETHICAL standard in the books = Tolerance and Acceptance. Jo said tonight that the biggest theme in the entire series was bigotry and how she is against all forms of it.

I’m glad you can never read the books the same, because maybe the next time around you will get this incredibly valuable lesson and take it to heart and ask yourself why it is you believe homosexuals can’t be moral and ethical people.

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mollywobble: yes it was important! How can we spread gay pride and heterophobia to the younger generations with out using such outlets as HP?

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Bonnie, that’s an excellent point. Dd was blinded by love and that’s part of the reason why he postponed dueling Grindewald – just like Merope was blinded by her love and reacted wrongly by manipulating TR Sr., Snape changed his allegiance because of his love for Lily, etc. It fits perfectly as a continuation of Jo’s theme of the power of love and how LV’s inability to love made him so completely evil and irredeemable.

Did Jo definitely say that Hagrid never finds love? I wanted him to marry Mme. Maxime! And get a proper wand that hadn’t been snapped in half. And get an honorary degree from Hogwarts. And get a public apology from the MoM for believing he had opened the CoS 50 years ago. :)

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Why do some people think that every person likes to molest children if they meet privately with people of the opposite gender or if they are gay the same gender? That doesn’t reflect badly on JKR at all. You look bad here.

I am a woman and I had a very close relationship with my Latin teacher in high school, who was a man. But we were just friends and he cared about my future and wanted me to suceed. I never, ever thought in my head “OMG is he going to molest me?”

Is it even in Dumbledore’s character to ever ever do something like that? Did you even think of that at all before you let your homophobia (which becomes more salient as you try to deny it) adulterate your image of him when it has no relevance on a soul as good as Albus’s? You guys must seriously misunderstand the books. You must have not read them at all actually.

P.S. Most pedaphiles identify themselves as straight men. I hope that changes your very limited perspectives.

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wow. well, i cant say im not surprised. its like there was never an inkling!!!!

the look on my face was priceless!!! dumbledore’s gay!!!

well, i never liked him anyway, so its not like his sexual preference really matters to me… all i have to say is that i was surprised to hear this!!! :D

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I actually didn’t care for the character of Dumbledore that much… but now my opinion of him just increased a thousand fold! Bravo Jo! It explains so much.

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Mrs. Lovegood, you’re confusing homosexuality with pedophilia.

Second, I’m a straight woman, and as a young person I was left alone with straight adult males all the time at school. I was never attacked or violated in anyway. You’re not thinking this through.

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Also Amanda, if you don’t like my militant heterophobia, well you are just a bigot and since I am a victimized minority, I can get away with saying anything!

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HELL YEAHHHH!

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I almost responded to Amanda, but I honestly couldn’t think of anything to say other than I find it hilarious that she started that entire hate speech with “Now I don’t want to be judgemental…” and then goes on to say that gays CANNOT under any circumstances be moral people, and their presence in literature “cheapens” the text.

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Qwen, Your avatar is SOOOO cool. just spent a few minute reading the interplay. Nice!

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I’m trying to find where Amanda said anything that was against heterosexuals and I honestly can’t find anything of the sort.

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Bonnie, not Amanda.

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ugh. Troll-”Bonnie”... I’m clearly not heterophobic. I’m not victimized. I didn’t say that. I said that JO herself tonight spoke out, literally about how being against bigotry of all kinds is what these books about. I was there. Other people who were also there can attest to it. She said that quite literally and not when she was talking about Dumbledore being gay, it was earlier.

I don’t see how this makes me biased against straight people or an oppression minority. I’m just a person. Who has compassion and isn’t ignorant enough to think that she cares about publicity stunts or that this somehow contradicts her own ethics.

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I don’t think this was a publicity stunt. I think she suddenly regretted saying that she married Harry Potter and this was her way of getting all the pro-Ginny fans off her back. Nice deflection. LOL!!!! :)

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I don’t think it really makes a person “ignorant” if they think she did it to gain publicity. I think she always had it in her mind that DD was gay, but in my personal opinion she timed it well and purposefully during a time when the HP fandom was at a low, and the hype had died down. That doesn’t make me ignorant and I think it’s an intelligent marketing move. You can have different opinions from people without insulting them. Just so you know.

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Funny. You can say about anything you want negativly about christians, or straight people, but the minute you say you don’t agree with homosexuality, the narcissistic, militant heterophobe says that the world MUST accept them and if you have any opinion that is different…why you are a closed minded bigot…but who is the mind-control nazi? Its the militant heterophobe!

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Where did someone post an anti-Christian or anti-straight remark? I really don’t see any.

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Go back to page one…there are at least 20 statements which say those very things. Do you want me to cut and paste them for you?

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Wow, almost half of these comments make me want to smash my face into the screen.

Being gay does not mean that you will come on to any other man or woman, or any younger person of the sex that you prefer who happens to be in the room. A male teacher will, most likely, not hit on a female student! The teacher being gay, with a male student in the room, will not make any difference. The bigotry, ignorance, and hatred displayed by some of these comments is simply beyond terrible.

(As a bisexual person [who is not, by the way, being greedy], I can assure you all that being attracted to the same sex does not ensure that you want to jump each person in the near vicinity has the same genitals as you. This might be shocking to some of you, but it is true.)

In real life, people vary. Oh my goodness, she gave a character a certain sexual preference! What a call for concern! Grow up.

From my perspective, the hints to this were very clear – but I suppose people see what they want to see, it being either me or you. However, Rowling has made canon clear, and I hope that one character’s sexual orientation has ‘not ruined the series’ for you, because that is the pinnacle of ignorance, immaturity and a simple disrespect.

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Was it really necessary to state that dumbledore is gay the whole series was wonderfull without the homosexuality thing and dumbledore was my favourite character with all the energy and stuff, but now it has to be changed ..Why did you do it JO, hp was better without it..

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Sally, no thanks. I didn’t read page one when I arrived, I just skipped to the last page and jumped into the discussion. I agree with you though, being anti-Christian or anti-straight is just as bigoted. Also, thanks for letting everyone know who the troll was, haha.

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Who is bashing straight people Sally?

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My first response: OH MY FREAKINGOSH! Is this for real?

While I, personally, don’t care about DD’s sexuality and never even thought about it. I don’t think it added anything to the story either. But I have no personal problem with it. Although the DD/G was a little unnecessary. As a Christian, I strongly disagree with the homosexual lifestyle. Why, no, not b/c I’m a bigot crazy religious lunatic. B/c in the Bible it is stated that we are not live in that lifestyle. It’s sin. This is what I and many people believe. (Please don’t say “ur bibles bullcrap and outdated and all that crap” b/c I want to be mature about this.) However, even though I don’t agree with that lifestyle, I’m not going to shun gays and lesbians b/c that’s not right and they’re people too. I’m not going to stop reading and loving HP. However, people who are strong conservatives and Christians who act out in ways that aren’t good or right are only hurting themselves and while I understand their actions, I can’t agree with everyone.

that being said: Hannah and Neville? never would have thought about it…frankly I thought Neville wasn’t going to be married.

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“I don’t want to be judgemental to anyone else’s beliefs about what is right or not but my belief is that homosexuality just isn’t right.”

Amanda: You don’t WANT to be judgmental, yet the very first statement you make is exactly that. As is every other sentence in your post.

I’m glad you can’t read the books the same way again, because by displaying such blatant intolerance, you’ve completely and utterly missed the whole point of them the first time around. Jo tried to put out a message of tolerance and acceptance of others who are different from you. Is that what you are referring to when you mention improper morals?

Seriously, with the crap you spout, you’re no different from the Death Eaters. A lot of them felt the same way about Muggleborns as you clearly do about homsexuals.

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Why does she have to ruin my image of Dumbledore and make him Machiavellian and gay? Nothing wrong with being gay of course but this is just soo unexpected. I think I remember Emma being asked about her favorite wizard and she said Dumbledore. is she regretting her choice now? lol

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Sally – 1. People choose to be christian and follow a religion and many people, including me, only have a problem with it when they want to impose their religion on to other people. 2. I don’t know any gay people who say anything negetive about straight people unless… they try to impose their standards of their lifestyle and who they love and choose to be with on anyone else. 3. Saying you “disagree” with homosexuality is like disagreeing with people being born with different colored skin or eyes or right or left handed. Its absurd and ignorant. It doesn’t make sense to hold that opinion. Thats why its bigoted, because its based on your stereotypes and ideas of who people of a gender are supposed to love, not who they really do love.

Its not funny. Its very very sad.

And also – Danny, you are right and I owe you an apology – that comment was directed at someone who had combined the “publicity stunt” idea with a bunch of hate, but I didn’t mean it towards the opinion and it was badly worded and unclear. I respect your opinion, even though I don’t agree.

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Eve: Men, gay or straight, think about sex on average 10 times per hour…so wouldn’t it be logical to assume that a man, gay or straight, would find certain situations as advantageous for sexual activity or pursuit. Just because a man is gay, doesn’t mean his morality or libido is any better than a sex-crazed straight guy…so yes, perhaps it could have happened.

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I like how everyone’s asking, “How was this necessary?” It…wasn’t. That’s WHY she didn’t put it in the books. Just added it in an interview. No one’s complaining that it wasn’t “necessary” to mention that Lily and James helped Remus out financially, or that Neville got married and lives above a pub, right? It’s a supplemental piece of information about a character that adds some depth to his backstory, and though it explains a bit about his motivation during certain points of, especially, the last book, it wasn’t PIVOTAL to the plot. Thus, it wasn’t put in the book, just as MANY things she’s mentioned in interview because she didn’t get the chance to put them in the actual text, and fans are hungry for extra information about the characters. Why else would anyone have read this article, if they considered anything that wasn’t put in the text necessary and therefore not worth knowing whatsoever?

But she had it in mind, just as she had the other . She wrote his character with this aspect of him included as part of his core characterization, just as him having trust issues and him trying to redeem himself for his past are both part of his characterization – it isn’t just some random whatever that JKR decided to throw out there as a bone to the gay community (though, wow, it is awesome in adding another layer of tolerance to HP, which is so globally known, so hopefully this will be a big step).

For the person who mentioned it was be inappropriate for Dumbledore and Harry to meet privately – does this mean McGonagall is never allowed to speak to Harry alone? When Dumbledore was still of unspecified sexuality, would the HP fanbase cry out in outrage if Dumbledore had taken Hermione aside to talk with her, or had a private conversation with Ginny concerning Voldemort’s possession of her (which was, largely, what Dumbledore and Harry would discuss – Voldemort). I suppose, as a girl, I can’t talk to any of my straight male teachers anymore, because clearly the only thing on their mind to lust after every student of the gender of their preference?

That makes a whole lot of sense. Really.

If I could talk to JKR right now, I’d say WAY TO GO for getting up the guts to share this piece of Dumbledore’s characterization, despite the risk of the backlash that is bound to equal the amount of support she’s getting.

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OI that was not intended about the my previous post.

SORRY!!!!!!

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I love that she said this. It just emphasizes the meaning of LOVE throughout the book. It doesn’t matter what type of love or who it’s with. He had to defeat the man he loved…my Gosh, that’s just heartbreaking…then again, it brings up other questions. Was he still in love with him when he defeated him? She said “originally”, so did he love later on? Was he always in love with Grindewald? Then again…if he was why was he so shocked when Snape revealed he still thought abou Lily? So many questions!!!!!

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No worries, Bonnie.

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I really am disappointed in JKR because of what she had done. Just because Dumbledore falls in love with Grindlewald when they were teens makes him gay for life? Why did he have to be gay just because of something of the past? Did that mean that he always loved Grindlewald? I would’ve accepted that it was a thing he went through, but to stamp him with the “gay” lable is ridiculous! Why did we have to know that anyway? I would’ve like that that would’ve been up to the fans to decide. Now it’s canon. Dumbledore was a major character I enjoyed, and now she springs this up—it changes things, how I see the series and character overall.

It’s okay to take risks and be the rebel-author, but you don’t just do that to people who have invested their lives to characters for years and years! It’s not being a biggot to get upset a little when the author changes things about a character you’ve grown to love. Had this been mentioned in the series, maybe that would’ve been acceptable. But Book 7 is over, in print. Dumbledore’s secret in the book was that he was friends with Grindlewald, dived in dark arts, and possibly accidentally killed his sister - not that he had a gay attraction to Grindlewald! If she wanted it known, then it should’ve been in the book for it to really be canon! Right now it just seems she’s saying things according to changes she’s made since the book was completed. And can we really trust things are definate? First she says Ron revolutionizes the Ministry’s Auror department, then she changes her story and says he works with George at WWW. Then she says Luna goes off venturing into her own journeys of discovering things - then Jo switches to saying she settles down and marries Newt’s grandson.

It’s just a bad mistake. A really bad mistake. What if Scholastic or Bloomsbury didn’t want to associate with that kind of publise?

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BROKEBACK POTTER ALERT

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NOTHING was changed about Dumbledore. It was NEVER said in the books he was straight. You just assumed he was.

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The scratched out parts aren’t meant to be scratched out.

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Why JKR? Why now? I do not look forward to the media reaction to this. Ugh! Just Remember Love will save us!

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Sue: Sure, but what’s your point?

I’m just saying that, based on the fact that Dumbledore has been revealed to be a homosexual, the fact that he spent time alone with Harry is suddenly ‘disgusting’ to a lot of people. I don’t mean to target you – but if he had been a heterosexual man and the fact that men do tend to think more about sex – would him spending time with Harry caused this much uproar? Hardly.

Also, the man’s over 100. And when he fell in love with GG, he was a young man… I’m failing to understand all the horror about this.

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“Just because Dumbledore falls in love with Grindlewald when they were teens makes him gay for life?”

He was able to be in love with Grindelwald because he was gay, he wasn’t gay because he was in love with Grindelwald.

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In the movie script? Which JK Rowling didn’t write?

That doesn’t make sense. The script was written incorrectly, and Rowling corrected it, to keep the films similar to the novels.

Just face is. JK said “I’ve ALWAYS pictured him as gay”. Seriously, nothing has changed. You might not like it, but DD is the same man he’s always been. If you let a little thing like what gender he is attracted to get you so worked up, you’ve missed the ENTIRE point of the HP series.

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Sorry, if JKR had “guts” she would have done this three-four books ago and faced the opposition BEFORE all of her amazing book and movie deals. She didn’t. This sits entirely the wrong way with me.

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In the movie script? Which JK Rowling didn’t write?

That doesn’t make sense. The script was written incorrectly, and Rowling corrected it, to keep the films similar to the novels.

Just face is. JK said “I’ve ALWAYS pictured him as gay”. Seriously, nothing has changed. You might not like it, but DD is the same man he’s always been. If you let a little thing like what gender he is attracted to get you so worked up, you’ve missed the ENTIRE point of the HP series.

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Bonnie…so your opinion is correct by intrinsic value? Science says some people are genetically pre-disposed to alcoholism, does that excuse their behavior when they are drunk and beat their spouse? Science says that most pedophiles were themselves abused as children, does that excuse their behavior? Science says that most murderers have brains which can be identified as abnormal in comparison to others, does that excuse their behavior? What about men who are “gay” but were previously married with children? If they find no attraction to women, how did they perform well enough in the marriage bed to have a child? Why, they CHOOSE to find a women attractive so, it may be a pre-disposition, just like alocoholism, pedophilia, or a murderous nature, but the STILL CHOOSE their behavior.

It doesn’t make them bad people, it just makes it a choice.

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LOL @ comparing consentual love between two adults with pedophilia and murder.

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This spur-of-the-moment post Deathly Hallows character information’s getting a little out of hand…

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I would also like to add that, in regards to Dumbledore and Harry’s time alone together, even Jo had Rita Skeeter hint at that in Book 7. So, excuse those who thing that…it at least was mentioned, be it by Rita Skeeter’s article, how it seemed unusual how Dumbledore spent a lot of time alone with Harry.

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I just wanted to say that I called this. Just so you know. There were icons and everything. I love you JK!

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Veta runs over from the LJ slash community I take it. =P

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“I don’t think this was a publicity stunt. I think she suddenly regretted saying that she married Harry Potter and this was her way of getting all the pro-Ginny fans off her back. Nice deflection. “

I agree. it sounded like JKR gave off the idea that she liked H/Hr better but this gay concept smashes that inconsistency to the ground and covered it up. I personally have nothing against gays but if she wanted to drive into dust the Dumbledore pedestal, she’ll be happy to know that she succeeded. My image of Dumbledore has now been damaged irreparably. My hero has more than a feet of clay, he has gay feet of clay. sob… lol

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Sally – the choice is whether or not to be open about it. The truth is that the LOVE will be there, no matter what you choose.

And loving someone else, is NEVER EVER EVER EVER anything like being an alcoholic and CHOOSING to buy more alcohol and not seek help or REHAB, or being mentally ill and not getting help or murder or beating anyone… its not violent and its not sick. Its LOVE.

and I’m sorry but pedophiles, most murderers and drug addicts and people beating someone DO have a choice to not engage in behavior… and knowingful HURTING other people that way does make them bad people…

Loving someone and being honest about it, does NOT.

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Hey Anita,

The bible also says:

“If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.” Deuteronomy 22:23-24

So, are you all for killing rape victims too?

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Sally: Why would people choose to be outcasts in a society which is, by majority, mostly intolerant?

The society shames us all.

The sad tale is that most gay men marry because they don’t want the society to find out they’re gay. And sex, being natural to our species, is pretty easy to perform – if you want the step by step analysis of it. :P

In any case, most people would not choose to be mocked or lynched just for their sexual preference.

This is an age-old argument, though.

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Eve: No I wouldn’t think that, because only a gay man would find harry attractive in that way…a straight man wouldn’t so that situation wouldn’t, by its very nature, cause suspicion. Its like a lesbian woman showering with men vs. showering with women. Is it fair for straight women to have to shower with a lesbian…sure, she might not find any of them attractive, but she’s much more likely to than if she was showering with men…so a straight women in that situation mind find it disturbing because the lesbian MAY be looking at her the same way a bunch of men would if she was showering with them

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That means you guys are thinking as negatively and horribly as Rita Skeeter. Hope you are happy with yourselves.

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Sue: Yeah, but still, what’s your point? That’s no excuse to be thinking that such a noble character as Dumbledore would be having pedophilic thoughts about his students.

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... [cont’d] no matter his sexual preference.

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Sally, let’s assume your correct, that homosexuals choose to sleep with whom they want. How does a man sleeping with another man (as long as there both consenting adults) affect your life or your family’s life in a negative way. It doesn’t affect society like murder or child abuse.

I like this anology. I like Chocolate ice cream. I don’t like vanilla ice cream. Was I born liking chocolate ice cream, or did I choose to like it more than vanilla. ANd why do you care what ice cream flavor i like? Does my ice cream preference affect you in any way?

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2. I don’t know any gay people who say anything negetive about straight people unless… they try to impose their standards of their lifestyle and who they love and choose to be with on anyone else. 3. Saying you “disagree” with homosexuality is like disagreeing with people being born with different colored skin or eyes or right or left handed. Its absurd and ignorant. It doesn’t make sense to hold that opinion. Thats why its bigoted, because its based on your stereotypes and ideas of who people of a gender are supposed to love, not who they really do love. bonnie

2. you are doing the same thing by trying to impose the idea of being gay is okay or exceptable, and if you don’t believe that you are a bigot. You want other poeple to accept that your lifesyle is something they should believe is okay. 3. comparing race and being gay is offensive. You can’t choice your race, it is clear, out there for everyone to see. There is no 100% prove that gayness is not a choice. There are studies that says otherwise, but is not positve thing like race. if believing that being gay is sin makes me a bigot, that is fine. I proud of that.

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“Sorry, if JKR had “guts” she would have done this three-four books ago and faced the opposition BEFORE all of her amazing book and movie deals. She didn’t. This sits entirely the wrong way with me.”

I agree. This was just uncalled for. It should’ve been done in the books, if she wanted to make a statement about gay rights and so forth.

Danny: “Just face is. JK said “I’ve ALWAYS pictured him as gay”. Seriously, nothing has changed. You might not like it, but DD is the same man he’s always been. If you let a little thing like what gender he is attracted to get you so worked up, you’ve missed the ENTIRE point of the HP series.”

How have we missed the entire series just because we’re upset Jo mentions this now, months after the book and series were completed? Just because she’s seen him as “gay” doesn’t mean all the fans did. If she thought his sexuality was an important factor in his character, then she should’ve included that in book 7, when she was revealing his past. His sexuality wasn’t discussed. All we saw was a friendship, not a love affair. And I really would’ve believed that Snape was gay before I would’ve Dumbledore! Mainly because Snape had all that tension towards James!

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Molly et al., it affects me when it keeps getting crammed down my throat that I have to accept your opinion or I’m a bigot. If it was all just live and let live I’d agree…but it isn’t. The whole point behind making DD gay wasn’t about enrichment of the story…it was about JK being part of the “in” crowd and yelling out “hey…look at me…I’m one of you, then in crowd, the cutting edge…hear me roar.” and getting brownie points for it.

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luna: Lifestyle? What? Suddenly sexual preference defines a ‘lifestyle’? I don’t look at my male professors or friends and think in my head that the fact that most of them have sex with women is what defines them. We’re kind of past that when looking at fellow human beings, don’t you think?

I’m not attacking you, I’m really not – but if by chance my children are born gay, it makes me be on the verge of tears to think that they would be treated by such a reception as yours, when sexual preference shouldn’t even be the business of strangers.

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Mollywobble – I like your analogy too. Thanks for that.

And also – to whoever quoted the bible or believes that it has anything to say about homosexuality, just think about this. In the ancient languages that the bible was written in and first translated into – there was no word for homosexuality. NONE. The relevant passages that people always quote about men lying with each other etc. have been proven by language scholars as completed embellished about 400 years after the bible was written, no question. This is a fact. Because the words to describe anything gay didn’t exist. Go do research on the history of the bible if you don’t believe me. Its 100% true. I first learned that from a theologian scholar (who is Jesuit, I might add… so he had no reason to lie, he believes in his religion. So the bible doesn’t comdemn it. It codemns only Sodomites, whom at the time really just referred to people from the city of Sodom. Who did a number of things that were wrong.

And… Jesus is quoted in the New Testament (several times) as saying that his gospel is the only one that matters – so what relevance is the Old Testament that came before his birth anyway… if you are really a Christian.

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Sue, I’m straight, and I played sports with several lesbians. We had to change in front of each other in the lockerroom. Not a big deal. Besides, If I see an attractive man without his shirt off, and i think, “Wow he is cute,” am I being inapropriate? Should I go up tp him and appologize for my bad thoughts just because he might not want me to think like that?

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“I wouldn’t think that, because only a gay man would find harry attractive in that way.”

No. No, he would not. Not any more than I, a straight woman, would find Harry - or any child - “attractive in that way.” Gay does not equal pedophile.

Gotta confess, my first thought upon reading this news was, “Swell, more ammo for the haters.” Otherwise, I see it as just one more facet to Dumbledore’s personality. It does seem a random thing for Jo to reveal, but it doesn’t bother me a bit that no hints were given in the books. We had no idea of, say, Snape’s orientation until book 7, did we?

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Well said, Bonnie!

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For the record, I was at the event, and to those of you who conjecture that Jo was joking—she most definitely was not. She was responding to a very earnest questioner who prefaced her question about Dumbledore’s love life with a touching soliloquy about what the books have meant in her life and her attempts to self-actualize. Jo said, “Because you’ve been so honest with me, I’m going to be honest with you. I actually always thought of Dumbledore as gay.” It was very touching, it was not a joke, it was an amazing moment, and I’m so glad to have been there to witness it.

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Eh…Bonnie…what biblical scholars, by name and reference, are you referring to? As some one who actually is a member of a biblical translation group…I’d check your sources. “lying” with is a euphomism from the 1600s that clearly does mean gay sex…and the word in original hebrew is the same word used for sex between men and women, and in other places prohibiting bestiality. One person’s opinion, even if he is a “theologian scholar” doesn’t make it “100% true”...

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“The whole point behind making DD gay wasn’t about enrichment of the story…it was about JK being part of the “in” crowd and yelling out “hey…look at me…I’m one of you, then in crowd, the cutting edge…hear me roar.” and getting brownie points for it.”

Sally: JKR is one of the biggest selling authors in history. I’d say that she was already “in” before she “outed” Dumbledore.

But nice try.

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molly: what if three men on the football team wanted to shower with you and your lesbian team mates…would they have been allowed…isn’t a straight man showering with a women the same as a lesbian showering with a woman…why is one ok and the other not? Are you suggesting gays and lesbians have higher morals? Why does it matter? Because this whole thing with DD being gay is just a stunt by JK to be political instead of an entertainer…

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Dumbledore was NOT gay. I think it’s just crap that she added as an afterthought. I don’t think he was written that way and I will not read it that way.

Boooooo Jo.
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Sorry Ana…its not about being a best selling author…its about making a “statement,” a “hey my opinion matters more because I’m famous” attitude similar to hollywood elites thinking their opinions matter more because they are famous…

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Sam – I’ve seen it in several places and sources. Academic texts. Panels. Discussions. I’m very interested in biblical history myself, I wasn’t just saying it to make a point. What I have seen in various sources was the “lying with men” in that bible quote had been altered to say it that way and was part of a larger statement that had to do with rules about bed and sleep (of which Jewish people have many… i.e. Men can’t lie with their wives if they are on their period in old Jewish text as well.) I don’t have the sources in front of me… but I heard this first in a panel discussion about biblical translation several years ago, that it was changed/edited when the Kings James Version was released along with TONS of other passages. I read the same thing in another book once. I don’t think it means its 100% true – all sources are fallible. But for people who take the King James version as 100% literal – its just not and thats been proved in many regards.

I just wanted to put out the idea that people should think of the many translations and versions of the bible as sources as well that also might be fallible. Unless you read ancient Aramaic or Hebrew and happen to have the word of God direct, handy… its a moot point to argue that “because the BIBLE says…” people should question this. Thats all. something to think about

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Em and everyone else who thinks this is just a publicity stunt: WORD! If she really cared about gay rights she would’ve made this statement far earlier, just like she has protested against the practice of caging children in, if I recall correctly, a country in Eastern Europe; and the numerous links on her page to websites such as the MS Society of Scotland, single parenting and so forth.

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YAY. I GUESSED THAT LOL XDDDD THAT’S WAY COOL~

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Sue: By your logic, straight women and gay men should shower together and lesbians and straight men should. But wait, that wouldn’t work cuz the straight women would be totally checking out the gay men, and the straight men would be oogling the lesbians.

Damn, I guess we’ll now have to have 4 separate shower facilities at every gym: Straight Women, Gay Women, Straight Men, Gay Men. Hmm… that’s gonna be tricky when trying to figure out what symbol to use over the doors.

Now that I’ve gotten my sarcasm out, your comparison of allowing straight men to shower with women being the same as allowing lesbians to shower with straight women is like comparing apples to oranges. (or more specifically penises to vaginas.)

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Bonnie…its much more likely that my interpretation is correct, bacause, as you note, traditional Hebrew society had many rules, and its prohibition against homosexuality is a clearly documented example. Now, whether a person chooses to agree or disagree with divine inspiration regarding holy writ, is an individual decision, but your example, in this case, is incorrect. The text reflects specific attitudes of the time, and people who believe in divine inspiration are logical in assuming that it is a prohibition which still exists, if that follows their belief patterns…it doesn’t make them bigots.

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I’m really disappointed by the news that Dumbledore was gay. I just I don’t think it is an appropriate topic for kids. I’m glad she didn’t put any clues in the books.

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“Sorry Ana…its not about being a best selling author…its about making a “statement,” a “hey my opinion matters more because I’m famous” attitude similar to hollywood elites thinking their opinions matter more because they are famous…”

because she doesn’t agree with your opinion she must just be doing it for attention or to be cool. believe that if you want.

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Sally, I appoligize for cramming things down your throat. I know I get upset when conservatives try to do the same to me. I know I won’t change your mind, but at least there is an open debate going on.

As for Jo joining the in-crowd, it’s possible that she said this knowing the positive and negative publicity it would recieve. You have to remember, we see the world through Harry’s eyes. Do we see anyone celebrating Hannakah in HP? No. Does that mean there are no Jewish wizards and witches? If Jo announced Neville was jewish, would she be pandering to the jewish fans begging for a strong jewish character in the books?

Maybe Dumbledore has always been gay in her mind, and just thought it be a good time to share.

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btw, I thought it was implicitly pictured on the book. very faint, but the hints are there.. how DD became so obsessed to work for greater good with him etc. all the blah and blah because of his sexuality? seriously? I can just puke at the hypocrity here.

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Isaiah 5:20: Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Woe unto you, my generation. You have called evil good, and good evil; You have put darkness for light, and light for darkness; you have put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter.

J.K. Rowling…what have you done? For so long I defended you against those who called your books evil because of their “witchcraft”—and then you go and prove that, in one way, they were right, but for a different reason.

Congratulations, J.K. Rowling. You’ve joined the crusade to help desensitize the world to accepting yet another form of sinfulness, and embracing it. Congratulations.

I never thought I’d contemplate burning my Harry Potter books.

I think I’ll just stick with the Bible from now on.

P.S. To those of you who are taking verses from the OLD TESTAMENT out of their CONTEXT in order to show how horrible God/Christianity is, you’re proving nothing but your own insecurity.

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Sally, “cutting edge”? About as cutting edge as the wheel. There have been homosexuals for millenia. Jo was not trying to be “cutting edge”. But thanks for the laugh.

Ryan – you are hysterical!! haha!

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No Sally, that’s just YOUR interpretation of it.

Just because you are ASSUMING to know JKR’s motivation behind revealing Dumbledore’s sexuality, doesn’t make it fact. Especially since you seem to keep changing your interpretation of it.

At first you said that Jo said it to be cool. I’m saying that she doesn’t need to say it to be cool. But now that I’ve pointed it out, you’re saying that by providing that information about Dumbledore, what she’s actually saying is that she’s more important than the rest of us.

Which is it? Is she trying to be cool, or does she have a superiority thing?

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Ana…I happen to agree with your sarcasm…it would take all of that…which is what makes the whole thing so crazy. BTW, my sister is a lesbian and she often tells me she is sexually stimulated at the gym while showering with women…how is that different than a man showering with women…they both lika da vagina.

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DD was gay? No wonder hetero Snape felt uncomfortable in his presence. Hahahahahaha.

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Actually Sam – its not a “clearly documented example”. The Council of Conservative Judaism recently voted on whether or not to approve gay marriages. And one thing that was up for discussion was that there wasn’t an ancient Hebrew precendence against it. That was a social implication that was understood in the way that homosexuals have always been mired in secret and shame, but technically NO… it was interpreted that way later on. Their ancient books (the foundation of the bible) didn’t say that. Many many people interpret it that way and they are entitled to their interpretations or in believing other peoples…. but yes, I do believe that using that as a crutch for your beliefs and speaking out about them is bigoted. Whether or not you live your life according to someone’s interpretation of a text is your business, but using that as a reason to believe that other human beings are less moral, ethical or deserve less rights than you, is in fact, bigotry.

In the times of the Civil Rights movement in America, many many Christians used bible passages against African American people too… funny how they aren’t clinging to those interpretations anymore.

I’m tired of bible talk. This is way off topic and I’m sure no one wants to hear us say “no my sources are better than your sources”. My point was that people should search their own hearts and minds and not use the bible to hold up their own prejudices. You missed the point. Back to Harry Potter now. (which is a VERY VERY anti-prejudice text).

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these bits of info seem kind of like silly afterthoughts…. I guess just cause they weren’t in the book. Anyway, didn’t really like/care about any of this. And WTF? Dumbledore? Why did we need to know that? Well, I didn’t need to know that anyway…

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Sue: I’m straight, but if I were in a shower with, say Charlize Theron, I think I’d be sexually stimulated too. So maybe we’re all doomed to be either the checker-outer or the checker-outee at some point if we’re naked in public of any kind. lol!

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Ana…in the end, my point is (go back and scroll through my posts) is that it wasn’t for the betterment of the story, just a way of pandering for coolness and more attention. P.S., not every body thinks people who stay up late into the night arguing with strangers about a work of fiction is “cool” so perhaps she was pandering to the media, politicians, thought leaders, etc. to be thought more of than just a kid’s book author…and what better way to do it but to “Will and Grace” HP?

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I’m extremely happy to learn that about Albus. In fact, I’m extremely happy she got the chance to tell us things which were left unsaid. It doesn’t make any difference to me, except that I love the books even more if that’s possible, it gives us another piece of the puzzle. I think it can explain very well why Albus was so reluctant to confront Grindelwald.

“his elicited a huge reaction and prolonged ovation.” AWESOME ! I wish I were there !

And I’m shocked at some of the reactions posted here. An actor’s job is to play a part, we don’t necesarrily have to choose an actor who’s gay to play a gay character. And I won’t even start on the blatant homophobia of some of the comments. This is just sad, Dumbledore hasn’t changed since DH, why on earth do you care ?

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Gay guy here, and it’s always nice when I’m gearing up to respond to the more moronic of the usual comments and find that a ton of other people have already done it for me. Win.

I was thinking about the ‘courage’ aspect of things. No doubt it would have been more risky and audacious to have her mention it directly in the books. But think of this other way of going about it. What does it show? It shows that a lot of people assumed that he was straight, and the heterosexism that that represents; it shows that a beloved character can be gay; it shows that gay men, for heaven’s sake, can be 100 years old and can spend time alone with their pubescent male students without jumping their bones.

The books are all written, the Dumbledore figurines are already on the shelves, and everyone, because of the way that fiction works, has their whole HP universe constructed in their heads. Now JKR gives us this new piece of information, and we have to realign our mental universes to take it in. What do we have to go through in order to do that? Why, in fact, do we have to go through anything, when this new information contradicts nothing in the books? That’s the question that comes up, and I can’t say I’m surprised that the usual suspects seem to be getting such a brain cramp over it.

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What I would’ve really liked to know is how James got over his gigantic ego and bigotry so completely that he managed to win Lily’s (and almost everyone’s) heart in the series. Seeing how we don’t get a single bloody clue in the series, I think THAT is an important cuestion.

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to those quoting the bible. the verse to which you are referring is in Leviticus, yes? well, according to Leviticus, it is also a sin to shave, have a vegitable garden, and by all technicalities, shrimp, tattoos, bunnies, and hamburger, as well as Polyester are EQUAL abominations unto the lord.

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What I would’ve really liked to know is how James got over his gigantic ego and bigotry so completely that he managed to win Lily’s (and almost everyone’s) heart in the series. Seeing how we don’t get a single bloody clue in the series, I think THAT is an important cuestion.

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Sue. The lesbians on my sports teams changed in front of me, and I in front of them, because that is what you do in a lockerroom. It has nothing to do with “wanting to change or shower with someone.” It’s just tradition to seperate men and women. Maybe one day lesbians and straight women will be seperated. But to me, it wasn’t a big deal.

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I hope JKR will do next another new theme. We not know yet. But she was very hard time for her concern about Harry Potter. I’m glad all pepole realize JKR answer their question.

I hope JKR will next a new book.

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Was JKR also trying to be “cool” when she told us who Neville married? Or what jobs the kids ended up with? Or Hagrid’s lack of a love-life? Because none of those things were ever stated in the books either. JKR can’t reveal anything about Dumbledore’s future since he’s already dead, so why is she not allowed to reveal stuff about his past without fans acting like she pissed in their cereal?

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Good job distorting the Bible, Travis.

Anyway, I can give you a verse that’s NOT in the Old Testament:

Romans 1:26-27: “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence [sic] of their error which was meet.”

“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)

—It’s refering to those who live those LIFESTYLES. You can still have homosexual tendencies without embracing the lifestyle and calling yourself one. You can still struggle with it, but hate the sin itself.

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To: “Um Yeah”....I totally agree with you.

It does feel like this statement was almost to use her influences as a woman of respect..by throwing in something so political…it really is irrelevant to the story.

People are not bigots and ignorant fools because they simply don’t want to live a certain way or expose their kids to certain things…why is it okay to be openminded with everything except people that are not open minded to everything?

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“my point is (go back and scroll through my posts) is that it wasn’t for the betterment of the story”

Sally: Again, that’s just your opinion. Not necessarily everyone else’s.

Personally, I think that by confirming that DD was gay (I say confirming, because I actually interpreted his relationship with Grindelwald as having some pretty strong gay undertones), JKR did in fact add to the story. Because now I am imagining how very difficult and heart-wrenching it must have been for DD to have to battle the person he loved. And then for that to be touted as one of his greatest achievements, must have been thoroughly heartbreaking. I loved the depth JKR gave Dumbledore in book 7, I thought it made him so much more interesting than he had been previous to me learning his background. This extra bit of information has just expanded on that even further, and has made me truly feel empathy for him.

So, I disagree when you say it was only to get media/politician/etc attention.

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ON BEHALF of the troll Bonnie, Danny, Billy, as well as Sue, Sally, and Sam…I thank you all for a very entertaining evening while I’m stuck in a hotel in St. Louis for a business meeting. It was quite fun…long live Harry, Ron/Neville ‘08, and go Dumbledore, regardless of your sexual preference…

Remember people…its just a work of fiction, albeit one I very much enjoyed reading…

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I just wanted to tell you, Sally, that you are made of fail and lose. And additionally I am suprised by the number of people who think this fictional character has any bearing on their actual lives. Grow up.

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I love Albus Dumbledore no matter what! Everyone who loved HP and Dumbledore, and now claims to never want to read the books has something wrong with them. He is still the same man he was before. How has this new information changed him? It hasn’t, and if you find yourself having a problem with this, then YOU are the real problem, and you need to work on yourself.

JK Rowling, I love you!

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I think some one asked her whether Dumbledore finds “true love.” So what was she to do stare at him and not respond?

But what did she mean by: “Oh, my god,” Rowling concluded with a laugh, “the fan fiction.”?

I thouught she was talking about the fan-fics she had read online.

I don’t see how it should change the way anyone sees Dumbledore. He is still going to be the same Albus Dumbledore. I have no problem with it either way shrugs

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I love Albus Dumbledore no matter what! Everyone who loved HP and Dumbledore, and now claims to never want to read the books has something wrong with them. He is still the same man he was before. How has this new information changed him? It hasn’t, and if you find yourself having a problem with this, then YOU are the real problem, and you need to work on yourself.

JK Rowling, I love you!

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“Wow”, you’re not helping.

Anyway, I’m done with the Harry Potter series for good. I think I’m just going to put the books/movies away…not worth my time to light a fire now.

And to answer someone’s question, the reason it’s not okay to be open minded to people who aren’t open minded to everything else is because if you’re brain isn’t falling out of the back of your head, you’re deemed morally (not sure how we’re supposed to judge morals when we’re open minded to everything that is in fact immoral, though) inept, ignorant, bigoted…oh, and of course, you’re a stupid hick Christian from Mississippi by those who have elevated themselves to the self proclaimed titles of “morally superior” (and I still don’t understand where people who believe right and wrong are subjective get the idea of morality from in the first place).

And they call those of us who actually stand for the principles of God, and work to slay evil with LOVE, COMPASSION, UNDERSTANDING, and FORGIVENESS the horrible bigots.

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Wow…when I first read the headline, my mouth fell open, I spluttered a bit, my head spun a little…but now that I think about it, it seems incredibly romantic that Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald, and that’s why it took so long for him to go after him…wow, poor Dumbledore! He must have been so conflicted!

This is pretty interesting, though. Hm. Never saw it coming.

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well, now you’ve gone into “love the sinner, hate the sin” how can a benevalent God expect someone to hate themselves in such a way? never be happy with love or the life they lead? What Would Jesus Do? Christ didnt teach indifference, unacceptance, and ignorant judgement. if it’s your opinion, don’t try to force it upon me. I don’t force my homosexuality upon you, do I?

“Who would he hate? who would Jesus Hate?”

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Hmmmm’s comment: “People are not bigots and ignorant fools because they simply don’t want to live a certain way or expose their kids to certain things…why is it okay to be openminded with everything except people that are not open minded to everything?”

Excuse me? Homosexuality isn’t something kids will pick up from a book, it’s something people are born with. “Oh no, Dumbledore’s gay, no little Billy will be too.” If you had an inkling of common sense you would know that’s compete bullhonkery. The words you use to describe anti-gay people are bigoted. YOU are a bigot. By the way, your statement on open-mindedness directly contradicts itself and makes no sense whatsoever. Take some grade school classes and try to form a coherent thought.

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oh man, i saw this coming a mile away… but the confirmation did have me whooping in joy.

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“I love Albus Dumbledore no matter what! Everyone who loved HP and Dumbledore, and now claims to never want to read the books has something wrong with them. He is still the same man he was before. How has this new information changed him? It hasn’t, and if you find yourself having a problem with this, then YOU are the real problem, and you need to work on yourself.”

You just don’t understand, do you? Do you realize how much I’ve loved these books? Do you know how much of an impact they’ve had on my life for so long?

And I really couldn’t have imagined a time when I’d ever have the strength to give them up. But the moment I saw this, that strength came.

It’s not about some petty fictional character…it’s about actually standing up for my principles as a Christian—not being a hypocrite and saying “Oh, well I’ll let it slide this time because I’m a fan of this.” NO. I will not do that. It’s time that I actually take up my cross and follow Christ, instead of making excuses to continue my own selfish indulgence in the things of this world.

This world has NOTHING for me.

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Oh my gosh, no way! Dumbledore… I can’t believe… he’s… he’s… gosh. Dumbledore’s gay! I never in my life thought he’s gay. I can’t believe it!

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I think it would’ve been really interesting if she’d written this into the books, or even, conceivably, into a later book, but to simply announce it is insulting. She should recognize, as authors generally do, that characters don’t exist outside the books they’re written into. It would have been much more reasonable for her to say “I always thought of Dumbledore as gay” than to say that he actually is.

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Ignorant people aside, Dumbledore being gay isn’t all that much of a revelation. I always kind of guessed, but when it wasn’t addressed in DH I figured it just didn’t matter. I’m glad that JKR cleared this up. I thought that Dumbledore’s lack of a love life in the seventh book was suspicious, seeing that love plays such a huge role in the book.

It’s good to know that JKR isn’t heterosexist like so many people in the comments. Jesus didn’t preach intolerance, people.

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Hahaha, this is so awesome! GO GO JKR!

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So, Ashton, did you completely miss the theme of acceptance and tolerance in all seven books or what? Are you sure you were reading Harry Potter?

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Yokata wrote: “Does this alter the story in any way? It doesn’t. Dumbledore is exactly the same person he was before.”

I think that was the point some readers are trying to make. One does not have to be homophobic to wonder why this is something that Jo felt she had to announce “after” the publishing of the book-that is as opposed to Jo choosing to reveal that Dumbledore was in love Grindleward in the text. If the fact that Dumbledore had romantic feelings for Grindlewald was important to the Dumbledore’s background-why not address the relationship as a love affaire “in the book”? I don’t think it would be necessary for Dumbledore to make an announcement, “Harry, I’m gay..” but what if Jo had Albus admit to Harry that he couldn’t kill Grindlewald because he loved him …? Might have been rather powerful writing.

My initial reaction was: whoa—the poster on the Quill who quessed Dumbledore and Grindlewald had a romance was right…

I’m going to have to go back and read the story of Dumbledore and Grindlewald again to see if there were any hints that the attraction between the two young men was more than intellectual, that I missed.

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KellySaunders: how can you compare LOVE to MURDER? in my opinion, and I would guess the opinion of most of the population, they are quite different. because I love a man, I should be sentanced to death the same as a person who took the life of another? I’m afraid I don’t understand this logic

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“well, now you’ve gone into “love the sinner, hate the sin” how can a benevalent God expect someone to hate themselves in such a way? never be happy with love or the life they lead? What Would Jesus Do? Christ didnt teach indifference, unacceptance, and ignorant judgement.”

No, Jesus didn’t hate…He loves.

Don’t give me this “born with it” bull. It doesn’t matter whether you chose it or not. What matters is whether or not you choose to overcome it.

Would you not urge a pedophile to overcome it? Would you not urge someone who was born with an addictive personality to overcome his addiction to those things that are harmful?

<> overcame the curse of homosexuality, though I struggled with it so long. But when I finally truly put my faith in Jesus Christ…it vanished like a vapor.

So don’t you dare tell me it can’t be done.

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Ashton, I think you just posted a logical fallacy. Clearly not everyone believes certain charactistics are immoral (like homosexuality), and that is how we’re able to debate morality. You’re assuming that all things moral have been set in stone (literally) for centuries. How can we judge morals or debate ethics if it is so clear cut? Maybe to you it is that simple, and congrats on that, but to most people it’s not.

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Well, you be a Christian then. But know that I believe that there is nothing wrong with loving another human being—no matter their gender. God wouldn’t let people be born gay if it were wrong and unnatural. There is nothing wrong with it, and to treat another human being differently because of thier sexuality is, in my opinion, the sin.

I’m very saddened by your beliefs, but they are YOUR beliefs, and I suppose-though I seriously disagree with them-you are entitled to that.

I will stand up for what I believe and continue to enjoy Harry Potter. If I’m ever lucky enough to have children of my own, they, too, will be read these stories, and they will know that Dumbledore is gay.

It’s impossible in my eyes to see someone differently because they are gay.

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How could Neville live over the Leaky Cauldron if he’s a teacher at Hogwarts??

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Oh Ashton, how sad. I don’t believe in a God that would ever expect me to give up Harry Potter in his name! No God could be that cruel!

And btw – the majority of the world identifies as having a Christian religion. You are the majority. What world do you think that you live in?

It has everything for you. And you have sway over a lot of other people too.

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“Would you not urge a pedophile to overcome it? Would you not urge someone who was born with an addictive personality to overcome his addiction to those things that are harmful?”

You cannot compare sexually molesting children to two grown men deciding to be in a relationship together. They’re not even remotely similar and it’s offensive that you would even attempt to compare them.

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I can’t believe there are so many homophobics in the Harry Potter fandom! How about you guys start living in THIS century.

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i’m confused ashton, these books arnt’ promoting homosexuality. they simply have a character that happens to be gay with in them. are you upset that Dumbledore as a gay person, wasn’t shown as evil, or that JKR acknolaged that some people are gay out there. because disagreeing with a particular characters “lifestyle” doesn’t change the content of the books. i mean the fact that DD was gay was so igsignifacant to the actual plot of the book, it didn’t even make the cut. you can still let your kids read the books and point out that though DD appears to be a good character, he’s going to hell because he finds men attractive.

i’m just trying to understand why your stance on homosexuality has anything to do with your appreciation of a series that really has no stance on the subject one way or the other except in the acknowlegment that it does exist.

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ALBUS DUMBLEDORE CONFIRMED BUGGER; INVESTIGATION LAUNCHED INTO HOGWARTS SEX SCANDEL

My faithful readers, I have it on full authority that Ablus Dumbledore was smitten with the love that dare not say its name. Further investigations have revealed that a sex-for-grades ring was commonly accepted by the establishment at Hogwarts, headed by Dumbledore himself. Indeed, Prof. McGonagal is now know to be a lesbian and often seen in the company of one Hermione Granger at such secret tryst sites as the restricted section of the library, her office, and the quidditch field late at night.

It is unknown how much of this involved our savior, Harry Potter, but it was a frequent sight to see Dumbledore and Potter alone in the headmaster’s office.

Stay tuned for more details.

Rita Skeeter

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Well I’m going to bed. Nice debate everyone.

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Ashton, you are totally contradicting yourself. First you say this:

“—It’s refering to those who live those LIFESTYLES. You can still have homosexual tendencies without embracing the lifestyle and calling yourself one. You can still struggle with it, but hate the sin itself.”

And then you say this: “it’s about actually standing up for my principles as a Christian—not being a hypocrite and saying “Oh, well I’ll let it slide this time because I’m a fan of this.””

If the true sin in your eyes is in embracing the LIFESTYLE, then why should what JKR said tonight change your opinion of the books or of Dumbledore? The only LIFESTYLE of Dumbledore’s that is depicted is that of a powerful wizard, a respected mentor and a compassionate human being. The fact that he was homosexual has no bearing on any of that. There is NO indication in any of the books that he embraced the LIFESTYLE, as you put it. It’s not as if JKR has announced that she’s going to write a Queer as Folk-esque story of Dumbledore’s youth. So for all you know, he could have been doing exactly what you mentioned in the first passage of yours that I quoted. (Not that I actually agree with you on that, but that’s a whole other can of worms. I’m just trying to point out a hole in your own comment.)

You say these books had a huge impact on your life, but yet you’ve clearly missed the point of them, which is tolerance of others, even if you don’t agree with them.

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HEADLINEHEADLINE

ALBUS DUMBLEDORE CONFIRMED BUGGER; INVESTIGATION LAUNCHED INTO HOGWARTS SEX SCANDEL

My faithful readers, I have it on full authority that Ablus Dumbledore was smitten with the love that dare not say its name. Further investigations have revealed that a sex-for-grades ring was commonly accepted by the establishment at Hogwarts, headed by Dumbledore himself. Indeed, Prof. McGonagal is now know to be a lesbian and often seen in the company of one Hermione Granger at such secret tryst sites as the restricted section of the library, her office, and the quidditch field late at night.

It is unknown how much of this involved our savior, Harry Potter, but it was a frequent sight to see Dumbledore and Potter alone in the headmaster’s office.

Stay tuned for more details.

Rita Skeeter

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” he’s going to hell because he finds men attractive.”

Dude, please. If Dumbledore’s going to hell it’s because he was a manipulative bastard, not because he was gay. kthxbye

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so what if dumbledore is gay? big deal. it doesn’t change the books.

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If I see one more person say “I’m not bigoted, but homosexuals are sinful, immoral and just plain evil.” Please look up the word bigot.

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um…Greg…wouldn’t you enjoy that rod going deep more? Need lube for that or are you already stretched out?

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Guys, I hate Dumbledore. I’ve always hated him. The fact that he’s gay? I don’t care about it. It doesn’t change the books, in my opinion.

But you people who loved Dumbledore and are now turning on him and the series? You’re all a lot of bigots.

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hilarious rita i love it. but i loved the series and this news is neither a shock or a worry… it is what it is…. goodnight

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oooooh yeah baby! dumbledore liked it like that! Oooooh yeah! Uh huh uh huh huh huh huh!!!!

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I have respected Jo for years. I also consider myself not just a tolerate person but a caring person REGARDLESS of personal belief or sexual orientation choice.

HOWEVER

To me this is 1. A Cheap Shot to Christians: to quote her, “I have just given them another reason to not like me…” Many, many of us Christians LOVE you Jo and have defended you for years and that was low, I am deeply offended and feel you need to apologize for that statement, we do not deserve that after being loyal fans for years. I can not be responsible for what a few wackos have said and done over the years by attempting to ban your books, but the Christian Community as a whole did not deserve that comment. 2. A Coward’s Approach: If it was so important for us to know his sexual orientation why did you not declare it before and make a true stand? If you wanted to truly promote tolerance why did you wait until AFTER your books sold to reveal this. Maybe because you knew it would possibly affect your book sells? Sorry that is the coward’s way to deal with things…and I do not not see this as a “victory for gays and lesbians” as some say, but a scrape from the table…no thanks. 3. A Way to Grab Headlines: What’s the matter Jo, do you miss the front page of the trash tabloids so much you needed to go and create new shockers? Or maybe you are getting ready to launch something new? Regardless I feel betrayed and it has nothing to do with DD being gay but you being deceptive and manipulative…

All of you who think this is great can attack me all you want, but this is about trust and she infringed on it. I would no more burn my Harry Potter books as I would my Bible, but I can tell you I am no longer excited about re-experiencing the joy of reading the series with my younger daughter who is finally now old enough to read and enjoy the books as I did with my older daughter who grew-up with them…I have no desire to get into,

“Oh my gosh Mom was he really gay?” To me that just adds nothing to the book, but has been forced upon me because of her revelation…to me this is not what the books are about…

I am seriously disappointed and sadden Jo, very bad form! Sarah

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i think it would have made a bigger and better impact if this was done during the series, though i think it’s great just the same.

to the idiots who are saying this ruined the series.. how? if you think that, you weren’t a real fan to begin with. grow a brain and stop marrying your family members.

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Amanda: Finally something we agree on. I was wondering the same thing myself about Neville. Maybe during summer holidays?

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“If it was so important for us to know his sexual orientation why did you not declare it before and make a true stand?”

Um wow. The point is that it ISN’T an important thing! Why should Dumbledore being gay be any more of a big deal than him being straight!

That’s the problem! People don’t realise that this SHOULDN’T MATTER!

Dumbledore is still the same man now that he was before! It doesn’t change anything!

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So instead of a mountain of hateful comments, would anyone like to comment on how the information about Dumbledore affects the books?

Personally I think it adds another layer to Deathly Hallows when you consider that Dumbledore resisted challenging Grindelwald for five years. That’s a very tragic situation.

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IT’S CANON NOW BITCHES! HAH!

And for the people complaining about how nothing was said before, get a grip. Being gay does not define who you are. It’s a part of you, but it doesn’t define you. It’s like having hazel eyes for heaven’s sake. Dumbledore’s still the same old Dumbledore you loved/hated.

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I’m finding myself totally lost right now.. I’ve known he was gay ever since I watched the extras on the DVDs.. he pretty much comes right out and says he gay on them.. so this whole “OMG WTF WHAT A BOMBSHELL” thing is throwing me off.. since I thought it was already common knowledge.

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“Personally I think it adds another layer to Deathly Hallows when you consider that Dumbledore resisted challenging Grindelwald for five years. “

Same! I love it! I mean, it made me wonder why he waited so long if he was so powerful. Perhaps he was hoping he wouldn’t have to? It’s really very sad.

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I’m cool wit DD being gay, however,

NO SNAPLEDORE NO!! BADBADBADBADBADBAD

damn… one more thing for the christian wackos to bitch about. And Molly said so can I.

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I’m cool wit DD being gay, however,

NO SNAPLEDORE NO!! BADBADBADBADBADBAD

damn… one more thing for the christian wackos to complaine about.

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Dumbledore: “Harry, why can’t I quit you?”

Harry: “You don’t have to…just don’t let Ron and Hermione find out.”

Dumbledore: “Very good Harry…wait…just a little to the left…slowly…slowly…ah…that’s good Harry. You’re so much like your Father in this regard…he had a gentle touch there too.”

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I’m cool wit DD being gay, however,

NO SNAPLEDORE NO!! BADBADBADBADBADBAD

damn… one more thing for the christian wackos to complaine about.

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I really wouldn’t have had a problem with him being gay but to come out and say it now after no mention of it in the books is just NONSENSE. That’s all we need is more Harry/Dumbledore youtube video’s. I like my mentor’s and source’s of wisdom to remain anonymous about personal things like that. I am DISAPPOINTED with JKR’s decision to identify Dumbledore as gay. This is worse that book 7 spoilers!!!!!

And Go Neville!

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Dumbledore: “Harry, why can’t I quit you?”

Harry: “You don’t have to…just don’t let Ron and Hermione find out.”

Dumbledore: “Very good Harry…wait…just a little to the left…slowly…slowly…ah…that’s good Harry. You’re so much like your Father in this regard…he had a gentle touch there too.”

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How come no one is complaining about it wasn’t necessary to mention Neville married Hannah? Afterall if it’s not necessary to mention that Dumbledore is gay, it shouldn’t be necessary to mention that too nor none of the other many things Jo has mentioned since DH was released.

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I like how Jo revealed this. It’s just an EXPLANATION to the essence DD has as a human being. I guess it all comes down to ACCEPTANCE. To quote Jo, LOVE IS DUMBLEDORE’S “GREAT TRAGEDY”. For more reference, check out all the comments here. See how PEOPLE accept that info. I think it just ADDS more to the character. Solid job, I say.

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whoever posted that bull under my name needs to grow up and piss off.

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I agree with you Two-HeadedBoy.

Jo’s confirmation of Dumbledore’s feelings for Grindelwald has only made the whole story of that confrontation all the more human to me. After reading DH, I felt that she made Dumbledore more interesting than in all the previous 6 books (whereas she took everything that was interesting about Snape and destroyed it, IMHO). But now, not only is he interesting, but he’s also someone I can empathise with and truly feel compassion for. I’m so looking forward to re-reading the book knowing that what I kind of guessed might be the case actually is true.

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Granted it was a single statement he made.. but it comes off as “I’m gay”. I can’t remember now which extra it was because it was so long ago.. but it’s not like he was in the closest.. Ugh.. Somebody find what I’m talking about so I don’t have to? He’s been out for awhile and this whole thing is really annoying me.

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You know, this is truly wonderful.

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www.dumbledoreisnotgay.com

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Dumbledore: “Oh Harry, it looks like we are being watched. Quick, cover us with your invisibility cloak and use the “lubricatius Glide” charm again…I’m getting a little chaffed and I don’t want Professor Snape to be upset again like the last time I turned him down.”

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wow just because you make a webstie does not change what is true

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GREG

Wow. THAT was rude. Don’t think I deserved that one…even though you completely mistook my meaning. I don’t believe I called anyone anything.

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I’m so happy for this I was literally jumping up and down a second ago. It’s always so great to know more about them. Neville and Hanna! And Hanna being the landlady of the Leaky Cauldron makes me giddy. Dumbledore being gay! I didn’t expect that AT ALL, but I’m so, so happy! He’s such an amazing character and the icon of so many good things… I’m honestly marvelled at a wonderful main character in a children’s book (more or less) being gay :) We’ve come really far, as a culture.

Uhm. Or not so much.

Sorry, but I need to say, to the ones who are all OMG NOES: Shut up. Dumbledore was, is and will be amazing, gay, straight or goat lover. He is much, much more than a sexual orientation. And the ones with the “WE DIDN’T NEED TO KNOW HIS SEXUAL ORIENTATION”, also. Did you need to know about Harry marrying Ginny? Did you need to know about Neville marrying Hanna Abbot? Did you need to read the books? Whatever he loves it’s is a part of him, as the fact that Draco Malfoy’s son wants to be friends with Harry’s son. Random data about the characters we’ve come to love. Things that make them who they are. And Dumbledore is still, well, ALBUS DUMBLEDORE. Duh.

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why didn’t she do it within the books where it would have made a big statment? WELL MAYBE BECAUSE SOMEONES SEXUALITY SHOULDN’T BE HEADLINE NEWS!!! it has nothing to do with the series and only mentioned it when answering the question. she was not out to make a statment for queer rights or promote tolarance and acceptance for the homosexual lifestyle… it’s just another random fact, and random as finding out Luna became a naturalist.

if my son ever asked me, is it true Dumbledore really prefered strawberry ice cream? cause i only like vinella. i’ll shrug and say yeah, not everyone likes the same dish.

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Now I know why it was important for DD Harry should be “his man”. Urgh! And why he protected Sirius and James afer the “prank”. Urgh. He got every a boner while looking at the guys. Poor Severus. No wonder he did not wanted to be DD´s man through and through. Snape was a normal man.

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I’m all for Two-HeadedBoy’s comment. I feel like my comment was sooo redundant to yours! Hahahahha….

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Thank you, self-professed Christians who have posted tonight: I now remember why I don’t go to church anymore.

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I’m pretty sure that whoever is still writing with my name is a homophobe. I’m also pretty sure that your Jesus is disgusted with you for your lack of respect for others.

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HE COMES OUT ON ONE OF THE DVD EXTRAS PEOPLE!!! THIS IS REALLY OLD NEWS TO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION!! GET OVER IT!

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wait, did the BIBLE really say “THOU SHALL NOT BE A HOMOSEXUAL”. I NEVER heard THAT in mass. like, EVER. someone, clarify this?

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The Bible says no such thing.

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all this name calling is absolutely ridiculous. seriously.

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Woah…that cera’s pretty sick.

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WHAT’S THE MATTER CERA…gay sex gross you out…aren’t you being a little judgmental? How dare you judge how we show our LOVE. You are the homophobe…the other Cera is just trying to be funny…and as I gay man, I think its hilarious!!

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thanks, Cera (the real one, right? lol.)

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oh please. anyone paying attention to this thread would know better than to ask me that.

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hazel: haha no prob. :)

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I wonder if this will be on the news?

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Omg, there was no need to tell us Albus Dumbledore’s sexual orientation. I wonder how the acotr playing him feels about this little piece of information.

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Incidentally, there are a lot of devout, practising Christians out there who are the farthest thing from homophobic. I was raised Christian, though I’m not any longer, and the church my family went to – the largest Protestant denomination in Canada – performs same-sex marriages, ordains out gay and lesbian ministers, and fought for a long period of time for legal same-sex marriage. I know a straight man who is a devout Catholic who served for some time as the secretary of an LGBT rights organization I’m involved with. He simply felt that he was called, both by his religion and his private morals, to fight for those who are oppressed. So the reaction to this among Christians will not be uniformly negative, trust me.

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oh, i’m really sorry. let’s all chillax now. Oh, I can’t wait for the next Pottercast!!!

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Did not need to know that. I honestly think she took away from the Dumbledore character in a HUGE way by adding this detail (almost after the fact too). Less is more JK, you’re better than this…

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so wait…there are two cera’s? LOL

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That´s just wayyy cool! But I wish she had had the guts to mention it more explicitely in the books. I mean, let´s be honest, the average reader let speak the book for itself and doesn´t normaly venture into the realms of para-canon.

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I don’t know who that other cera is, but that pretty funny in a sick kinda way…not to say gay sex is sick

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I agree

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Jim, yes gay sex is gross. You people have anal sex for goodness sick where the poop comes out and is.

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TROLLS! Or at least one of them is. The other’s been posting for a while. It’s pretty easy to see which one is which.

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Jim: I think Cera’s problem is more with the immaturity of someone stealing her name. And it’s not a matter of whether or not what he/she (the fake cera) is posting is funny.

And I think you’re way out of line calling her a homophobe just because she’s annoyed by someone who is quite clearly trying to do just that to her.

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someone should clean up this thread LOL

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Hahahaha you people are pathetic. All of you are saying that it doesn’t change DD. Umm to let you know JK made this to cause a stir. If it had anything to do with his character, she would have put it in the book. I heard that nxt week she will say that Lily had an abortion and Hogwarts went to war with Iraq when Harry is 50. Stop trying to add these dumb facts after the books are over. I hate the fact of DD being gay. There was no need for that or saying that tthe Christians will attack now. I am a Christian, and being gay is wrong. That doesn’t mean I hate gays, but it is a sin. You are not born gay. No one is. It is not proven that you are. It is a choice. It may be a sick form of perversion. My main point to all of this is that it was dumb to add this after the books were published. Stop trying to get more press clippings. Stop trying to be some superwoman activist that causes a stir with bold statements. You had great books. Just leave them as that!!!!

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Uh, Cake: just wondering, are you somehow a fan of Chris/Blake? you just caught my attention, sorry if you have no idea of what I’m talking about.

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Thank you, Ana.

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Man, I’ve got to go now. I’ll check up on these comments tomorrow.

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Ana, sure…she doesn’t like trolls. I get it. I also think that many of our defenders only defend us to show that they are “cool,” but when it come time to accept what we do with each other…they are grossed out.

Case in point: Cera…would you do anal? No? Why not? Gross?

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oh Ethan, honey… i think it really wasn’t necessary to include dd’s sexuality inn the books, just the UNDERTONES you know? I think it was all a confirmation on that very small nagging thought in the back of our heads. hahaha ;P

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Ah the internet…isn’t it a wondeful thing? To go from a kid’s story to gay rights, to anal sex…what an enlightening invention, what a wonder we have wrought.

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“If it had anything to do with his character, she would have put it in the book.”

Ethan: First of all, just because YOU didn’t see any indication of this in the books, does not mean she didn’t put any there. It’s called subtext.

Secondly, using your logic, you should also be rather upset that she mentioned that Neville and Hannah get married, because there was definitely NO indication of that in the books. So, are you? Does that upset you? Has that ruined the books for you as well?

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Let’s put what Jo said tonight in perspective:

My name is Charles Dickens, and oh yeah… Little Tim grew up to be gay.

Does it matter?

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I’ve gotta say, this is what broke the camel’s back after the travesty that was Dudley Swallows Deathly Hallows. I would have been okay with it if we knew somewhere in the series – I think it could have been inputted somewhere, even if Dumbledore didn’t say it himself, and perhaps in one of Harry’s visits to the Headmaster’s office. Perhaps Dumbledore could have mentioned some guy was handsome, Harry could have arched an eyebrow, and it would have been more than enough for us to figure it out. As for the comments…

We were supposed to assume Dumbledore was gay because he once wore plum colored robes and (briefly) a flowered bonnet? And y’all accuse us of stereotyping?
“This news confirms so much I had suspected about Albus. He had to battle the one person he truly loved in order to save the world. That adds SO MUCH to the story, folks. That whole battle scene is so much more raw and gut-wrenching when you put yourself in his place. MASTERFULLY done Jo. Masterfully.” By Joshua

This comment was what actually made me think this is indeed another plot-hole cover. This is why it took so long for Dumbledore to defeat Grindelwald, after so many people had already died? I would agree it would have been a master-strike…had we known about it in the books, not in some interview hardly anyone will remember in a few years, or even months.


“Also Amanda, if you don’t like my militant heterophobia, well you are just a bigot and since I am a victimized minority, I can get away with saying anything!” Bonnie Your attitude is what’s wrong with the world today. ‘Nuff said.

So way to go with this publicity stunt, She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, and way to kow-tow to your rabid slasher fanbase. You’ve utterly lost another fan. Bye guys, it’s been fun, and long live the Weasley twins! >:*(

AloysiusWeasley

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Joe88: LOL, agreed dude, agreed!

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No problem Cera. I’m willing to bet that “Jim” is the same person who is pretending to be Cera… why else would he attack you so nastily for no reason?

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Does JK not have enough media attention? She throws this in with Neville being married…unreal. It almost seems made-up. I’m glad I got to finish the series with “My Dumbledore”. Not gay. Not straight. Just the greatest wizard ever, period. Thanks for at least not ruining that JK, you’ve only just ruined every re-read for the rest of my life.

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wow! Montrealisis. You say there won’t be a negative reaction from Christians?? I am a Christian and I am mad. Every else I know that is a real Christian will be angry. You say your church performed gay marriages. lol Ever read the Bible or your church? It says sanctity of marriage. A man and a woman. no 2 men or women. I don’t know how your church called itself Christian without reading the Bible. What else did they do?? Perform abortions at the service?

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Anyone who truly admired Dumbledore’s character and what he stood for should have no issues with this information – he was accepting of everyone; blue-eyed, brown-eyed, muggleborn, wizardborn, sherbert lemon-liking, cockroach cluser-liking, squib, witch, and the list goes on and on and on and on. In an ideal world this revelation would receive no hype whatsoever because we’d all recognise someone’s preferences as their own private right to have and as being irrelevant to how we treat them. But since we have not reached that stage yet, I think this is an excellent place to start. Thank you for all your excellent charcaters Jo!

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wow! Montrealisis. You say there won’t be a negative reaction from Christians?? I am a Christian and I am mad. Every else I know that is a real Christian will be angry. You say your church performed gay marriages. lol Ever read the Bible or your church? It says sanctity of marriage. A man and a woman. no 2 men or women. I don’t know how your church called itself Christian without reading the Bible. What else did they do?? Perform abortions at the service?

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Well, duh.

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Well, we don’t need all these hateful homophobes to be part of the fandom anyway. I don’t personally care to be associated with them…

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You guys make me sick. How can you make fun of love? Jesus effing christ, all these subjective “I’m not against gays, but Dumbledore is a good character and shouldn’t be gay” comments. Honestly. Gays have caused less harm than crazy, selfish, manical Christians.

Someone clean up this thread! All these innapropriate sexual references are not funny. Nowhere does HOMOSEXUALITY imply PEDOPHILIA. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. So just shut up, because without Harry Potter, you would have been a hell of a lot less happier than you were for the last ten years.

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J: I think those info are for the Potter-obsessed and open-minded enough to handle such infos (ahem, like me. throws cyber confetti). Alright? yay!

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Wait…there’s two ceras? I thought the little vignette that cera did was humorous…clearly tongue in cheek…how was it a personal attack?

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Uh huh. There’s been one Cera defending Dumbledore and gay rights, and another “cera” who has been writing Dumbledore pedophilia under the same name in an attempt to make the other Cera look bad.

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It’s funny… I remember reading HBP and thinking that the part where Dumbledore takes Harry into the wood shed to talk to him was weird, although I wrote it off to safety, because of the death eaters. Can anyone else think of REAL moments where they thought things like that?
So Dumbledore is gay, Aberforth had a thing for goats(I always suspected Aberoforth of that),and Ariana was likely sexually abused(at least in my opinion). Hmm. Anyone else think that’s interesting?
To everyone who’s saying,’she’s just revealing it for publicity,’ I just read an article that stated she ‘hadn’t realized that people would be so interested, or she’d have said it sooner.’ Here’s the link to that article, you might have to copy and paste. On a side note, I don’t know how reputable the source is but it’s probably true that she said that.
http://www.slashfilm.com/2007/10/19/harry-potter-jk-rowling-reveals-dumbledore-was-gay

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Joe88: I actually thought they were humourous too, but why did the person have to use someone else’s name, especially after being asked not to. That’s where the personal attack comes in. He/she was clearly trying to piss Cera off.

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Ethan: First of all, just because YOU didn’t see any indication of this in the books, does not mean she didn’t put any there. It’s called subtext.

Secondly, using your logic, you should also be rather upset that she mentioned that Neville and Hannah get married, because there was definitely NO indication of that in the books. So, are you? Does that upset you? Has that ruined the books for you as well?

Haha good one. O sorry nerd I haven’t read it 5 times and examined each page to see what the subtexts were. O ya I am pissed with Neville and Hannah! and the deathly hallows. No indication of that(sarcasm)You’re an idiot! I don’t like the gay part of it. I don’t care about the no indication part… thanks. You may be the dumbest person alive. You just want him gay so you can pretend to go to the mall and shop together.

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Harsh, Ethan.

Oh, yeah, and dumb.

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How naive can you people be? She’s totally ruined the series for a LARGE amount of people, and has done more harm to the fandom than ANY spoiler EVER did.

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Louis…it was kind of funny, I don’t think it was meant as pedophilia…didn’t JK expect this kind of fan fiction, especially when she said, “Oh the fan fiction.” Surely she realized we’d have Brokeback to Hogwarts and other such stuff.

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She’s made the series good so gay people can be ahppy too!

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that last one was to ana.

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Witchway: I don’t know…it’s how I interpreted it…And she did say that quote, but I didn’t think of it like THIS.

I mean…Dumbledore’s got 100 years on all of them, or something. LOL

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I agree wholeheartedly with burningpumpkins: The majority of sexual pretadors are straight. There’s no rule that says ‘all gay men are child molesters’ or ‘all child molesters are gay.’ It’s not fair to say that. Dumbledore has never done anything to Harry: He loved him like a son.
If anyone can think of any parts of the books that seem to hint at Dumbledore’s sexuality, please post them.

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THIS IS GREAT NEWS! I KNEW IT! WHEN IS SHE GOING TO DRAG REMUS OUT OF THE CLOSET?

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Ethan: Why are you here? Clearly reading the books DID NOT TEACH YOU A LESSON OF ACCEPTANCE and SPEAKING IN A HUMANE WAY TO OTHERS. Why do you even bother to go here and read the news if the last book pissed you off and transfer that anger to someone else?

You would NOT change our opinion your just encouraging us to stand our guard. Just like the Christians’ beliefs here: The more they’re beliefs are harmed, the more they stand in what they believe.

It’s pathetic you know.

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oh my gd haha

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I never knew Dumbledore wrote that song…who’d have thunk it? LOL

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He did always have a sense of humour?

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Wow, that’s really… special. You’re saying your enjoyment of the books was entirely dependent on not knowing the sexual orientation of one of the characters?

Quite remarkable, really. You’d think it might have had something to do with, I don’t know, the story. Or the theme. Or Quidditch or something. But no, the thing that made HP the greatest series evar was not knowing Dumbledore’s sexual orientation, and now it’s ruined.

Silly JK Rowling – destroying the cornerstone of not-knowing-Dumbledore’s-sexual-orientation-ness upon which the greatness of her novels entirely reposed!

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oh, dumbledore! your post goes to my file honey! ohmygosh! LOL.

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I don’t think it’s got anything to do with pedophilia: Harry’s had enough crap dumped on him without that.

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Dumbledore for Gay Pride…Dumbledore in drag! Absolutely brillient. Can’t wait to find out who else is gay…my bet is on Hagrid

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“How naive can you people be? She’s totally ruined the series for a LARGE amount of people, and has done more harm to the fandom than ANY spoiler EVER did.”

only to those who believe a person sexuality should be explicitly stated so that we can make our judgments about them in advance

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I can’t wait to get home and tell my partner. We are such big Harry FANS! I know its a little nelly of me, but, gush, I would so love to have been Dumbledore’s teddy bear on those cold nights in the castle…this is a gay man’s dream come true!!!

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this is so cool! i would have never thought of that but it it fits!

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Welcome to the real (albeit Muggle) world.

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I’m with you mike! I’d polish his magic wand…lol :)

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oh, and just wanna say this: “ONE OF THE GREATEST WIZARDS IS GAY!!! WHOOOHOOOO!!!!”

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YEAH HARRY POTTER!

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Ethan: Why are you here? Clearly reading the books DID NOT TEACH YOU A LESSON OF ACCEPTANCE and SPEAKING IN A HUMANE WAY TO OTHERS. Why do you even bother to go here and read the news if the last book pissed you off and transfer that anger to someone else?

You would NOT change our opinion your just encouraging us to stand our guard. Just like the Christians’ beliefs here: The more they’re beliefs are harmed, the more they stand in what they believe.

It’s pathetic you know.

Sorry Hazel I could barely read your writing. Are you in first grade? You’re is you are, they’re is they are. ok anyway. Haha why would I read Harry Potter to find a lesson of acceptance and speaking in a humane way to others lol. It is a childrens book. I don’t read it to get some internal message. All it was was entertainment. And actually the last book rocked. jtlyk. It’s pathetic huh? Sorry atheist. I stand up for beliefs. It is sickening to look at such a corrupted world where bad things are not only accepted, but encouraged. My beliefs are not harmed… they are challenged by lies. It is called a response.

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yeah…but it might need a stiffening charm…..

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I MEANT, YEAH DUMBLEDORE!!

LOL

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Dumbledore for Mayor of San Fran ‘08

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ahahaha

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return of the name snatchers?

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WooHoo…I’ll be his “running” mate…that way he could pound on me every day

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Ethan: they’re =their! haha, you got me dude. oh yeah!

and yeah, I understand what you’re saying (got that one right? right? haha…) just please don’t hurt people with words. and i’m not an atheist, I’m Christian too, but I guess I have an entirely weird relationship with God, he understands poor little old me I guess. But thanks for the time to actually acknowledge my comment!

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waitaminute… Hannah Abbott??? O.o That’s sort of… boring.

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I lose my respect for jo, and it has nothing to do with dd being gay.

—-before dh come out, most question asked, she answered with no comment or you find in book 7, or it would give it away. now the book is out, most of these question she said no comment to are not answered in dh, and if she had given the answere, it wouldn’t have revealed anything.

—-she lied when she said dd was dead implying no more harry and dd talk, and dd explaining everything to us. What is the point of him being dead. she lied about the secret keeper thing. and other things. If these weren’t outright lie, then she still showed not caring about the fan by not getting her facts right, and just confusing us.

-why is it everything with her appearances specially when answering question is managed and only have preselected questions. it feels like hillary clinton appearance instead of open question and answere session with a author of a book.

—she doesn’t respect the fans enough to respect their views about her characters. she keep insisting for example to view snape as crule, sadistic, ventictive etc. She has authority of characters backstory and motivations, but not the views we form on them when we read the book. That showed luck of acknowleding different views.

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1 Corinthians 6:9-11: “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.”

This is the strongest and most clearly worded verse I found, though there are others. The verses above are good, because what they say is this: “if you practice one of these things (in the list) you can’t “inherit the kingdom of God” or, essentially, go to heaven. But you can repent of your sin and be forgiven, if you believe that Jesus died for your sins and turn from your sin to God.” Love the sinner, hate the sin, that’s what God does, that’s the message of the Bible. Christians aren’t homophobes. We just believe the Bible says it is one of a number of sins we are to avoid.

I’m just posting this because someone asked whether it was in the Bible. There’s your answer.

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“Sorry Hazel I could barely read your writing. Are you in first grade?”
Yeah, that’s real mature, Ethan, picking at someone’s grammar. It proly means you know she’s right.
“Haha why would I read Harry Potter to find a lesson of acceptance and speaking in a humane way to others lol. It is a childrens book. I don’t read it to get some internal message. All it was was entertainment. And actually the last book rocked. jtlyk. It’s pathetic huh? Sorry atheist. I stand up for beliefs. It is sickening to look at such a corrupted world where bad things are not only accepted, but encouraged. My beliefs are not harmed… they are challenged by lies. It is called a response. ”
First of all, I find that highly insulting. It’s published as a children’s book because Jo is classy and doesn’t put depictions of sex and lots of language and extreme violence in her books. It’s a novel for everyone.
Second, she never said she was an athiest. I can tell you’re an ass though, just by reading your comments.

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Hooray for Dumbledore.

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oh, and Ethan! more for you darling!

why would I read Harry Potter to find a lesson of acceptance and speaking in a humane way to others lol. It is a childrens book.

Spoken like a TRUE CHRISTIAN! you should be proud that children’s books are nothing to your GREAT FOLLOWING of the BIBLE’S WORDS!

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puts a whole new depth to his sisters death dont it. Knowing that the love of his life may have killed or goaded him into killing his own sister…

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p.s. Hooray for hazel too. you tell it like it is! whoot.

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Mrs. Lovegood: Oooh, I’m learning a lot today! thanks for the time!

We just believe the Bible says it is one of a number of sins we are to avoid. -> hmmm, got a proble with “sin” there, but alrightie then! (no offense to you ma’am, hope you understand!). again, thanks!

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I really didn’t want to come back to here to join the brawl, but why are we dragging Christianity in this?

Mrs. Lovegood said: 1 Corinthians 6:9-11: “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.”

I SAY: I don’t care. All this bible crap makes me sick because they’re all LIES! LIES TO MAKE PEOPLE PREJUDICED, INTOLERANT, AND EVIL!

Again, I’m not against people who believe in Creationism… I’m against annoying people hurt innocent people, aka. radical Christians. Especially all these people on this thread slamming homosexuality. Don’t you know saying all these things are insulting gay people? Don’t you know that’s rude, mean, and discriminating? Don’t you have any manners?

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proble = problem… sorry.

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What are these kinds of people doing reading Harry potter anyway?

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thanks, Kacie. you’re a sweetie for whoot-ing me! hahaha…

Avatar Image says: I’m just posting this because someone asked whether it was in the Bible. There’s your answer.

FYI, the word “homosexual” was coined in the 1800s, at the same time as our modern understanding of homosexuality was just starting to be born – a little late in the day for that to have been what the Bible authors had in mind. There are great divergences of opinion as to what Paul means by arsenokoitai, the Greek word he uses. It’s the first record we have of its use. A lot of scholars believe it means male prostitutes, not just any male who had sex with another male.

In any case, I always appreciated the argument that said that if homosexuality were really the primary, A-number-one sin that a lot of people treat it as, Christ himself might have deigned to mention it at some point.

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Jim:

Can I ask what made you assume that Cera is someone who is grossed out by gay sex? Seriously, I’m confused by your combative attitude toward her when all she did was try to get a troll to stop using her name. I mean look at the tone of your response to me versus the tone of that toward Cera. To me, you merely stated your point of view matter of factly. to Cera, you seemed to jump immediately on the attack. Is she someone you know and have a problem with or something? (Sorry if this seems nosy, but I’m truly baffled by it.)

Now as to your original point that some people claim to be gay-friendly but then change their tune when it’s right in front of them I agree to some extent, but just because some people are “closet homophobes” doesn’t mean we all are.

I’m a slash fanfiction reader/writer and I’ve encountered some people who are avid slash fans, but then totally freak out when confronted with real live men having real live physical encounters. I don’t get it. And in fact it really pisses me off. So I know those people do exist, but I also know they don’t speak for all of us. And I’d like to think that at least among your ‘defenders’ they’re in the minority.

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You deserve to be whooted. I completely agree with you. I put up with people bashing HP for using magic. It’s not okay to love a book until you find out there’s a gay person in it, because it opposes your “god” and “his” “book”

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I think a lot of people that are asking “Why Jo” or “Why tell us now” are forgetting that she was asked a question. She answered the question truthfully. She has backstories on most if not all of her characters.

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I was actually surprised to find out. But I don’t think it matters. I still love the book, and I think it’s great she added that one of the greatest wizards of all time is gay.

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Ethan: You are completely and utterly ignorant and immature. And that’s about all the response I’m going to waste on you.

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Well, that’s … surprising.

Oh, the haters are going to increase tenfold, now.

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yes Kacie: Open-mindedness is key to knowledge!

meaning more fun for us! yay! we should not limit ourselves to limited beliefs, people. LOL. i’m really looking forward to pottercast trio’s comments!

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Im gay… but somehow it just doesnt ring true… maybe its hard to tell when your a hundres plus years old.

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My mom saw a mention of that interview and told me JK had outed Dumbledore as gay.

I burst out laughing when she said that. I should’ve seen it, but never did.

I’m still laughing.

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Great to get some real news for once! The only downside is that it might get Mrs Mallory started up again…. ah well. I think Neville should have married Luna though!

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WTF!!!

No wonder he “loved” Harry . . . and then decided to kill him off.

It’s like “ooooh, so you like Ginny now do you?” . . .

I guess this is the final proof that Ian Mckellen would’ve been the perfect actor for Dumbledore . . .

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Honestly people, even though you don’t explicitly state a character’s sexuality doesn’t mean they don’t have one, and it doesn’t mean it should also be assumed to be straight.

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Hey people.. this is supposed to be a Harry Potter fan site. All you hypocrites who were okay the HP series even though it has magic (although the Bible is against it) but are not okay with DD being gay (because the Bible is against it) should log off and go to bed.

Let’s talk about Neville and Hannah. Now that they own the Leaky Cauldron do you think that they’ve switched to an all herb/vegetarian menu?? LOL.

I always wonder if the teachers were allowed to go home on the weekends via the floo network. Can’t imagine that being at Hogwarts would keep you away from your spouse for months at a time.

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Wow, some real information. Great!

About DD being gay: somehow it fits with the image I hve of him although I never thought of him as gay before. And finally we got an answer on these goats :c)

The most interesting I find her explaining why she didn’t kill Arthur Weasly. And I a happy she didn’t do it.

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I have no problem with Dumbledore being gay, but I have to ask- What’s the point? It doesn’t add anything to Dumbledore’s character that’s relevant to the story- there was no need to add this later on. Its just silly. Frankly, this reveal looks like a publicity stunt to me. I’m very sad that this story will just give new fodder to the “Harry-Haters”.

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Cally Tyrol: I think it’s for the back-story for the people that might be interested. :) like me!!! (haha, sorry, I’m a dork)

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While I think it is one of the ultimate tolerance lessons in this day and age, I guess I don’t see the point in outright revealing that (or a lot of other things, not just that). I mean, yes, regardless of how you feel about someone’s sexual orientation, we should still all treat each other with kindness and respect. Just because you don’t agree with someone, it doesn’t give you the right to stomp all over them. And as far as DD being gay….GOOD FOR HIM. Now we officially have a gay character! Like someone said before “ITS CANON NOW!”

THAT ASIDE, I am all for the notion that not everything has a nice neat little bow tied around the ending. There are always loose ends, there are always unanswered questions, there are always mysteries in life. Why do we need to know everything? I know we all care about the characters and the books and what not but … I was kind of liking the post-book 7 bliss. I don’t really care who Draco married specifically, who Neville married, what Seamus does for a living, where Dean is now, etc. I personally like daydreaming the “what if” situations. Isn’t that what JKR encouraged initially? I swear I heard her give an interview right after DH was released saying that not everything is neatly packaged and she wanted us to think of what it could have been for ourselves. Its kind of hard to do that when these headlines and what not are constantly shoved in our faces, if not online then by someone who had read it and blurts it out right in front of us. So much for using our imaginations to figure out how everything turns out, she’s just going to tell us and be done with it I guess.

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Dudes, many sects of Christianity fully accept homosexuality, don’t paint ‘em all with the same brush please.

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Dumbledore has always been my favorite character. Now I love him even more. JK is absolutely brilliant. I cried and cried after reading her quote from the event. I cried because of her courage, because of the audiences reaction and for the joy of knowing gay people for the rest of time have a hero to look up to.

I love you Jo!

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Hah, now I’m thinking of memory!DD when he was wearing that suit that Harry complimented him about. Yay for eccentric gay wizard fashion sense!

For all those people who say they didn’t see any evidence of it in the books or it came out of left field, I think that’s just because it would have been inappropriate to have DD expressing his sexuality (if he was gay or straight) in the books. I mean, when we see him he is, for the most part, around minors. And since he has no significant other to be shown having displays of affection with, why would we see anything about his sexuality? We don’t see anything about McGonagal’s sexuality either.

What I wonder is, did the wizarding world in general know? What are their actual attitudes toward homosexuality (as opposed to the ones found in fanfiction)? Or was it just something he kept private? Considering he was born in 1881, I’m guessing he did, for the most part.

To “I don’t like where this conversation is going”: You ask if the people who are against homosexuality have any manners, and yet you yourself yell at them (that’s what I read caps as) and tell them that their beliefs are lies and evil. Perhaps you should not be so quick to accuse others of intolerance.

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wow, that transcript was great Leaky!!! Oh, Dumbledore’s tragedy! awful, awful.

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Why does Dumbledore being gay have to have “a point”?? It’s a facet of his character, not his REASON FOR BEING, nor the OMG PLOT POINT around which an enormous conspiracy is formed. He simply IS. In the same way that gay people are gay just because they ARE.

It’s irritating that something so simple should demand justification. Sure, I can see how some would have wanted more obvious in-book indication of his sexuality (especially given Jo’s penchant for occasional “hit the reader in the face with it until they turn blue” characterizations) but I can easily see this as either a graceful, subtle, and even-handed approach to a character whose orientation didn’t actually factor that much into the events of the book and so went undeclared, OR sloppy writing—I think Jo does sometimes overestimate how much a reader really processes from what she’s supplied on paper.

Look at it this way: four books in, Ron and Hermione hadn’t touched or kissed or anything that would classically signal romantic interest to most audiences, and yet Jo just assumed everyone would KNOW they were meant for each other (which, as people know, turned out not to be the case for a certain shipper fandom). It’s not unreasonable to think she’s assume similarly when she wrote the Dumbledore/Grindelwald bits. Bits which, I add, are further complicated since the reader only gets to hear of it second-hand.

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Yay! I knew it! My friends and I were even discussing that he and Grindelwald had something going. I feel vindicated!

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I would love to see a book written in the teenage years of severus snape and how his life was in full

Also i would like to hear on what happened to Draco Malfoy, who he married and what happened to his parents thereafter.

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I just wanted to know that it makes me extremely pleased to find out this bit of news. Thank you, Miss Rowling. A move like this will help to make homosexuality less of a taboo subject when it comes to entertainment and literature. Not only that, but this makes me love Albus Dumbledore all the more.

And to the people out there such as David, Ann, and Elfster: You found out he’s gay. So what? I’m sure that if she revealed that he had any sort of relationship with a woman that you would’ve had no complaints, whatsoever. You’re just showing your own insecurities and ignorance. You know what Plato had to say about gay bashing? “Wherever, therefore, it has been established that it is shameful (for men) to be involved in sexual relationships with (other) men, this is due to evil on the part of the rulers, and to cowardice in the part of the governed.”

And to Luna: ....are you freakin kiddin me? You’re glad that Dumbledore didn’t come on to Harry? Well I’M glad that Snape didn’t come on to Hermione. I’m also glad Mrs. Weasley didn’t come on to Harry. Or are you trying to say that gay people are more likely to be pedophiles? You f&#%ing disgust me. A straight guy is JUST as likely to be perverse in some way as a gay guy.

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“I SAY: I don’t care. All this bible crap makes me sick because they’re all LIES! LIES TO MAKE PEOPLE PREJUDICED, INTOLERANT, AND EVIL! ... Don’t you know saying all these things are insulting gay people? Don’t you know that’s rude, mean, and discriminating? Don’t you have any manners?”

By your same logic you shouldn’t be insulting the Bible. I’m a Catholic and even though I see homosexuality as a sin I can still find qualities to admire in DD. No matter how flawed he is.

And remember what Jesus said: “I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you.” (Matthew 21:31)

So even though I believe homosexuality to be a sin, that doesn’t mean Christians automatically have the right to scorn gay people. We’re all sinners, so we should be humble and show mutual respect to each other, differences aside.

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omg dumbly-dore gay? kawaii! zomg! the fanfics!

xx

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BTW, why doesn’t Draco owe a life debt to Harry. Harry saved him twice! Is it because Draco did lie at the Manor about nor recognising him and because of Narcissa lying about Harry’s death?

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I have no problem with Sirius being straight, but I have to ask- What’s the point? It doesn’t add anything to Sirius’ character that’s relevant to the story- there was no need to add the girly posters later on.

(Look, there’s plenty of other ways to demonstrate a rebellious Muggle-lovin’ streak to the parents. I don’t have anything against fellow straight people, but why do we have to get it shoved in our faces like this?)

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Wow! That’s great! And it can be even better if Jo tells us Snape is gay too!!)

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I agree with those that say this is a pathetic attempt by Jo to be right-on. Let’s just pull a character out from the hat and make him gay. Sirius and Remus has more of a loving gay connection. Stop trying to shock, Jo. My opinion of you is shrinking with every book reading you do.

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I don’t care about Dumbledore either way on that particular department. I’m afraid she might alienate some fans and give more fuel to the critics that already hate the “witchraft” that is spoiling kids.

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I’m not sure about this at all. I’ve long had the feeling that JK didn’t write these books without a lot of help….she created this world and yet stumbles to remember it? Maybe that’s what she felt about Dumbledore, maybe it wasn’t….I’m not sure adult sexuality is fodder for children’s literature—-gay or straight. For me, she should of kept it under her hat….now it’s that much more controversial to defend the books.

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the Dumbledore/Grindelwald thing was, in my opinion, blatantly obvious in DH, but she was very brave to say it outright and I admire her for it. GO JKR!

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DD ist not the problem, the hypocrite JKR is the real problem.

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Dumbledore was created by J.K. Rowling, so she can make him whatever she wants, no matter what people believe or don’t want to believe. It is what it is. Live with it or go jump off a bridge.

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WOW!!and i thougth there won’t be any more surprises after DH.well i guess i was wrongXDXD

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I LOVE JK ROWLING! (even more now). I just wish there was some kind of evidence in the books, this way nobody’s going to believe me at school!!

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While there were dots that can now be connected thanks to the revelation, I don’t think that the closeness of two wizards who were dreaming up a new wizard order and had a falling out automatically equated to a romantic element involved. Some of the posts act like such “evidence” along with Dumblydore’s choice of robes qere smoking guns that screamed out GAY, but that’s as bad a job of stereotyping as any of the negative comments that have followed JK’s revelation. Speculation off of those items or anything else is fine, but to act liek they were big red flags that were peculair to one seual orientation is taking it too far.

The revelation can and should add depth to his character, but it shouldn’t put it into a special “gay” box where all of his actions are shaded and interpreted accordingly. The best thing about these books to me was how being an individual rather than a slave to tradition or labels was the most important thing to be, and I just hope people don’t get into the “He’s one of those so I hate him” or “He’s one of those so I love him” just based on one part of his overall character, which goes for everyone else.

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“I’m not sure adult sexuality is fodder for children’s literature—-gay or straight. For me, she should of kept it under her hat…”

Oh, right. That’s why none of the adults dated, or had children, or married. That’s why none of the students hooked up, or were revealed to have been married later.

Look, sexuality is an undeniable part of one’s orientation. But if Jo can write about straight characters having romantic entanglements without writing about their SEX LIVES, you want to bet it’s possible to do that with gay characters too? The assumption seems to be that once someone gay is introduced, everything relating to their romantic interest is all about the SEX SEX SEX. Funny, none of the straight characters hooking up seemed to leave that impression.

And, lest we forget, we didn’t even get this explanation of Dumbledore from the reading material ANYWAY, so I’m not seeing where all this “this book isn’t appropriate for children anymore!” is coming from, even if the “gay = OMG SEX!” was a valid concern. Which it isn’t.

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I think there were a lot of clues in the books about Dumbledore being gay, in DH bathilda says of albus and grindewald “the boys took to each other at once”, and “both such brilliant boys, they got on like a cauldron on fire” i think it’s a beautiful and tragic love story, if grindelwald was a woman everyone would be saying how romantic it was, like they did with Snape/Lily.

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I agree with Bella. I actually caught that one too <3 People there is nothing wrong with being gay, even if it’s DD. Grow up. please.

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Can i just say that i knew this already. You can read it so clearly in the book.

heck jo even used the words “caught anf inflamed him”

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IM SOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY! FINALLY A GAY CHARACTER AND IT’S SOOOOO PERFECT BECUASE AFTER DEATHLY HALLOWS GRINDEWALD/DUMBLEDORE WAS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PAIRINGS. I LOVE YOU JO!!!!!

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someone has probably said this before but: Dumbledore had an [b]unrequited[/b] affair with Grindlewald. He loved him without anything being returned. So all this talk about sex etc is redundant. why such an outcry about DD feeling love for a man?

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Wow, at first i was like “Pah, this is just tabloidish, there’s no basis for it in the books”.. but when I read it was with Grindlewald, and really thought about the series of books – I now love this piece of information. I can totally buy this now, and in fact can’t see Dumbledore in any other way now I know the truth! It’s like one vital piece of info that’s made an unbalanced mountain steady. It explains the reluctance to fight Grindlewald, depreciates Dumbledore’s God-like status a little more (he too can be blinded by love), and adds a whole new subplot to the story. Imagine Dumbledore.. making that trip to Germany, to defeat and possibly kill the man he loves… great stuff. Well done Jo; it might also bring up a whole new generation of kids who are more open and accepting of homosexuality (and goatasexuality) ... heaven knows theres too much intolerance in this world. [Ovation].

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For those complaining about too much information and not needing to know his sexuality. This was not written as part of the book…remember what Jo said…she said “I always thought of Dumbledore as gay”...so its just some side note info thats just for the hardcore fans that absolutely NEED to know every possible little tidbit. However, because America is run by a lot of bible bashing right wingers…expect this to get negative press. Frankly I can’t wait to see Stephen Colbert’s spin on this (since he’s such a big fan of HP).

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JKR is brave and cool, although I’m disappointed that the MM/AD ship has been sunk :(

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I have a strong feeling that Ms Rowling is making this up as she goes along. She forgets how many students there are, names of characters, the fidelius charm and the unforgiveables change with every book; and now Albus Dumbledore is gay. Nothing to back this up, but she says it in the conservative capital of the world, in other words, America. I agree wholeheartedly with those that say Sirius and Remus were gay, and great for it, not Albus though. I never thought I would be looking forward to Jo Rowling keeping quiet, but I am now looking forward to the day when she stops talking about Harry.

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Any “Christians” who have a problem with this need to read the words of Jesus, and not the modern-day idiots that lead their bigoted churches.

Typical modern Christians: Hate everyone who is different than you.

Just like Jesus did.

Pathetic.

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“WOOOHOOOO!!!!! This is a victory for homosexuality the world over. Dumbledore is iconic, and I can’t wait for all those little children to hear about this. I am so insanely proud of Jo for doing this! YES! Posted by Sue on October 19, 2007 @ 09:34 PM”

Yeah. Great. Thanks for ruining a perfectly pure series by introducing sex to it for no other reason than to shock. Way to go. She could have just said he had a great love and left everyone to their own imaginations. That would have been about the “love” whether male or female. By making it specifically homosexual she has made it about sex. There is no other reason to bring it up except in relationship to the SEXUAL orientation. All of you saying just because he loved a man it wasn’t about sex, of course it was, otherwise the whole topic is irrelevant. Two guys who enjoy each other’s company and just hang out are not necessarily homosexual. They are FRIENDS. Homosexulaity only enters into the conversation if sex is involved. You can talk about a straight couple gettign married and having kids because, like it or not, that is the “norm” and sex is not the first thing that springs to mind. Inappropriate, Jo. My DA t-shirt might as well say gay pride across it now. I don’t have a problem with gay people, I support their rights and to live their lifestyle, but I am not planning to march in any parades. And you, whoever you are, being unable to wait for “all those little children to hear about this” what kind of sick person is excited about kids being over sexualized in our culture? I hope you don’t have any.

By the way, the reason she was able to write him as “homosexual without any stereotypes” is because, guess what, he WASN’T GAY when she started writing the books, I guarantee you. She decided this along the way somewhere and to “out” him now when all the peak interest has waned. Its a cheap ploy. My regard for her has slipped permanently.

“Does this alter the story in any way? It doesn’t.”

Exactly. So why do it? She has turned this all into a talk show joke. Oh, Harry is Dumbledore’s man? Picture the eyebrows wiggling. It will go on and on. The books will be taken over by this now, it will be THE issue and all anyone will want to talk about in regard to them. If she wanted to write a story supporting gay rights, why didn’t she just say so from the beginning?

It is naive of anyone to suggest that kids will still be able to read the books without having to know anything about this or that the info was only for the hard core fans on sites like this. Do you really have no idea of the press this is going to get?

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daffy duck, did you read DH? dumbledore/grindelwald was totally OBVIOUS, read some of the comments with quotes from the books, actually it explains a lot of things like albus reluctance to fight Grindlewald.

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Does anyone else grow to hate Christians more and more every day, because they cannot tolerate people different than them?

I know I do.

I think Christians (not the ones who follow the Bible—the ones who follow George W. Bush) are the saddest, most scared, pathetic human beings on the planet.

Why are you so scared of everything? Don’t you have a reservation for eternity with Jesus anyway?

Cowards.

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Blimey, never saw that one coming! But now I think about it, when I read DH, Dumbledore and Grindlewald seemed very close, even for best mates.

I really don’t see a problem with it though, what does it matter what sexuality someone is? As long as two people love each other, and neither is being harmed either mentally, emotionally or physically, then it shouldn’t matter if it’s a man and a woman, two men or two women. All You Need Is Love, folks.

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“nothing backs this up”

HELLLLOOOOOOO. read the darn book!!!1

it says “caught and inflamed” and that they were owling each other at night. gosh how much convincing does it take.

Jo has shot up in popularity with up slashers now. And i thought i was just reading subtext. I was afraid that it was just that “subtext” and nothing further. But now Jo…. squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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“By making it specifically homosexual she has made it about sex.”

Really? So if she wrote a love story with a woman and Dumbledore, would that just have been about sex too? Or are you so ignorant, so isolated, to think that men cannot fall in love with each other?

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i think it was very brave of her. she envisoned him as gay, and you know what? it makes sense. and maybe it will help reduce prejudice. Dumbledore was agreat man, what does it MATTER what is sexuality was?

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No need to attack the gay lifestyle. No need to attack Christianity. As a gay Catholic I am in the middle in this debate, but I am also able to see both sides. Everyone is too busy trying to push their own values and beliefs down everyone else’s throats, that we seem to be losing the point of acceptance. The biggest problem with religion and sexuality is that no one seems to be content with who they are, and focuses too much on “saving” everyone else. Atheist? Cool. Straight? Cool. I won’t read Dumbledore as gay, but simply because I never read him as sexual in any way. He was not straight, or gay…he’s just a good teacher, and an admirable character. People are different, and their opinions always will be. I hated that Fred had to die, but that was all part of the story.

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That explains a lot ! Thanks JK for making so realistic characters !

Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald but did Grindelwald ever return his love ?

Very interesting !

She’s so great !!! I love Jo !!!

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Dave, as a Christian I’m very insulted by this. Please refrain from writing such things. Fighting intolerance with intolerance is not a good idea. And by the way, I have not a single problem with Dumbledore being gay. (Imagine, those Christians exist as well). But I don’t think, that it is a big victory for homosexuality or anything like that, because for that, JKR should have put it in the book. As it is, most readers will probably never know that, because they don’t all hang on the net to read her statements, like we do.

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point to Dave.

Why is everyone implying that Dumbledore is a peado just because he’s gay. he loved harry like one would a grandson.

Morons

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Well, to those who dismiss the “gay” bit, please look at the letter DD send to Grindelwald. It is a bit strange only between friends, that’s what I thought when I read it first time. But well. As someone said, would she have revealed a girl-connnection everyone would have been delighted. And the books don’t change after this revelation. DD is still the same characer he was before. Loving Harry like a father, a bit scheming, pulling the strings behind the scenes, etc. So why are you all going through the roof because of that bit of information?

I agree wth others though, that she perhaps could be a bit more careful about what she says about the subplot. There a way too many people analysing her every word. Right after the DH release she contradicted herself in interviews. But I put that down to stress around finishing the book and the release. Plus she herself said that she had to check information while writing. Therefore she had her notebooks and she wrote on her website that she frequently checked with the lexicon.

I hope she will write the encyclopaedia soon to end these discussions.

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“Dave, as a Christian I’m very insulted by this. Please refrain from writing such things. Fighting intolerance with intolerance is not a good idea. And by the way, I have not a single problem with Dumbledore being gay. (Imagine, those Christians exist as well). “

Forgive me, I’m a bit fed up with bigoted Christians who have apparently never read the New Testament or the teachings of Jesus Christ, but prefer to vote Republican and hate gays with a passion.

Like I said, there are two types of Christians in the USA today: Christians who follow the Bible and the teachings of Jesus Christ, and Christians that follow the sick, hateful teachings of the Republican party. I have a TON of respect for the first kind, and I have nothing but hate for the second kind. Sad thing is, the second kind doesn’t even understand why they’re going against everything Jesus taught.

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In fact I just thought that it doesn’t change a lot to know that Dumbledore is gay expect for his past (just the part with Grindelwald).

I mean Dumbledore is a father figure in the book, straight or gay, is still the same good and brilliant person !

I hope people won’t see DD differently now. Because is not because you’re gay that you have a different or very typical behaviour.

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I love you Jo ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

As someone else said- Dumbledore is Jo’s character, she can do whatever she damn well pleases with him. And so what if, when she first had the idea for HP, he wasn’t gay? The series didn’t stroll into her head fully-formed!

As for the people who think she’s done this to get in the tabloids- do you people know nothing about her personality?!

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Very nice gayhate. So don’t read them again. It’s your decision, and shouldn’t matter to anyone else, whether we stay fans or not.

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Wow, at first i was like “Pah, this is just tabloidish, there’s no basis for it in the books”.. but when I read it was with Grindlewald, and really thought about the series of books – I now love this piece of information. I can totally buy this now, and in fact can’t see Dumbledore in any other way now I know the truth! It’s like one vital piece of info that’s made an unbalanced mountain steady. It explains the reluctance to fight Grindlewald, depreciates Dumbledore’s God-like status a little more (he too can be blinded by love), and adds a whole new subplot to the story. Imagine Dumbledore.. making that trip to Germany, to defeat and possibly kill the man he loves… great stuff. Well done Jo; it might also bring up a whole new generation of kids who are more open and accepting of homosexuality (and goatasexuality) ... heaven knows theres too much intolerance in this world. [Ovation].

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And dave, not all Republicans hate gays. The generalizing in this thread is unbelievable.

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aaaargh. Peadophilia is a crime not synonymous with homosexuality!!!! Dumbledore is GOOD darnit. all he did was fall in love with Grindlewald.

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To me, what Jo says outside the books doesn’t count. When she stated that DD is gay my first reaction was: Why couldn’t you make some hints in the books? It would be a good message of tolerance for children and would have taken away from the gay stereotype.

Then I read these comments and understood why she couldn’t.

Didn’t we get over homosexuality 40 years ago? Certainly in Western Europe we did. The general consensus is: Man loves woman? Man loves man? Great deal.

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Please calm down a bit. Jo certainly didn’t say this to support homosexuality or introduce sex or anything at all. It is only a facette of Dumbledore’s character. Please! This is going way too far.

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“And dave, not all Republicans hate gays. The generalizing in this thread is unbelievable.”

The Republican Party has made it very clear they oppose homosexuality (unless it is in public bathrooms, wink wink).

If you’re a Republican and you don’t hate gays, how about not voting for all the hypocritical anti-gay candidates, then?

/not a Democrat //not gay ///just a person with an opinion

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Points out that there were hints in Deathly Hallows

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You’re talking about the other Dave I hope…

Wow, I love how much discussion this topic has provoked. I’m English, so I don’t know much about the Republican party.. but from what I gather they’re generally anti-gay.. what other controversial beliefs do they have?

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I don’t vote for either, as I’m Canadian, lol…I was also just making a point. And again, just because the representatives are anti-gay, still doesn’t mean the voters are. I’m sure many people who vote Democrat don’t necessarily agree with all of their party’s opinions…it comes down to the lesser evil sometimes.

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^ And I’m sure he’ll do that if he wants. How about not trying to pressure someone to vote for your side just because you think it should go that way?

Wow, that sounds a lot like anti-democracy.

//an independent with steadfast liberal views that has a problem with your pushy attitude.

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Dave you crack me up.

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“I’m English, so I don’t know much about the Republican party.. but from what I gather they’re generally anti-gay.. what other controversial beliefs do they have?”

Sadly, the US is about two decades behind you guys in accepting people being able to live their lives freely. (Ironic from the “free country,” huh?)

And also sadly, it’s not even controversial to be anti-gay in America. Many Americans think it’s great to hate their fellow man for who they happened to fall in love with, and then slap the Bible as proof they’re right.

Never mind one of the Big Ten Commandments is “Thou shalt not commit adultery,” yet these same Americans figure that’s not such a big deal; not like liking a MAN or anything.

These people typically have never read the Bible, and if they did, failed to understand the words.

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I must be honest. I feel completely let down now. Besides the fact that I do not believe that being homosexual is normal (and we are still allowed to have opinions, I believe) it seems that Rowling is just trying to create publicity and shock-value. Also it is unnecessary – the book is also for children and they do not need their heads filled with such things. No cheers for Rowling on this one.

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??”Really? So if she wrote a love story with a woman and Dumbledore, would that just have been about sex too? Or are you so ignorant, so isolated, to think that men cannot fall in love with each other?

Posted by Dave on October 20, 2007 @ 06:01 AM”??

That is exactly my point. This wasn't a LOVE STORY for Dumbledore!

??”Like I said, there are two types of Christians in the USA today: Christians who follow the Bible and the teachings of Jesus Christ, and Christians that follow the sick, hateful teachings of the Republican party. I have a TON of respect for the first kind, and I have nothing but hate for the second kind. Sad thing is, the second kind doesn’t even understand why they’re going against everything Jesus taught.

Posted by Dave on October 20, 2007 @ 06:09 AM””?

Now who is the biggot? Guess what? I can be Christian and Republican and still be for gay rights. Do not dare try to stick me in a box, you know nothing about me or my personal history. That does not mean I need to hear about Dumbledore’s sexual practices OR anyone else’s in the story. By the way, Jesus taught tolerance, not “anything goes.” There is a difference. You might want to check it out.

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Get a life…this is like the NOT biggest news to ever hit town. If you don’t want to know anything more about Harry Potter, quit reading her interviews. So Dumbledore is gay, I thought so all along and it doesn’t matter at all. Anything else you come up with is your own imagination – that is, who he dated or went after. JKR didn’t say anything about that. He and Grindel may have been in love and together a bit and so what? It is two human beings in a romantic relationship. Wake up and smell the coffee…it is happening all around you. And you know what? Some people have 6 or 7 wives and others live with 2 husbands and 1 wife in the family. Shocked to the core? Go have a beer because it will mean you had to get up and pull your head from the sand. I hope she says that Remus and Sirius were bisexual, that Ron and Harry experimented in their dorm (because young boys often do) and that Hermione had a crush on Ginny for 5 months – oh and tells us flat out what Aberforth did with his Goats. Maybe then people will start to realize that the world is not made up of traditional pairings of husbands and wives – oh yeah, and the husbands that beat their wives and the wives that beat their husbands – go fight against that, that is worth fighting for!

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If you’re a Republican and you don’t hate gays, how about not voting for all the hypocritical anti-gay candidates, then? Posted by Dave

Maybe because I don’t support baby killing. That has nothing to do with gays, is that ok with you then? Great, so glad to have your acceptance. There are other issues out there that determine people’s voting records you know, not just gay rights.

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Unfortunatley Marcus, this is TLC…this is what we do :p

But I am interested by all these people who keep suggesting that now other characters will turn out to be gay…I really don’t see that happening somehow.

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Whoa. JKR is not doing this for shock value. In Europe it’s no great deal. JKR is European, thus it means nothing more than what she already said: it explains DD’s motives.

Anyone else here from the UK just shaking their heads in disbelief? I’ve never seen anything like this.

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stem cells, republicans, bible quotes…c’mon people.

I hope that soon we can go back to just loving our books.

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Scotgirl- yep, Brit here too… I can’t believe all the fuss this is causing.

But for all the homophobes it’s their loss! =) If they’re going to behave this way I’m glad that they won’t get pleasure from reading the books now, they don’t deserve it.

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I was at work when I heard this on the evening news.

First off THANK YOU JO for portraying a gay person as a PERSON and not anything else…

What shocked me was my coworkers reaction. the man started howling about how horrible it was… how he was going to get up in church and DENOUNCE JKR to the community because she dared to put a gay character in a childrens book. He went on in the usual extreme right rant about how gays are unnatural (put your favorite rant here, it was probably covered)

Out loud I said (and this is true) I refuse to let someone’s sexuality ruin my thoughts of them, and therefore change my mind about some truly great books. In my head I was horrified at the vitriol that was spewing out of this persons mouth.

To those of you afraid that the books will be harmed by this revelation: Dont be afraid. Tom Sawyer Huck Finn and Jim survived a century of racial hatred… I am sure that Dumbledore and Grindlewald will survive the homophobia in the world today. Good books dont die, they just wait for children to grow up.

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People who are complaining about being attacked for expressing the opinion that homosexuality or the “homosexual lifestyle” are wrong, consider this: try having an opinion that is based on fact.

Homosexuality has been around as far as history goes back. Homosexuals are not taking over society, they are simply less afraid to accept their sexuality now than they have been in the past. Unfortunately, many gays still marry the opposite sex and end up with kids and a relationship with no romantic element because society at large expects that of them.

Homosexuals don’t have a lifestyle. They just grow up attracted to the same sex, the same way heterosexuals grow up attracted to the opposite sex. That’s the only difference between a gay and straight person. There is nothing else to it, nothing. And nothing has happened so far to suggest that homosexuality itself is detrimental to society at large, other than the way it is percieved negatively by some people.

So before you judge JKR for creating a gay character, remember that her beliefs are based on fact, not a book that may or may not be entirely fact, written by flawed humans (we all are) who believe in a god that may or may not exist.

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Agh. I’m not trying to offend anyone, but how does that help? Yay, all the bad people who disagree with me won’t gain all this enjoyment that the books have to offer…I’d say that’s more sad than a good thing, and somewhat immature as well.

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Add that to the fact that he is kind, intelligent, and able to get along with people from all walks of life without being judgmental and he definitely sounds like some of my male friends who are gay. Posted by cordelia

Yeah, because those are strictly gay guy traits.

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Oh yeah, forgot to say. Maybe its cause Im fron NYC but damned if I didn’t break out laughing when I heard this and thought YES PURPLE SUIT (the one he wore when he interviewed Tom) EXPLAINED!!!

That’s about when my coworker blew up. >.<

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Amazing how this just detracts from what the books are about. I always knew that that was why none of her characters could be gay; once you have one gay character, it is all anyone will talk about. Still, this amount of fuss is incredible. If everyone is so keen to talk about so-called “sexual abnormality”, why aren’t we talking about the lesser Dumbledore?

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Just for the record, and with all due respect, just because one does not believe homosexuality is a good thing does not make them a homophobe. I have had gay people in my family and I still loved them, but I still understand it to be unhealthy, and not normal. But anything goes nowadays, so who am I to say…

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Just for the record, and with all due respect, just because one does not believe homosexuality is a good thing does not make them a homophobe. I have had gay people in my family and I still loved them, but I still understand it to be unhealthy, and not normal. But anything goes nowadays, so who am I to say…

Posted by suzie on October 20, 2007 @ 06:33 AM

Oh? And why do you believe it to be unhealthy?

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Thank you suzie…my mother, (who still loves me very much) agrees with you wholeheartedly :p

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“It’s not even controversial to be anti-gay in America”

That sucks, in anything but the lowest of company here in t’Old Blighty, any form of difference from the norm in a person is generally accepted and embraced. I love that so much; it’s especially strong in the youth.

It seems so odd to me that churches which are supposed to teach good things are promoting intolerance. I can understand why not all Christians are following the same set of beliefs… because the Bible (like the HP series) has some inconsistencies.. so it’s not really possible to take the thing as a whole and accept all the lessons in one.

Instead, people focus on some particular parts, and perhaps over-emphasise them .. there’s probably some vague reference to, or something that can be twisted to show, negative feelings towards homosexuality. People will always be scared of what they’re not used to, but it doesn’t mean they’re inherently bad. So they pick a church which accepts all of their beliefs, both good and bad.

But people, I see one overarching message in the Bible… LOVE. Hatred towards your fellow man for feelings that they cannot change is not love. If you are unable to read the bible because it looks really long and it’s all in ‘olden day language’, then have a look at Order of the Phoenix, and then you’ll know that you can manage it. Failing that, read the Harry Potter series. Its message about love and tolerance is pretty clear.

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Let’s start with this: I don’t care if Dumbledore is gay or not. Though I’m sure people will start with the speculation of “what were Harry and Albus doing in those, ahem, private lessons in HBP…is THAT way he’d name his kid after the manipulator and his pet greasy git? And hmm, is THAT why Albus always trusted Snape?”

Now the cynical responses. One, at least she waited til the last book was out awhile before this reveal, so she made sure she got her cash before a segment of society tosses or burns her books. Because you know there WILL be some that will do that.

Second, taken from someone who commented on the Newsweek online article: JKR might prove again that controversy creates cash. Could spur more activity at the bookstores and theaters (and DVD sales).

Honestly though, I’m starting to worry a bit. She’s losing consistency with her reveals…wasn’t the last time we heard from her having her say that Neville and Luna got together (and this after Luna was said to be with a naturalist)? Now it’s Neville and Hannah? What’s next, we find out that a year after the Crapiloge that Neville marries Ginny because she and Harry split over the worst name a child could ever have?

There was an article recently about fans worried that George Lucas was doing a Star Wars series, because they’ve been afraid of him ruining the legacy. I don’t want JKR to get that same rep. If she wants to make these big reveals, write the encyclopedia, and then be consistent. Otherwise let the seven books stand on their merits (as soon as you rip the epilogue out…sorry, that was badly done).

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Scotgirl- Im from england. being gay is NOT A BIG DEAL over here. I cant believe all this fuss! ;)

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well, all the gay people in my life have died of AIDS. Very sad for them, and for me. Sometimes we just have to see things as they are, though. Sexual promiscuity seems to be a factor here, which is of course also a problem with heterosexuals, or bisexuals, the only ones, and some very close ones, in my life who have died of this disease, were gay. I am not a fanatic religious person, nor a homophobe. It is just my experience.

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Heh, we can get married here in Canada…

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WHAT??? DD IS GAY? would of never thought of that… i’m really happy for neville though- i like hannah abbott even though she wasn’t mentioned much.

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Ken M- Jo didn’t say anything about Neville & Luna being together! And even if she had have done… are people only allowed to be with one partner now? It is possible to go out with a person but marry someone else.

Also- not everything revolves around money =)

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Jo said she liked the idea that Neville and Luna grew closer…which they probably did, before he became a teacher and she ran off to be a naturalist and marry Rolf Scamander!

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“waits for the news about McGonagal being a lesbian”....LOL

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And why exactly didn’t she put that information in Deathly Hallows? Where was the problem? It pisses me off that she’s revealing so much just to make those fans happy. So stupid.

But of course that doesn’t make Dumbledore a better person…

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This is just getting silly.

This is a great fandom. These are great books. Period.

Just chill.

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That’s right suzie, promiscuity occurs with people of all sexualities. The reason it is has been so prevalent in gays is because of negative self-esteem, caused by society’s attitude. If you are treated like something disgusting, you treat yourself the same. You don’t practise safe sex because society is making you feel like you deserve to be punished.

AIDS affects more straights than gays, btw, the largest affected demographic is African women. And it’s not just in Africa, Britain registered more heteroexuals than homosexuals with AIDS in 1999, and the situation is probably the same in other countires. It’s a disease like any other. It doesn’t discriminate on the basis of sexuality.

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You make a pro gay book and you don’t tell about one guy getting a hummer the whole book… what am I, six years old? I can take it, Jo! I’m a realist man, I wanna see real stuff going down. I don’t want this veil over my eyes. Harry’s mouth is practically watering the whole series, shove something in there.

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I have a feeling this bit of news is one of the most polarizing subjects in Potter History…I can see the divide growing among Potter Fans…Pro-Gay vs Anti-Gay…Left Wing vs Right Wing…

That lady who was fervently protesting Potter books and wanting to ban them from Libraries in America (because it promotes witchcraft) is about to get the biggest popularity boost she could ever hope for…

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Sorry, but “burn_…” you should really consider accioing yourself just a few brain cells…

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Though…I would like to know what makes hetero-sex any more sanitized than gay sex…it’s all pretty messy if you ask me :p

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No real surprise. I was also half expecting her to out Neville as gay and maybe Trelawney as a lesbian. That would have made them more ‘representative’. If only she could have included those thmesd in the stories themselves. But unfortunately the bigots would have jumped on it.

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Scotgirl – I am from Germany and you are so right. It simply is no big deal over here.

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Why does it seem like she’s making all this up after the series is done? If it’s canon, shouldn’t it, you know, BE IN THE BOOKS?!?

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Sahlla – I guess she tries to answer all questions – AND I don’t belive she makes it up. She has boxes full of notebooks with background story. So I doubt that she is making this up.

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Wow the HP nerds are really fired up. But really, the average adult doesn’t come to these websites. To those of you who think that this will affect HP fans everywhere, you are clueless. The series ended when the last book ended. After that everyone moved on. What, you think they’re going to put this on the news? “Our top story tonight: a fictional character from a book series that ended last year was recently announced to be gay”... most people moved on after the last book, not many people’s lives revolve around this book, I’m guessing this message of what gender Dumbledore prefers having sex with will never reach 90-95 percent of people who read the book…

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Jo has gone too far this time. Expect parents’ boycotting the HBP movie if not books-burning. Congrats Jo, you just ruined a great character with that stupid and unnecessary revelation.

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I think that this is great! I know that people think she shouldve mentioned it in the series, but surely by not making a big deal about it in the books shows that it shouldn’t matter whatever his orientation. He’s still our DD and I love him even mor for it! Go Go Jo!

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what_is_this, you’ve obviously been to TLC…I’d think it would be obvious that the fandom is still very much alive to a lot of people…many people won’t just move on from something they have cherished for 10 years…

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My opinion is that homoes are mean and intolerant. Your opinion differs from mine, so that makes your opinion the correct one?

Sorry but until I get to celebrate Straight Pride week, I refuse to acknowledge intolerable people like homosexuals, who consider themselves superior to us non-homosexuals.

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I sometimes fantasise about being a penguin.

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i think it’s wonderful that dumbledore is gay. it really helps the gay community all over the world that an icon like dumbledore is homosexual:)

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Dombledore’s gay!!! HA!! I did not see that coming.

Just to point out: You guys warn about major spoilers, and yet write them yourself on the title!!! :P

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I don’t attend Gay Pride Parades…I might be proud of who I am, but we don’t all find it necessary to make other people feel the same…

That said, Dumbledore is no more an icon for the gay community as he is for the senior community, the male community, or the half-moon-spectacle-wearing community. He is a character, and a well-written one, but he is written as human. No better because of any of these traits, which all lie outside the realm of his love and care and passion for the things he cares about.

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The only thing I’m SHOCKED about is the amount of ignorant homophobic BIGOTRY on this subject. So Dumbledore turned out to be gay – SO BLOODY WHAT?

Gay people exist, get the eff over it and stop being so immature. Jo couldn’t introduce overtly sexual themes into the books for obvious reasons, but if it was ok for people to be straight, ten it was also ok for people to be gay.

Some of you are so BACKWARD in your thinking that you might as well be living in the pre Civil Rights era when it was ok to hang people from trees because they didn’t fit with your narrow-minded idea of what’s right.

Sorry to say this but I wonder what percentage of the homophobes on this thread are American

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Intolerance exists everywhere…America is just louder.

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Most of the civilized world (save for America) will have no problems with this bit of news…I mean in Europe…Gays serve openly in the military…its not a big deal…its not something recent either…read your history books…(especially greek history).

I would liken those who fervently support the Republican Party (at least its current incarnation) to those who support the Death Eaters…who strive to keep those who are not “pureblood” (which can be interpreted as anything different than what those in power deem “normal” or “pure”)...when people say the Republican Party…the image we get is…white (pureblood?), affluent and intolerant of non-whites (immigrants or people of colour). Lucius Malfoy would totally win the Republican Nomination if he was a real person…(don’t deny it…you know its true).

America still needs some growing up to do…be patient…its a young country.

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The world is not split into good people and Death Eaters…

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Nothing bigoted or hateful about this comment, I just think Jo has decided to bring Albus out of the closet because she wants to stir things up. Pathetic, Jo, really pathetic. There is nothing in Deathly Hallows to suggest DD is gay. Like someone else said, does this mean next week we’ll have an outing of Minerva? How about Seamus was a eunich? Ron had a low sperm count?

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Oh Seamus…he never gets any love.

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Making Harry Potter Gay would have been far better.

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The Weasleys are a potent bunch all right!

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It’s really cool Rowling said this. I hoped it would have been in de books really, but you can’t have it all. :P

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I AM SO DAMN ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!! Ever since the last book was published the fans have wanted to know more about the characters. So Jo tells us who some of them hooked up with, what jobs they got, where they went, about their children – LOVELY, nothing wrong with any of that.

But as SOON as she mentions that Dumbledore was GAY, BIG bloody controversy. Suddenly she’s telling us something we didn’t need/want to know, and it’s ‘disgusting’ and it might turn children gay, and it lowers my opinion of Jo, and I’ve got nothing against gays but…[rolls eyes]

HAVE YOU LISTENED TO YOURSELVES? CAN YOU NOT SEE HOW BACKWARDS YOU ARE AND HOW IGNORANT, INTOLERANT AND BIGOTTED YOU SOUND?

I happen to remember a couple of years ago when screen shots for GOF came out and people had seen pics of Fred Weasley having hooked up with Angelina Johnson (who is Black) – the SAME BIGOTS came out of thr woodwork to bash the idea that Fred would want to ask a Black girl to the Yule Ball.

LET ME MAKE THIS…QUITE CLEAR

In the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and across most of Europe, we DO NOT make such a big deal about hmosexuality generally and interracial relationships. There is nothing WRONG with it, it’s the way people are.

So I for one am GLAD that Jo did not check with every redneck across the pond before she wrote these books and started work on her encyclopedia, because she’d have ended up burning all the witches and wizards to the stake and not got past the first book!

So here’s the thing. If you no longer like the books because a character in it turned out to be gay, then piss off and LEAVE Harry Potter fandom for good. And allow those of us with open minds and hearts to enjoy our books and it’s characters as we always will.

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I was here three hours ago, and you guys are still at it. Please stop it. JKR would be heartbroken to see people being so discriminating. Him being gay doesn’t change anything. Just because you are gay does not mean you are attracted to EVERYTHING that has a penis. People are still people, and Dumbledore was as nice as we all knew him, even before we knew his lovelife. This just makes the Potterverse more realistic. Everyone who is anti-gay here need to be more tolerant—accept the fact that not everyone can be exactly like everyone else. If Harry Potter were any more perfect, how could we be so consumed in an unrealistic universe? What I’m saying is, one of the best parts of Harry Potter was the fact that everything seemed so real, and that we could imagine ourselves being in it, or we could picture it perfectly. This was because JKR created a world that could seem real enough. The fact that homosexuality exists in Harry Potter, as with violence, and perhaps unnaturalness with goats with goats DO exist. I only hope that Harry Potter was intended toward older audiences so that these interesting tidbits could have been added in the books, and the books could have been a bit longer.

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Aberforth isn’t zoophilic… goatasexual is the correct term I believe.. =)

DD’S OUTING HITS THE NEWS STANDS ALREADY:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7053982.stm

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Hey, Europe is “across the pond” from a few places, not just the States…don’t lump us all in together.

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The pond means the Atlantic.. so Europe is really the only place ‘across the pond’ (and Africa of course).

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@ forgetmenot:

I guess at this point I’m just really annoyed with the fact that she keeps tossing out new info. Answering some questions is one thing, but I don’t see the point in ‘feeding’ us her entire stash of notebooks. The story is over and done with. Leave it be. Imagination can fill in the gaps if needed.

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I know that…but once again, Canada is not the U.S….neither is South America.

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LULZ. The sexuality of a fictional character is SO IMPORTANT OMG. This totally changes who Dumbledore is, even though nobody would’ve guessed if JK hadn’t said it. Overreact much?

And who gives a crap about all the religious parents who were already up in arms about the witchcraft stuff. It’s not like they were letting their kids read the books to begin with.

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Like I said…(parts of) America needs to grow up…stop being so homophobic…homosexuality has been around since the ancient times…

Cast away the chains of your puritanical ancestors beliefs…

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Who said anything about Canada or South America?

I’m still smarting at the ones claiming this might encourage children to be gay. Have you ever heard anything more ridiculous? And there I was thinking that it was the right-wing Mid-West Bible belt most likely to come out with that kind of backward bollocks. Reading about benevolent witchcraft and wizardry is ok, but someone being gay? Oooooh no. [rolls eyes]

Fans ASKED for more info. What the heck do you think the book tour has been all about? What do you think the webchat was all about? HP fans have been badgering JK for more info – but as soon as the ‘gay’ word is mentioned some people turn into a bunch of inbred rednecks.

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I think it’s pretty cool that we get to see insight into the characters’ lives now that the series is finished. I’m not really sure what all the fuss is about for Dumbledore being revealed as a homosexual, though. There are several aspects of the characters’ lives that Rowling left out of the books, and this is just one of them. I’m sure quite a bit of this would’ve come out in that Encyclopedia Rowling mentioned making, anyway.

And to those wanting a “Straight Pride Parade” and whatnot: I don’t mind you having them, but what resistance you may face is because “Straight Pride” events are actually used as a way to hate on gays, instead of taking pride in heterosexuality. Heteros can walk in and out of a GLBT event as much as they please, but if one queer dares walk near a Straight Pride Fair he is bombarded with anti-queer slurs and threats, if not actual violence. Once heteros can behave themselves like queers do, then you can complain about bigotry and “superiority”.

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Puts a whole new spin on Dumbledore’s comment that the Love Room in the Department of Mysteries held something “more wonderful and more terrible” than death or the forces of nature… I guess he knew all too well the “terrible” side of love – what it can blind you to, and how it can stop you from doing the right thing…

She’s always had this in mind in how she characterised him.

Wow, JK. Just wow.

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@Shalla – Jo doesn’t give all the information because she feels the need to do so. She does it because fans keep asking her questions about every minor detail (and I have to admit I still have a few questions open myself). So you shouldn’t be angry at Jo but at all the fans, who want to know that much ;c).

PS: excuse me for misspelling your name earlier.

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Aberforth isn’t zoophilic… goatasexual is the correct term I believe.. =)

ROTFL!!!

Did you notice how she had to laugh, asked the age of the questioner and then phrased an appropriate answer. I bet she was fully aware what the more adult audience had in mind, LOL.

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I was only commenting on the previously made assumption that all people in the Western hemisphere are American, and so also are homophobic. Both of which claims are ridiculous.

But I do agree Zee…people always want more than they can handle. Too much of a good thing, and all of that.

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coliemta, South America and Canada aren’t ‘across the pond’ from the US, it’s on the same side! But I don’t wanna get in a pointless argument.. so let’s talk about Dumbledore instead! I agree with your last point kybarsfang, been meaning to say something along those lines but couldn’t word it..

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emily – you are right. I didn’t think about that.

I always wondered if DD ever had loved someone (except parents and family). It definitely explains why he didn’t want to fight Grindelwald. AND it explains why he could understand Snape’s love for Lily.

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coliemta, okay saw your last comment.. not everyone in western hemisphere are homophobic and american… true. But is there even such thing as a western hemisphere? The world’s a globe which spins. One man’s west becomes another’s east if you keep on walking ..=)

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It was a reference to those across the pond from Europe…but agreed. But again, not so much on kybarsfang’s last point. The generalizing, again. Most of my freinds and family are straight, and while they don’t see life the way I do, I see no need to condemn them for it. Straights can show pride, once they learn to behave? Come on. Everyone is intolerant in this…including those gays who hate straight people, or assume that they all hate gays. Besides, Dumbledore was all for love.

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coliemta and DaveAlmighty – here (western Europe) we consider us “Western Hemisphere” or “Western World”, too. I grew up with the notion that “Eastern” is everything between the border to the communist states and the Pacific.

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And Dave…oh dear. The semantics are making me tired. :p

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I am so proud of Jo re: her comments on Dumbledore!!!!! Talk about bravery! I hope the conservatives are going crazy. I have a totally new level of respect for JKR. I agree, as others have voiced, that she is so insightful and truly “gets it”!

THANKS, JO! I applaude you! :)

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I agree with the comments on Dumbledores’ sexuality coming from left field. The only thing this revelation does is feed the writers who want to add to the series and give more fuel to the book-burning parties who already hated this wonderful series of books. If we get caught up in the sexuality of a character such as Dumbledore, we lose the focus of the books – Harry!

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Oh… I felt in the mood for a geography lesson. Uppy is north, but space has no gravity.. so if you turned the whole universe upside down, would it make any difference? So North, South, East, West… from now on we’ll call them all the same, and feel a bit of unity. You Americans, even the twisted f’d up americans, the australians, the african, the british, the ottomans, and everywhere in between, I love you all! So now, lets make a big fire and dance naked around it chanting. That’ll solve all our problems and intolerances and stuff.

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Jo has gone too far this time. Expect parents’ boycotting the HBP movie if not books-burning. Congrats Jo, you just ruined a great character with that stupid and unnecessary revelation.

Posted by Shocked_HP_fan on October 20, 2007 @ 07:05 AM

Jo believes in doing what is right, not what is easy. She doesn’t believe this ruins the character, just adds an extra dimension to the character, adds realism to the story, and above all, adds to the plea for tolerance that is a central theme in her books.

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johnboy, has JK hit a nerve by mentioning the ‘gay’ word, hm?

  • She’s IN THE MIDDLE OF A BOOK TOUR for goodness sakes. People are constantly asking her questions about the characters in the books so she’s answering them!
  • She had many notes that didn’t make it into the books for whatever reason so she was able to answer a lot of questions.
  • What the eff has political correctness got to do with it?
  • Do you think that she could only be “un-PC” if she made the books White only, Straight only, with no smart females characters? Would that have made you happier?
  • What bloody century are you living in? *And lastly, what exactly about JKR is ‘phoney’?

In layman’s terms, if you don’t like JKR or HP fandom, piss off and leave it to those of us who do!

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haha, Dave Almi, I’m sure someone will ultimately object to the flagrant inclusion of nudity in this celebration. Let’s go burn some books and spit on people.

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Oh, and kybarsfang’s last point?... about straight-pride parades. I think it’s valid. A gay-pride parade would all be about being happy and proud of who you are, not ashamed etc.. it wouldn’t be about casting aspersions on heterosexual people. Whereas a heterosexual parade, as a majority, there’s no chance it would ever be celebrated as purely pride in the norm, it WOULD be saying gay is wrong.

Heterosexuality which has been alive and evolved for billions of years suddenly having a parade for it. It’s the same as suddenly saying “Hmmm.. you know what, I’m gonna make a parade for the fact that I have ears. And everyone else who loves having ears too can come and dance in the street with me!”

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DaveAlmi – naked??? It’s freezing here!!! Even with a fire in front of me I would object ;c) Although I am all for solving intolerance problems.

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Homosexuality isn’t exacly a new thing either…

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Also, poor Gearge might not feel welcome at your Ear Pride celebration.

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Who would have thought! J.K. Rowling certainly is imaginative. – Eric Monse

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um..George, that is.

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Homosexuality exists since mankind exists. There are records as someone else mentioned about it in Greek history and even before that it can be traced. For those who consider it unddatural – it exists even with animals and everywhere else in nature. And no, I am not gay but still think everyone should be able to live as he or she pleases.

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Not all of us are dudes you know. Weird, how lesbianism is somehow less “gross” than male homosexuality.

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Wow. Just wow.

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I don’t suppose Sir Ian McKellan will now change his perspective on having already played the better of the two wizards, hm? Although clearly it’s far too late to oust Gambon now anyway.

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I hate to say it…but some Harry Potter fans are DEFINITELY Slytherins…in the bad way… :(

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Seriously, people fighting all over for their belief and ideology. History repeat itself, I guess. Suddenly it’s not about Harry Potter again, it’s not about Dumbledore anymore, it’s the greater issue at play here. Yep, the Gayness issue. And people who go on Hating-spree, complaining and bashing other people just because they dislike their “I’m okay with Dumbledore being gay”...please, look at yourself. Same thing must have happened during the witch-hunt era too.

I don’t care whether it’s right or not being gay, or if it’s normal vs Abnormal.

What gives you the right to judge something is right or wrong, normal or abnormal?

Who gives you the right to judge?

How could you be sure that something is absolutely true in this world?

You’re just a mere human, living in a planet called earth. Since the beginning of civillizations- dated back far far when our ancestors live in their primitive world-human had had tried to understand things about theirself, including sexuality. They have many questions, they’re looking for answers, defining thousands reasons and tried…and nothing a human civillization create would ever be absolutely perfect. because as human we’re imperfect.

And we’re living here now continuing our ancestors’ process of searching that absolute answer, in everything. Some getting so sure in the unabsolute answers which they find somewhere in their journey, that they start attacking others who hold different answers. This is how witch-hunt happened. this is how wars happen. This is how, we human, kill each others and hate each others. Just because they’re different from us. Just because others don’t hold the same unabsolute answer. This is how our ancestors hate each others and discriminate each other. This is how hatred borned.

Maybe human will never find it, the absolute answer. Maybe we or our descendants in far far away future can find it in the end. Maybe it is whoever create us in the first place, who will give out the absolute answer to our questions, at the end of the world.

Please people, remember that again. We as human, sometimes too proud with our civillization and ourself, that we sometimes forget how imperfect we’re. How fragile, how unabsolute everything in this world is. Stop feeling so rightful, too prideful, too arrogant, too sure in what you think is right or normal. And sometimes, really /look/ at around you and try to understand those who have different values and different ways of life. Maybe then, you will have new things to be added to your own knowledge. Maybe you will learn better to appreciate the various unabsoluteness we find in our searching for that absolute thing.

So thankyou for those who read my comment until this point. I’m not a native speaker so probably I have some wrong tenses, please bear with it. Americans have no right to judge my improper use of english, seeing how far astray they’re from the real Brittish language v(-)!

Peace, -lyrea.

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Shame on anyone who makes negative comments about gays-and JKR’s revelation regarding Dumbledore. Clearly, you’ve missed the point of her books: tolerance (and not even tolerance-ACCEPTANCE!) and love. Anyone who has anything negative to say about this is simply not worthy of the books, so please go ahead: don’t read them again; they’re above you, anyway. Shame on you.

You go, Jo!

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To me it does not add to or detract from the character in any way….it does however make me ask the question “Why?”.......She made some vague point about it giving the Religious Right another reason to hate the books (some fundamentalist Christian groups have denounced the series for “promoting witchcraft”)......it would appear that She derives a bit of pleasure out of prodding those who would presume to criticize….I don’t know…...seems a little sophomoric to me….

Really, I hadn’t spent any time thinking about the sexuality of any of the adult characters-—I didn’t see it as in any way relevant to the story. Now that I think about it, the only Hogwarts teachers who we know anything about in that area are Snape and Hagrid. This revelation, to me, will eventually lead to a soiling of the whole thing. Not AT ALL because of any anti-gay sentiment, but rather that it causes speculation that is not appropriate for the genre. What are the sexual predilections of McGonnigal, Flitwick, Sprout, Slughorn, Pomphrey, Hooch, Filch, Lockhart, not to mention those outside Hogwarts-Fudge, Shaklebolt, Black, even Voldemort. It seems everyone who teaches at Hogwarts in a single adult—-are they all simply unlucky in love, or is Hogwarts a haven for homosexuals?

I am a teacher, and though I don’t spend a single second wondering about the respective orientations of my colleagues, I do know that many of them are married or involved with someone, and a majority have lives outside the school. That does not seem to be the case with the Hogwarts faculty and staff.

So now its out there, and I think it causes more harm than good. It opens a door that not only was not open but many, I think, didn’t even realize was there-—it will inevitably become an open question about every character in the books. I just don’t see that as necessary at all. What’s next—do we question and whisper about the sexuality of Bilbo Baggins and Gandalf, of Aslan, Willy Wonka, and the Cowardly Lion? What about Brer Rabbit and Brer Fox, the Cat in the Hat, Dr. Doolittle, Barney the Dinosaur, and all 7 Dwarves? How about Bugs Bunny? Where does it end?

I don’t see the point in this at all. The Reverend Jerry Falwell once ignited a huge firestorm of controversy over the sexuality of Tinky Winky the Teletubby. Not one single person who heard about that was without an opinion—-they were either outraged, exultant, or they simply rolled their eyes in disgust and disappointment at what seemed to be a ridiculous and entirely unnecessary speculative argument over an otherwise entirely innocuous fictional children’s character that could not possibly exist. What on earth was the point of all that? Must our children’s fictional and literary characters have perfectly well-defined sexual orientations, or is it okay that Mr. Rogers and Captain Kangaroo lived alone? Can Bert and Ernie continue to share a flat without any eyebrow raising?

I am disappointed-—NOT BECAUSE DUMBLEDORE IS GAY--I really don’t care at all about that--I am disappointed that he is anything at all in that area. She has tried to make her characters as real as possible, but face it—they’re wizards, for crying out loud. They are all pretend. There’s nothing real about them. Why must this discussion take place?

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Bravo Lyrea…bravo…

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Shame on anyone who makes negative comments about gays - and JKR’s revelation regarding Dumbledore. Clearly, you’ve missed the point of her books: tolerance (and not even tolerance - ACCEPTANCE!) and love. Anyone who has anything negative to say about this is simply not worthy of the books, so please go ahead: don’t read them again; they’re above you, anyway. Shame on you.

You go, Jo!

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I always thought it was pretty obvious that Dumbledore and Grindelwald were gay lovers.

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this…is…AWESOME!

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@coliemta

I never said that hets can show pride for being het once they learn to behave. I said that they can’t really complain about queers showing them “bigotry” over Straight Pride until their Straight Pride parades and festivals and support groups and whatnot are about heterosexuals connecting and being proud to be heterosexual instead of gathering to rebel against the “unnatural gays” and show that heterosexuality is “normal” and “the only way to go” or whatnot. Please read my last post again for further emphasis on this point.

I know that not all people, regardless of orientation, are ignorant. My goal was not to generalize, but to instead point out to those claiming that they are being discriminated against by the GLBT community that they are not being discriminated against for being heterosexual, but instead jeered for their hateful and narrow-minded views. Granted, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I respect a person’s right to an opinion, but it doesn’t mean I have to agree with it.

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Mr_Bandman, it must go on, because it is a polarized issue. I agree, it seems to be going in circles, and probably always will. Women don’t earn as much as men in the same positions, racial minorities don’t have their equalities, and so on. As long as there is some question of two opinions, there will always be debate. That said, it is tiring, and I’m off. It’s been fun, or…something.

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Anyone else looking forward to The Colbert Report? We all know Stephen Colbert is a big potter fan…I cannot wait to see how this bit of news of DD being gay will be used to “infuriate” his right wing persona… :P

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YES YES YES!!! I knew it! This is SO cool! “D

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Is the Dumbledore-is-gay thing really this controversial? To me it’s still the Dumbledore he was in the books, what does it matter if someone is gay, straight, bi, no-sexual or whatever. Love is fo everybody.

How about the other things Rowling revealed? Petunia wishing Harry good luck haha! Neville and Hannah, that’s nice (and no, Rowling never said Luna and Neville were together!)

And Dudley having kids! Wow!

Her comment on Aberforth haha! Nobody who thinks that’s a bit controversial?

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Ooooh yeah Dumbly you are my babe i am so glad you are at peace now i remember all those love tomes we had together i hope we will meet in heaven and have more xxxxx

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@ DracoDaDeatheater

Ha ha! I watch both Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert…. You’re right! I can’t wait to see what Stephen will say about this… I never thought I’d actually find myself looking forward to a Monday! :)

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Hmm. dumbledoreisnotgay.com anyone?

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I said last night that my Grandad is gay. I know there have been a billion post since but some stupid person named “what?” asked how I got here. Well I got her because when my grandad was young there were a lot of people like some of you who thought gay people were sick or evil and he didn’t want to be made fun of or even beat up. So he got married and had 3 kids. But he wasn’t really happy and finally when my Dad was in high school he told my Gran. She says she kinda always knew. Anyway they got a divorce and my Dad and my aunt stayed with my Gran. My other aunt was already married. My Dad was really mad for awhile, he says mostly because Grandad moved pretty far away. They used to not get along so well but now they are friends and my Grandad is great. He lives near us now and he is no different than any of my friends grandfathers. It really makes me mad when you people say all these awful things about gay people. I’m so glad Jo made Dumbledore gay. Everyone who says he was just like a grandfather, well now he really is just like MY grandfather

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Hmmm. why are lesbians looked upon as ‘less gross’ than gay men? I think it’s because women are more sanitary in general.. and in this (unfortunately) male dominated society, it goes by well, because men generally like to see it (coz they’re all perverts… and that’s a generalisation I’m perfectly happy to make)..

(P.S. People stop calling me Dave Almi, it’s Dave Almighty!! Now you may kiss my ring. Peace be with you).

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I didn’t think it was possible for me to love JKR even more!!!

Neville (my favorite character) does marry…now I can die a happy woman!!!

And Dumbledore in love with Grindewald??? OH YEAH!!!

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well i would just like to say im am a bookstore owner in a small community and i have just organized a book burning.so far i have over 100 confirmed particapants.i am soooo happy our community has come together and decided that this type of trash is finally being put out to the curb.for my part i am taking a loss on over 100 different books(very happily)cant wait for the bi event.email me if you want to organize your own event…..

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I WAS THERE!!!!!!!

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DaveAlmighty – I used that shortened form because it was in the signature under one post I replied to.

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Lol…good…you burn those books…naturally you’re still making the author rich since you need to BUY them before you can burn them. And I am so happy that you’ll be losing a big batch of profits from your current stock (as well as any future business…since people will always find another store or buy it online). I hope that you don’t mind that the rest of us laugh at you. :D

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I can’t believe that this argument is happening. Or really, I can’t believe that I’m reading it.

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“well i would just like to say im am a bookstore owner in a small community and i have”

This is probably some idiot trying to be funny but moderators need to get this off here! It is clearly hate-filled and has no place in this discussion

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How can people say “I don’t have anything against gay folks” while saying the fact dumbledores gay is “wrong” and makes you sick? Hypercritical much?

While I am so glad JK told us this info, its just because it makes DD so more relatable. Its fights against sterotypes, and adds even more deph to his chracter.

It doesn’t change him form being an inspirational character, or a great mentor to Harry, being gay does not mean he would hit on every boy he comes across of! It doesn’t change my view of him at all, he’s still a hero to me.

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Also haha you paid for those books already and there’s nothing you can do about it suckers.

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Thanks so much JKR for giving kids (and adults!) such a great role model and then saying he was gay. I hope that this will shake things up a bit and maybe open a few people’s minds.

And for all the people that are moaning that some (not all) Christians and conservatives etc will have another reason to bash HP…. if they want to be that narrow-minded then that is THEIR problem. Thankfully they are a dying breed.

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People who burn books are complete idiots, it really makes me laugh.I don’t know what burning books will accomplish anyway. Also, it’s really bad for the environment as it releases CO2 into the atmosphere.

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Does anyone actually believe this article is legitimate? In the Q & A section, the way the answers are phrased is not at all consistent with JKR’s style. The grammar is bad for one thing, and I seriously doubt she would make the implications about the goat that were suggested in the article… especially when answering an 8 year old. It was not very well masked.

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hannah97, I wish you’d post that story on every page of this thread until the homophobes got the message! What a lovely story. I’m so glad everything turned out well for your family. :)

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Is this the reason why Gilderoy Lockhart finally got the Dada post in book two? Because he had got blue eyes and long golden curls? Oh dear. While he asked for the job DD got a boner I assume. Still laughing!

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LOL. That’s actually an excellent point. Someone should ask JKR about that one.

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I think this fits well into the theme of the books and into dumbledore’s character, now you can sympathize with the fact that his vision with grindewald may have been clouded by love. THe only negative thing about this is that I’m scared of the incoming millions of Harry/Dumbledore Fics… PS Congrats to Neville

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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss! I knew it! Je t’adore Jo!!!!

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Well, there’s a girl that’s thinking about burning books from every possible angle! It does indeed release CO2 into the atmosphere… and you know what, the smoke will make passers-by cough, and they might die. And the fire from the burning books could spread to that burrow of friendly wild kittens next door. DON’T BURN BOOKS, or you might kill a kitten. Kitten killer.

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Wow what a bizarre move from Rowling. I’d really rather have gone on thinking of Dumbledore as sort of an asexual grandfathery figure. I don’t want to find out he’s gay anymore than id want to find out that Santa Claus is gay – or for that matter enganged in any other sexual congress, gay or otherwise.

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OMG, Santa Claus is gay!!! Is that why he climbs down my chimney every christmas?

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A “move” she made?

It seems to me that she planned it from the beginning- from his high heeled boots to his cutesy crush on Grindlewald that summer…

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@LOL. That’s actually an excellent point. Someone should ask JKR about that one. Posted by MattyJM on October 20, 2007 @ 08:58 AM

Thank you!

Snape was right to hide in the dungeon and to wear greasy hair. He had to protect himself against sexual assaults from DD. Still laughing!

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¬_¬ Your not being serious right?

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THIS IS A LOAD OF RUBBISH AND I THINK IT HAS BEEN MADE UP BUT IF IT HAS’NT IT IS REALY DISAPOINTING NO OFFENCE, THIS IS VERY DISSAPOINTING TO HEAR (I AM VERY ANOYED)

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In a previous post, someone wrote: “Despite what THEY tell you, you don’t decide to be gay. It is NOT a choice”. I do not agree at all, being GAY is a choice!

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Somehow I knew. I kind of always knew. I always had the urge to write a Dumbledore as a teen fic and I always mentally paired him with Grindelwald in my mind, even though I had been planning to have him married with kids, it just seemed more appropriate to be with Grindy.

Hm, never did write that fic. I think I’d like JKR to write that story. The whole childhood and growing up of Albus. That would be sweet!

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Go Jo!

It really explains why dumbledore was so blind when it came to grindewald. He was just in love! It also gives more depth in the character of dumbledore, makes him more human. =) Really like this news, and i think it was very cool of Jo to tell us this after the series ended. And not in the books itself, beacause i think that the image of Dumbledore would chance completly for some readers.. You know a powerfull character that has a mentor role and suddenly was gay.. i dunno.. Its better that Jo tolds us this afterwards. Owh and when i readed that their was a ovation when she told us this I wanted to cheer too. =D Personally dumbledore character hasn’t chanced for me, he is stil a great character, and he allways will be. ^^

ps: owh imagine all the fanfiction now. hehe lol, all the minervra/albus shippers. I never liked that ship

Again go Jo!

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I read some. the pairing works really well. Its angsty and full of turmoil. But so flippin sweet.

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yes i am taking a loss,but its well worth it.also i could not be happier about the wonderful support i have recieved in my community.we will be serving hot coffee and these wonderful desserts my wife has been making.were going to have face painting for the kids and everything.i have even recieved word from our parish priest that he will be speaking at the book burning.so he can help explain that being a gay person is immoral and discusting.like i said we have a lot of support.even though we did all pay for these books,we did so before the so called author made this silly announcement.we are even letting the kids roast marshmallows over the fire.woooo hoooo gonna be fun

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“In a previous post, someone wrote: “Despite what THEY tell you, you don’t decide to be gay. It is NOT a choice”. I do not agree at all, being GAY is a choice!”

Well Twocents, you are wrong. Remaining misinformed and ignorant is a choice. Being or not being gay is not.

Are you saying you sat up one morning and said but jinkums I’m going to be a hetty-sexual person??? (assuming you are and since you apparently don’t like gay people and can choose I would guess you choose straight) Can’t choose one and not the other since gay and straight are just the two ends of one line of sexuality

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Another controversial revelation. Dumbledore is gay?C’mon men and boys of Hogwarts out of the closet: who else? And what does it matter now? Does not make a difference to the story’s outcome. Just increases the interest in the books and the franchise, in other words: extra hype from the creator herself,as this could have been revealed in the story all along already.

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But in a cute way….

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WoW. 20 pages of posts. I would count that, of 20 pages, at least 19 1/2 are positive t’word Dumbledore. I am thrilled, beyond belief! I am also troubled, by one or two. Mostly at ‘not a fag’...I don’t believe, for one second, that Dumbledore “had a gay lover”. Just because he is “gay” doesn’t mean that he’s out to “come on” to every male he comes in contact with. NO, that’s not “why Lockhart got the job” He didn’t “come on” to Harry. I will never understand the “mentality” that believes that “homosexuals” recruit and go after children. Wake up, ladies and gentlemen. If there’s anything that the Harry Potter Series teaches ALLL of us, it’s tolerance. From beliefs to personal flaws (if that is a flaw….I don’t believe that it is)I am not “gay”. I am not a man. I have “gay” friends. My son’s Godfather is “gay”. If this man was a “harm” to my son, do you think I would put him in such a position? NO. Everyone has the potential to be a threat.Book burning is a threat. I hope this doesn’t engender a new generation of intolerance. Thank you, JKR, for giving children AND adults, the chance to be tolerant of others. That others, no matter what, have feelings.

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Dave ALmighty, how did you know I was a girl hehe! and yes, excellent point, think of the kittens lol!

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Mrs. Jo will go, don´t worry Sanne.

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Shut up “haha” =P _

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@ haha

I never said i wanted Jo to go away ‘haha’. o.O I think its great what Jo did and i think that you should grow up.

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To people saying “Why did we need to know that”—well, honestly, if someone asked, someone wanted to know. Was she supposed to lie/not answer just to avoid stepping on toes? If you don’t want to know, don’t read the answer, kinda simple imho…

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@Sanne, it´s o.k. Mrs. Jo is your tin god, I accept this.

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Well, now I know why I thought Ian McKellan would be an awesome choice to play him! I always wondered as he never married and there was never any allusion to him having a relationship … until book 7. And the purple velvet suit he wore to meet Tom Riddle the first time? Oh yeah – and with great style and panache!

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I KNEW IT!! Woohoo! SO HAPPY!

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Well, this exploded rather quickly…

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Why are you under the impression that she hasn’t “engaged her brain”??? She appears to have given it enough thought if you read the transcript…

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I think you’ll find it is… =P

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To the person who says being gay is a choice.

I- am gay! Not to parade it around on this forum, because I never had ,but I am. Its not a choice. I was raised in a Christian family. I fought against it in my head for many years. I tried to -cure myself many times, and it didn’t happen.

Being gay, like being straight, happens. Its normal. Its like breathing. You can’t stop it, anymore than you can stop this planet from existing.

But burning a book over it is ludicrous. This is what dictatorships do to try and control the people. Censorship is a tool of evil, and instrument of evil, and should be wiped out. Free speech means having the right to buy any book we choose and not be penalized for it. In many countries you can be murdered for being female, for being gay, for having religion. And in this country? People are burning the Harry Potter books.

Its sick. . And yeah, that guy is a troll and needs to be quiet now.

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Ooopos, didn’t know that – underlined things. o.o I meant it as italics

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According to a friend of mine on another message board type website, J.k said it in a sense that she thought Dumbledore was gay, she also mentioned Gellert Grindelwald at some point, but, who knows, and furhtermore, who cares if he’s gay!

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I think it was a non-issue thru he books for a few reasons … A) the series really started as children’s fiction, sexuality has little to no place there B) if it was there or loudly alluded to I think the publishers’ editors would’ve nixed the references because it was a children’s series and C) it truly is a non-issue; what does anyone’s sexuality have to do with their goodness or competence??? Nothing.

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Well, I never saw it coming. It seems to be more of a gratuitous attempt to please those who think gay = cool than what she really intended while she was writing the books. Though of course, only she knows.

If his being gay was actually important, I am curious as to why it only is revealed now, months after the final story hit the market?

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Cannot believe an otherwise intelligent woman saw fit to add a sexual element to these books. I’m as PO’d as I would be if she came out and said Arthur Weasley was secretly sleeping with a witch at the MoM… As far as I’m concerned, we were having a party, and JKR just pooped in the punchbowl…

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@haha

seriously, where is that good for? Jo is not my tin god or whatever. I think Jo is a great writer, and the way she told us this news is great. I’m sorry if you misunderstood me, thats my fault, english is not my first launguage. But you dont have to command like that, i think. if you cant say something nice at all ‘haha’ please just stay quiet.

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Dumbledore gay! Call me homophobic if you want but I am extremely disappointed in Rowling. I guess now Hollywood will play this up in the remaining films and make them unwatchable… You can spin it anyway you want, but gay is about sex and this news has cast a huge shadow on what was a delightful series of children’s books.

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i Meant ” I think you’ll find it Isn’t”

Erk. this idiocity is making me type nonsense.

Yay Grindledore!!!!

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people need to stop thinking these are books only for children

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Het is also about sex _

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You’ve missed the point…this is NOT part of the books…as anyone whos read book 7 knows…did u sense it at all as you read the book?

This is a side note for hardcore fans who are curious as to the full background of DD…the only reason everyones gonna make a big deal out of this is because the conservative christians will most likely make a huge thing out of it…saying DD being gay will turn kids gay.

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grindledore lol! love it

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James: Problem is, JKR is not American. How could she guess this would happen? In Europe nobody could care less.

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@sanne. I can be very polite. But I don not like if someone tells me to shut up. English is not my first language either. Okay, I will be friendly towards you, alright?

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I don not like it if someone does not tolerate dumbledore being gay. I hate “hate”

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Jo rocks! My Gaydar went off when Dumbledore’s relationship with Grindelwald was revealed, but I figured it was probably just wishful thinking. It makes so much sense in retrospect! There IS too little love in the world … and it’s sad that Dumbledore’s was given to someone who went so wrong. It really adds a tragic element to his character.

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is this necessary?

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Saying DD is gay does not mean to introduce sex to the books. That is utter nonsense. I only means that he fell in love with a man. She didn’t even say that Grindelwald returned the love.

It is really interesting what happens in th head of those who dislike this information or dislike gays. I really wonder…

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You may not realize it, but “hating” what you term as “hate” is also a form of intolerance…

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Me too KneazleKeeper!!!

man, Our literary gaydar’s rawk.

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You may not realize it, but “hating” what you term as “hate” is also a form of intolerance…

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I know…

I can’t tolerate intolerance. Its so tragic.

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Wow, I have NEVER seen this many comments on Leaky before, not for the book title, the book date’s release, etc. I saw the headline on MSN, and I thought that she would reveal Sirius to be gay, not Dumbledore…it makes sense, but DUMBLEDORE? This changes everything. I don’t have a problem with it, but it’s just a strange piece of news to wake up to in the morning…

And the Neville/Hannah thing? When have they even TALKED together in the books?

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To everyone who think that it was unnecessary for her to reveal Dumbledore’s sexual orientation: She couldn’t have answered the question truthfully if she hadn’t talk about the gay part… Would you rather have Jo lie to her fans?

I love the fact that he’s gay and I’m not really that surprised…

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You will have to excuse some of the people who make unreasonable assumptions about what it is to be gay. Some people are not privy to higher education and thus have to rely on what they have been taught by their families and/or communities (including parishes). These days any boob can access the internet to spout off their (lack of) knowledge…

Like being Gay is all about perverted sex…nothing about love…I have a friend who are a gay couple raising 2 beautiful girls…and they are the most well mannered, hard working and smart kids I have EVER met (who both are huge potter fans too). Quite frankly…I think this revelation about DD will make them feel elated that their favourite headmaster is gay and that theres nothing wrong with having 2 mum’s.

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Thank you, DracoDaDeatheater! Living in the “bible belt”, as I do, it’s refreshing to hear someone say things in an educated manner.

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I THINK IT EXPLAINS THE SIGNIFICANCE WITH LILY’S MISSING ONE PAGE OF THE LETTER THAT SAYS ’...FRIENDS WITH GRINDELWALD’.

SORRY FOR THE CAPS XD

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So so sososo cool… His relationship with Grindelwald did seem more eerie than it should :D (this could be scary for kids though)

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1st, Yea! For JK, I think the fact that she can write everyone is great. AD is just THAT much more complex, and complex characters are more real.

2nd, could some of the fans in here be more hypocritical, after all the trash and backlash JK withstood for writing a book with witches and magic and we all stood by then, posting about tolerance and such why does one of the characters being gay suddenly turn you off, get over yourself the world isn’t one big happy heterosexual place some of the characters were bound to be gay, just like the REAL world.

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LOL. I laugh every time a hetero says that being queer is a choice. Like they would know. XD

But anyhoo, I’m really glad to see an overwhelming majority in these comments supporting the news. Now, if only JKR would explain why Hermione was written as a strong, confident, intelligent, powerful woman who crumbled into tears anytime the wind blew the wrong way. >_>

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Do we need to know that he is gay? I love the Harry Potter books, but I don’t agree with revealing this portion of Dumbledore’s sexual orientation. These are CHILDREN books, so I think it was quite unnecessary to reveal it. Seriously what are we offering of value to kids if we dump on them sexual orientation? Glad to know it wasn’t mentioned in the book, merely an underlying idea and theme of JK.

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Wow! So Neville turned out to be straight ! But what’s the point of revealing that?! It’s so disgusting! Now kids who are reading Harry Potter are going to grow up straight!

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The kid who asked the question needed the question answered I guess…

You wouldn’t be worried if Gridlewald had been a female…

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I can’t believe this. It seems as though it is a publicity stunt. Who cares about his sexuality. All this is doing is getting her support from the Gay community. That kind of info has no bearing on the book, therefore, there is no reason that it needed to revealed.

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WHY DO YOU GIVE THIS INFORMATION IN THE TITLE OF THE REPORT????? IT’S AN SPOILER FOR ALL THOSE FOREIGN PEOPLE THAT VISIT YOU AND AREN’T BE ABLE TO READ THE BOOK YET IN THEIR LANGUAGES!!!!

ANYWAY, I THINK IT IS PATHETIC TO KNOW THAT DUMBLEDORE IS GAY. BUAGH! WHAT ARE JO THINKING ABOUT? STUPID! SHE HAS JUST ARRUINE THE SERIES. EXECRABLE!

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It has a slight bearing. Dumbledroe is a huge character in the books. To understand his character fully we need to know why he supported anti muggle agendas-

We have our answer – he was blinded hy how wonderful and clever Grindlewald was. Head over heels in fact. it makes him easily forgiven and more human after book 7.

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I’m freakin disgusted now…......I don’t even have words b/c when I first saw the Headline Dumbledore is Gay…. I was like “What,huh” that’s a joke right? But then when I read the article and knew it was true. I started crying b/c i was shocked,disappointed,confused,betrayed….Almost every emotion i could feel at that point. I Just can’t believe this. I mean DUMBLEDORE gay? Our beloved headmaster our wise,gentle,caring Dumbledore. Like my favorite character…. How? How? AND he was in love with Grindelwald? I mean… Now that i think about it he could have even secretly loved Harry….... I mean those looks tht Harry described as feeling like you were being x-rayed don’t even sound legitimate now. And when DD said “I cared about you too much” and all that other stuff that sounds creepy now. I mean…. Damn… I just don’t know if I even like the books anymore. How could Jo do this to us? After the sadness all of us HP fans have went through with the end of Harry Potter. How could she drop this bombshell on us….. Making some who feel like me not even know whether they like the books anymore. I’m telling myself not to let just that destroy my love for the books. But it’s hard not too. Sadly, A disappointed HP fan

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To those who say that this is “too much information” about Dumbledore, and that “we don’t need to know his sexual orientation”....we know every other character’s orientation! With that line of thinking, every relationship we have learned about from HP is “TMI.”

Go JKR! Adopting a greyhound, and having Dumbledore come out, all in the same month. What a wonderful woman.

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why are so many people saying that it wasn’t necessary to know that dumbledore was gay and fell in love with grindewald? why don’t they also say it wasn’t necessary to know that neville is straight and falls in love with hannah?

where’s the difference?

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Calm down.

If this should teach you anything, it should teach you how wrong you are about Homosexuality.

Someone like Jo- a clever wonderful person who gave us our HP books. would she honestly stand for anything immoral? No. she is the figurehead- the pinnacle for tolerence of all types of people. You can never have been a proper HP fan if you didn’t understand that the underlying theme of the books was tolerance…

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The more I think about it the less shocked I am. Given the depth of the series, I think it makes sense actually. It kind of fits with the greek philosophers like Plato and Socrates, for Dumbledore to be gay. On the other hand, I am glad that Jo stuck to Harry’s story and didn’t get sidetracked when writing the books.

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Wow. She did not write Dumbledore as homosexual or heterosexual so this is an interesting comment. After Deathly Hallows I looked at DD as being to narcissistic to have love for anyone in his early years. After the devastation of his family I viewed him as feeling like he isn’t worth of love. Personally I could have dealt without this revelation but this is Jo’s world and she can do what she wants, I just get to visit it.

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Totally agree with you, Sad HP fan. You have explained exactly what I’m feeling right now. I’m another very, very, very disappointed HP fan.

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The fact that Dumbledore is gay doesn’t bother me at all. (I find it quite horrible that people suddenly think he’ll “come onto” Harry just because he’s gay) Dumbledore is still Dumbledore, and him being staright or gay really isn’t a big deal.

That said, I don’t feel as if I need to know everything about every character (dumbledore being gay, neville and hannah, who marries whom and so on). The last book has been written, so why can’t JK Rowling just leave it at that?

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Oh, and tell me this isn’t going to turn the fire up that drives that lady in Georgia to try and get the books out of kids library’s. What’s her name, Malory?

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You…actually started crying? Why can’t someone be wise, caring, and gentle and still be attracted to guys? People, please get this correct: DUMBLEDORE WAS NOT A PEDOPHILE! Just because a man likes men doesn’t mean that he likes boys, y’know? He was a human, just like anyone here. He was a great mentor to his students, had terrible luck picking out jellybeans, and had an unrequited crush on his friend when he was young. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that!

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I think the moderator needs to end this discussion now….it’s evolved into something not-fun anymore. And people start to show their color….you’re represented by your writing style in Internet. It’s scary how people sometimes think that in internet they’re protected from prying eyes so they could satisfy their needs for “being impolite, uneducated, wild, rough person” which is free from the need of etiquette. Bad news….your personal information could be monitored easily by hackers through your IP address…you’re not as invisible as you’d like to think in the Internet world. Stop using big letters and scream.

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Personally, I am proud of Jo for doing this. I think she’s sending a wonderful and triumphant message to children. It’s so sad that today parents still brainwash their kids with messages of hate toward the gay community, african-american community, etc. Maybe now, these future generations will be taught, through Jo’s influence, that being any type of sexual orientation isn’t something to be afraid of…but to embrace with acceptance. And, hopefully, this will be something they teach their children as well.

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Im reading people who dont understand why people would have preferred no mention of DD’s sexual preferences one way or another – My question is, what is with all the people who are “SO HAPPY!” with the news? Isn’t this a form of reverse prejudice to want DD to be gay? I can just imagine the response if there were a bunch of posts expressing joy and relief at Neville being straight.

The cynics have it right, there was no need to throw this one out there – gay or straight, it’s more like a political hobbyhorse of the author than anything canonical for a story. I mean would you want to find out that Dumbledore voted for one political party or another, or felt ways about certain real world issues? Maybe he really loves dogs and hates cats or vice versa. I think he would have been best left as he was rather than weird-out/alienate his fans.

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Also, on Neville, he probably met Hannah in Herbology, because they always had it with the Hufflepuffs.

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“Happy” because now all the haters know.

As a slash fan i had no idea whether Jo was prejudiced or not. (it didn’t stop me from loving the books) but it was a worry. Now im happy shes as wonderful as everyone always her made out to be.

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i have changed my mind i think it is good that dumbledore is gay in a way although i am not gay myself it still does not change the way i feel about dumbledore being my favourite charecter GO JO!!!!!!!!!

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Sad HP fan’s response is a CLASSIC example of what can happen when you are fed misinformation by your families and/or communities…

A child’s joy can be crushed when parents tell them that ALL gay people are sexual deviants and paedophiles.

When I see misguided people like this…it breaks my heart because its not their fault…its what they were taught and made to believe by their families, communities and church.

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To the poster who wrote:

“why are so many people saying that it wasn’t necessary to know that dumbledore was gay and fell in love with grindewald? why don’t they also say it wasn’t necessary to know that neville is straight and falls in love with hannah?”

It’s not so much finding out that someone is gay that bothers me, its any sort of revelation of sexuality in Dumbledore. I don’t want to hear about old people and sex at the best of times, much less a grandfathery, Father Christmas-like figure such as Albus DD. I’d have been fine to discover Neville was gay or Hagrid was gay, but it’s just creepy for DD. It wouldnt have to be gay revelations to make it creepy either. You could find out DD was into wife swapping or bondage and it woulds till be more than id want to know.

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DracoDaDeatheater, you’re so right. A child would say a color black is “white” if he is taught since the beginning that its name is “white” and vice versa. I think this is why we shouldn’t be too rightfull in our belief over an issue, there is a too wide gray area in real life. Glad to see some people could debate in logical way.

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¬_¬ he was 17 when he fell in love with Grindlewald…

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Now that bit was a definite surprise—I’d never expect J.K. Rowling to do that, but the revelation will certainly bring in more GLBT fans and definitely gives a new slant to the final two films and the entire book series. I wonder what Gambon will think once he hears about his character being out.

Yeah, I can’t imagine the furor that this revelation will bring, but I do think it will affect the success of the movie adaptations of “Half-Blood Prince” and “Deathly Hallows”

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  • SPoiler Warning on DH, StarWars, Usual Suspects ***

“Biggest revelation of the night” – More like the biggest revelation of the decade!!! I think a lot of people would have had coffee splurted on their morning newspaper or pet dog this morning. Forget Snape was in love with Lily, or Darth Vader is Luke’s father, or Keyser Soze is Kevin Spacey. Dumbledore is gay and that is straight from the horses mouth.

This is soo big, its hit the front page on BBC website. At first i have to admit that when I saw the headline, I thought they were referring to the actor Michael Gambon because they had his picture with the article and worse, I thought JK was naughtily revealing his sexuality against his wishes!! But on reading the article further, my jaw dropped at the true revelation…

...And it is quite frankly a superb revelation. Very fitting on reflection now on Dumbledore’s story in book 7.

As a straight guy, i have no problem with this – it just makes the wizarding world all that more real.

Some gay folks are disappointed this was not made clearer in the books but I disagree. Clues were given but JK may have felt it would detract from the main story.

There is no reason however, to incorporate the suggestion further in Movie 7 ;)

Wow, just when we were despairing at the lack of any revelations from JKs tour…

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Happy?- She mentioned nothing about sex. From what we know, he fell in love with Gellet for a summer, and then lived with the tragedy of his betrayl for the rest of his life. She never actually mentioned sex.

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OMG!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!! I just didn’t see that coming!!!! GAY??? who would of thought it!!!!! I can’t believe it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!

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And Happy?, old people used to be young too, you know, their knowledge can be useful for the younger generation. You and me too, someday will be old. Stop being discriminating against old people.

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“I wonder what Gambon will think once he hears about his character being out.”

Well, Gambon thinks there is no subtext to Harry Potter, so they might have to put it explicitly in the script or he’ll just play himself.

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“There is no reason however, to incorporate the suggestion further in Movie 7”

- I meant to say quite the opposite! So I will rephrase – “However, I dont see why they cant incorporate the suggestion of Dumbeledore being gay in Movie 7” ;)

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Hey!!!1

lol LOOK at the people at Grindledore on livejournal. they’‘re so freaking happy:

http://community.livejournal.com/grindeldore/26059.html

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I read about DD, and so much just fell into place.

Look at the outfit he wore to the orphanage when meeting Tom Riddle. It’s perfect!

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To all the people posting positive comments about Jo, thank you for making me smile =) I’m reassured that the majority of HP fans are tolerant, loving people!

To the foreign reader somewhere above- yeah, that was a bad move of TLC to post about Neville in the headline as now people who haven’t read DH know that he makes it through! Eek =S

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I’ve had my fill of intelligent discussion…time to get on with real life…glad to see that most of us here are smart enough to realize that being Gay is not how some would portray it to be…

My drummer is vacationing in Europe at the moment…I wanted to tell her about DD being gay since our band is partially Harry Potter influenced (and based in San Francisco). She’ll probably hear it over there somewhere since its on BBC news already…maybe we’ll write a song about it xD

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Her books are about are not about tolerance. Rowling is Gryffindor biased and discriminates other houses. She is a liar and never had the intention to picture the students of all 4 houses as equal people. She is indeed a false prophet.

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Professor Potter- I think it does add a new layer to the relationship between DD and GG, but they may shy away given their desire not to challenge the movie audience to think. They have played to the lowest common denominator in all the movies, I doubt that they will take on a controversial subject like this.

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that totally blows my mind. and in a good way, i know. i don’t luv Professor Dumbledore any less, nosiree. i even respect him more. gad, indeed, love is love is love is love.

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To someone’s previous comment, I think by the time the 6th movie is released, the whole gay Dumbledore topic will be way past most people’s heads and those who are still on about it because of their homophobia will probably have moved onto something else to gossip over and display their hatred. In conclusion, I don’t think this will determine the success of the films. Don’t forget, this is still Harry Potter. And who doesn’t love that? :)

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The whole thing just comes over as forced.

I mean, Dumbledore never gave off any sort of gay vibe throughout the series. If anyone would turn out to be gay I would have thought it was Tom Riddle – he certainly seemed that way in his portrayal in the movie version of Chamber of Secrets.

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hmm. true i did not like how she treated slytherins. maybe she hated them for their prejudice;

maybe she can’t tolerate intolerance either. but my poor slytherin chicks… :(

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And for the comments about this being a children’s series: there is a lot of death and some nudity in these books. It’s not exactly Bernstein Bears here.

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“You may not realize it, but ‘hating’ what you term as ‘hate’ is also a form of intolerance…”

Having intolerance for someone who is different and having intolerance for hate are two very different matters. Prejudice is a form of hate, and to have an intolerance for hate is to also condemn prejudice. As for the controversy regarding the gay community and Dumbledore’s opinion: he would have been happier than anybody to think that there was a little more love in the world.

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Happy?- he never gave off a straight vibe either! There’s more in the books to suggest he’s gay than straight.

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and oh, yes, i luv you, Jo. for the continuing luv and surprises and joy. you and Harry Potter will stay with us forever. =)

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So much wonderful philosophy…

I could cry from happiness

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I really don’t know- you could have booed all you want, no-one would hear over the cheering =)

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I find it very hard to believe that Dumbledore is gay. I have read every book and scene all the movies to date and I just don’t see any evidence of that at all. Just because he is so caught up on love doesn’t mean he’s gay and just because he was obsorbed in the Deathly Hallows doesn’t mean he was either; that’s just plain out obsession. Hasn’t anyone ever been so obsessed with something they had to have it? Haven’t you been so in love with someone that it hurt to talk about it? If Dumbledore is in fact gay, then my personal opinion of JK Rowling, though a fabulous writer, just went down the tubes. As an educator, by her releasing that statement what is she saying to her millions of children readers when it wasn’t evident in the story?????

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Maybe he’s

Grindlewald-sexual

unrequited like with snape and lilly

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I guess what I’m really trying to say is that I wish I hadn’t read it, considering I’m 10.

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The question that’s now going to be on everyone’s lips is Did Dumbledore have a gay relationship with Tom Riddle while he was a student. There was much to suggest a sort of estrangement there from some encounter in times gone by. Perhaps Riddle reached out to DD and he spurned his advances? Why is Dumbledore the only man Voldemort feared? Perhaps it wasn’t Dumbledore’s power that fightened him but what Dumbledore could reveal about him. The snake affinity all makes sense now.

Rowling sure set the cat amongst the pigeons with this one!

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No

Dumbledore was still hung up over Gellert. I think anyway…

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I suppose that explains why it took so long for him to defeat Grindelwald, bless him. He really didn’t want to!

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I could have and would have, Becca.

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Well I just have to say that was totally unneeded. That has just runied all of the books for me. I am never going to be able to read them without thinking of that, and that is not a good thing. That was completely unnecesary. Boo to Jo.

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Go ahead- i makes no difference to anyone else… :( But i wish you weren’t so quick to judge…

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Thanks so much for keeping us informed about Ms. Rowling’s recent readings. As an over-the-hill fan (over 60), I appreciate all the Leaky Cauldron fans comments. I was thrilled about these comments on the other characters, but I was really crushed that Dumbledore was gay. I had not even considered that. I thought that Dudley Dursley was gay because of the horrible things the Dementors made him think of during the attack in Book 5.

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Well, I guess I got my share on this issue too. I’d better go back and have a touch with real life. Glad to see some people with etiquette and could debate in educated manners.

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Why so much praise? She’d deserve it if she actually had the courage to stick to her artistic vision and include some mention of his love for Grindie in the actual book.

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ok, gonna take a step away from the crazy and say this, though I’m sure it’s been thought of already but…

SUE!! A Hufflepuff runs the Leaky Cauldron!! You did it, lol. Hufflepuff PRIDE.

On the Neville/Hannah randomness, I think it is fitting. A lot of people end up falling in love with people they knew in school, but not that well until later in life. Not everyone is a Ron/Hermione.

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haha All this is fantastic. I knew there had to be at least one gay character in HP, without stereotype!

But I mean, I know JKR can probably afford everything- but there are people who will hear this and be completely ignorant of the books because of it! I hope this doesn’t get too complicated with the bigger media. People will be stressing something that doesn’t really matter if it does start widespreading like a Fiend-Fyre. Sometimes lines like this get everyone in a frenzy (just look at the range of opinions on here!). Love you Jo!!

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for those who worry about Gambons take on this: He explicitely said that he didn’t read the books and he won’t give much on news like this. He said he played his role according to the script and that was that. That’s why I would prefer someone else to play him and he never fit with my picture of DD.

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I really saw this coming.. After I finished the seventh book, I think one of the first things I said to my mom was, “So, Dumbledore’s gay, then?” That being said, I am THRILLLLLED that JK has officially confirmed my suspicions! It’s adds so much depth do Dumbledore as a character, and to the series as a whole, in my opinion. And besides that, it really is awesome that such a mindbogglingly important character is gay.

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Oh my gosh! I think this is great! wait to go! This shows people that gay people can be wise and wonderfull too. I do not think this says “be gay because DD is” I think it says “Its ok to be gay” WAIT TO GO JKR

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@disgusted

you might want to learn to speak english before you start spouting nonsense…according to the quote you pasted…it said most of the civilized world…it did not say that Europe and NA is the ONLY civilized world. Good god…the level of education of some of these people is abhorrent.

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Hey Mrs. Lovegood -

I think the problem with quoting 1 Corinthians is you’re quoting a new testament source from Paul. You’re not quoting the laws of Leviticus, and you’re quoting someone who never was around Jesus or God.

Is there any place where God or Jesus says homosexuality is wrong? I haven’t studied my bible in a long time, so I may very well be forgetting where, but I don’t remember any.

Furthermore, as someone else satirized a bit earlier, there’s many good reasons why taking any quote from the bible can be used to support many behaviors we no longer find relevant. If you’re going to live according to the bible, please do be consistent.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/drlaura.asp

Thanks.

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I have to agree with a previous comment that this revelation has disappointed some readers, esp younger ones who haven’t formed clear ideas about sexuality. When you are young you tend to have conservative ideas about pretty much anything; it is later that you come to understand things about homosexuality (mind you, there are people who never actually mature enough to comprehend differences of other people on this aspect.)

As for me, because I’m an adult, the information comes as no surprise. I can’t say that I anticipated it, that a clear idea had been formed in my mind, but when I read it I said “Yes, of course!” Dumbledore always showed a level of sensitivity and understanding about human nature that was highly unusual. Of course he was a genius, but I don’t think that’s enough. Voldemort was a genius, too, but his lack of ability to love practically made him an idiot. And I believe that love you find in your family does not give you a lot of understanding. It has to be romantic love, one that includes lust and physical attraction, which will give you further insight into human nature. Whether you love a man or a woman doesn’t make much difference to me, the feelings are the same (and I say this as a fully heterosexual being). But when your preferences deviate from those of most people’s (for want of better words) you have to develop more abilities, which Dumbledore definitely did. His unfortunate experience made him sage and gave him an unusual degree of self discipline and control over his feelings and desires.

Dumbledore was and still is my favourite character in the series. The fact I can now interpret many of his actions and his way of thinking makes him even more likeable in my eyes.

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The definition of gay is a person who is “sexually attracted” to people of the same sex. I can accept that Dumbledore ‘loved’ Grindelwald. In fact, I like the idea and it is fitting with the story and adds to Dumbledore’s character. But a moral and balanced man who ‘loves’ another man will perceive it as deep appreciation for them and thoughts of sexuality will not enter their heads; they will be indecent to them. To see Dumbledore as such a man makes him very interesting. But Rowling used the term ‘gay’. I have no idea why she did this because gay is in direct relation with sex, and I cannot see Dumbledore, with all his wisdom and morality, having sexual tendacies towards another man. It contradicts his character as he has been depicted in all the books. That he had lustful thoughts concerning Grindelwald is so very wrong. I choose to believe that Jo simply meant love. More likely, (and I am surprised by this since she is Christian) it seems that she thinks homosexuality is a continuation and direct result of man-to-man love , and since I don’t agree, I will take the notion of love and understand it as I will, and apply it to Dumbledore as I think befits his character. This way, I can accept this new information and continue to respect Dumbledore and not start mourning the fact that he had been my favorite character before Deathly Hallows.

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You know, on any other day we would be having a field day with commenting on the wonderful stuff Jo says about the original Order, Neville marrying and living in the pub, Molly’s hidden talent, full explanation of why she kills Lupin and Tonks, full explantion on why she changed her mind about killing Mr Wesaley. Very stuff we were waiting to hear about on this book tour. Yet hardly any comments on them! (I havent read every comment on this board – but I sampled here and there and all I find is…

Dumbledore is Gay! Sure enough – its by far the biggest thing but we got a thousand comments on it now!! I like to hear what you guys think about the other cool stuff she talked about. hearing about the additional layer to Molly Weasley and her explanations of swapping the fates of mr Weasley, Lupin and Tonks made perfect sense. Great insight into her workmanship and narrative structure. Could be useful for budding writers, even?

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

I so knew it.

I’m still waiting for the big McGonagall/Trelawney revelation…

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I think JKR was a coward. She could have mentioned DD´s homosexuality. But she didn´t because it would have bad for the sales of her books. To play NOW the revolutionary is totally farcial.

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I never really saw the “Dumbledore” is gay angle.

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howdy.. wel you see he really liked Burty Botts every flavour beans(however thats spelt).. they are very colourful and have a full variety..just like rainbows and fruitcakes. so if you read more deeply into that side of Dumbeldore’s life you could motivate that he was in fact gay and that Grindelwald was not just his friend and companion, but actually his lover, which he lost to very sad circumstances.so if you read carefully into various scenes you can pick this up…

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OK back to “Dumbledore is Gay” subject ;) In Ron’s words, how the bloody hell did Rita Skeeter miss that one!

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Some of these comments make me sick to my stomach. I suppose I’ve taken for granted the tolerant atmosphere I live in – where my friends and family treat me no differently for having a girlfriend.

Dumbledore being gay DOES NOT CHANGE HIM. I can’t believe the number of people who suddenly think he can’t be a good role model, or that he’s anything less than he used to be.

And to all the people saying her revelation was “not necessary” – neither were most of her other post-DH comments! Did we really need to know that Nevill married Hannah? No. but at least in DD’s case it actually added to the depth of his character, and explained something about his actions within the plot (ie, why it took him so long to go after Grindelwald)

The homophobia in these comments scares me, actually.

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Jo is still surprised when she reads that fans are torn about Snape and unequivocally stated that Snape was “bitter, vindictive and mean.”

I love Snape becasue he is Snape. And he is not gay, but normal. I love that fact!

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Albus is gay. That is going to overshadow everything else. I am dumbfounded by the ovation at the revelation of his sexual orientation. I wonder what the reaction would have been if she had revealed that Aberforth had an intimate relationship with his goats. I’m supposing that would have brought the house down. ROTFLMAO

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Rita Skeeter missed that one! Amazing! JKR a coward? Please… How could she have written about it?

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Harry’s Reaction: “Good for you Professor, sorry your relationship with grindelwald didnt work out”

Hermione’s reaction: “Um..you and Grindelwald were…um..well, I’m a little surprised..”

Ron’s reaction: “BLOODY HELL!”

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I am thrilled that Neville got married in the end! And a Hufflepuff, too…They seem like a good match :) I’m going to bet Sue has something to say about this on the next PC!

Dumbledore was gay? Wow. I can honestly say I didn’t see that coming. It might have been nice if J.K. had mentioned in DH that he was gay, but I still am glad we heard about it! People seem to have a problem with it because it wasn’t something you could see in the books, but again, it’s from Harry’s point of view and I’m not sure Harry notices those things.

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I am so tired of all the rude, ignorant, and insulting commments. Please, if you don’t like this revalation, let it sink in before you comment, and ponder how to comment SMARTLY and KINDLY, don’t just spout out whatever trash you think of first- NO ONE is going to appreciate it.

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WOW thats crazy but at the same time rather perfect…funny about the script’s margin notes! wonder whether the line will be ’’I knew a guy once, whose hair…’’ somehow I don’t see that happening somehow!!

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because it was a question. And it lets us know about his character i.e. why he was anti muggles for a time…

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What can I say… is cool in one way.. BUT.. i can’t shake the feeling that this is something that she just invented recently. I mean… i don’t know if she wrote dumbledore always knowing he was gay, or if this is something she said only to make us talk and discuss. Some of yoy knowing NOW that dumbledore is gay will say “I always knew it or I suspected it” I’m sorry to say i don’t belive you NO ONE knew it… she never gave any clues about this… I’m feeling a little disapointed of Rowling. If Dumbledore was gay since the begining (i mean she always thought him that way) She sould have said it… she had SEVEN BOOKS to give clues or simply said it in a wonderful way, that would have made Dumbledore a grater character… but likes his?... sorry doesn’t work for me.

After she is going to say.. O.. didn’t you Know Luna Loovegood was an Alien?, or Din’t yoy know Hermione was actually Voldemorts daughter??? BAH… if you don’t say thing this important (like Dumbledore being gay, cause it make us see him like many of us who make stupid things when we are in lobe) then don’t say them.. it sound false.

MND

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This is horrible!!! Come on JK, why do you have to do this to us. For all of these years, Dumbledore has ment so much to me, you know, the only one Voldemort ever feared and probably Harry’s best father figure. Now my feelings are tainted. That love and connection between Harry and Dumbledore now seems so wrong. I didn’t see this at all in the books.

Come on, this book already stands for so much, now it’s going to be pro-gay rights? I don’t think so. Ewww, how am I ever going to wear my Dumbledore’s Army shirt? I love her so much, she is my hero, my role model, why did she have to do this???

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“you might want to learn to speak english before you start spouting nonsense…according to the quote you pasted…it said most of the civilized world…it did not say that Europe and NA is the ONLY civilized world. Good god…the level of education of some of these people is abhorrent.”

I atleast know couple of languages, and English it not my first. How many do you know. It was clear what that post implied, and I know what people consider the civilized world to be, they don’t need to say Europe and NA. You are too stupid to finger it out, that is not my fault. So go to hell.

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Why do people interchange the words “homophobic” with “do not like gays”? Is our community really that lacking in knowledge of the english language? A phobia means fear of something. In other words, you’re scared of it. Example: one could be afraid of heights. However, if I tell you to go up to the 64th floor of a building and paint a window frame hanging by a string, chances are most of you would probably decline even if I paid a hefty sum of $100/hour (which is much more than your average working salary). You don’t have to be scared of something to not like it or not want anything to do with it.

Homophobia does not equal not liking homosexuality does not equal hating homosexuality does not equal hating homosexuals.

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“Why did we need to know this?”

BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED.

Did DD find love? Yes. With a man, even if it was unrequited.

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Holly WHAT. this changes NOTHING about Dumbledores’s relationship with Harry.

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This really is unsurprising in a way, that there’s so much, er, excitment over Dumbledore being gay, but, I mean, it’s not an evil thing as far as I’m concerned. And I might mention, most HP fans aren’t fanatics like we are. If they check the fansites it isn’t common. I don’t think parents are very likely to know that. And if they forbid their kids from reading it, than they are prejuduiced, it’s as simple as that. Those of you who disagree, and say it’s irrelevent to the plot, it’s exactly why he was so blind to Grindelwald’s evil! And also, as for irrelevence, almost all of this is irrelevent to the plot. Do we need to know who Neville married? No, of course not, but it’s interesting to the fans who want to know everything of this world she created! The really funny part is her comment about the fanfic now…every straight DD portrayal will have to be labeled uncanon! Haha! Otherwise, to the rest of the news, I think it’s all fascinating. I suppose she said it was cool for him to marry the person who runs the Leaky Cauldron is a nod to Melissa, though Sue wil no doubt be excited it was a Hufflepuff…I bet if the kid who asked what Aberforth was doing to the goats was older the answer would have been different…snorts I can’t wait for the rest of the transcript!

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I was really disappointed to hear this piece of news. I guess it is especially frustrating when JKR just spoke out about her faith and her Christian themes in the book. God says that homosexuality is wrong and that’s that. Why did she have to go and speak out about her faith and then flaunt homosexuality in our faces immediately afterwards? It is just so contradictory and I just lost a lot of respect for her. Plus, I was always so happy that there was no homosexuality in the books. :-( I guess that I feel that if she wanted to have a homosexual character…fine, but acting as though Christianity and homosexuality are compatible is totally inappropriate.

I’m sure that these comments will anger some of you but I have every right to my opinion just as you have every right to yours.

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Why would God say that? Does God not love people for being who they are?

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Faye Kane. Everyone must grow old. you cant stay young forever.

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First of all, DUH! I thought it was pretty obvious that Dumbledore was gay from the get-go, and of course it makes his youthful stupidity far more understandable.

Second, homophobic idiots make me sick. If someone is smart enough to appreciate the wit and intelligence of JKR’s writing, they should not be dumb enough to fall for anti-gay bullspit….and I think that is evident from the many comments here that applaud JKR’s honesty.

So unless there are a lot of stupid HP fans out there, I imagine this site is getting “freeped” by a bunch of right-wing, anti-gay nutjobs trying to stir up controversy. Those comments say FAR more about the commenters than about JKR or Dumbledore, particularly the fixation on the physical aspects of this issue. Being gay is not all about having sex, any more than being hetero is all about sex. In a nutshell, to all those anti-gay types: get over yourself, and crawl back under that rock, please.

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How interesting! Albus gay…

That had not occurred to me, but it does make sense now.

As for Aberforth and his goats, I’d say Jo is a pretty good skater…

OMT

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“Why did we need to know this?”

BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED.

Did DD find love? Yes. With a man, even if it was unrequited.

Posted by Chris on October 20, 2007 @ 11:54 AM

someone else also asked her about aberforth and goats. She side stepped that question because the kid was 8. we all now what she was implying with that all aberforth and goat thing. Something is wrong the dumbledore brothers. One digs men, the other animals.

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To the people who are saying that Harry’s relationship with Dumbledore seems “all wrong” now: gay people aren’t attracted to all other people of the same sex. A straight person doesn’t fall in love with every person of the opposite sex, either. As J.K. said herself, Dumbledore loved Harry LIKE A SON. And if you’re letting Dumbledore be destroyed for you because of this, that’s just a shame. We’re all human beings here. We all have our differances, and we all have things in common. Let it go.

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“Why did we need to know this?”

BECAUSE SOMEONE ASKED.

Did DD find love? Yes. With a man, even if it was unrequited.

Posted by Chris on October 20, 2007 @ 11:54 AM

someone else also asked her about aberforth and goats. She side stepped that question because the kid was 8. we all now what she was implying with that all aberforth and goat thing. Something is wrong the dumbledore brothers. One digs men, the other animals.

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Seeing how there are nearly 1000 comments so far I haven’t read them all so I don’t know if this has been mentioned:

Michael Gambon in his “Top Gear” appearence told the host “I used to be gay, but I had to give it up. It made my eyes water.”

Such a funny comment, but now kind of appropriate to the character of Dumbledore.

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I like this revalation about Dumbledore. It doesn’t change much about Dumbledore’s character – he is still the great wizard, man, and mentor we knew him to be. But I think it makes it even more poignant that Dumbledore was such a champion of love when you consider how he was betrayed and disappointed by Grindelwald. Yet he continued to have faith in the power of love. This is true to Dumbledore’s character, a parallel to the way he was a friend to Muggles despite the way his sister’s abuse at the hands of Muggles tore his family apart.

I don’t see why the knowledge that Dumbledore was gay should change anything about the relationship between Harry and Dumbledore. If we assume McGonnagal to be straight, do we fear that she can’t have a platonic teacher/student relationship with Harry? Why should it be any different with Dumbledore?

As with any character, there is more to Dumbledore than what is explicitly stated in the text. One of the things that makes the Harry Potter books so good is the depth of the characters. JKR’s rich imagination gives these characters lives, emotions and experiences far beyond what we see on the page, and the story is richer for it. I don’t think JKR is trying to make any kind of political statement, she is just being honest about how she sees Dumbledore as a character.

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“This is horrible!!! Come on JK, why do you have to do this to us. For all of these years, Dumbledore has ment so much to me, you know, the only one Voldemort ever feared and probably Harry’s best father figure.”

I agree…I think it was …unnecessary. I don’t know…It’s just weird…Couldn’t she keep this unknown? Many people liked it… What do you mean? Why was it so incredible? Maybe it’s because I’m Brazilian and here there’s much more prejudice then in USA… But if you are not offended answer me.

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“This is horrible!!! Come on JK, why do you have to do this to us. For all of these years, Dumbledore has ment so much to me, you know, the only one Voldemort ever feared”[...]

I agree…I think it was …unnecessary. I don’t know…It’s just weird…Couldn’t she keep this unknown? Many people liked it… What do you mean? Why was it so incredible? Maybe it’s because I’m Brazilian and here there’s much more prejudice then in USA… But if you are not offended answer me.

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“Being gay is not all about having sex, any more than being hetero is all about sex.”

Are you really that thick? Being gay is exactly DEFINED as having a sexual attractive to the same gender. The definition of sexual attraction is “In a species that reproduces sexually, sexual attraction is an attraction to other members of the same species for sexual or erotic activity.” While someone classified as being gay doesn’t mean that they get on all fours every night and receive a mouthful of ledger, it is a FACT that whether one is gay or not is DEPENDENT on SEXUAL ATTRACTION.

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“someone else also asked her about aberforth and goats. She side stepped that question because the kid was 8. we all now what she was implying with that all aberforth and goat thing. Something is wrong the dumbledore brothers. One digs men, the other animals.”

Posted by jkr is a phoney on October 20, 2007 @ 12:01 PM

Great, now we’re getting homosexuality being comapared to bestiality.

Something’s wrong with you if you think they can be in any way equated.

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I just love her.. :D THIS IS THE BEST THING I EVER HEARD BEFORE. I LOVE YOU!! And for ELFSTER: If you think that there’s no relation between GOOD and GAY you’re just a racist person.

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‘crushonlupin’ – you say homosexuality is wrong and yet your name seems to imply you have a crush on a monster.

“That love and connection between Harry and Dumbledore now seems so wrong” what does it change, please, ‘Holly’? JKR Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald, not some speccy scarry kid a hundred and forty years younger than himself. Just because someone’s homosexual doesn’t mean they want to shag every person of their own sex! Do YOU want to make out with every whatever-gender-you-are too? No, I thought not. So there. We’re not all horny nymphomaniacs, we have tastes – in other words, we’re human.

Honestly, I believe most of the people making these homophobic comments simply don’t know any homosexuals (or don’t know that they do).

But seriously now…. killing Lupin and Tonks was hard for JKR? Huh! I do not believe that! Come on, the Weasley are a dime a dozen and she killed the ONE cool Metamorphmagus/Werewolf couple… meh… still grumbling after 3 months

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“Great, now we’re getting homosexuality being comapared to bestiality.

Something’s wrong with you if you think they can be in any way equated.”

A couple hundred years ago, someone would say there’s something wrong with you if you think that homosexuality and heterosexuality can be equated. A couple hundred years from now, people will be saying there’s something wrong with you if you think beastiality and heterosexuality can be equated. Society will change to that point. People will question, well why can’t things of different species get married if they love each other? It will happen. Not in our lifetime, but it will happen.

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I wonder why Rita Skeeter never caught on to this, as deeply as she dug into Dumbldore’s past?

And as for the homophobes, flaming them won’t change their attitudes. Let ‘em rant. Straight folks are straight, gays ain’t. And just being straight doesn’t make you homophobic.

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I am not gay, but I do have a relative who is. I am just SO offended by some of the things people are saying. My relative is still how he used to be before people knew, and Dumbledore is, as well. It doesn’t change his character, it just makes it clearer what he always was. And he wasn’t bad for being gay. He was just different from a certain amount of the population. Calm down, people.

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I think what I hate most is all the “I’m not homophobic but...” and, “I have lots of gay friends, but...”

It just makes you sound like a deluded bigot if you begin that way and then go on to completely invalidate yourself.

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Bravo, Andrew Sidhom, I agree with you 100%.

And Jo has fallen in my estimation.

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“A couple hundred years ago, someone would say there’s something wrong with you if you think that homosexuality and heterosexuality can be equated. A couple hundred years from now, people will be saying there’s something wrong with you if you think beastiality and heterosexuality can be equated. Society will change to that point. People will question, well why can’t things of different species get married if they love each other? It will happen. Not in our lifetime, but it will happen.”

...I’m actually speechless. You’re an idiot.

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These comments are not good. It’s all people hating people. everyones steryotyping everyone. Just chill out. Dumbledore would be ashamed if he saw this!

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This is not okay. I thought Harry Potter fans were smarter than this. I thought we were all about unity and togetherness…But apparently now it’s “unity and togetherness excluding a some people who are gay or don’t agree with my politics.” Disgraceful.

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edit: I meant, of course “whatever-gender-you-aren’t” ... damn typos.

lovelivelearn – you said it. Amen.

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lolwut, I really hope you did not mean that the way I think you meant it. If you did, all I can say is wow, I feel very sorry for you.

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Therei s a marked difference between homosexual men in Britain and those in America I find…

The fact that Dumbledore is in fact gay seems to fit in the mold of Steven Fry and Ian McKellan…

Now I too wonder if McKellan would end up being old man Grindelwald….

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whoa almost 1000 comments. Well this really surprised me, but it doesn’t change how I see the books. hehe I once thought that Dumbledore and McGonagall had something going but boy was I wrong!

I kind of agree with you, I do not believe in JKR, when you said Jo was a coward for not adding Dumbledore’s sexuality to the story. I mean book 7 had slightly adult jokes so why not this? But maybe this revelation wouldn’t have contrbuted greatly to the plot, I dunno. It would’ve drawn attention away from the Horcruxes or Harry’s journey. These aren’t very good reasons so maybe we should ask Jo why she revealed this now.

I never expected this sort of thing like most people but it doesn’t taint Dumbledore in any way for me.

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“Are you really that thick? Being gay is exactly DEFINED as having a sexual attractive to the same gender. The definition of sexual attraction is “In a species that reproduces sexually, sexual attraction is an attraction to other members of the same species for sexual or erotic activity.” While someone classified as being gay doesn’t mean that they get on all fours every night and receive a mouthful of ledger, it is a FACT that whether one is gay or not is DEPENDENT on SEXUAL ATTRACTION.”

So when a six-year-old girl says that she has a boyfriend, it’s “all about sex?” You moron. It’s about WHO PEOPLE ARE.

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Oh well, anyone want seven books and a few DVDS? My time as a Potter fan is done.

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...I’m actually speechless. You’re an idiot.”

Why is he idiot. Its true gays were considered the same as bestiality, Abnormal, sick, etc. bestiality exist, do you think is sick? Also, people who are attracted to children. Why are they sick. If you cant control who you find attracted to. what makes this different. The only wrong thing is children are not old enough to consent, but poeple who just voice that they find children attractive, but don’t act on it are still consider sick. Why is that. Something is accepted by society doesn’t mean it is right.

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Ok, there’s just a tad too much dirty and graphic arguments here for my liking. Pity. I enjoyed much of the debate on Dumbledore’s revelation and sorely disappointed in the lack of comments on the other cool stuff Jo says about other characters. I guess I’ll just take leave of this board and catch you guys on another comment board (not that I’ll be missed!). Some of you though, please tone down your content, there are young kids on this board. Admittedly some of them, are confused with Jo’s Dumbeldore revelation! nevertheless, still tone down your content, please!

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@lovelivelearn awake! Dumbledore is a machiavellian manipulator, so said by Mrs.Rowling. She is manipulator as well, or she wants to be one. Why should I be keen on the estimation of a person who I think of is just mocking people? No thank you. I prefer to use my own brain and my own heart.

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I think this is awesome news. It’s incredibly brave of her to say this, and I applaud her for doing it. Obviously she knew it would be controversial, but she knew she had already written a character that was wonderful and intriguing. The fact that he’s gay only adds to the many layers of Dumbledore. Bravo, JKR! :-)

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hi!! i just wanted to say that i’m totally disappointed that you guys published neville’s fate in the title, because you don’t get to choose whether if you want to read the spoiler or not. and the funny this is, first you introduce the article and then you say “beware of spoilers form now on” and say again everything we already knew because of the title, so it’s too late to say “beware”. And i don’t say it from myself, cause i already finished the book, but what about other kids who haven’t? it’s kinda unfair with them to do that, i think. and i don’t argue about dumbledore being gay only because jo said she could’ve said that years ago. anyway, i totally love TLC’s dedication in this tour :) bye!

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I think Mr. Bandman’s comments are among the best. Why do we have to give each and every literary FICTIONAL character a defined sexuality at all?

And yes, I thought the comment about the goat was distasteful. It was funny to kind of wonder what she meant. But, to allude to it publicly in front of children was in bad taste.

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Can all you people that have a problem with a HP character being gay PLEASE GET OVER YOURSELVES?

To those saying being gay is a choice, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?

To those saying the HP books are children’s books – even if that were true, SO WHAT? People who are gay usually know it from a young age, and shouldn’t be made to feel ashamed by ignorant bigots saying they’ve chosen to be that way.

Being gay isn’t any more about having sex than being straight is. If you an think of Harry and Ron as being fathers wthout conjuring up images of what they did to become fathers, then WHY can’t you accept someone as gay with conjuring up what gays do in the bedroom?

Why is it ok for us to know that Harry, Ron, Hermione and Neville etc are straight, but not ok to know that ONE of the main characters is gay?

Does being gay suddenly make Dumbledore less powerful, less of a humanitarian, less of a wizard genius, less of a person? If you think it does, then THAT is what makes you a BIGOT!

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the difference is CONSENT to a relationship- which children and animals cannot do!

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So what? A lot of people used to think that black slavery was okay – now we know better. Same with homosexuality.

Tell me, what’s wrong with two consenting adults (of any gender) having a relationship? What about it exactly is so repulsive to you? It’s a private, personal thing which has nothing to do with you.

I don’t see why it makes such a huge difference whether you fall in love with someone who has a penis, or someone who has a vagina.

Oh no, Dumbledore wasn’t attracted to breasts. Guess this makes him completely inadequate as a mentor now.

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guys, we are all entitled to our own opinions stop steriotyping! people arent just a certain way because of thier sexual orientation! Everyone is thier own person BE LiKE DUMBLEDORE LESS HATE MORE LOVE! lovelivelearn

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I feel I must address these commenters who think that there are Christians who blindly follow the Republican party and that’s why they hate gays. Everything about that statement is wrong. Christians follow what the Bible says. You may know people who say they’re Christians who have not read the Bible, but it’s wrong to assume that’s true of all of us, or of a specific one of us whom you don’t know. I have read the Bible many times and I feel I have a clear understanding of its teachings.

The Bible teaches that we are all sinners. Yes, some have a problem with the word sin, but the word sin is in the Bible many times. The word translated homosexual in 1 Corinthians 6 might not be as clearly defined, but there are other verses that make it clear what is meant. Leviticus 18:22 is one. But back to sin: sin has many forms and all of these forms earn us a trip to hell. All of us deserve to go to hell because of our sin. But Christ died to take the punishment for our sin. Anyone who believes in Jesus and repents of their sin can go to heaven because of what Jesus did.

There are, however, people who refuse to believe that certain acts are sinful. That’s where the problem lies. I don’t have a problem with a person who has participated in a sinful activity and then repented. But those who insist that a certain sin is right and not only continue to do it but openly encourage others to do it and approve of it are not acting in the way Christ taught. That is what I believe. You can substitute whatever sin you want in that blank, it doesn’t have to be homosexual sin.

Maybe Dumbledore never had another homosexual relationship after Grindelwald. Maybe he turned away from participating in that activity. But I have to say I’m with those who say they wish Jo had not told us this. It’s all over the Muggle news media, already, this morning. Nothing about Neville marrying Hannah Abbott, which I thought was much more interesting, or the fact that James and Lily didn’t need to work and were full-time Order fighters, and that they supported Lupin. All the Muggles care about is this one fact, which is exactly what I thought would happen. It’s not going to matter what Dumbledore really did in the books, everything will be filtered through each person’s feelings about homosexuals and it will further divide people who might have been more unified if this bit of information had been kept private.

I was sad when I heard about Jo’s trip to the US because I knew there would be no way I’d get to see her. Now I am very pleased I wasn’t there last night with my 10-year-old. My kids still haven’t heard this news, I still don’t know how I’m going to tell them.

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It’s just ca-razy! I’ll agree with the person who said that there were no undertones of this in the book-at least none that I saw. It doesn’t change my love of the character at all, I like that she went against stereotypes in every way. Dumbeldore’s Army!!!

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A W E S O M E

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Only thing is, I can’t see how something is a sin if you don’t have a choice in the matter (did you choose to be straight? exactly). Oh and if you are Christian and believe in God, why would he have put gay people here in the first place if he didn’t like us? :) Try answering that one.

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I always suspected that Albus was gay, and that Minerva was a lesbian. Nary a love interest was ever mentioned for either. Then, in DH, I knew I’d been right when I read about Grindelwald; no way that Albus could ever “flirt with the dark side” out of anything but romantic love for Grindelwald.

I’m saddened by the negative responses to JKR’s revelation about Albus, but not surprised. I think that JKR is very brave in announcing this, and I admire her honesty and the risk she has taken in revealing it.

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Well this is the best news I’ve heard in awhile! (Forget Britney, check out Dumbledore!) ;D

Geez, I really hope this doesn’t ruine the series for people. It just goes to show you how diverse Potterverse is. If Dumbledore’s gay, so what! He’s still the same Dumbledore!

And I don’t think we’ve given Neville enough kudos. Congrats on marrying Hannah and living above our own Leaky Cauldron!

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something I wrote a year ago: http://petsaur.blogspot.com/2006/12/gender-in-harry-potter.html

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Leaky posted the following on this article:

“Reminder: We are routinely deleting the (thankfully) miniscule percentage of comments that are hateful or intolerant. Debate on this topic is welcome but hate and name-calling is not. Please maintain the respect in this article that you all do in all others. Thanks.”

Thanks Edward and team. Bet you guys didnt vouch for a hard days work on a Saturday ;)

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I hate how everyone says “Why do we have to know about Dumbledore’s sexuality?”. I wonder how many of those people would say so if Jo had said that Dumbledore was in love with McGonagall or any other woman.

I also don’t understand how Dumbledore’s being gay can change your views on his realtionship with Harry. If you didn’t find in inappropriate before why should you find it inappropriate now? You’ve read the books, you KNOW what the relationship was about!

I was delighted by the news. I must say that the idea of Dumbledore being in love with Grindelwald did cross my mind while reading DH, but I never thought it could actually be true, because HP books are still children’s books (not that children’s book couldn’t include homosexual relationships)and they already had enough (Christian) opponents because of the magic thing. In my opinion, JKR rocks. I love her even more now.

(Sorry for my English, I’m not a native speaker.)

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So Mrs Lovegood, you have a problem with Dumbledore being gay because in the bible it’s sinful, but you didn’t have a problem with reading a book containing witchcraft and wizardry which are ALSO supposed to be sinful. The sheer hypocrisy of some of the posters here is almost as crass as the bigotry.

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Mrs. Lovegood,

Maybe it’s just a differance of opinions, but I consider myself an average Christian 13-year-old girl and I read the Bible often, but I do not have the view that being gay is a sin. When I was in preschool, my best friend was gay, but, being so young, I didn’t understand what that really meant. Now I do, but that doesn’t mean I am any less grateful for the years of friendship I shared with her. I have the same view of the Harry Potter books now. Just because Dumbledore is gay, it doesn’t make me regret the time I have spent reading the books. I feel the books have taught me a lot, and tolerance is one of the things I have learned. I’m going to trust in J.K. Rowling that the decision to write Dumbledore as a gay character was right.

I know a lot of people don’t agree with me, but that is just my opinion on it.

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Cool Aid Drinker. Why wait until it is all over and most of the books are sold? Money, Money, Money.

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Danny….that post was absolutly ridiculous. First of all, there are a lot of little kids here who don’t need to read something like that. Second of all Dumbledore was gay…that doesn’t mean he’s ever had gay sex.

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Frankly, I think it would’ve been much better to leave it up in the air, leave it up to the individual reader to determine that. I never got that vibe from Dumbledore. I rather thought him celibate by choice. That, to me, would’ve made his character much more interesting.

In fact, for quite awhile, I speculated that Minerva was rather taken with Dumbledore and always hoped he’d come around.

And being gay makes him neither cool, nor uncool. It just makes him gay. There are cool and uncool people of every orientation.

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I just don’t feel this was built up to in the books AT ALL! This comes totally out of the blue, and, quite frankly, sounds like something JKR made up on the fly, or after the book was published. Also, Neville marrying Hannah!? PLEASE!! We all knew it was him and Luna, JKR even implied that in an interview. Finally, it’s interesting that this revelation came days after Rowling spoke about her Christian faith, a faith which, by and large, opposes homosexuality. I wonder how she’s going to reconcile those two.

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grace wasley – that was a beautiful post, and far more balanced and accepting than many people three times your age. You diserve the name you’ve given yourself.

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Gay relationships are fine BETWEEN GAYS. Grindelwald was not gay. When a gay tries to force himself onto a non-gay, THAT is the problem.

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” Oh and if you are Christian and believe in God, why would he have put gay people here in the first place if he didn’t like us? :) Try answering that one.”

I’m no christian, but that is illogical question. Why did he put murders, rapist, cheaters, adultress etc. Do you approve of all these behaviors? They exist that must mean God approves or likes us. Being gay is a choice. God warns you about it just like any other sin, its up to you whather to follow it or not.

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I’m Gay. And I have never been more ashamed and insulted at some of these posters. JKR gives us ONE character who went through all the heartache and pain of people like us and some of you posters insult and mock our way of life. Rick above said he is giving away his potter books and dvd’s because of this. THIS IS SOOOOOO HURTFUL.

I was unimaginabily over the moon when JKR said that Dumbledore, my fav character, my hero was gay. If any of you were gay you’d see what a difficult life it is. People rejecting you, only a fraction of people out there who could return feelings you have for them, the social stigma….

Please. GROW UP AND LET PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES WITHOUT YOUR UNINFORMED OPINIONS.

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Wow! Could have done without that information. :( Don’t want to think of Dumbledore like that.

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” Oh and if you are Christian and believe in God, why would he have put gay people here in the first place if he didn’t like us? :) Try answering that one.”

I’m no christian, but that is illogical question. Why did he put murders, rapist, cheaters, adultress etc. Do you approve of all these behaviors? They exist that must mean God approves or likes us. Being gay is a choice. God warns you about it just like any other sin, its up to you whather to follow it or not.

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I’m Gay. And I have never been more ashamed and insulted at some of these posters. JKR gives us ONE character who went through all the heartache and pain of people like us and some of you posters insult and mock our way of life. Rick above said he is giving away his potter books and dvd’s because of this. THIS IS SOOOOOO HURTFUL.

I was unimaginabily over the moon when JKR said that Dumbledore, my fav character, my hero was gay. If any of you were gay you’d see what a difficult life it is. People rejecting you, only a fraction of people out there who could return feelings you have for them, the social stigma….

Please. GROW UP AND LET PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES WITHOUT YOUR UNINFORMED STATEMENTS.

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Zee that was an amazing post!

I can’t believe people can just start hating the HP-series just because ONE MAIN CHARACTER turns out to be gay, when they used to be big fans before they heard it. What’s the difference between love and love? There’s nothing in the books that even implies something about sex.

If you start thinking about SEX the second you hear anything about homosexuality, then you have a problem.

Who really cares if Dumbledore was in love with a boy or a girl?

You people are the ones that make homosexuality into something that is worthy of hate and disgust.

Homosexuality is peofectly normal. It is not a disease. If someone were to put all living homosexuals on an island and us bomb them all to death, it wouldn’t matter. Because there will be new homosexual people. Just as if you were to put all heterosexuals on an island and bomb them. Homosexuality is something that will always exist, and you might aswell accept it, if you aren’t already.

Dumbledore being gay is NOT something that kids shouldn’t know of. This is a great way of telling kids what homosexuality means. Simply a girl who falls in love with girls, or a boy who falls in love with boys.

If you choose to only think about the SEX, then that’s YOUR problem and not the gays’ or your kids’.

THANK YOU JK, FOR MAKING SUCH A GREAT PERSON BE A ROLE MODEL FOR ME AND OTHER YOUNG GAY PEOPLE!!!!

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There were lots of things that didn’t go into the books, either because it wasn’t relevant, or because it would have detracted too much from the main story. Jo had said back in July that she may release an encyclopaedia that would tie up all the loose ends, and tell us more about characters she didn’t give enough time to in the books.

Why is she revealing these details now? BECAUSE SHE’S ON A BOOK TOUR AND PEOPLE ARE ASKING!!!

If you don’t want to find out any more about the books then don’t visit websites like this one. It ain’t rocket science.

But I suspect you all WANT to know, as long as it doesn’t go against your own personal prejudices, then you all shout “why did she need to tell us that?” GROW UP!!!

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I’m Gay. And I have never been more ashamed and insulted at some of these posters. JKR gives us ONE character who went through all the heartache and pain of people like us and some of you posters insult and mock our way of life. Rick above said he is giving away his potter books and dvd’s because of this. THIS IS SOOOOOO HURTFUL.

I was unimaginabily over the moon when JKR said that Dumbledore, my fav character, my hero was gay. If any of you were gay you’d see what a difficult life it is. People rejecting you, only a fraction of people out there who could return feelings you have for them, the social stigma….

Please. GROW UP AND LET PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES WITHOUT YOUR UNINFORMED STATEMENTS.

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WOW.. I just fell out of my chair laughing. LOL. Man this brings on a whole new thought process to think he’ said to Harry. I can’t wait until Pottercast comes out now. It lso brings on a whole new meaning To his “nakey time”. LOLOL. On another note, GO NEVILLE!!!!

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I will forever LOVE J.K. Rowling for this. She’s made my dream come true. Ever since I have read Book 7, I have started to read and write fanfics about Dumbledore and Grindlewald and their relationship. This has made me so happy!! Thank you a million times, Rowling!

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WOW.. I just fell out of my chair laughing. LOL. Man this brings on a whole new thought process to think he’ said to Harry. I can’t wait until Pottercast comes out now. It lso brings on a whole new meaning To his “nakey time”. LOLOL. On another note, GO NEVILLE!!!!

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ms. grace weasley… you are an angel… and it brings me so much joy to know that you would represent the furture of this country. hope is alive and well.

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Yes, of course it’s a choice. I chose to be faced with discrimination, I chose to be shunned from my church, I chose to be attracted to someone of the same sex. jkr is a phoney, you are an uneducated fool and someday I am glad that people like you will no longer be around. I cannot BELIEVE you compared homosexuality with rapists and murderers. You are the sinner for saying such things.

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ms. grace weasley… you are an angel… and it brings me so much joy to know that you would represent the furture of this country. hope is alive and well.

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I really like this turn of events ! Does being gay makes a different (better/worse/less or more clever/intelligent) person of Prof. Dumbledore? Of course, NOT!!! Yeah, I guess I like him more now ! Regards from Lima, Peru!

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YAY FOR DUMBLEDORE!!! and yay for Jo as well!!! There is absolutely nothing wrong with Dumbledore being gay – it wasn’t something she made up on the spot since she did say she “always thought of Dumbledore as gay.” And why make that up when she could have easily found some witch that he was in love with? It’s great that one of the most powerful and well-known role models for children and the wizarding world is gay! Not to mention, it makes sense with the way Dumbledore is portrayed in the book, especially if you read between the lines when his relationship with Grindelwald is described.

By the way Rick, don’t stop being a HP fan because you don’t like that Dumbledore is gay. You liked HP before you knew that and nothing about the actual story has changed. Get over it. It’s not a big deal.

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ms. grace weasley… you are an angel… and it brings me so much joy to know that you would represent the furture of this country. hope is alive and well.

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Believing that homosexuality is inferior to heterosexuality is, in fact, the short definition of homophobia. If it bothers you to have your beliefs accurately characterized, perhaps you should reevaluate your beliefs.

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YAY FOR DUMBLEDORE!!! and yay for Jo as well!!! There is absolutely nothing wrong with Dumbledore being gay – it wasn’t something she made up on the spot since she did say she “always thought of Dumbledore as gay.” And why make that up when she could have easily found some witch that he was in love with? It’s great that one of the most powerful and well-known role models for children and the wizarding world is gay! Not to mention, it makes sense with the way Dumbledore is portrayed in the book, especially if you read between the lines when his relationship with Grindelwald is described.

By the way Rick, don’t stop being a HP fan because you don’t like that Dumbledore is gay. You liked HP before you knew that and nothing about the actual story has changed. Get over it. It’s not a big deal.

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Regarding Hagrid….. YEAH HAGRID, NOT Dumbledore :)

Newsweek has this report of the same story but a little more elaboration on Hagrid’s future, what I find hilarious is the audience reaction and Jo’s response to their reactions!

Newsweek: In answer to the question “Did Hagrid marry?” Rowling replied that sadly, no. The half-giant had a flirtation with a giantess but she found him “a tad unsophisticated” and the relationship never went forward. In response to the audience’s groans of dismay, Rowling said, jokingly, “OK, I’ll write another book.” And when the audience continued to express disapproval added, “at least I didn’t kill him.”

http://www.newsweek.com/id/50787

Sad, but classic to and fro audience interactions with Jo!

Alas, everything including this is drowned out with the Dumbledore revelation which I have said already, I find quite a brilliant and fittng additional layer in his character. But do comment on some other stuff guys!

And please refrain from insults and filthy talk!

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Addressed to Billy (Oct. 20 12:40) Respectfully and with great love, I believe you DO have a choice in the matter of being gay; gay people were not born gay, therefore, God did not “put gay people here.” If He had, why would it be considered a sin in the Bible? There are drug addicts and murderers in this world but He did not make them that way, they are what they are by choice. He put you here and you chose to be gay (or, in some way, were influenced to be). I’m not attempting to say He doesn’t like gay people though, because He does and so do I. You can love someone and not love his lifestyle. “Hate the sin; love the sinner.”

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I really don’t understand why everybody are so surprise… Have you read the book? She never said it clear but there was a lot of clues. I don’t understand the people who say that jk shouldn’t have said that because it’s not important for the story. Is it the same people who can’t wait to know insignificant thing about the future of harry, ron, hermione…?

Je ne comprend vraiment pas pourquoi cette révélation surprend tout le monde. Il y a beaucoup d’indices dans les livres. Il me semble qu’à la fin du 7e, la seule information manquante était de le dire explicitement! Je ne comprenc pas vraimentles gens qui disent que jk rowling n’avait pas a ajouter cet information, que ce n,était pas nécessaire. Il me semble que justement c’est une information qui vaut la peine d’être révélé. Ce n’est pas un fait insignifiant comme: Ginny a joué pour un équipe de Q. pendant des année, pourtant pour cet information là tout le monde étaient bien excité…. Je ne comprend pas, c’est juste encore une fois un exemple d’intolérance déguisé.

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Believing that homosexuality is inferior to heterosexuality is, in fact, the short definition of homophobia. If it bothers you to have your beliefs accurately characterized, perhaps you should reevaluate your beliefs.

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I really don’t understand why everybody are so surprise… Have you read the book? She never said it clear but there was a lot of clues. I don’t understand the people who say that jk shouldn’t have said that because it’s not important for the story. Is it the same people who can’t wait to know insignificant thing about the future of harry, ron, hermione…?

Je ne comprend vraiment pas pourquoi cette révélation surprend tout le monde. Il y a beaucoup d’indices dans les livres. Il me semble qu’à la fin du 7e, la seule information manquante était de le dire explicitement! Je ne comprenc pas vraimentles gens qui disent que jk rowling n’avait pas a ajouter cet information, que ce n,était pas nécessaire. Il me semble que justement c’est une information qui vaut la peine d’être révélé. Ce n’est pas un fait insignifiant comme: Ginny a joué pour un équipe de Q. pendant des année, pourtant pour cet information là tout le monde étaient bien excité…. Je ne comprend pas, c’est juste encore une fois un exemple d’intolérance déguisé.

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I always kinda … thought he was gay. It wasn’t like “Oh, look, he’s totally gay!” but I think you could feel it somehow.

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I really don’t understand why everybody are so surprise… Have you read the book? She never said it clear but there was a lot of clues. I don’t understand the people who say that jk shouldn’t have said that because it’s not important for the story. Is it the same people who can’t wait to know insignificant thing about the future of harry, ron, hermione…?

Je ne comprend vraiment pas pourquoi cette révélation surprend tout le monde. Il y a beaucoup d’indices dans les livres. Il me semble qu’à la fin du 7e, la seule information manquante était de le dire explicitement! Je ne comprenc pas vraimentles gens qui disent que jk rowling n’avait pas a ajouter cet information, que ce n,était pas nécessaire. Il me semble que justement c’est une information qui vaut la peine d’être révélé. Ce n’est pas un fait insignifiant comme: Ginny a joué pour un équipe de Q. pendant des année, pourtant pour cet information là tout le monde étaient bien excité…. Je ne comprend pas, c’est juste encore une fois un exemple d’intolérance déguisé.

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Yes, of course it’s a choice. I chose to be faced with discrimination, I chose to be shunned from my church, I chose to be attracted to someone of the same sex. jkr is a phoney, you are an uneducated fool and someday I am glad that people like you will no longer be around. I cannot BELIEVE you compared homosexuality with rapists and murderers. You are the sinner for saying such things.

Posted by Billy on October 20, 2007 @ 01:10 PM

Well I’m glad people like you won’t be around someday either, and that you get your punishment in the after life. Morality exist from the begining and it well continue to exist till judgement day whather you like it or not. I answere your challenge, and you couldn’t come out with a logical reply so we get this stupid post of yours.

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“Well I’m glad people like you won’t be around someday either, and that you get your punishment in the after life. Morality exist from the begining and it well continue to exist till judgement day whather you like it or not. I answere your challenge, and you couldn’t come out with a logical reply so we get this stupid post of yours.” – jky is a phoney

I’m so glad I’m not an asshole like you. :D

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wow, some of you christians need to go read the gospels again. Remeber turning the other cheek? And if any of you make that into a crude comment about gay sex, shame on you.

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Taking the books to be sold now.

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Well at least Dumbledore is dead now. Definitely a step in the right direction. :D

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Sorry Elizabeth, but politely, I as many others on this forum do not agree with your beliefs. Yes, acting on it is a choice, but who I have feelings for is not. That is the truth and reality of the matter.

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It sounds to me almost like JKR is more trying to stir up fans than reveal anything she considers really important. I’m disappointed that, if this was such a big motivation for Dumbledore, it wasn’t revealed more explicitly in the last book.

Maybe I’m just bitter about her short, poorly written, epilogue. I mean, she obviously knew exactly how things turned out for all her characters, so why not give a decent wrap up instead of a Disney Afternoon Special of an ending? Maybe she needs to write a book exploring the characters that aren’t Harry, and give them the resolution and development they deserve.

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Addressed to Billy (Oct. 20 12:40) Respectfully and with great love, I believe you DO have a choice in the matter of being gay; gay people were not born gay, therefore, God did not “put gay people here.” If He had, why would it be considered a sin in the Bible? There are drug addicts and murderers in this world but He did not make them that way, they are what they are by choice. He put you here and you chose to be gay (or, in some way, were influenced to be). I’m not attempting to say He doesn’t like gay people though, because He does and so do I. You can love someone and not love his lifestyle. “Hate the sin; love the sinner.”

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I am going to go ahead and address a few issues. 1. To the people that asked why JK revealed this now I have your answer: this is the first time she was asked. If you notice she doesn’t go around screaming facts about the HP world she waits till she is asked. 2. To the ones that say this isn’t cool and you are ok to say this because you have a gay friend, no it isn’t ok. So you have a gay friend that doesn’t make you any less bigoted when you say those comments. 3. You keep saying it doesn’t add anything to the story well no duh. The story was over with before the epilogue the rest of it is just background information and giving you insight into her characters. If you want to keep your story pure then don’t read anything she has to say about it anymore because the rest are just bonuses. 4. To you people that have decided harry isn’t worth reading anymore because of this send me a message to tjsmith24@hotmail.com and you can send me all your HP stuff I still love it. 5. Way to go Nevil 6. Poor Hagrid at least he has friends 7. Why couldn’t Krum have been gay he is hot. 8. Dumbledore has got style.

I was wondering when we would hear about a gay character in a school that large their had to be one. Now that she has said he is gay it makes sense I mean who is better with their wands then a gay wizard. I’m glad Joe was willing to take a hit on this one she had to know people would accuse her of publicity mongering.

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Funny how you don’t hear anyone saying that it was unecessary of Jo to tell us that Neville is in fact straight and married Hannah Abbott.

Go Dumbledore!!!

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Purple Robes!!

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Well I guess I am one of a few who are not happy about this news. it just was not at all necessary to add sexual lifestyle to Harry Potter in my opinion. I would rather he was not gay and wonder why Jo kept this info to herself for so long. I am grateful that she never really adding it into the books themselves. ( thank goodness!) I would rather she had kept it that way but this is her world to do with as she likes. I for one am not happy about it but I did enjoy the series very much.

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Well I guess I am one of a few who are not happy about this news. it just was not at all necessary to add sexual lifestyle to Harry Potter in my opinion. I would rather he was not gay and wonder why Jo kept this info to herself for so long. I am grateful that she never really added it into the books themselves. ( thank goodness!) I would rather she had kept it that way but this is her world to do with as she likes. I for one am not happy about it but I did enjoy the series very much.

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Love Your Enemies 43 “You have heard that it was said, “You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

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I’ve been reading some of the other comments posted on here. Someone said that they were thankful Christians were a dying breed. That person needs to do some homework. If so, then I guess that means that they Harry Potter series wouldn’t exist. This same web site has an article listed where Rowling explains the parallels the books and Christianity. Harry Potter’ Author J.K. Rowling Opens Up About Books’ Christian Imagery

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HOLLYWOOD — It deals extensively with souls — about keeping them whole and the evil required to split them in two. After one hero falls beyond the veil of life, his whispers are still heard. It starts with the premise that love can save you from death and ends with a proclamation that a sacrifice in the name of love can bring you back from it.

Harry Potter is followed by house-elves and goblins — not disciples — but for the sharp-eyed reader, the biblical parallels are striking. Author J.K. Rowling’s “Harry Potter” books have always, in fact, dealt explicitly with religious themes and questions, but until “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows,” they had never quoted any specific religion.

(SPOILER ALERT! The rest of this story discusses the conclusion of “Deathly Hallows.”)

That was the plan from the start, Rowling told reporters during a press conference at the beginning of her Open Book Tour on Monday. It wasn’t because she was afraid of inserting religion into a children’s story. Rather, she was afraid that introducing religion (specifically Christianity) would give too much away to fans who might then see the parallels.

“To me [the religious parallels have] always been obvious,” she said. “But I never wanted to talk too openly about it because I thought it might show people who just wanted the story where we were going.”

Indeed, at its most simplistic, Harry’s final tale can in some respects be boiled down to a resurrection story, with Harry venturing to a heavenly way station of sorts after getting hit with a killing curse in Chapter 35, only to shortly return. (Read how Rowling revealed the characters’ fates to the “Harry Potter” movies’ stars here.)

But if she was worried about tipping her hand narratively in the earlier books, she clearly wasn’t by the time Harry visits his parents’ graves in Chapter 16 of “Deathly Hallows,” titled “Godric’s Hollow.” On his parents’ tombstone he reads the quote “The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death,” while on another tombstone (that of Dumbledore’s mother and sister) he reads, “Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”

While Rowling said that “Hogwarts is a multifaith school,” these quotes, of course, are distinctly Christian. The second is a direct quote of Jesus from Matthew 6:19, the first from 1 Corinthians 15:26. As Hermione tells Harry shortly after he sees the graves, his parents’ message means “living beyond death. Living after death.” It is one of the central foundations of resurrection theology.

Which makes it a perfect fit for Harry, said Rowling, who was talking about those quotes for the very first time.

“They’re very British books, so on a very practical note Harry was going to find biblical quotations on tombstones,” Rowling explained. “[But] I think those two particular quotations he finds on the tombstones at Godric’s Hollow, they sum up — they almost epitomize the whole series.”

As the one to bring together all three magical Deathly Hallows, Harry, in fact, becomes the “Master of Death” by novel’s end, able to bring back the spirits of his parents, his godfather, Sirius Black and his old teacher Remus Lupin. It’s a conclusion that ends Harry’s three-book-long struggle over questions about the afterlife, which begins when Sirius falls through a veil connecting this world and the next at the end of “Order of the Phoenix.”

“Deathly Hallows” itself begins with two religiously themed epigraphs, one from “The Libation Bearers” by Aeschylus, which calls on the gods to “bless the children”; and one from William Penn’s “More Fruits of Solitude,” which speaks of death as but “crossing the world, as friends do the seas.” No other book in the series begins with epigraphs — a curious fact, perhaps, but one that Rowling insists served as a guiding light.

“I really enjoyed choosing those two quotations because one is pagan, of course, and one is from a Christian tradition,” Rowling said of their inclusion. “I’d known it was going to be those two passages since ‘Chamber’ was published. I always knew [that] if I could use them at the beginning of book seven then I’d cued up the ending perfectly. If they were relevant, then I went where I needed to go.

“They just say it all to me, they really do,” she added.

But while the book begins with a quote on the immortal soul — and though Harry finds peace with his own death at the end of his journey — it is the struggle itself which mirrors Rowling’s own, the author said.

“The truth is that, like Graham Greene, my faith is sometimes that my faith will return. It’s something I struggle with a lot,” she revealed. “On any given moment if you asked me [if] I believe in life after death, I think if you polled me regularly through the week, I think I would come down on the side of yes — that I do believe in life after death. [But] it’s something that I wrestle with a lot. It preoccupies me a lot, and I think that’s very obvious within the books.”

That, by the author’s own acknowledgement, “Harry Potter” deals extensively with Christian themes may be somewhat ironic, considering that many Christian leaders have denounced the series for glamorizing witchcraft. When he was known simply as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Pope himself condemned the books, writing that their “subtle seductions, which act unnoticed … deeply distort Christianity in the soul before it can grow properly.”

For her part, Rowling said she’s proud to be on numerous banned-book lists. As for the protests of some believers? Well, she doesn’t take them as gospel.

“I go to church myself,” she declared. “I don’t take any responsibility for the lunatic fringes of my own religion.”

Also, someone commented that the children should be proud to have role model like Dumbledore be gay. Where I come from, that is not a role model. I’m not bashing gays but I am saying that our children are not taught that is a quality of a role model. In our community our children will be crushed to hear this news. How does an educator explain to nine and ten year oldes that one of their favorite charactors is not who he seems to be?? I have a hard time believe that Rowling would say Dumbledore is gay if she built the whole series around a Christian theme.

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Well I guess I am one of a few who are not happy about this news. it just was not at all necessary to add sexual lifestyle to Harry Potter in my opinion. I would rather he was not gay and wonder why Jo kept this info to herself for so long. I am grateful that she never really added it into the books themselves. ( thank goodness!) I would rather she had kept it that way but this is her world to do with as she likes. I for one am not happy about it but I did enjoy the series very much.

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Kelly I think you are absolutely right, and I’m sorry that all these rude comments are offending you. Guys, if you don’t agree with it, either say it nicely or get out. Think about other people’s feelings for a change.

Grace Wealsey you’re awesome! I’m fourteen myself and feel the same way you do.

Oh and I just opened up the comcast news page and low and behold what do I find? The media will talk about anything these days… It’s not that serious people.

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Well I guess I am one of a few who are not happy about this news. it just was not at all necessary to add sexual lifestyle to Harry Potter in my opinion. I would rather he was not gay and wonder why Jo kept this info to herself for so long. I am grateful that she never really added it into the books themselves. ( thank goodness!) I would rather she had kept it that way but this is her world to do with as she likes. I for one am not happy about it but I did enjoy the series very much.

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I’ve been reading some of the other comments posted on here. Someone said that they were thankful Christians were a dying breed. That person needs to do some homework. If so, then I guess that means that they Harry Potter series wouldn’t exist. This same web site has an article listed where Rowling explains the parallels the books and Christianity. Harry Potter’ Author J.K. Rowling Opens Up About Books’ Christian Imagery

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By Shawn Adler

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HOLLYWOOD — It deals extensively with souls — about keeping them whole and the evil required to split them in two. After one hero falls beyond the veil of life, his whispers are still heard. It starts with the premise that love can save you from death and ends with a proclamation that a sacrifice in the name of love can bring you back from it.

Harry Potter is followed by house-elves and goblins — not disciples — but for the sharp-eyed reader, the biblical parallels are striking. Author J.K. Rowling’s “Harry Potter” books have always, in fact, dealt explicitly with religious themes and questions, but until “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows,” they had never quoted any specific religion.

(SPOILER ALERT! The rest of this story discusses the conclusion of “Deathly Hallows.”)

That was the plan from the start, Rowling told reporters during a press conference at the beginning of her Open Book Tour on Monday. It wasn’t because she was afraid of inserting religion into a children’s story. Rather, she was afraid that introducing religion (specifically Christianity) would give too much away to fans who might then see the parallels.

“To me [the religious parallels have] always been obvious,” she said. “But I never wanted to talk too openly about it because I thought it might show people who just wanted the story where we were going.”

Indeed, at its most simplistic, Harry’s final tale can in some respects be boiled down to a resurrection story, with Harry venturing to a heavenly way station of sorts after getting hit with a killing curse in Chapter 35, only to shortly return. (Read how Rowling revealed the characters’ fates to the “Harry Potter” movies’ stars here.)

But if she was worried about tipping her hand narratively in the earlier books, she clearly wasn’t by the time Harry visits his parents’ graves in Chapter 16 of “Deathly Hallows,” titled “Godric’s Hollow.” On his parents’ tombstone he reads the quote “The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death,” while on another tombstone (that of Dumbledore’s mother and sister) he reads, “Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.”

While Rowling said that “Hogwarts is a multifaith school,” these quotes, of course, are distinctly Christian. The second is a direct quote of Jesus from Matthew 6:19, the first from 1 Corinthians 15:26. As Hermione tells Harry shortly after he sees the graves, his parents’ message means “living beyond death. Living after death.” It is one of the central foundations of resurrection theology.

Which makes it a perfect fit for Harry, said Rowling, who was talking about those quotes for the very first time.

“They’re very British books, so on a very practical note Harry was going to find biblical quotations on tombstones,” Rowling explained. “[But] I think those two particular quotations he finds on the tombstones at Godric’s Hollow, they sum up — they almost epitomize the whole series.”

As the one to bring together all three magical Deathly Hallows, Harry, in fact, becomes the “Master of Death” by novel’s end, able to bring back the spirits of his parents, his godfather, Sirius Black and his old teacher Remus Lupin. It’s a conclusion that ends Harry’s three-book-long struggle over questions about the afterlife, which begins when Sirius falls through a veil connecting this world and the next at the end of “Order of the Phoenix.”

“Deathly Hallows” itself begins with two religiously themed epigraphs, one from “The Libation Bearers” by Aeschylus, which calls on the gods to “bless the children”; and one from William Penn’s “More Fruits of Solitude,” which speaks of death as but “crossing the world, as friends do the seas.” No other book in the series begins with epigraphs — a curious fact, perhaps, but one that Rowling insists served as a guiding light.

“I really enjoyed choosing those two quotations because one is pagan, of course, and one is from a Christian tradition,” Rowling said of their inclusion. “I’d known it was going to be those two passages since ‘Chamber’ was published. I always knew [that] if I could use them at the beginning of book seven then I’d cued up the ending perfectly. If they were relevant, then I went where I needed to go.

“They just say it all to me, they really do,” she added.

But while the book begins with a quote on the immortal soul — and though Harry finds peace with his own death at the end of his journey — it is the struggle itself which mirrors Rowling’s own, the author said.

“The truth is that, like Graham Greene, my faith is sometimes that my faith will return. It’s something I struggle with a lot,” she revealed. “On any given moment if you asked me [if] I believe in life after death, I think if you polled me regularly through the week, I think I would come down on the side of yes — that I do believe in life after death. [But] it’s something that I wrestle with a lot. It preoccupies me a lot, and I think that’s very obvious within the books.”

That, by the author’s own acknowledgement, “Harry Potter” deals extensively with Christian themes may be somewhat ironic, considering that many Christian leaders have denounced the series for glamorizing witchcraft. When he was known simply as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the Pope himself condemned the books, writing that their “subtle seductions, which act unnoticed … deeply distort Christianity in the soul before it can grow properly.”

For her part, Rowling said she’s proud to be on numerous banned-book lists. As for the protests of some believers? Well, she doesn’t take them as gospel.

“I go to church myself,” she declared. “I don’t take any responsibility for the lunatic fringes of my own religion.”

Also, someone commented that the children should be proud to have role model like Dumbledore be gay. Where I come from, that is not a role model. I’m not bashing gays but I am saying that our children are not taught that is a quality of a role model. In our community our children will be crushed to hear this news. How does an educator explain to nine and ten year oldes that one of their favorite charactors is not who he seems to be?? I have a hard time believing that Rowling would say Dumbledore is gay if she built the whole series around a Christian theme.

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So rediculous… It just seems so contrived. This is the kind of thing that you reveal in the narrative, not come back to and announce later, because it juse seems so phoney now, like she is just trying to play “Shock and Awe”. I would have had no problem with this at all, if she would have made this a part of DDs character in the series itself. This is like George Lucas making the first three Star Wars movies, without the Luke/Vader father thing, only to call a press conference months later to just casually announce, that Darth Vader was Luke’s father. I’ve lost respect for JKR for this.

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Elizabeth this is for you. 1. Please do not basis your ideas on homosexuality off of a mistranslated book. If you want to know what God really said on the subject go back to the original Hebrew and Greek. Remember that Leviticus was made for the levites and not everyone and that sodom was destroyed for inhospitality.

2. Trust me no one chooses to be gay. Could you choose to be gay? Could you fall in love with someone of the same sex and have sex with them and enjoy it? Could you live with people telling you you are going to hell? And the beatings and torment a person goes through with being gay? Who would choose that?

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Well I guess I am one of a few who are not happy about this news. it just was not at all necessary to add sexual lifestyle to Harry Potter in my opinion. I would rather he was not gay and wonder why Jo kept this info to herself for so long. I am grateful that she never really added it into the books themselves. ( thank goodness!) I would rather she had kept it that way but this is her world to do with as she likes. I for one am not happy about it but I did enjoy the series very much.

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Do Not Judge 1 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. 3And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? 4Or how can you say to your brother, “Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? 5Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 6”Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

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I don’t understand why people have such a big issue with the fact that Rowling only mentioned this now. Clearly, she didn’t have a need to mention it in the books because there was never a need for her to explain Dumbledore’s romantic feelings for anyone. She only mentiones it now because the question asked to her was very explicit and specific. I really think people who claim she did it after the fact or that she did it to seem policially correct are dead wrong on their assumptions. J.K. Rowling has time and time again stated that in her mind, her story has been pretty much set in stone and she wouldn’t change it for anyone. To her, the Harry Potter books are not for political messages or agendas, they are works of art and like any artist with a vision she won’t change it for anyone or anything just to seem “politically correct.”

I’m glad to see that there is finally a well writen, non-sterotypical homosexual character. People forget that sexuality doesn’t dictate whether or not you’re a good person and doesn’t dictate what talents you have. That one of her most human, most talented, most flawed, and most benevolent characters just so happens to be homosexual is an amazing thing. It goes against all those negative, false views people have of homosexuality.

I give her a lot of credit not for being an amazing writer (she is!), but more than anything for being such an open-minded human being.

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Well I guess I am one of a few who are not happy about this news. it just was not at all necessary to add sexual lifestyle to Harry Potter in my opinion. I would rather he was not gay and wonder why Jo kept this info to herself for so long. I am grateful that she never really added it into the books themselves. ( thank goodness!) I would rather she had kept it that way but this is her world to do with as she likes. I for one am not happy about it but I did enjoy the series very much. This just seems like some kind of cheap trick to me.

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Thank you Flare Husky, I am so proud that there are people like you around that know the truth. :)

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I have so much respect for this woman now.

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There were hint in Deathly Hallows, about dumbledore being gay. And JK Rowling made my day, by revealing this. Dumbledore is cool and gay. You are the best Jk Rowling.

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Oh so good! My Grindeldore mania turned reality:) Jo rocks! They are the curest pair ever! XD beams like mad Cheers Jo!

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I am extremely happy that Dumbledore is gay. I’ll admit though, my gay-dar did tell me something when i read Dumbledore & Grindelwald’s story. I am from now on offcially Dumbledores Husband…. I have legal documents to prove it ;)

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For about the eight hundredth time, there was love and sexuality in HP to begin with. Ron and Hermione spend most of book 7 making out, for God’s sake. Please try to keep in your head that we know or at least have some evidence of the sexual orientation of Ron, Hermione, Harry, Ginny, Mr. and Mrs. Weasley, Lupin, Tonks, and every other character we see in love or attracted to someone in the series. A whole mess of people are attracted to people of the opposite sex in the series, and now we know of at least one who was attracted to someone of the same sex. It’s entirely analogous.

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Well, all I can say is go JKR! I think it is great that DD is gay, it just adds another dimension to his character and his motivations. I agree with JKR though, can’t wait to read the fan-fic!

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I think what Rowling did was outrageous; she finishes writing her last book in the series collecting her millions BEFORE making such a daring statement. This was a cowardly act in my opinion, had she made this statement before selling her first book one could doubt it would have made her a billionaire, so she kept it a ‘secret’. How ‘tolerant’ is that?

In my opinion, the statement is a lie, she probably came up with this nonsense just to make political hay now that the series is finished and the limelight is over. With no true indication at all that any of the characters were ‘gay’, she could have picked ANYONE to make light of. If you are homosexual, you should be upset that she chose to bury this aspect of the character instead of proudly proclaiming it in the first place. If you are anti-homosexual you will be upset that your child’s most favorite books are now considered ‘subversive’. Either way, I have lost my respect for ths author.

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Billy: Me being gay probably has something to do with it. I just don’t understand why don’t they trying being gay? I mean if it is so easily to switch try it and mean it. Take a few beatings because they love someone. Still wish I could of had Krum but the head pimp himself works too.

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Oh my god, I cant believe it!!! No way, it cant be true…It just cant….I always thought

that Hagrid will marry Madam Maxim – but he stayed single – that’s sad.

What a bombshell of a revelation. Come on guys what are your thoughts, there’s not much else to talk about is there ;)

A thousand comments and no mention of Hagrid, molly, neville, Abbott :(

And please some of you, stop insulting each other and think about the children reading on this board.

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I aggree with Carly, I believe this was a cheap trick. J.K. is being insincere for some unknown reason. Why did she not make the sexuality of the DD obvious? You could have picked Snipe or a host of others to make that statement over…

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Martin: She couldn’t actually pick anyone because well most of them were caught snogging or married. Why proclaim it loud not like she is trying to make a huge political statement with it. If she wanted more publicity she could just say she is writing another book and bam plenty to go with. She did it the best way and the way it happens in real life. You get to know a person first and if you trust them you let them in on the fact you are gay. You don’t just run around screaming about it, well most of us don’t anyway.

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Bah… stop it.. there’s nothing wrong about being gay, I’m not, but few of my best friends are gay. What I don’t like about this is… If she always knew Dumbledore was way… why not using it. She says it now and too many says OOOH HOW BRAAAVE… but she isn’t. She should have use it IN THE BOOK.. I’m not saying she should have write a love scene or something… but use in a wonderful way… so many people with prejudice could open their minds and so… or maybe not… but take the risk at least. To say it now for me (and I’m sorry if this ofend some of you, it’s not my intention really) is like.. “OK everyone allready bought my book, i can take a risk now” But that way it has no meaning… bah… anyway..

MND

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I have no problem with anything she said but I don’t see the logic of saying what the characters did if it isnt in the books. Yes, people will be interested in “what happened next” but thats the whole point of reading – you dont always get to find out what happens. Book endings are always sort of cliff-hangers, I think it’s wrong to say who married who etc if its not in the book. Yes she IS the author and she DID make it up in the first place but in my mind if its not in the book it never happened.

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I am so happy. I actually picked up on the clues in book 7, and I was shipping D/G happily but never expecting it to be revealed as canon! Go Jo!

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You gotta figure that when someone makes a statement that’s deliberately provocative, then that person is seeking attention. Poor Ms. Rowling. Now that the book series is over, apparently she’s still desperately trying to stay in the spotlight. And she’s certainly getting some press over this, although I think most people are just going to think she’s pretty foolish. I can’t think of Dumbledore now without wanting to laugh. As for the series itself…I’ve read every book, and I have to agree with a British journalist who recently described Rowling as “Britian’s greatest typist”. As for you guys here…move on to better books now. Try Tolkein and C.S. Lewis. You’ll find out what good fantasy writing is really like.

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JKR knows her last book was complete rubbish! To beef up the story by putting into it a gay character afterwards does not make the book any better. Just awkward.

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I cried happy tears when I found out. Not gonna lie.

Poor Dumbledore, such a strong man for never giving up hope for love in the world even when he never had true love himself.

What a wonderful man. Remember Albus Dumbledore.

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- First, It was revealed in DH that Dumbledore and Grindelwald were very close for a short period of time. And yes it may have seemed like their relationship was just a platonic friendship or worse, an obsession. Jo just cleared it up for us. Besides imagine how ridiculous it would have been for dumbledore to come out of the closet in the Kings Cross chapter. “Yes Harry, I’m dead…and gay.” That’s not Jo’s style, she’s more subtle. - Second, being of said life style I find it extremely offensive when people compare being gay to alcoholism and drug addiction. So please don’t do it in your posts! alcoholism and drug addiction are terrible diseases that affect really nice, good people. They deserve our support and love, to help them get sober and on with their lives. Homosexuality is not a disease, but homophobia is! (hate = fear = phobia)

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Ohh yes she just can’t be a risk taker. NO i mean everyone has already bought tickets to the movies that are going to come out where she will be getting some money.

Oh and that thing about molly and Bellatrix is great. I am glad she didn’t kill off Aurthur that would have been sad. Hagrid has always been a bit of a loner anyway especially with his love of the animals I wasn’t surprised he ended up alone.

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“If you are homosexual, you should be upset that she chose to bury this aspect of the character instead of proudly proclaiming it in the first place.”

I’m homosexual and I’m hardly upset about it. As I said before, she didn’t really have a need to mention it until the question was asked. I for one don’t walk around with the word “gay” on stamped on my forehead and I don’t see a reason to. I don’t hide it either. If the subject comes up, such as someone asking me about my “girlfriend” then I tell them and correct them and let them know that I happen to be homosexual. I think she did the same thing with Dumbledore. She didn’t really have a need to make a huge point of it but she mentioned it when she was asked. She wasn’t really “hidding” it, so much as just she didn’t see the need to explicitly point it out unless the subject was raised.

Furthermore, you have to understand that it wasn’t just that bit about Dumbledore that we didn’t know about. Throughout the series, Rowling keeps Dumbledore a mystery to the readers and even so, what do we know about him currently? Still not very much except his relationship to Grindewald. Dumbledore is portrayed as a very “private” character, which is very human. I don’t quite see a reason why Dumbledore would ever have to make a mention of being homosexual in the story, considering (as I mentioned) that his romantic life was never explored at all.

So no, I take no offense and I am not even slightly upset at what J.K. Rowling has revealed.

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Elfster: I don’t like your suggestion that Dumbledore being gay ruines the story. If you truely beleive that then you are intolerant. Its not nonsense. Yes, i realise that it seems silly because its a childrens book series but just because its fantasy about wizards and whitches doesn’t mean there isn’t gay people there too. Think about how many characters there are, its like of course someone had to end up being gay! I have no problem with it, in fact i think its great, children need to get used to and accept that there are gay people in the world and thats theres nothing wrong with it. I’ve seen childrens cartoon series with gay characters, it’s just another part of the world. Dumbledore being gay doesn’t change him at all, he’s still exactly the same character we read about in the books! Dumbledore rocks!!

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I thought I was falling for another Onion article.

Of course it makes perfect sense. I don’t know why I didn’t seriously consider it before. And I mean seriously consider him any more than any other character (for the books’ intents and purposes) like Slughorn (who I still think might also be gay too) It would explain why Grindewald lives. Dumbledore must have done more than duel him, he must have vouched for him too. Otherwise (if he was as bad as Voldemort) they would’ve had the dementors kiss him and I think only a necro. could dig that.

And to the *-* who have a problem with this whole Dumbledore being gay thing: Did you read these books? Did you walk away from them with anything? I think JKR did want to stir up debate with this statement. People have to face their bigotry. As a heterosexual man (who’s happened to live in NYC his whole life) I can’t believe what I’m reading, here of all places. Anyone who likes these books (I would imagine) should be opposed to the sort of intolerance and ignorance I’ve been reading here. Maybe they’re just tourists trying to spread their ignorance. And incidentally gay people don’t have any choice over the matter, just like the rest of us don’t have any control over what our feelings go through during puberty and after.

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Great! Why be so abashed by it? Rowling has shown herself as a real great and openminded writer, so Dumbledore being gay is no big deal. One thing, though: MUST see the next gay pride parade – I wonder how many Dumbledores and Grindelwalds there will be in sparkling robes ;-)

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Wow, DD being gay really is big news. It’s on aol.com, yahoo.com, cnn.com, foxnews.com. It’s everywhere, which I guess shouldn’t be surprising.

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“Besides imagine how ridiculous it would have been for dumbledore to come out of the closet in the Kings Cross chapter. Yes Harry, I’m dead…and gay’.”

I “LOL’ed” when I read that!

So there is an even more interesting subject that not many people bring up and I’m wondering about: Rowling mentions that Dumbledore fell in with Grindewald. But she never mentions whether Grindewald ever returned the feelings or not. I think that’s a much more iteresting discussion than anything. It’s quite possible that Dumbledore’s feeling were never returned by Grindewald and that Dumbledore might have never even told Grindewald how he felt about him. It makes Dumbledore such a tragic character.

Although there ARE hints that could suggest that it wasn’t just unrequitted love, but that it was actually a romance between the two. As I remember it, Grindewald is supposed to have “given up” in the duel which could signify that despite everything he love Dumbledore as well. Even more so, Grindewald shows a lot of remorse for his actions in the final book, so much as even refusing to tell Voldemort where the Elder Wand is.

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Everyone is excited about having a positive gay character like Dumbledore :)

Is anyone else pleased to see a positive portrayal of another alternative lifestyle in Aberforth?

It’s nice to know that JK is so open-minded about personal choices that she doesn’t distinguish between any mutually beneficial relationship!

3 cheers for tolerance!

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HA! thats pretty cool… but that still doesnt excuse what he did to Harry :D :) :/ :D but still he was kinda a jerk in book 7

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I think JKR knows her book is complete rubbish. Therefore she said something about a gay DD, just to beef it up. The late out coming does not make the book any better, only awkward. And you guys who praise the lady now are quite naive, to say so.

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p.s. sarah, you rock!! i totally agree with your comment! u seem like a lovely person!

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Guys, Leaky just put up the full transcript but they admit there may be some slight errors in translation. Yaaay

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Being gay doesn’t mean hitting on everyone of the same sex just like being hetero doesn’t mean hitting on everyone of the opposite sex.

People are still selective.

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Just my two cents (and this may have already been said, I don’t have time to read all these comments)...does it really matter? I just sort of laughed when I read this and thought back to his eccentric robes :D. It doesn’t change anything about his character at all. As to why she mentioned it now…well, she was asked about it now. I think I also read in the comments that people did not see the relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald as a romantic one; Jo never said it was. She merely said Dumbledore loved Grindelwald. It doesn’t come off as a romantic relationship in the books because I don’t think it was. It sounds more like a case of unrequited love. I doubt Dumbledore ever even told Grindelwald of his feelings. I don’t know, personally, I just took this as a mildly interesting piece of character information. And finally, as to the bizarre comments about Dumbledore coming on to Harry and what not…he’s gay, not a pedophile. Two very different things.

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I have to agree with the comments that this comment about DD’s sexual identity was unnecessary and tabloid-like. I absolutely LOVE the epic, and I think Jo is an awesome author. But there was NO need to add more hype to her books or her life. Did she REALLY want to drag her work aimed mostly at kids into the gutter? I’m talking about bringing sex (in any form) into the books. The innocence of first loves, crushes, etc., was PERFECT without bringing adult-type situations and issues to the books/characters. That’s my two-sense worth.

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This is awesome. Jo doesn’t need the money, so I’m glad it will drive Christians, homophobes, and generally anyone who equates homosexuality with pederasty away from the book. These people have been screwing up the world for the past 2000 years. It seems like literary justice for them to excluded from enjoying one of the greatest stories ever told until they can get their heads on straight (no pun intended) and realize that gay people are just like the rest of us.

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Enough with Aberforth and his goats! I don’t want to think about it.

We should be celebrating the fact that Arthur Weasley is still alive! And Molly Weasley,the great post-feminist hero! See, you can be a stay at home mom and be an ass kicker too! Take that patriarchy!

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Post-script to my previous comment:

I agree with the comments by Martin on Oct. 20, 2007. Martin was right-on!

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Most useless piece of information EVER, when you guys get over the “OMG Jo RULES!!!” attitude and state of mind…. What does this add to anything? Was it ever hinted? No. Does it change anything Dumbledore did in the books? No. Oh maybe it’s because it means she’s inclusive!!

Well gosh, no, it wasn’t a part of the books, but an interview taking place now that the new HP book is no longer the cool new thing to talk about.

It just seems as if she said it for the sake of shocking people and that is absolutely LAME.

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“I have to agree with the comments that this comment about DD’s sexual identity was unnecessary and tabloid-like.”

I can understand as to why people would think so, but as said before here by many others, it wasn’t a matter of her just bringing it up. It’s not as it she was reading a sentence from Deathly Hollows and stopped half way through just to say: “Oh, by the way, Dumbledore was gay.” She was asked a legitimate question about his love life and she gave a legitimate answer. It was never really necessary for her to point it out anywhere, with the exception of being asked and as mentioned, the Dumbledore character being so private that the possibility that he would have given a truthful answer was very unlikely.

Remember, for example, what Dumbledore answered when Harry asked him what he saw in the Mirror of Erised. He gave Harry an eccentrict and obviously false answer, and Rowling goes on to say in the same scene that Harry realized the question was a bit too personal.

“I absolutely LOVE the epic, and I think Jo is an awesome author. But there was NO need to add more hype to her books or her life. Did she REALLY want to drag her work aimed mostly at kids into the gutter? I’m talking about bringing sex (in any form) into the books. The innocence of first loves, crushes, etc., was PERFECT without bringing adult-type situations and issues to the books/characters. That’s my two-sense worth.”

The fact of the matter is that innocence of first loves and crushes are experienced by everyone, regardless of their sexuality, so I don’t quite agree with you. Furthermore, you have to remember that while people think of the Harry Potter series as a children’s story, Rowling doesn’t quite see it that way. Your complaint about the adult themes in the story are about as justified as the complaints of how dark the story gets towards the end in relation to violence. It’s part of her artistic vision and what she wants to do, regardless of whether people out there wrongly peg her books as being designed specifically for children.

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She was asked about this question (the one below about aberforth and goats) but she side step it. Why not side step the dd is gay thing. she makes up these things anyway. she didn’t have to give that answer. That is why people are asking why now.

Q: In the Goblet of Fire Dumbledore said his brother was prosecuted for practicing inappropriate charms [JKR buries her head, to laughter] on a goat; what were the inappropriate charms he was practicing on that goat?

JKR: How old are you?

Eight.

JKR: I think that he was trying to make a goat that was easy to keep clean [laughter], curly horns. That’s a joke that works on a couple of levels. I really like Aberforth and his goats. But you know Aberforth having this strange fondness for goats if you’ve read book seven, came in really useful to Harry, later on, because a goat, a stag, you know. If you’re a stupid Death Eater, what’s the difference. So, that is my answer to YOU.

[loud applause]

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Finally some people here who are not ready to praise JKR for nothing. Well said, guys. She should have written the last book (maybe by taking more time for it) instead of making dispensable statements what maybe could have been or should have been.

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I’ve seen lots of examples of adolescent boys having crushes on other boys but going on to be straight. I put Dumbledore down as one of those. But his generation would not have ” come out” easily, it was a different time. And we know how close Dumbledore is with his secrets. I’m still more worried about Aberforth and his goat.

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I’ve been reading a lot of these comments and you people are so self centered!! THESE BOOKS WERE MEANT FOR CHILDREN!! Think about what their brains are going to be thinking about when they here this news after reading this news. Children are easily confused. STOP BEING SO SELF ABSORBED IN WHETHER YOU SUPPORT DUMBLEDORE BEING GAY OR NOT AND BE CONCERNED WITH HOW YOU ARE GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOUR CHILD, NIECE, NEWPHEW, OR FRIEND!!

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Total did not need to know that. Their is nothing wrong with being gay,however do we need it pushed down our throats. Im so upset with j.k. right now. Why should I now have to explain this to my 9 year old. It wast in the cannon. Why bring this up now? Are book sales that low?

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everyone go read what grace weasley said on page 25. i think it was the best way anyone has put it so far.

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I’m going to be another one of those people who will wear a Dumbledore shirt next Pride Day, as others have said they’re going to do. YAY DUMBLEDORE, and YAY JKR for being so brave!

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Explain what? A child will read these books and think Dumbledore was manipulative but is very unlikely to think “Gee, I wonder if he was gay?”, that’s the last thing ou end up thinking of him, really.

Such a George Lucas thing to do…

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I totally agree with Martin. Why take up such a sensitive issue, which she clearly knows will upset certain people and that too when it doesn’t add anything to the story? The same morals could have been established if Dd and grindelwald were friends. And all those people who have been rambling about how brave Jo was, well if she was so brave and if she feels it adds to the theme of the book.WHY NOT MAKE IT CANON? I am sorry Jo, but you just took away the reading pleasure of so many children.There are a lot of parents who freak at such issues and they’re gonna prevent their children from reading these books now. Not to mention all people who are quite religious,who have been obsessed with Hp before, who won’t be able to see these books in the same light again.

But then again.She doesnt have to care.She’s published and sold her books and got everyone to read the books.Way to go Jo..

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“She was asked about this question (the one below about aberforth and goats) but she side step it. Why not side step the dd is gay thing. she makes up these things anyway. she didn’t have to give that answer. That is why people are asking why now.”

Because it’s two different things. Clearly, the issue with Aberforth can be constituted as “beastiality,” or at least it is hinted as, in a semi-humorous way in the story. It’s different in the sense that she it’s HEAVILY hinted at and left for people to draw their own conclusions. The question asked of Dumbledore is not something that was known or very much hinted at (if done so, it was done subtly).

The issue of homosexuality is something completely separate. Rowling obviously sees nothing wrong with homosexuality and thus has no need to “side step” the question.

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The fact of the matter is that innocence of first loves and crushes are experienced by everyone, regardless of their sexuality, so I don’t quite agree with you. Furthermore, you have to remember that while people think of the Harry Potter series as a children’s story, Rowling doesn’t quite see it that way. Your complaint about the adult themes in the story are about as justified as the complaints of how dark the story gets towards the end in relation to violence. It’s part of her artistic vision and what she wants to do, regardless of whether people out there wrongly peg her books as being designed specifically for children.

Posted by Kharlo on October 20, 2007 @ 02:50 PM

If jkr doesn’t see it that way, why have 18 and under in her book tour. I believe they are considered children. These are children book, and they are targeted at children. Her audiance being full of school kids are prove of that.

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Neville married Hannah!! ^ It’s funny, because before Luna’s appearance in the fifth book, I always thought that he was going to end up with Hannah!! I don’t know why I thought that, but I just kind of felt like they would be cute together. Then came Luna, and I thought that he would be better with her, but since Jo told that he didn’t end up with Luna, I thought about Hannah again. Yay!! ^

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It’s simple, let them know that everyone should be treated well no matter who they are whether that be of a different race, gender, sexual orientation, disability, etc.

Let me tell you a little story. I was the PR & Awareness Week chair for the GLBT group at my college last year. Every year we have a speaker come for awareness week, this year we had a wonderful Transgender librarian come. At one point during her presentation, she was asked about how her grandchildren took to the fact that she was now grandma instead of grandpa. In response, she said she explained to them what Transgender was, and, guess what? They took it just fine. Another time, she was with her grandchildren at a PRIDE parade, and she said to them something along the lines of “Isn’t it wonderful how we can all be here and everyone can just be who they are?” and her granddaughter, around 5 at the time replied “Yea, that’s really cool!”

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Wow…

This news officially and utterly completes my life.

but…OMG I totally knew he was gay! I so called that! Ah this makes Harry Potter 1234892638956X even more magnificient!!

And for the past years of reading the series I have been thinking, “I wonder why JK hasn’t ever announced any gay people?” and I have been wondering exactly which ones were gay and now it’s official…....I praised the contrevertiality of JK. She deserves to be president of the universe…...and so does Dumbledore. Hey I just realized….since my cat is named Albus this makes his gay haha….

I’m going to go sit in a corner and read Harry Potter (especially the parts with Dumbledore) now….:-)

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“STOP BEING SO SELF ABSORBED IN WHETHER YOU SUPPORT DUMBLEDORE BEING GAY OR NOT AND BE CONCERNED WITH HOW YOU ARE GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOUR CHILD, NIECE, NEWPHEW, OR FRIEND!!”

How you are going to explain what? That the character is homosexual? You don’t have to explain it, at least not a young age, but really it’s not as if you’re being asked to explain unicorns. It’s not as if you’re being asked to explain something far fetched. Homosexuality, whether or not you agree with it, exists in the world you live in and whether you choose to explain it properly or not, everyone will eventually have to encounter that reality.

But as mentioned, it doesn’t even have to be explained because it’s not explicitly pointed out in the books. Most adults would not even figure it out unless Rowling mentioned it and most likely children won’t pick up on it either.

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Ah but thats just the point isn’t it? There are so many posts about “why did you reveal that, people are going to get upset”. And? I mean, isn’t that something we all can learn about tolerance? The world isn’t sugar coated, like those Walgreens commercials on TV (for those of you in the US). There is controversy, there are things that people don’t agree with. Homosexuality, whether you agree with it or not, is a part of our society. She wasn’t saying it to stir controversy, she was answering a question and stating a fact. If you truly share and understand Christs love, the fact that someone is straight or gay would make no difference in how you would view them as a human being. “Love they neighbor as you would love thyself”. Sexual orientation is VASTLY different from pedophilia and promiscuity as many of you have compared it too. According to some of these arguments, a woman going around and having sex with as many guys as she can sink her teeth into is ok but a woman going around and having sex with as many girls she can find isn’t. But thats besides the point. The point is that just because he is gay it changes nothing. He is still Dumbledore, but just because of one announcement ya’ll are ready to burn him and scorn JKR. “ZOMG! GAYNESS! EVERYTHING WE ONCE LOVED IS NOW EVAL AND TARNISHED!”. So what if people will be upset? Nothing would ever change if people kept their mouths shut about what might upset others. Change only comes when people rock the boat and dare to challenge other people’s thinking. If you are a truly tolerant person and still see Dumbledore as the greatest wizard ever, then the fact that JKR outed him should make no difference to you. If it does, then I question your opinion on what tolerance and love of your fellow man really means.

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Explain what? That a character that you love that you preceived one way in your 9 year old mind is a total differnt way. Somithing you hear after the fact . After you invest all that reading .

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I can’t believe that people are saying that Dumbledore being gay ruins the books. You probably liked him perfectly well before you knew his orientation – and it didn’t suddenly change. He’s still the same character.

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Whoa, slow down your thestrals people!!! Why would this stupid, worthless trivia ruin anything for children or make you think “they shouldn’t read the books”??? It’s not canon if it isn’t on the books, unless you’re George Lucas and think interviews are good ways to rewrite your story.

There is nothing wrong with the books other than a certain lack of quality towards the end of the series, and nothing there to pervert your dear, innocent little ones. Which is why this controversy was not necessary and is absolutely lame.

The inflammatory comments and reading too much into everything (OMG!!! Aberforth likes goats!!! Slughorn always hung around children!!!) is something adults will do but won’t forcibly come to the mind of a child. So let’s allow them to be innocent, and should they figure anything out, be responsible and explain them that not all boys like girls and vice versa.

Still, those of you saying “Oooh Jo’s so brave I love her!!” probably would think hitting the school bully from the back while he ties his shoes is the same as facing him when he’s doing his thing in the yard. It was not brave, it was pathetic, and cowardly. You want to make a statement, you do it in your books, like Lupin and his condition that turned him into a social outcast, or the Mudblood not being right thing. But not this way.

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“If jkr doesn’t see it that way, why have 18 and under in her book tour. I believe they are considered children. These are children book, and they are targeted at children. Her audiance being full of school kids are prove of that.”

Good point, but tell me, don’t think the last book is quite dark for a “children’s” story? From the fourth book on the story becomes amazingly violent. In the final book alone, you lose count of just how many people are tortured and killed. She nearly murders half the character cast in the final chapter, something akin to Shakespearian tragedy. I don’t quite understand as to why parents would be so opposed to the character of Albus Dumbledore being homosexual and how to “explain that to their nine year old” when there are far worse things happening in the story that could psychologically affect a child. The violent imagery, the constant deaths, the murders, the torture, the horrible prejudice displayed by the Death Eaters, etc. are things that I would hardly call a part of children’s fiction.

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Dumbledore being gay makes him a thousand times more cool. And I totally called it when I was reading DH.

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Personally, I always pictured Dumbledore as Asexual, as if he was so above normal people that he transcended sexuality.

That said, the fact that he is gay doesn’t bother me. After DH we saw that he, like all humans, had loved before, had regrets, had secrets, had normal problems. This isn’t that shocking. And Dumbledore is STILL Dumbledore! He’s still awesome, powerful, and humourous. So what if he’s gay? To each, his own.

My only problem with this news is that now many idiotic people (the ones that have never even read the books and merely burn them) are going to make fun of the whole Harry Potter series and claim that it is all “gay” and perverted, etc. etc. I hope Potter will still be remembered for the wonderful story that it is, and not just for one of its characters’ sexual orientation.

On another note, I think all of the Petunia information is awesome. I always knew Petunia would be revealed to love Harry deep down, and the connection that he always provided her to the wizarding world.

PETUNIA ROCKS!

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I don’t quite get why people are reacting so strongly about this. She didn’t bring sex to the books. After all we already had a bunch of hetero sexual characters there, it’s the same thing really. How to explain a gay character to a child? Well that’s quite easy, some boys like boys and some like girls. That’s how the world works.

This piece of information is not important to the plot, it doesn’t need to be in the books. She was asked a question and she answered it. Get over it.

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i just would like to say that after almost falling out of my chair when i first read this news, its slowly starting to settle in. in all honesty i really don’t think it changes much for me at all really. dumbledore shouldn’t be defined by his sexuallity – nor should anyone else.

and really hope people will grow up with the “i hope he doesn’t have a crush on harry” comments, i know most people are joking when they say this, but for those who aren’t i would really like you to realize that just because he was gay doesn’t mean he was any more attracted to underage boys that if he were straight, i never used to hear “i hope he wasn’t attracted to hermione..”

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I’d like to know what Michael Gambon has to say about that ???? ;-)

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“Hopefully they won’t saturate the movies with this kind of trash, and still make them decent for children to watch. Weather you like it or not, its not normal! Will never be Normal and hopfully there will always be people out there that won’t accept it as the norm. call it what ever you want, but ignorance can be used in several ways.”

What isn’t normal, if anything, is the absolute and utter hatred people have for another human being over something so meaningless. Who someone loves and what those two consenting adults do in private really doesn’t ever harm you.

And for the record, not to turn this into an argument about homosexuality, but you should be aware that homosexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom outside of the human race. It is something completely and utterly natural, more natural than the computer you used to type that message. If you’re going to seriously sit there and tell me that you shun anything that is unnatural than you might as well toss out every advancement in technology, and more importantly, in medicine that humanity has made in the past few hundred years.

I’m so horrified with some people’s attitudes, specially of the parents who BEFORE this announcement allowed their children to read the books but not consider them “tarnished.” It is perfectly acceptable for children to see and read violence but not to see and read about love. The quote never fit so perfectly as how sad it is that “we, as a society are more comfortable seeing to men holding guns than two men holding hands.” It’s downright shameful.

Mercifully, as to your comment of how there will always be people who will see homosexuality as unnatural, there are also open minded people out there who understand that there is much more to a human being than that and what matters most is not WHO you love, but how DEEPLY you can love.

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One other thing comes to mind: how the slash shippers on fanfic sites got this all wrong with the H/R/D/Snape/Lupin/Sirius/Lucius/ Neville pairings…time to update guys and delete your archives…

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I have been reading responses to the announcement that Dumbledore is gay. It’s interesting that people say “Oh, such and such was a sign.” So if I wear blue as a female and cut my hair short, am I a lesbian? Is that guy with a pink shirt gay? For self-proclaimed open-minded individuals, this seems pretty narrow. As for his back story with Grindelwald, I’m not entirely sure that this relationship stands out as any different than Sirius and James – a relationship between men who respect each other to the point of idolization. Deep friendship between men doesn’t necessarily mean gay.

And, while I agree that it’s important to have strong, positive gay figures especially in books that aren’t gay-centric (sexuality isn’t the focus of the book), I don’t think that this particular revelation was handled well. To me, this sounds like an attempt to jump on the gay-is-the-way-to-fame bandwagon. It seems especially strange given the emphasis on heterosexual relationships in the books. James/Lily, Lupin/Nyphadora, Harry/Ginny, Ron/Hermione, The Weasleys, Mr and Mrs Ted Tonks, and all of the other romances and families we hear about. The family unit is always heterosexual. Her loan homosexual is a lonely old man with a dysfunctional past. Given the thematic importance of family and love to the books, doesn’t it seem strange that Dumbledore has neither love nor a family with which he is close? That for him, these two things (family and love) are broken or damaged somehow? So even though Dumbledore was powerful and a respectable figure, he was denied those heterosexual comforts of family and love. Hmm…Sounds awful familiar doesn’t it? So if you’re gay, you can have the good jobs, fame and fortune, but marriage and family are for straight people only. Doesn’t sound politically correct to me.

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LMAO at everyone freaking out. It doesn’t MATTER, guys. Gay people are NORMAL and should be treated as such. I don’t know why everyone in the world treats it like it’s taboo. There are even animals who are gay in the wild. (Wolves and birds and such, look it up!)

Anyhow, Jo was right to bring it up at last. She had kept it under wraps because she knew the kind of narrow-minded reaction she’d get and didn’t know how many people it would actually make happy. Notice that for every one post of people saying ‘Waaah wah wah’ there’s about fifteen more going ‘THAT’S AWESOME!’

Makes sense as pertaining to the story anyway because homosexuals in many parts of the world are persecuted, much like the muggle-born and muggles are persecuted in the books. Dumbledore came from a pureblood family, but still has kind views on all manner of witch or wizard and no wonder – he’s had to deal with the same sort of prejudices on account he’s not getting married and having children to further his family tree.

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“Er, no. Since Grindelwald was always sorta bent on world domination, y’know.”

If Dumbledore had his way that’s not the only thing he’d be “bent” on. :) hahaha.

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Pixie: Good point but I’m not quite sure the Dumbledore seperation was because he was homosexual. I think Rowling has stated time and again that what seperates him and brings him to a point of loneliness is the fact that he happens to be exceptionally gifted with intelligence (regardless of his sexuality). I don’t quite think she chose to keep him alone simply on the basis of stereotyping that him being homosexual would make him a lonely person.

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For anyone who thinks that this is an attempt to be politically correct or to “jump on the gay-is-the-way-to-fame bandwagon,” reread the part where Jo says she “always thought of Dumbledore as gay.” Doesn’t sound like something she just made up to get more attention. Unless you think she’s lying and this is some scheme of hers she’s cooked up to get more money.

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Let me clarify my last comment. When I said HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN TO CHILDREN WHAT THEY ARE HEARING I’M TALKING ABOUT EXACTLY THAT. WHAT THEY ARE HEARING VERSES WHAT THEY ARE READING DOES NOT MATCH UP AND SOMEWHERE THEY WILL QUESTION THAT. I can say that because I am an educator. I’ve already taught school for 7 years and the age group I’ve taught are the exact ages that read these books. Believe me, they will ask. So for those of you who have felt the need to address my lack of expertise and say “Explain what” now you know.

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I don’t care about this…it’s all rubbish. For me the books ended in the last page of deathly hallows. All the rest Rowling says is crap and publicity… the book ends in the las page. If she wanted to say something else (neville-Hannah, luna’s story, Umbridge in azkaban , Dumbledore gay etc) she could have said it in the epilogue (wich was horrible)or else. ALL THE RESTALL the facts after that doesn’t exist, because they are not in the book. That is the way books are people, you look like you haven’t ever read a book before. As long as the central plot is resolved the rest is silence XD. aND ALL YOUR DOUBTS… bad luck.. find answers in your imagination.

Anyway, just one more thing. Here we have people who is intolerant to homosexuals,,, true (and you should stop it.. they use to be great people, just like heterosexuals are…).. but let’s face it, some of you adore rowling so much that you have a tendency to be blind. If tomorrow she says “I think we should kill some people” you would say “MMM SHE IS RIGHT.. there’s too many people in the world, let’s kill them, that’s cool”

Rowling is a good writter, but just that. The same some people are a good doctors, others are good drivers, others are good arquitects. And if you really like her, you will make her a favor if you can be critics in a constructive way.

Well soldiers… continue your Battle Circus

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Shob, I salute you :P

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I did not want to know it, not that there’s something wrong at all about being gay but I just don’t like the explanation of Dumbledore acting like a git because of a teenage wrong lover. I preferred to think about him acting that way because of his many losses and his faith in others. Anyway…there’s nothing left to say!

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“Let me clarify my last comment. When I said HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN TO CHILDREN WHAT THEY ARE HEARING I’M TALKING ABOUT EXACTLY THAT. WHAT THEY ARE HEARING VERSES WHAT THEY ARE READING DOES NOT MATCH UP AND SOMEWHERE THEY WILL QUESTION THAT. I can say that because I am an educator. I’ve already taught school for 7 years and the age group I’ve taught are the exact ages that read these books. Believe me, they will ask. So for those of you who have felt the need to address my lack of expertise and say “Explain what” now you know.”

Well, you’re an educator. You have to know that these things will come up. I’ve worked with children as well and it’s inevitable. This isn’t the only thing you’re going to have explain and you should know that very well. This isn’t even the worse thing you’ll ever have to explain o them.

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Oh my goodness, more tidbits of information like this make me all the more eager for that encyclopaedia!

It’s feels like a big weight has been lifted after the last book has been released and now Jo can answer everything more freely, with more humour and without those tricky ‘You’ll see…’ answers.

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probably nobody will have the patience to read my comment but i must express my true and sincere opinion: Jo just ruined the perfect character Dumbledore was. i mean why did she do this?dumbledore was the perfect grandfather/protector image..the fact that he was gay shakes my image of dumbledore to the ground..its sick..this actually means that he loved harry in more than a parental way…i am truly dissapointed in Jo.I guess being gay is really fashionable right now but that doesn’t mean that you must transfigurate a great children’s story in a stupid soap opera…the storyis no longer adressed to everybody..it is adressed to a certain level of society ..the one that thinks gay is normal(which is not)and that every deviation from nature must be accepted.dumbledore was an example for kids and they may take his example…i would’ve been happier to know that dumbledore had an unshared love by a WOMAN or the love of his life,who was a WOMAN died or smth…i discover now that i just wasted a lot of time and energy with harry potter..i am sad it turned out this way..this was the story of my childhood and adolescence and i will keep it in my mind in the way that i like which is dumbledore not being gay. I am truly dissapointed in you jo..at least i am glad that you didnt put it in the book…

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“That’s not quite possible. You have to keep in mind that she built a whole world, with hundreds of different characters and what we know of her is how detail oriented she is. I’m sure she has back stories to every character and I don’t think it’s very practical for her to fit every bit in there, because it simply would side-track from the story. I don’t think she’s “writing” the story ad infinitum, I think she has all these facts already writen somewhere but there are simply not easy to get all into a story. If she explained the backstory of every character in every one of her books, she would never finish.”

This isnt a back story. According to Jo, this was one of the reasons why he supported Grindelwald. Most people i know have been claiming that this ties up a lot of loose ends. Which is why i dont think it was very brave of her to withhold such an imp information and keep it for the interviews.

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Circus and Kharlo, great comments, really. But the trouble is that so many JKR fanatics are totally blinded by the words of this woman that they are not capable of to understand your words.

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I was so estatic to hears this news! My respect for Jo just continues to grow.

And the fact that Dumbledore was in love with Grindelwald adds a whole other layer to their story, it just makes it so much more tragic.

I find it incredibly ironic that so many people are upset over this. The main message of the series is one of tolerance and acceptance, what’s with all the bigotry among the fans?

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I can’t believe I even tried reading through all these comments, specially when so many sound the exact same. I could not care less about Dumbledores sexuality, it is a complete non issue in the book and due to him being a fictional character it matters all the less. So far I have read more than enough “This rocked my socks off” and “I could see this coming from ages ago” and so on. I’ve read the books and unless you are looking waaay too hard and desperately for some homosexuality it isn’t there. Rowling announcing this did not add new context to the character because his sexuality throughout the story is a non issue. I have absolutely nothing against homosexuals, I do think it’s rubbish that Rowling is hailed a genius because she thought of a character as gay without any real proof showing so, and I am sure there will be more than enough people going “but it was so obvious all along” yet noone figured it out because it was not written in there unless you closed your eyes and wished it hard enough. Hell the rest of the revelations Rowling provided were as much a non issue as DD was, if she felt they were worthy enough to announce there’s no reason it couldn’t have been in the books. When I first read the articles it just sounded like Rowling was trying to get in with the fangirls who in turn professed her genius and felt DD was now ten times more awesome because Rowling says he is gay. The gay announcement is like George Lucas coming out and telling us the Emperor was gay, what is the point?. The entire thing reeks of cop out and makes Rowling look like she’s clinging on for attention. This isn’t intended to be straight out hate, I just find that announcements like DD is gay does absolutely nothing to further acceptance or recognition of homosexuality and the announcement caters to a select group of fans, to the younger fans that she wrote the series for they are yet to truly understand what homosexuality means and the ones who do seem to treat it like their slash fantasies have come true. Reading the comments here make it very hard not to generalise, and my apologies if you don’t fit into the generalisation.

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@Jen

HP is totally Gryffindor biased and racism pure.

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Amy: For gods sake grow up, i think its a great thing that there’s a gay character in HP, children need to learn about these things and accept them, they won’t be confused if you explain it properly. There are all sorts of different people in the world and in order for people not to be intolerant (homophobic, racist etc.) they need to be exposed to them from a young age, and be a part of every day life, in our tv shows, books and everything else. Then children won’t consider being gay as different or weird but just another one of lifes things. The fact that Dumbledore is gay really promotes understanding and intolerance on JK’s part. She understands that children should not have their ears and eyes covered to avoid things that are a little different. I saw two gay characters in a childrens cartoon (i think it was Braceface) and I was quite happy when i saw that because they depicted the two men as just any other two people in the program and the main girl in the cartoon was trying to set them up, it was quite funny. I thought it was fantastic! its really what the world needs to stop homophobia.

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“the fact that he was gay shakes my image of dumbledore to the ground..its sick..this actually means that he loved harry in more than a parental way…” by irina

Um… Dumbledore was GAY not a pedophile. BIG, HUMONGOUS difference. Pedophiles can be straight. Gay people love people of the same sex, not children. Sorry you got this confused.

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Oh, I’m smirking at the thinly veiled bigotry on display here. There is no valid criticism as far as I’m concerned. It was a throwaway response to a perfectly random question in an interview full of likewise random questions. NO, it was no a stunt. NO, it was not ‘POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAAAAD!!’. NO, it was not meant to be important. It was a sidenote, like all the other answers here. It wasn’t in the book because it wasn’t important enough, and it she answered something so unimportant because she can now. Please pack up your misplaced offence in a neat little package and flush it down the toilet.

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Just a comment to those who are bringing Christianity into all this. I dunno about anyone else, but I believe there are all kinds of Christians. There are the ones who are Christian by name, the every Sunday church goers, and then you have those that you swear popped outta the Westboro Baptist Church. One of my best friends’ mother is a devout Catholic, yet what do ya know? She knows I’m gay and is fine with that, even attended her cousin’s gay wedding out in Massachusetts recently. It just comes to show that you can be Christian and not have any sort of problem with homosexuality (which, in my opinion is how it should be. maybe then the world would be filled with a little less hatred).

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Thanks Jo~! This really delights me! This kind of little golden nugget of information about such an important character in youth literature makes me as happy as I would have been if she announced another book. Congrats and a million thanks on creating such a positive gay character!

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“Believing that homosexuality is inferior to heterosexuality is, in fact, the short definition of homophobia”

No it isn’t. “Homophobia” is such a BS buzzword. It means “fear of likeness” that’s been appropriated to slag off anyone who takes issue with homosexuality. I don’t have a personal problem with gays, I know one or two, don’t particularly like or dislike them. Do I find male on male love appealing or pleasant? No I don’t. Does this make me “afraid of it”? Not any more than I have “Carrot cake phobia” or “Anchoviphobia”

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just one thing to say about all this news and all these comments. Debatable as pitch: unsettling, unsettled, unresolved, and utterly remarkable.

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Oh, and regarding the rather silly accusations of attention seeking on J. K. Rowling’s behalf… do you really think she’s a nobody in the public eye right now? She has the attention. She sometimes even protests it. She doesn’t need to scrounge for it. The fact that the very word ‘gay’ is seen as ‘too much’ of anything is depressing to me. It’s as if anybody’s coming out story, even a fictional wizard’s, must be some kind of grand stunt rather than an aside and a little insight. Sigh. Sometimes there doesn’t have to be a sinister motive. J. K. might see it as just a non-issue worth mentioning. Why don’t you?

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Some of you guys are like little children – living in your own perfect world. But this book is really great and is not just a story for kids with happy end…It’s very close to our life…and you know there ARE gays and straight people…And we – yes,i say we, cause I’m GAY – are such as normal as you are, and we are also different – kind, friendly, mean, but just NORMAL! And we can also love – even if you don’t believe we can… Thank you Jo very much! That means a lot!

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I’m pretty disappointed. I didn’t want to know that.

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@Jen

HP is totally Gryffindor biased and racism pure.

Posted by haha on October 20, 2007 @ 03:55 PM

I agree. what is tolerate and acceptable about putting whole group of people in the evil corner. The the house united thing was a joke. There is not one slytherin kid that is shown going aganist his house believes, and joining the DA or coming to harry and saying something like I support you, not all slytherins are bad, and I’m not proud of some of my house mates. There was alot of apportunity for that to happen like when draco is attacking harry or something. Not one slytherin stays to fight voldemort. They are all kicked out. The one good slytherin we have is snape, and jo has DD saying that “we sort too soon”. What a message for kids to get that when two sides are fighting, everone in the other side is evil. That is called demonization.

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The full transcript of Jo’s questions and answers has been an awesome read.

Her summary of the books pretty much sums it all up nicely, and yeah, a lot of people are gonna hate it! oh and I think I’ve given up hope on hearing other views on the other cool stuff Jo said :(

JK: “The Potter books in general are a prolonged argument for tolerance, a prolonged plea for an end to bigotry, and I think ti’s one of the reasons that some people don’t like the books, but I think that’s it’s a very healthy message to pass on to younger people that you should question authority and you should not assume that the establishment or the press tells you all of the truth.”

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What are people basing the ‘TRUE’ nature of Dumbledore and Grindelwald’s relationship in the books on? We didn’t see it. We only heard other character’s re-tellings of it, and then only in a vague back-story sense. They could have been secretly long-lost twins and we would have had nothing to dispute that with. Jo’s writing didn’t insinuate anything because I don’t think it was meant to. People should take this new insight into the character as just that, a little insight. It’s not important, not neccessary, but a worthy tidbit to know after the books, nonetheless.

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Wow, I don’t believe Leaky has ever been flooded with this many comments.And this is top news on the BBC and all other news sites tonight. If a fictional character being gay can create this much attention, then for please let’s have more fictional characters preferably from HP( Dudley and Malfoy against bullying, Aunt Petunia and Uncle Vernon against bad step/foster parents,the very married Neville for environment protection anyone? etc ) make headlines and raise awareness about so-called sensitive or topical issues. If people become more tolerant and more aware then that is great.Secondly I agree with those who say that being good or bad is not a question of being gay or straight but of personality,IMHO.

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Kerrie, I am grown up, but you have to look at where our locations are too. Where you live being open and free about sexuality is probably ok but I’m in the Bible belt and a rural area where people go to church and aren’t very tolerant of those ideas. I personally have a friend who is gay, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to have parents who are going to support me when I try to explain that to their children. So that is something you need to consider.

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Thank you Alyss, I am gay too. Some of the people on this boards should be ashamed of themselves. Jo give us one character. ONE and they go mental. You have no idea how difficult it is to be gay and have to endure these conversations as if you’re a different species.

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Professor Potter, I agree, it was a very thoughtful summary. Shame it will be lost in a sea of delighted fan fiction and uptight bigotry, simply because of who an old wizard might have fancied in his backstory. Ah well :(

Oh, I forgot to add that I’m pleased for Hannah Abbot. I’ve remembered who she is now and I think she was a great minor character. She deserves her newfound landlady status :D

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Oh my gosh, was that satisfying. I wish I could have been there and can’t wait for the full transcript.

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If you people read the whole article you know why she said it. “to give us something to talk about for the next 10 years”.

We really didn’t need to know this. All of the other great information she gave us was wonderful, but why ruin a great man for a little more spotlight? No, I am not against gays, but dead men tell no tales.

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This makes me very happy. I really found Dumbledore’s affiliation with Grindelwald (especially what he said in his letter to him about Muggles!) to be practically unforgivable. All the good we’d been meant to feel was in Dumbledore was shattered in me. But I can rest easy now that I know what he did, he did in love. And it makes what happened to Ariana and, subsequently, what happened to Grindelwald and Dumbledore to be even more tragic… :(

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It’s funny, but about twenty-four hours after my friend read the seventh book, she emailed me to say “I bet there’s already Dumbledore/ Grindalwald slash floating about”. To all those people who said that this relationship was not something alluded to in the books, I think it must have been, otherwise why would that have been my friend’s first reaction? It was very subtle, and I thought it was something that would be just another fanon thing, but to find out that it’s actually true… I’m speechless, but definately in a good way.

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Jo never takes the easy way, does she?

This BIG news makes lots of sense, doesn’t it?

(The book-burning humor-impaired are gonna be re-energized fo’ sure.)

I love how respectfully she treats children and all of her fans. She doesn’t talk down to anyone. And, my goodness, she makes me laugh!

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Aww. Honestly i just like the idea that he found love. I mean if snape can then surely dumbledore can. It ended sad for both though. That does explain why he was so sympathetic towards snape. Hes like been there done that. lol

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i am sorry if i have upseted some of you with my anti-gey reaction.i.ve expressed myself too harshly and impulsively. i have nothing against gay people and i know that they can feel just as straight people do and that they are affectonate and kind.i just cant understand how a person can be sexually attracted to people with the same sex…god made adam and eve not adam and another man right? i am sorry that u got upset…i have the right to express my personal opinion. exept for their sexual orientation i have nothing against gay people…

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Yes! My OTP is canon! <3 JKR

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“exept for their sexual orientation i have nothing against gay people…”

and that makes sense how? lol

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I’m not worried about Laura Malloy’s reaction; something tells me that as a gay Harry Potter fan, she and I would not be the best of friends anyway;-).

Thank you JKR!

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HPBrian, me too! We should talk!!!

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That’s really wonderful and truly a statement for tolerance. I wished we would have more confirmation about this in the books but I still love this. Great move, JKR. I wonder how all the overconservative parents will react now, ban their kids from reading HP? (if they haven’t done so already, lol)

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it kinda makes me mad that she decided to tell about dumbledore now that the books are over, we already had our views of who he was as a person

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Why does Jo insist on driving her readers away? I used to defend Jo till now. Inspite of the flaws with Dh and her rants against snape, i kept loving her and her books, defending Hp against all the critics. But this just does it. I dont think i’ll ever be able to read these books again, and to think i was planning on re reading the series.

And this isn’t because im a homophobic.Homophobia implies being scared of gays or being creeped out by them. Which frankly i am not, i don’t run away from them or treat them any differently.Its just that i strictly live by my religion and it doesn’t condone homosexuality.Imagine the number of religious people who are going to be thrown off by this comment.

And what about those poor children,who would want to read these books but wont be allowed to, because of their parents. If she wanted to support gays , she could have done it through other means, not by using one of the most loved and revered characters in the book.

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oh the irony

I love how after reading 7 books where one of the main theme is tolerance,some people show complete descrimination towards gays,it’s as if what they had read had flown over their head.

one comment that shocks me

“this actually means that he loved harry in more than a parental way”

what?no it doesn’t,though i guess it could be similar to people having a hard time believing that harry/hermione was just platonic love.

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Reality check people…these characters were made up in JKR’s MIND. Their her creation and can be anything she wants them to be, whether or not she puts it in detail in the books. She obviously is an extremely creative person who had 15 years to create a whole world, most of which you don’t see in the books because harry doesn’t see them. She isn’t making a political statement, just a explaining one of her main characters in a little more detail. I think it makes perfect sense.

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Okay, so, for the ignorant out there, the way you dress, act, etc. does not indicate your sexuality, except that your amorous actions will be directed toward members of your own sex. There are people who act the way homosexuals are presented in media who are actually straight, and there are people who act the way heterosexuals are stereotyped who are actually gay. Seriously, do bisexuals just spontaneously combust out of confusion? No. People are just a wee more complex than that. Sexuality does not determine every little detail about, nor do the outward details of your life indicate everything about you.

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I respect you religious views Snapefan85, but not everyone lives by their religion to this extent. As a gay person I have to say what you said is homophobic. Homophobia also includes being intolerant of ones sexuality, not being scared of them. Thats just stupid.

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Dumbledore was an honorable and respectable character. He was a powerful wizard and Harry’s mentor - nothing will ever change that. The fact his homosexuality was never brought up as an issue in the series is a statement to the fact that he was not, in any way, sexually attracted to Harry, Ron, Neville, Hermione in drag… Clearly Dumbledore’s sexuality was not - and is not—that important, because that part of his life had ended long before Harry came around.

Some of your reactions are very disappointing. Harry Potter is a series that is intended to open minds. If you’re too close-minded to accept that someone as respectable as Dumbledore had, at one time, been in love with a man, then drop the books and walk away.

I began this series when I was eleven years old (eight years ago; eesh, that’s hard to believe…) and it opened my mind. Harry Potter, House of the Scorpion, and Hokkaido Popcicle are all novels I read when I was younger and I honestly attribute my open-mind and powerful morals to them. I know the difference between right and wrong.

Loving someone is not wrong.

The ONLY problem with Dumbledore harboring feelings for Grindeldore is the fact that…well, Grindeldore was hell-bent on conquering the world. It’s kind of hard to have a good relationship with someone who is…uh…evil.

I sincerely hope that each of you that dislike, fear, or discriminate against homosexuality will never, ever experience how it feels to be unable to care for someone you sincerely love. No one deserves that sort of pain.

Dumbledore has always been and always will be my favorite character. His sexual preference does not change that fact. After all, the books are complete. :)

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And what about the other characters ?

It’s very interesting to know that James Lily and Sirius left Hogwarts to fight like Harry, Ron and Hermione did.

It’s also very sad to know that Remus was always poor and was only happy during a few years with Tonks before he dies in a tragic way. Like also Hagrid who never found love.

Dumbledore revelation was very unexpected but don’t forget the other infos !

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Well said ash. I have had feelings for straight people that have never came to anything. It’s heart breaking.

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This just ruins all the mystery of Dumbledore. I think it would have been best not knowing anything about his love life. I think perhpas Rowling is revealing too much and thus stifling our imaginations.

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@jkr is a phoney

Thanks!

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To IrishPotterFan. To be intolerant of me would be to stop reading the books if Jo was to make a statement that she was gay or that perhaps she supported gays. If i was intolerant i wouldn’t even consort with those that are gay. But we are talking about a book which we loved so dearly to the point that it almost became real. By changing the character in such a way, especially in a way that upsets so many people, was uncalled for. She could have alluded to certain things and left the rest to the reader’s imagination, so that both parties would be happy, which is why ive always loved her books. There are people who still believe remus was gay and some others who dont. But the ones who dont, dont freak out because its not canon.

” exept for their sexual orientation i have nothing against gay people…” Sorry irina, even i don’t understand , how that makes sense.

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“exept for their sexual orientation i have nothing against gay people…”

and that makes sense how? lol

Posted by Billy on October 20, 2007 @ 04:29 PM

well it does.i have nothing against them as people,as personalities.again i apologise for being rude.i didnt realise that i was being so ruthless.i have no right to accuse people of annormality because maybe i may not be as normal as i think i am. please forgive me

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I really hope they don’t bring the Dumbledore being gay thing into the movies. I prefer they stay true to the books, and that wasn’t in the books.

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Snapefan85, Dumbledore was ALWAYS gay in her mind. She didn’t decide it on the spot.

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Oh please, Irina. At least have some integrity about your opinion.

Snapefan85, JKR is not trying to “support” gay people. It’s a fact of life that some people are gay, not a political issue. I think it’s very sad to believe in a religion that condemns people simply for being who they are, frankly, but you have the freedom to believe whatever you want, and to never read HP again. Just as JKR is free to create her characters as she sees fit.

I’m amazed by the reaction over such a non-issue.

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I love her soo much!!! soooo much!!!

T___T

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Thats…......... Thats…................ interesting….......... O_o

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When I finshed DH I realized for good (even when I read HBP) JKR produces ethically crap! Rubbish, nonsense. DD´s homosexuality is nothing else then an awkward addition of a long list of needless tattle by JKR.

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This is very funny and charming, and made me pump my fist in the air and say “YES! I knew it!” Told a friend after finishing Deathly Hallows, “Wow, Dumbledore is SO gay for Grindelwald.”

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I can’t believe all the ignorant and hateful comments on this board directed at gay people.

VERY SAD!!!

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i have integrity.someone made me feel really bad for my opinion… maybe i am wrong to call gay people annormal…i dunno…i am a little confusd…i dont know what to think….tahts maybe because i may not be in the right place to comment such delicate matters…

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Irina you are wrong to call gay people, like me, abnormal. But at least you acknowledge that you are wrong.

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Also, the comments along the lines of “Dumbledore must have loved Harry in more than a (grand)parental way” are utterly ludicrous. Why do people have this persistent notion that gay people must be attracted to every member of their own sex? Do straight people love every member of the opposite sex? Including people young enough to be their grandchildren? Ewww. Grow a brain.

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Can we just get one thing straight (ahem)? She didn’t DO anything! The fact of the matter is, Dd being gay was terribly significant – Snape did what he did because he was in love with Lily, this was described in much detail! Dd behaved the way he did to some extent because he loved Grindewald. She left this huge piece of character motivation OUT. That means she was scared. I agree with others, if it was important she should have included it in the books – just making a statement about it once the books have been published and sold seems weak to ME.

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very interesting. I must confess i was a little shocked! it makes me wonder about DD relationship with Elphias Doge. but that is neither here nor there. There was no evidence that Grindelwald returned DD love and i would think he probably did not, after all how could he have done what he did to aberforth if he loved DD. it does explain why DD waited so long to go after him though. It definately adds a twist to the story.

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PS—Obviously, I haven’t read all the comments…

I’m just happy that Dumbledore (a very complicated character, no?) has another dimension added. It’s too corny for words to think of him as the stereotypical never-been-married-because-my-entire-life-is-dedicated-to-the-children headmaster.

And, to those who now wonder if he had “dirty thoughts” or “designs” on Harry (or any of the children), can I just say: Please, grow up! Of course he didn’t. You’re just showing your ignorance and sublimated hatred with that kind of thinking. (Well, unless you’re joking, of course.)

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I have to give Jo a lot of credit for answering the Dumbledore question so truthfully. She didn’t have to … she could have given a deliberately vague response. But she was honest, and it was courageous of her, given the backlash that is sure to follow. Her matter-of-fact response let everyone know that, at least to her, sexual orientation is just no big deal. It’s loving with integrity and having love in your life that matters. Way to go, Jo!

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It really doesn’t matter in context with the books, besides, the way she said it was in this sort of context to my understanding, “Well… I kind of always thought he was gay…” not (according to my unddrstanding)”OMG! He is totally gay!” he is still my favorite character anyway.

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@irina, the homosexual people are not more or less annormal than other people. But I don´t think homosexuality is important enough to make such a fuss of it. Why do homosexual people just identify themselves by showing their sexual orientation? I mean. I don´t go out and show imtimacy for the public. When I see here in Europe homosexuals showing their naked bodies, making sexual poses in the public I wonder: WHY? Are they so small-minded? Do they have nor feeling for a healthy and worthy shame? Are they so filled up with lack of self-confidence that they have the feeling that they have to to behave like brainless idiots, just to get attention?

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Courageous?? I dont think it was very courageous of her to wait for her books to be released to discuss such an imp peace of motivation for one of the most imp characters from the book, which in retrospect looks quite imp to the plot.

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Wow! That’s one heck of a revelation.

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I Wonder, thanks for taring all the gay people of europe in the same brush. Wonderful of you to do so. So open minded.

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TrustSnape: We are on these comments trying to delete anything that is particularly hateful. I appreciate your patience. Please remember that we think this is the most comments we’ve ever had on ANY post on Leaky. EVER. We’re all doing our best. It’s long been our policy to remove comments that are hateful to ANYONE – and as this is a sensitive issue we have to distinguish between what is hate or personal outrage, and what is respectful and what is not, and what is fair play and what is not. As we try and keep this a tolerant place we appreciate your tolerance as well.

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This Dumbledore revelation is one of those things that I can look back and realize that it makes perfect sense. That’s fine, but I agree with the others who have said that it was best left to the imagination. Now, we have all read the books and know that there’s nothing in there that promotes being gay; the morals this book promotes-so far as i can see-are friendship, loyalty and courage. There’s nothing “satanic” about it, as Laura Mallory would have us believe. However, I think JKR was right when she said that her comments are going to create more controversy, and much more so than the radicals who have claimed the book promotes Wicca, or whatever. Parents are going to hear JKR’s comment, and if they haven’t read the book like we have, they are not going to want to take the chance of having their kids read this and start asking questions about homosexuality. And frankly, I can understand parents’ wanting their kids to not get into that at such a young age! I suppose we can just hope that parents will first read the book themselves and see that there is no theme about homosexuality (or Wicca!) before telling their children they can’t read the series. Although, yes, I do realize that the later books don’t seem all that geared toward children.

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If parents, or anyone else, refuse to read the books now because of the fact that there is an aspect to Dumbledore’s character which is never depicted or even mentioned explicitly in the books themselves that they don’t agree with, for whatever reason, so be it. We all have things we like and don’t like about her writing. I happen to not like her tacit approval of Unforgivables as long as they’re cast by Gryffindors, or her idea that House Unity involves only 3 of the 4 Houses, with Slytherins being effectively ‘written off.’ But I also understand that the series is greater than its flaws

The books aren’t about Dumbledore’s homosexuality. In fact, given that Dumbledore lived his life we see during Harry’s years at Hogwarts without a partner, Rowling isn’t proclaiming homosexuality as positive, nor is she stating it’s negative. It’s simply one facet of who Dumbledore was.

For me, the books remain Harry’s story. It’s his hero’s journey, his development that drives the plot. Dumbledore’s sexuality is no more important to it than the fact that Neville marries Hannah Abbot, or Ginny plays Quidditich. If Rowling hadn’t mentioned it, those facts would have never been known.

The only way children will know that Dumbledore was gay is if they are told by adults. The books themselves make no direct mention of it. Therefore, it’s a non-issue.

What I find most interesting about this whole situation is how people have clamoured for information regarding the characters post-DH, and now that JKR has provided information some find objectionable, they want these revelations to stop. Had she said Dumbledore was heterosexual, I’m sure there would have been no outcry about this, and that, truly, is a sad state of affairs. Not quite as pathetic as the idea that Dumbledore harboured anything but platonic affection for Harry, however.

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This really came out of nowhere…. it’s interesting backstory, I guess. I’m not a homophobe or anything… but I don’t know how I feel about Dumbledore being gay. I always saw him as asexual. I don’t feel like it’s relevant to the story.

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I have never read it and already opposed it. A good guy does not have bad morals. Meaning Dumbledore, as well as Harry, are not the greatest of heroes. Harry shows no compassion for the the his aunt and uncle and picks on other students. Those are very worldly morals. A good guy does not have bad morals.

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The basic conflict in the series is born of intolerance, Voldemort’s and his Deatheaters’ hatred for anyone not of pure wizard blood. Reciprocal to that tendency is the intolerance of Uncle Vernon and Aunt Petunia towards wizards and witches. Wizards consider house-elves beneath them, and even Slytherins and Gryffindors can’t stand each other. It seems fitting that one of the main characters should present each member of the audience with a personal choice.

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I have to agree that this bit of info could have been left out BUT the qestion was asked if he had ever fell in love befor but I also would like to say that these are books and I belive that even though for alot of us we do think the same about the series we all had or favorite chracters and we all had our different favorite parts in and about the books. Even though J.K. says tht DD is gay really doesnt make him gay to me yes I know ever one will say OH YES IT DOES BECAUSE ITS HER WORLD AND SHE CAN DO WHAT EVER SHE WANTS TO but I myself have my own imagination and that is really what reading is all about to stimulate your imagination I think she left DD sexuality out in the books because she wanted us to view him in each our own way SO ANYWAY I will just say that this really doesnt change my opion about the books becuse I just dont see him that way and never will.

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YES YOU ROCK JO ! that is all.

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When JKR said she most identified with Hermione, she wasn’t kidding was she? This relevation reminds me so much of Hermione hiding clothes for the house elves to accidentally clean up. Here are millions of readers innocently reading some great books, bringing them into their homes and then finding out that one of the most coolest and admired characters in the book is someone that they cannot accept because of his sexual orientation. Wow, her cleverness is mind boggling.

People have a decision to make, are you house elves or can you think outside the chains of outdated, wrong headed rules of society? S.P.E.W lives!

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Well, she DID write it in the margin of the movie script, thereby making it an official part of the HP universe. That’s pretty cut-n-dry, ennit?

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Thanks to Melissa, Sue, Edward and co for their hard work today. This is without doubt the most fascinating and most passionate subject and response to Hagrid not getting married and having children ;) But seriously, there have been some very abusive remarks which I am glad are been cleared out for not just the sake of younger readers but for everyone.

Cant wait to hear the the Leaky trio’s views on podcast!

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“The only way children will know that Dumbledore was gay is if they are told by adults. The books themselves make no direct mention of it. Therefore, it’s a non-issue.”

Not true. Children are in forums like the leaky lounge, and cos where this issue will be discussed, and all speculation about who else was gay and so on allowed. Cos already allowed this, I haven’t read the leaky lounge yet. Parents who don’t want their children to know about this would have to ban them from coming to hp sites and forums, which would lead to the kids asking why when it was okay before. There is no way to hid this from children now. Maybe future generation won’t have to know unless told, but this generation’s kids can’t escape from it now.

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This makes me so happy! It’s like getting to read a little more about Harry Potter! Plus it really all makes sense!

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Well, probably no one will ever read this comment. After all, there’s 30 pages of comments already, and I’ve only gotten to page 5. You think I’m going to make it to page 30? Um, not really.

However, this whole issue of tolerance reminds of my favorite author of all time, alive or dead, in this universe or any other, Lois McMaster Bujold. So I will take the opportunity to recommend her to those of you who are ready for something new to read, who are looking for exciting fiction with love at its heart, who believe in love over hatred, and wisdom over bitterness.

Go to a library and check out a copy of The Warrior’s Apprentice. It’s the story of Miles Vorkosigan, a boy of 17 (interesting age) who conquers the universe. Literally. He’s kind of a blend of Harry, Ron and Hermione: He’s got Harry’s courage, loyalty, and heart, Hermione’s brilliance, and Ron’s humor, with a big dash of scam artist thrown in for good measure. So go, already! Go now! What are you waiting for??? If you actually read this message, it’s your DESTINY! (And let me know if you do . . . I do so love turning people on to Lois . . . )

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I REALLY don’t get why some people are upset about it… What’s wrong with Dumbledore being gay? 10% of the population is; it’s nothing unusual or (and yes, some idiot on another commentbox said this) “gimmicky”.

Congrats to Jo :]. I can’t wait to tell my Christian friend this; she already hates HP for the witchcraft… Hehe…

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In regards to JKR’s comment about the portraits only being able to move around in the same room, How was Phineas Nigellus Black allowed to move from Grimmauld Place to the Headmaster’s office?

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This makes me so happy! It’s like getting to read a little more about Harry Potter! Plus it really all makes sense!

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DUMBLEDORE?! OMG. That was a BIG surprise. I wonder why she decided that…? I’m so embarrassed to say this, but when I read that question about Sirius, Lupin, James, and Lilys’ jobs, I got a little teary-eyed! I had wanted to know it for so long. I was SO excited!! They didn’t have jobs… At least they were Order members!

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Didn’t see this comimg.

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To all the people who think that Jo should have included DD’s love towards G, i dont really think it matters. Yeah, it would have been awesome and very significant, but i think what Jo was trying to say is that being gay can be completly irrelevant. And maybe she didnt include it because maybe DD didnt really realize he was in love with G until later on, i know a loooootttt of gay people, and from what theyve told me, their first gay love was more of deep admiration, almost obsession, and they’d do anything for them no matter what. i think that DD didnt actually realize it was love until later on, s thats why it wasnt mentioned… but yeah it would have really cool written by her. hey and when DD wasexplaining they whole thing to Harry he probably didnt want to include that personal of a thing that really was irrelevant at the time, and rita skeeter coodnt of mentioned it in Life and Lies of DD because i don’t think he ever came out, and if he did only to people he trusted 200%

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YAY! I’ve always wanted to know those answers and ask those questions.

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I haven’t read all the comments, I’d be here till Christmas, but my skimming of them confirms my suspicions of what sort of line a lot of them would be taking!

I’d just like to say that Dumbledore is still Dumbledore, just as he always was. He’s not suddenly become camper than a row of tents just because we’ve now found out he was gay. Many gay men are just the same as straight men to the unknowing on-looker. And as for the suggestions that this taints his relationship with Harry, that’s just sick. He’s gay not a bloody paedophile! Get a grip people for goodness sake.

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I WAS THERE!! When she said he was gay my mouth dropped to the floor!! I couldn’t believe it! oh and—I SHOOK HER HAND!!!!

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Adel: “In regards to JKR’s comment about the portraits only being able to move around in the same room, How was Phineas Nigellus Black allowed to move from Grimmauld Place to the Headmaster’s office?”

He was a headmaster, if I recall hence why he can move between both places

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you know, i’m not being against gay/lesbian people or anything, but for me Dumbledore being gay is disturbing. I just can’t believe it. And Gillerd Grindewald of all people! It seriously makes me feel sick inside. And to make it worse, Neville married Hannah Abbot?! Where the heck did that come from?! I mean she is such a random character. That’s horrible. I guess it’s because i’m a big neville/luna shipper. Anyway i am so glad this isn’t in the books. I never imagined Dumbledore being in love with grindelwald, it is so uncalled for because you wouldn’t expect it. And since it’s so irrelevant to the series I feel JKR just did that just to make gay/lesbian people happy.

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Sorry, this is George Lucas like. It doesn’t fit in the story – not implausible but just comes out of left field, remember when Grindelwald was supposed to dead? That changed and nothing in the story indicates it.

This just seems so tacked on and unneccesary – like when every tv show in the late ‘90’s added a gay character or long time characters uddenly realized they were gay.

Ultimately, I don’t care if he is gay but it does hurt my enjoyment of the story. I don’t think his sexuality affects the story at all – so why bring it up? Just like Lucas re-writing Star Wars to try to make everyone feel bad for Darth Vader. I am also convinced she is making this stuff up as she goes – that is why she gave two very different answers for what happend to Ron and now has added more story to Neville.

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Now I’m sooooo happy! I was so sure he was, the clues were all there in the last book! Great thing Jo, go you!

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I think everyone who was at the reading (myself included) will realize that she DIDN’t just “make this up.” As others have said, she only said it because she was asked explicitly about Dumbledore’s love life. And it wasn’t like she just said “oh, he’s gay.” She thought about it, and then she said “I’ve always thought of DD as gay.” It obviously WAS important to her as a character trait when she was writing him, but not as a plot device that needed to be within the canon.

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I always knew Dumbledore was a little fruity… ;-)

I just always thought of him as sexless person. But I guess we are all human…

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I am floored at how rude some of these comments are. I realize we are all allowed our own opinions but when they become mean, nasty and hurtful someone needs to step in and stop it. This news doesn’t change the way I feel about this book or Dumbledore by any means because I refuse to judge a person based on their sexuality. I will will forever be a Potter fan and am proud of it!

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Read this story on the BBC news website and reacted “what nonsense”. I haven’t read the books but like the films. Even if it’s “true” why does it need to be revealed? These are primarily kids books aren’t they? Call me old fashioned but my kids just don’t need to know this.

Disappointed in JK. Has gone down a peg in my esteem.

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I agree with diappointed I think she makes some of this stuff up as she goes she just contradicts herself way to much!

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In a lot of cultures and religions homosexuality is wrong and frowned upon. Now I’m not saying Gay/Lesbian people are stupid and we should be rude to them and hate them,(although dumbledore being gay is very disturbing), all i’m saying is that many societies don’t accept it. I for one, am a muslim and in islam being a homosexual is a sin. And i heard that it’s the same in christianity and judaism.

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“but yeah it would have really cool written by her. hey and when DD wasexplaining they whole thing to Harry he probably didnt want to include that personal of a thing that really was irrelevant at the time, and rita skeeter coodnt of mentioned it in Life and Lies of DD because i don’t think he ever came out, and if he did only to people he trusted 200%”
After reading Libby’s post, I’m wondering if Hagrid knew- Dumbledore says in the first chapter of PS/SS that he’d trust Hagrid with his life. Who else might know? McGonagall? Elphias Doge?
Canttell: I wish I was there.
About the portrait of Phineas Nigellus, I think he said himself that portraits can only travel around the room, or visit a portrait of themselves somewhere else. I don’t know if it had anything to do with him being a headmaster, although I’m still a little confused about what it is exactly that you’re asking.

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My son was one of the lucky winners and we attended the evening Carnegie event. I have to say, there were so many great questions-which Ms. Rowling answered so thoroughly and honestly-it surprises me to hear that there is so much focus on the one Dumbledore detail. The entire evening was a magical, once-in-a-lifetime occasion. Our heartfelt thanks to JK Rowling for doing this for her fans, and to everyone at Scholastic who worked so hard to coordinate down to the last detail, and the staff at Carnegie Hall who were all friendly and professional. My little boy is still on on cloud 9 and I confess, so am I!

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Haha, we cheered so hard when JKR said she had always thought of Dumbledore as gay. But the things is, is that no one can think her of being unnecessary in saying Dumbledore’s orientation, because the question was asked, and she answered truthfully… that’s how she always saw him.

Oh, and the question about Aberforth’s goats was hilarious. You should have seen the look on JK’s face :)

So basically…. I’m in heaven…. and I’m never washing my right hand again…. (ok, I already have, but still…).

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This is the next step in the right direction! Jo wasn’t kidding when she said she was a brave brave Gryffindor! Gay people are real people!

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“Now I’m not saying Gay/Lesbian people are stupid and we should be rude to them and hate them,(although dumbledore being gay is very disturbing), all i’m saying is that many societies don’t accept it.”

OMG…NO WAY

By your comment (and hundreds of others here), I think everyone already can see that, hon.

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Oh dear, I have no idea how that strikethrough happened! Let me try again: My son was one of the lucky winners and we attended the evening Carnegie event. I have to say, there were so many great questions which Ms. Rowling answered so thoroughly and honestly it surprises me to hear that there is so much focus on the one Dumbledore detail. The entire evening was a magical, once-in-a-lifetime occasion. Our heartfelt thanks to JK Rowling for doing this for her fans, and to everyone at Scholastic who worked so hard to coordinate down to the last detail, and the staff at Carnegie Hall who were all friendly and professional. My little boy is still on on cloud 9 and I confess, so am I!

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“Read this story on the BBC news website and reacted “what nonsense”. I haven’t read the books but like the films. Even if it’s “true” why does it need to be revealed? These are primarily kids books aren’t they? Call me old fashioned but my kids just don’t need to know this.”
Maybe your kids don’t ‘need to know this’, as you put it, but if you make a huge deal about it then they’re going to grow up as bigoted, arrogant and intolerant as you are now.
A final question: Is it lonely up there on your pedestal?

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I’m glad Jo felt like she could be honest with us in answering this question. Some people may not care for back story that isn’t included in the nine HP books she’s published, but I personally enjoy hearing information, whether it is about the characters pasts, futures, or simply something about the magical rules in her world. I had assumed that just like some characters are other faiths besides Christian (but Jo didn’t go into it because it didn’t serve the plot)....similarily, I assumed that there were probably characters whose sexual preferences were for those of the same sex (but that Jo didn’t go into it because it didn’t serve the plot). I just hadn’t guessed Dumbledore had feelings for Grindlewald. So it was a shock when I read the headlines of this news story.

I’ve read all of the comments here and though there has been some disheartening name-calling and unkindness toward others’ opinions, reading HAS helped me get over the initial shock. So thanks to those who are doing their best to comment to others with kindness, as well as those who are moderating.

My extended family as well as friends and co-workers over the years have very wide-spread and differing political and spiritual opinions as well as sexual preferences. I prefer to focus on what we have in common, rather than how we are different. Reading the comments to this article have made me even more determined in that regard. To quote Dumbledore in Book 4: “Lord Voldemort’s gift for spreading discord and enmity is very great. We can fight it only by showing an equally strong bond of friendship and trust. Differences of habit and language are nothing at all if our aims are identical and our hearts are open.”

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I’ve been reading people’s comments and i’ve seen that some people are ecstatic, some people don’t care, and some people Hate it. I personally hate it. I find dumbledore being gay very disturbing. And I’m trying not to be prejudiced against gay/lesbian people but seriously it makes me feel sick inside. And partly that’s because when you think of grindewald and when you think of dumbledore you wouldn’t suspect that he loved him. It just doesn’t fit. I personally wish that she never told us. And i know a lot of people disagree but that is just my opinion. And also guys, if dumbledore was Gay wouldn’t she put some hints in the books? You see dumbledore’s sexual orientation had no relevance to the books whatsoever.

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This explains a lot. I could not see Dumbledore putting off the fight for that long on a simple platonic relationship. I always knew it was more complex than that. Being a gay man myself, it makes perfect sense, and .. just like the Christian imagery in the series, it now is obvious. As a writer, I can see why it wasn’t 100% spelled out.. because what does it change? For those of you who don’t like Dumbledore now, suddenly.. why not?

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To Sassy, Genna, Lizz, and Albus_is_da_bomb: You guys say it all.

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I am, right now, absolutely disgusted with the fandom. Who knew there were such hateful bigots lurking among us?

The reason you never realised Dumbledore is gay is because, amazingly enough, not everyone shoves their sexuality in your face. Dumbledore’s sexuality did not – and should not – have had any bearings on his characterisation in the books. At all. If you seriously expect that he should have minced all over the place there is no hope for you.

What about the central theme in the books? What about tolerance? Or is it actually “I’m tolerant for as long as it doesn’t offend my precious right-wing sensibilities”?

The bigotry is hideous.

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LoonyLuna: Don’t say it doesn’t have any relevance; it explains many, many things, such as Dumbledore’s hesitation in confronting Grindelwald, which is something Rita Skeeter mentioned in her biography of Dumbledore.

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“Why do homosexual people just identify themselves by showing their sexual orientation? I don’t go out and show intimacy for the public.”

@I wonder I have to confess when I read your comment, I was stunned!!!!!

I don’t think gay people are CONSUMED by their sexual orientation. I think that label has been assigned to them by TOO MANY OF US in the straight world.

Some researchers believe that about 10% of the world’s population is gay. If that’s true, then there are more than 600 MILLION gays on this planet.

Your comment is a GROSS GENERALIZATION about an extremely large group of people. Can you honestly say that ALL of these people, as you put it, make “sexual poses in the public” and “behave like brainless idiots, just to get attention?”?????

If you observe more closely, I think you will find straight people exhibit that very same “brainless” behavior with just as much frequency. In the end, WE ARE ALL JUST PEOPLE!!!

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Laura Mallory isnt going to like this…

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I’m divided on how I feel about Jo revealing this. Dumbledore being gay doesn’t bother me. He’s the coolest, and there’s nothing wrong with being gay. My issue is with what I see as “Hey, look at me, I’m so progressive!” Maybe I’m wrong; she was asked about DD’s love life, and I don’t expect her to pretend that he isn’t gay just because she’s afraid of the reaction. Still, I just can’t shake the feeling that she’s pandering or just trying to be cool.

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I am saddened by the reaction of some, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

Why didn’t she tell us in previous interviews? Why wasn’t it overtly mentioned in the books? Look what she said in the interview, how she reacted to the applause. She was shocked by the ovation, meaning she knows all about the bigoted and even hateful reaction some will have.

The author you are now trying to defame with claims of this being a publicity stunt has done a heck of a lot for charities and for literacy in general. Remember all those news stories about a new generation discovering the joy of books because of her? It’s a bit late to claim moral high ground or tolerance when you are so ready to make false claims about her personal character, and readily forget all she has done.

If this ruined the books for you, then I suggest you read them again as you seemed to have missed the entire point.

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I really can’t believe how the fandom has responded to this. Not to mention that the fact of Dumbledore’s sexuality was just ONE of the revelations. I would think that the fact that she said what Petunia wanted to say to Harry before he left would produce MUCH more response then the very minor matter that Harry’s headmaster was gay. For me, yes it does seem a little shocking, but JK Rowling has built her books on tolerance and acceptance of all people, no matter who they are. Forgive me if I offend anyone, but I find it discomforting that Harry Potter fans are so, frankly, disgusted by this. Some fans have been saying that she’s just doing this to shock. Where does that impression come from? She was asked, quite innocently if Dumbledore had ever fallen in love. She answered honestly, expanded on the answer and moved on. The audience gave her a long, standing ovation. There are some that say that this changes their view of Dumbledore. That’s fine. It changed mine too. But I read one fan who said that a gay Dumbledore was not “their Dumbledore”. And basically said that it’s not canon. Well, it’s JK Rowling’s world. Whether we like it or not, if she says a character is gay, a character is gay. She could not have POSSIBLY put everything that needed to be in Deathly Hallows in the book. It would’ve been the size of an SUV! It saddens me a little that something as minor as a character’s sexuality is treated like this. In my opinion, I applaud her. I have always admired her as a person and to make not only a character in her book gay, but to make DUMBLEDORE of all people gay says a lot about who she us. Yes it wasn’t said it canon, but to be honest, if this is the reaction people have in 2007, I really couldn’t see her doing it. On another note, I really can’t see Dumbledore of all people hiding who he is. Granted he didn’t exactly broadcast his personal life, but he was a headmaster. Dumbledore always touted equality and tolerance. I say we, as fans, finally listen. Sorry for the rant.

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TLC: There are some absolutely vile comments on here. You may wish to clean them up if you don’t wish to be associated with bible bashers who are clinging to their hideous Zondervan “translations” (guys, if you’re going to get heavy with the bible, I’m not listening until you start using the greek).

This is a sad, sad day for the fandom.

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Frankly, it looks like a publicity stunt to me, nothing more. It has no relevance for the story or the plot whether Dumbledore is gay, straight, bent, loopy, spiralled, or figure-of-eight-shaped. It looks to me like Rowling is trying to be “politically correct” by introducing “gayness” into the story.

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I have to say I am very disappointed. I have no problem with gays. I just think that it’s absolutely unnecessary to reveal that fact because Dumbledore is a great character because of his knowledge, his wisdom, his charisma and his good-hearted nature. He’s the prototype of the ever loving grandpa who always has some useful advice at hand when you need it. I thought that maybe he just wasn’t interested in physical things at all and rather seeked knowledge than sex or so. But that picture of him is gone now, thank you very much. I think that if something doesn’t matter in a story (like the sexual preferences of Dumbledore) then it’s best to leave it up to the readers what they think about it.

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Oh, the irony.

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I wish people wouldn’t be bigoted and rude and name-calling toward Christians and Muslims when they state their opinions. I think as long as we are all kind, that all of our opinions should be heard.

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you know i’m seriously getting tired of people who keep telling other people off for hating the whole ‘dumbledore being gay’ thing. You know what you may like the idea but others don’t and find it disturbing. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion so whoever keeps doing it, just stop.

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I agree

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“Frankly, it looks like a publicity stunt to me, nothing more. It has no relevance for the story or the plot whether Dumbledore is gay, straight, bent, loopy, spiralled, or figure-of-eight-shaped. It looks to me like Rowling is trying to be “politically correct” by introducing “gayness” into the story.”

I so agree with this!

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Tistytosty: I have to say, your comment sums up most of my feelings on this whole thing. Why exactly do people care so much anyway?

Please, people, I was raised in church, and they teach that you’re supposed to be humble and loving and leave the judging up to God. I can think of several verses which say just that.

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She didn’t need to bring Dumbie’s sexual orientation up, but I think it’s awesome. JKR is Christian, I believe, and the fact that she made one of the most important characters in the series gay means that she’s willing to step out of this whole gay-is-bad thing that is usually associated with the Christian belief.

I didn’t think she could get any cooler.

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Those of you saying it is “implausible” and “out of the blue”....um, what? Did you not read the same edition of “Deathly Hallows” that I did?

Additionally, please remember that the stories are told from the perspective of Harry, who, particularly at age 11, 12, 13, was not likely to think of his Headmaster’s sexuality at all. (Would YOU have wondered about your sixth-grade teachers?) Would the fact that his Headmaster wore high-heeled boots, purple suits, and had no wife have registered to Harry as anything more than “eccentric old man”?

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Look, folks.

When you write a book, or a novel, or anything.. typically, you go in knowing these types of things about the characters. It’s called a “Story Bible.” You have a lot of things in it about your characters that might or might not ever come out. This is why I believe her, and that it’s not a publicity stunt. It DID shape Dumbledore’s actions and choices, and it explains fully why he took so long to get to Grindewald. He was trying to SAVE Grindewald.

Does this change what Dumbledore did? Does it change how he lived, or how he died? No. Does it make him less brave? Less important? Does it change his motives?

You now know something more about the character of Albus Dumbledore than you knew last week. So what? He likely always WAS gay. He was gay when you were reading the books. He was gay when you were watching the movie. He was gay when you were playing the video game.

If the knowledge that he was gay changes what you think of Dumbledore, than you’ve really missed Dumbledore’s point. Why not fire Hagrid because he’s a giant lazy slob, too, since we’re judging and all that. Heck, how about just expelling all the Slytherin? Why give Snape a second, and more, chances?

LEARN from the character. Everything you loved about him as a character is being betrayed by your reactions.

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ewwwww. i hate gay ppl. i hate her for doing this to me. i hate dumbledore. gross. sick. nasty. all those times harry was alone with him. im glad hes dead.

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Agree with you SarahW. Please go over at the lounge and see how everyone is making their opinions in a decent manner. Im not happy with this revelation either and i made my comment there and no one jumped on me or anything.I got a civilized and non offensive reply. Please try not to offend anyone. And this stands for both parties. As everyone has the right to state their opinions.

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SarahW you are so right.

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I am REALLY tired of people politicizing homosexuality. JK has nothing to gain personally by “introducing gayness”. She’s already richer than the Queen from these books (and movies). She answered a question, she shared her thoughts about one of her characters.

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incredible, marvelous, fantastic!! never mind now about publicity or political correctness! i’m sooooooooo happy. i never thought about it, but now nothing seems more natural!!!

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i am SO happy jo has clarified this, i had my suspicions of course and i think its important information to reveal. for those harking on about not needing to know this – well, i suppose you could say that about a lot of this excess info jo’s been giving us. but all these tidbits are just things that did not fit into the books but are still facts of the world – and when, really, were we going to find out albus was gay within these books??? we first met him when he was very very old and also when there was something on the horizon of far greater importance to him than his personal relationships, than his life, and that was harry. this is huge for the queer community, of which i am proudly part, and i commend jkr for doing this. “nitwit, blubber, oddment, tweak!”

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This was so brave of J.K.R.! It’s a pity that there are so many negative comments. “OMG Y DID SHE HAVE 2 DO DAT? ):” “IT’S SOOO GROSS!” and yes, you’re entitled to your opinion, but there’s a point when it becomes inappropriate and just downright rude. Someone asked a question, she answered it honestly, and that’s that. In Christianity, the religion I practice, honesty is something to be honored as is acceptance and love for all regardless of race, class, and yes, sexuality. Practice what you preach. GLBT people exist, whether you like it or not and that’s not going to change.

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Wow, I really love Jo for saying this. She’s a very modern writer. This is how it should be. Homosexuals are human beings just like everyone else. I won’t look differently at Dumbledore, just because he’s gay. He’s still the same GREAT wizard! But it’s kinda funny to think about all the stuggles he must have had with his feelings. Actually I feel sorry for him. I guess she didn’t put it in the books, because they’re children’s books, and all this about sexuality is more “grown-up stuff”. (Sorry if my english is bad. I’m from Denmark)

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The only people politicising homosexuality are those who tell us that Dumbledore is gay for the sole purpose of bringing up the subject. His sexual orientation has next to no relevance to the story, so bringing it up is a (successful, I must admit) attempt to provoke a reaction.

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To everyone who says the series is ruined for them:

This is not the “Albus Dumbledore” series. This is the Harry Potter series. Are you really going to let one gay character ruin it all for you? Whatever you feel about gays, it’s still just the one character. You don’t have to accept it, though that would be nice. You can work around it still, if it bothers you so much. I’m sorry, I’m just really upset to see people denouncing (I’m sorry I don’t know how to spell very well) Harry Potter!

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Dumbledore being gay that so cool.But, i wanna know if harry knew that what would’ve been his reaction?!I wish neville married luna!

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My reactions to Jo’s Q&A

Snape: nothing new but a continuing admiration for how complex and brilliant a creation, Jo conjured up that makes me have all sorts of feelings for him, disgust, admiration, sympathy, anger, pity, and heart wrench when Jo describes snape’s last moment of finding peace with himself.

Lupin: There is more sadness about Lupin than I first imagined. Hearing of James and Lily helping Lupin through his unemployment days was heart warming but sad at the same time. Thinking about it, Remus Lupin had a very very very difficult life but the strong bonds of friendship with James, Lily and Sirious seemed to have carried him through even after James and Lily’s deaths.

Hagrid: Aaaaww ;) but then again, i dont think he will be at all lonely or suffering as he is with the biggest loves of his life, the beasts (I mean nice animals) plus I am sure Harry and co visits him now and again and no doubt Albus Severus Potter will be running to Hagrid often when James teases him.

Molly: Oh Yeah. She sure showed Bellatrix what she’s really made of. And Jo’s explanation of her Maternal power just made it all the more sweet. Dont even think about prodding a nest when the mother is nearby or you’re dead!

Teddy: I feel more happiness for teddy. Totally understand Jo’s workmanship progress on changing her narrative to encapsulate Harry’s story of being an orphan and the fact that teddy has a better godfather than Harry had. Though tragically, Tonks and Lupin had to die – its a beautiful and poignat element in wrapping up the saga.

Dumbledore: Not much was really said about this fascinating bloke. Just kidding, his eccentricities, quirkiness (remember, none of these characteristics were actually depicted in the movies neither by Harris or Gambon) – from the moment he uttered some fun gibberish at the banquet in the first book, I thought what a quirky and mysterious character this will be. His taste in fashion in both flashbacks and present enhanced his eccentricity. This doesnt neccesarilly lead to conclusion that he is gay but the flashback story of dumbledore and Grindelwald certainly fits on reflecton. The books are about Love. About different kinds of Love. Love in freindship, maternal love, Snape love (sorry I dont know how to describe that one but its a bloody strong one!), blind love, love for life, love for people, love for your partner, and love in admiration which Jo now reveals was possibly Gay love. Why? Well, why not, I say.

The whole Nazi occupation mirroring in book 7 was always frightening to me and its good to see Jo confirm her narrative intentions on this subject

All this just leads me to want to read the whole series again – and I have a feeling I am going to have that little bit more of an emotional response to most of the characters I read about, even those horrible bullies Dudley and Malfoy, and yes Snape ;)

Jo is more clever than we ever give her credit for and this Neil fella seems to be a great husband for her.

Well, what a fascinating day in UK, England has just lost the Rugby world Cup final but who cares – Jo just stole the limelight.

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Wow, that kind of PC pandering almost makes me ill. If you’re gonna write him gay, do it, but don’t ex-post facto drag Dumbledore out of the closet. There was no hard evidence that the relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald was anything other than mutual youthful idealism masking a more sinister undercurrent of magical superiority. To me, this is nothing more than cheap pandering and a stunt. I expected higher quality from J.K.

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It would have been a lot braver of JKR if she had disclosed this BEFORE the book was published. IMHO.

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jasmine- I am absolutely disgusted by what you wrote. Think before you write, or please leave.

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Earlier I had made a comment about how the children would react when they heard this news. Since reading some new posts some said that children are already seeing it on the BBC and now it is on our local news. For those of you who doubted the kids would find out, you were just proven wrong!

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Dumbledore was gay not a pedophile. If you can’t tell the difference then I’m afraid there’s no hope for you.

JKR is the most popular author of all time, so she doesn’t need any more publicity. Her books are already banned in many places and there are yearly Harry Potter bonfires. She doesn’t have to try to make her books controversial, they already are. Therefore we have to accept that’s how she originally wrote the character, and it makes sense. I find Dumbledore being gay essential to the plot of Deathly Hallows, and important to Dumbledore’s past. His actions make sense now. There had to be a better explanation for Dumbledore’s infatuation with the Dark Arts and now there is. I kind of feel stupid for not seeing it.

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Oh my goodness! Dumbledore? That’s so gross! He’s filthy! The scum of the earth! He doesn’t deserve to live!

Yeah. Its called irony. All you people posting similar to the above about gay people listen to yourselves. Do you sound just a little bit too much like a DeathEater? (which is, of course, the point).

Whether you hate somebody because they are a mudblood, gay, or different from you in any other way, congratulations. You are the real-world equivalent of Voldemort, the DeathEaters, Delores Umbridge and the other bad guys in these books.

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I have to admit, you guys really amuse me.

I bet if I traced “HALF” the IP addresses of you haters, I’d find you writing slash fiction involving Snape and Harry. So now, what, you’re suddenly shocked?

Get over it. The character was made gay.

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All people [and wizards]are equal members of our one human family. Love you Jo!!!!!!!

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I have to say, I have been reading the comments a lot today, and a lot of them have made me cry. It’s overwhelmingly saddening to know that people are so willing to hate. To hate not just Dumbledore, but the series and J.K. Rowling as well. I always saw Harry Potter fans as open people, who, although they had their differances, accepted them. Maybe I’m just a naive 13-year-old. But I expected more from these people, as human beings.

I don’t understand a lot of things, and this kind of hate is one of them. Being gay doesn’t make so much of a differance to the person themselves. I have known several gay people, whom I’ve always loved very much as brothers and sisters. I cannot grasp how people are able to treat other people with such disrespect.

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Hmm… it’s pretty cool that Dumbledore’s gay, but there wasn’t any real hinting in the text to that effect. Honestly, J.K.R’s dissapointing me a bit, with all these answers that don’t make much sense in context with the books.

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Wow so sorry! I meant to say I am pro-gay (not anti-gay). So please don’t think I’m a jerk!

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Grace Weasly: You’re far from a naive 13-year-old. For your age, you’re much more mature than half the people posting comments here. It’s a shame more people can’t be so open and so understading.

It’s so interesting, how when we read the Harry Potter books we see all the hatred and anger displayed by Voldemort and his Death Eaters. The sad part is that these kinds of things happen in real life, with hatred and poor understanding of other human beings. Half of you here, those of you who are attacking the series simply because it has a homosexual character would fit right in with the Death Eaters. Congratulations for exemplifying exactly what the Harry Potter series gives us lessons about: prejudice.

Remember, that some of the worst things to happen in human history have been caused by prejudice and close-mindedness, my friends. Remember that.

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“Uncalled for.”

Really? So what book did YOU write? She’s the author. It’s her world. You’re here at HER leisure. NOT yours. It’s HER canon, not yours. He’s gay.

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KCH, that is just ridiculous. It was a question by a fan about a character, at an event designed to fans could ask just these kinds of questions. There were many questions asking for more information about characters. Nobody was trying to politicize anything. The information gives more context to DH, but I agree was not essential. But we fans crave to know more about all the characters. She just answered a fan’s question.

And as a mother, I’m disgusted by everyone covering their homophobia by pleading concern for the children finding out Dumbledore was gay. Almost all of us have gay people in our own family (whether they’ve shared that information with us or not), and we certainly all know gay people. It is a part of humanity, it’s nothing shameful and it doesn’t need to be hidden.

Melissa & co., PLEASE continue deleting, I’m seeing some very offensive posts. I wish I could give you a hand with it, frankly!

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Didn’t saw that coming!! XD Now we girls can say for sure that all the good ones are taken or either are gay!! XD

Thinking of it, it’s not strange at all. Dumbledore did never talk about a love interest in the series, and he was such a sensible man… I’m not saying that straight men can’t be sensible, but there was something special about Dumbledore.

I’m proud of JK Rowling!! She’s so brave for having revealed something like this!! ^ Other people wouldn’t have done it, afraid of the response of homophobe people. Her series are characterized for their fight against prejudices, having dealt with topics like blood, sex and physical appearance, and now she’s dealing with sexual orientation by making Dumbledore gay. It’s a fight against another prejudice. I don’t see why people should be uptight about it!! =) JK ROWLING ROCKS!! ^

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Well done, Jo! That’s all I have to say! I’m soooo happy!

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7th Year Dropout: Bless you. A voice of reason and understanding :).

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After reading some of these comments, I just had to add my two cents:

About Dumbledore coming on to Harry: That is insulting. I wonder if you think that one should never let a girl alone with a heterosexual man, because he surely would molest her?

About all that “it wasn’t necessary to the plot, she shouldn’t have answered it!”: Why did no one ever said that about Hannah/Neville? Or all the other heterosexual pairings? If you just have a problem with such information if it is about a character being gay, but never about a character being striaght, you do have a problem with gay people.

To the “Why did she say that now?”: Because she was asked? She didn’t say it out of the blue, she was asked after Dumbledore’s love life. So she answered it.

To the “This changes everything”: No, it doesn’t. It changes the sex of the person(s) he fell in love with, or choose to have sex with. So what?

About his being “religiously moral”: Actually, as a not-religious person I object to that. One can have a set of morals like Dumbledore’s without being in any way religious.

About it “turning people gay”: That’s hardly possible. It might just make people who are gay more comfortable with that. And even if a boy in the expreimentation stage tries making out with boys, because Dumbledore did, so what? If he isn’t gay, he will stop, and if he is gay, it probably helped him. There is no reason to assume that experimenting with someone your own sex is more harmful that doing it with someone of the other sex. Besides the reaction in society, that is. And that should change.

So, that were my – quite long – 2 cents.

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As a Jewish girl, I hated her interview on the Christian themes in the books and felt as if she ruined part of the seventh book for me. However, she made it up in this interview. One of the things that made me attached to these books was seeing Voldy and co. as the Nazis and she confirmed it was her influence, and Dumbledore being gay…hehe. Good to know she has respect for all types of religions, loves, etc. and that she is an open minded person. Now I can read DH again happily. :D

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I don’t quite understand why so many people “didn’t need to know that”?

Did you same people really need to know who Neville married?

It’s just another bit of trivia and backstory.

If you think about it, it makes his defeat of Grindelwald that much more profound.

There are gay people in the real world, so why not in Harry’s world?

The reveal of his sexual orientation is only shocking and/or offensive to people who still find being gay shocking and/or offensive.

Bravo!

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In preschool, my best friend was gay. I didn’t understand then, what being gay was. I understand now, and we have since lost contact, but that doesn’t stop me from having a sisterly place in my heart for my first ever friend. Gays can be some of the best people. They are certainly equel to others, at the very least. I have no idea where this hate comes from, but I’m glad that the comments board has settled down a bit.

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this is so… interesting! I mean i wouldve never thought of this! Dumbeldore to me was not the gay type of person.OMG! Too much suprises :D

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Terrell, you have it so right. Oh, the irony! JKR must be really disappointed that her fans learned nothing from reading her books.

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the deathly hallow is the BEST book ever!!!!

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Grace Weasley you give hope to human race. You go girl, what you said can be a great lesson to all the adults here tonight. I respect you.

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well, technically, she says “I kind of thought of him as being gay”. Therefore, that is really her interpretation of him. I don’t really buy it as it’s not mine, but since she’s the author she can do what she pleases.

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HPfanx14

ohk. here is another point. why would homosexuality make sense, when the whole point of sex is between a FEMALE and a MALE. that is how God made it. in the words of an old friend, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

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yeah grace i respect you 2.

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Grace, you rock. As does JKR! She is my hero. This news makes me love the books even more. It’s just wonderful. Tolerance and acceptance are where it’s at.

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As a gay man I found the Dumbledore being gay interesting. For those of you who say there were no signs in the books, why does there need to be signs? It doesn’t pertain to the story, so Jo did not include it. It is an interesting side note. Being gay is a part of you, it does not define you as a whole. Jo is an amazing writer. I always knew that she would be cool about people being gay. Now I have my proof. And for those of you who think it is gross and wrong that Jo “outed” Dumbledore, you don’t really get the message of the books.

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Just when I thought Jo could get no cooler =DDDDDDD I had always hoped for a homosexual character, just to be assured that Jo isn’t a homophobe. I had no idea it’d be Dumbledore though!!!! XP; Now, if only Sirius turned out to be in love with James…haha jk

I’d love to ask Jo how homosexuality is seen in the wizarding world, if that was part of the reason Dumbledore never (that we know of) told anyone his sexual preference.

And to those who are saying they’re “happy Dumbledore never came onto Harry”, being homosexual means to be attracted to the same sex, not to suddenly grow interested in little kids. Yes, there are homosexual pedophiles, but there are heterosexual pedophiles as well. Let’s not generalize, okay?? =DDD And I don’t blame Jo for not including Dumbledore’s love for Grindewald in the books. She even hinted in this interview that she was afraid of what everyone would think. And of course, lots of people DON’T like it. Everyone who saw reason to ban the books before is going to rejoice at another reason to ban them. <__<

Whatever, go Jo!!!!!!!!!!

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Oh, thank you very much, darkveela and Xx-Cutie-xX! That means a lot to me, after some of the names I have been called in the past :)

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Is anyone else tired of the “Dumbledore didn’t act gay” comments? How does one act gay? Was Dumbledore supposed to have a lisp and be overly flamboyant? Sorry that Dumbledore wasn’t a stereotype.

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I hate to say this…but it is not the news of Dumbledore being gay that brings great sadness to me today…it is the discovery that not all potter fans are as wonderful and accepting as I had imagined them to be…

I had thought we were all a community all joined together in our love of all things Potter. Now I’ve discovered that a portion of our community are actually intolerant, narrow-minded and downright hateful. Snakes in the grass.

Those hypocrite “christians” who had no problem with witchcraft…but suddenly now have a problem with gay people…”christians” like that absolutely SICKEN me…much like the so called “Christians” in the Republican party (all supposedly anti-gay…when in fact some of them ARE gay).

Christianity has run its course…it provided answers to people in search of them when things (at the time) could not be explained (lightning, tornadoes, where did man come from, etc etc). I am glad it is dying out with the growth of science and knowledge…(as opposed to “because god made it so”).

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“ohk. here is another point. why would homosexuality make sense, when the whole point of sex is between a FEMALE and a MALE. that is how God made it. in the words of an old friend, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.”

I’m sure Steve would be appalled to hear that God didn’t make him.

For the record, even if you believe that God made Adam and Eve (and that’s your belief, which I disagree with but I have no problems with on a different level), keep in mind that Christ said “love one another.” And he gave no other rules. He never said “love one another…except homosexuals…and Atheist.” He simply said “love one another.”

As for how homosexuality “makes sense:” that’s a pretty ridiculous thing to ask, considering there is millions of factors within nature that we have yet to understand. Sexuality (not just HOMOsexuality or HETEROsexuality, but sexuality as a whole) is one of those many things.

“well, technically, she says “I kind of thought of him as being gay”. Therefore, that is really her interpretation of him. I don’t really buy it as it’s not mine, but since she’s the author she can do what she pleases.”

No, she said she “ALWAYS thought of [him] being gay.” Which is a big difference and she goes a step further to confirm that Dumbledore fell in love with Grindewald. There is no way around that. She even told the director of Half-Blood Prince to take out the bit of diologue about him and his “old flame” because Dumbledore is gay.

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This is a “rant” I used on a message board a few hours ago. I thought I’d share it on here:

J.K. Rowling was asked about Dumbledore’s love life. She didn’t just randomly scream “Dumbledore’s gay!” at the top of her lungs when asked about Sherbet lemons or anything. Why is it distracting anyone from the story? It’s always been there, you just know it now. People say they just want the simple story of Harry Potter again and how it was all magical and crap. HP has always been political and free thinking and anti-prejudice and stuff. So why would having a character be gay be anything different that having a character (Hermione) be a made-up minority, muggle-born. You say it takes away from his “fatherliness”. Why? He’s gay…not a pedophile and so wouldn’t have been after Harry. It’s stereotypical and ridiculous. Why was it a bad move on JKR’s part? She shared that she’s tolerant and open minded and it’s a career mistake? Dumbledore was only a human, after all. Holding someone to such high regards as some people seem to isn’t healthy. Dumbledore had flaws (and I’m not saying being gay is one of them at all) just like everyone else. Yet he rose against it and helped Harry throughout the whole series. If you want to think of him as nothing now…fine. All I’m saying is that that’s wrong…just because he’s different than you.

I’m sorry for the rant but I had to get all that off my chest. Yes, I know it’s all fiction, but if people can’t handle that a beloved character is gay…how are they going to handle real life situations?

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Tonya-

THANK YOU! Someone finally understands that she was ANSWERING a legitimate QUESTION asked to her. It’s not as if she suddenly just yelled it out for no appareant reason.

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ms. grace easley – you are an angel and the hope for the furture

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Tonya, you put it perfectly. That is completely correct…I personally love J.K. all the more for not dodging it like some disease because she might lose fans over it.

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Bloodelf, Well said!

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Kharlo, this made my night : “I’m sure Steve would be appalled to hear that God didn’t make him.”

You are awesome, thank you for that :)

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hpexfab

The story of Adam and Eve, is that, a creation STORY written by the early Jews. And if you remember the story you would remember that Adam and Eve were asexual until they left the garden of eden. God didn’t want them to be heterosexual either (because that would result in them becoming parents and he was supposed to be the only parent) but they disobeyed him. So please don’t use that fable as the bases for prejudice.

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I’d just like to point out that, statistically, Dumbledore would have been much more likely to be a paedophile if he was heterosexual – despite popular belief gay men are less likely to abuse children than straight men. Doesn’t stop the intolerance though. sigh.

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this has nothing to do with the books and it was completely unneccessary information. every author has there own opinions and ideas about the characters but that doesn’t mean it applies to all the readers. everyone has their own opinions and ideas, its called imagination, i don’t need rowling to fill in the blanks! this makes me not like rowling, im really disappointed.

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Bloodelf, While you are blasting those Christians, you should look at the article on this same site. JKR says in an interview that she bases the entire series on Christianity. If it ‘dies out’ does that mean we won’t ever get quality writing from great other great authors??

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this has nothing to do with the books and it was completely unneccessary information. every author has there own opinions and ideas about the characters but that doesn’t mean it applies to all the readers. everyone has their own opinions and ideas, its called imagination, i don’t need rowling to fill in the blanks! this makes me not like rowling, im really disappointed.

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I’m seeing a lot of posts about Christianity, I like JK Rowling am a Christian. I like JK Rowling believe that bigotry is wrong. It’s not fair to tar all Christians with the same brush. The most important cammandment in Christian belief is to love one another bigotry is hate.

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I’m so disgust by some previous posts(jamaica,gasmine…). I’m so sure, that any of you who call Dumbledore a fag, have never seen how a Harry Potter book looks like and i don’t even dare to think that you have read a half line from the books. I’m so frustraded by all these because revealed this by Jo has help us to fully understand Dumbledore’s character and why he did all that with Grindelward.

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I love this. Jo is my favourite person ever. Dumbledore’s preference was so painfully obvious too. ;> I laugh at those of you who scratch your heads and say “huh?” Also, I’m highly amused by the idiots running around crying foul and whining about how disgusted they are. Ah, you sad, sad little people. Go cry in a corner. NO ONE CARES.

Dumbledore is still and always has been one of my absolute favourite characters. This just makes me love him MORE. Go Jo, go!

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I believe it was necessary information in that it doesn’t actually change Dumbledore, but it makes it clearer what he was all along. He had a hard life already, and the fact that his love for Gellert was not returned makes it twice as sad. This makes me forgive him for the things he did to Harry. It rebuilds my trust in him, which to me makes all the differance in the world. I think Dumbledore remains a wonderful character.

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“If you think about it, it makes his defeat of Grindelwald that much more profound.”

Alex, you’re so right about that!! I hadn’t think about it before!! The fact of Dumbledore fighting against somebody he had feelings for glorifies him!! It’s like Snapes drama the other way round!! Snape went over to the good side for love, and Dumbledore, despite his love, stayed in the good side!! His story is as tragic as Snape’s.

And Grace Weasley, I wish I had been that mature when I was 13!! ;)

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I was reading some of the comments in here earlier today and I eventually had to stop reading because of all the horrible things that were being said. I’ve decided to look again now and I can’t believe there’s been so many more posts that are just absolutely hateful.

I have to say I’m pretty dissapointed in how some of you are reacting to this. People inclining Dumbledore would have been sexually attracted to Harry, people who are happy Dumbledore’s dead because he was gay and people now hating the entire series because of this one character. It dissapoints me some of you that are part of this fandom, which I always looked upon as a good and fun bunch of people, have to act this way.

But – I’m also happy to see a lot of sensible posts as well. I’m happy to see there’s a lot of people who have common sense.

Dumbledore was and will always be my favorite character from the Harry Potter universe. I love his humour, kindness, quirks, wisdom, power and even his flaws, as they made him more human. Oh, and he also happened to be gay. So what? This doesn’t change Dumbledore in any way at all.

I hope the people who are posting hateful, rude or insulting comments one day take a good look at themselves and realise what they are saying. I’m gay myself. Some of these comments were really hurtful for me to read.

I’d like to thank everyone in this thread that posted sensible comments – some of them made me extremely happy.

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It was so obvious in the last book that he and Gellert Grindelwald had something more between them than friendship. I definitely thought there was something more intimate felt. It’s so great to have this announced and part of the real ‘verse now. This makes me so happy.

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“Call me old fashioned but my kids just don’t need to know this.”

Twinkletwinkle

I sure hope all your kids grow straight. No Gay kid deserves a parent, of the old or new fashioned variety, with with those intolerant attitudes!

But whadda you going to do when one of ‘em comes out to you??

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I want Christianity as a religion to become obsolete (which seems to be occurring with greater frequency)...it does not mean that Bible and all its STORIES shouldn’t still be read (but as works of fiction)...the Bible shelved next to Harry Potter!

Religions like Christianity and Islam just seem to spread so much death and violence (read your history books)...and in our case…hate and intolerance…all in the name of their god…

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Ditzy – thankyou! I’m not christian but I’ve always been to christian schools (about a third of english schools are C of E) and some of the filth and bile that has spewed from the mouths of a few of these supposed christians goes against everything i learned in bible class. Love thy neighbour and turn the other cheek, Jesus Christ it’s not that hard!

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@Lori I wonder since several days if I should sell my HP books. Well. Now I´m not sure anymore. I have to be responsible and to let people read books I cannot stand anymore (not just because of JKR´s “revelations”, )is maybe not really a good thing. I found DH merciless and stupid. Especially Lily had been so disgusting!

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Dumbledore gay? Now there’s a shocker.

Haha! I’m in a coffee shop and just looked up to miss the tail end of something saying “JK Rowling confirmed Friday.” I bet it’s about Dumbledore. :|

It doesn’t really add/detract to the story… it’s just kind of a random fact, to me.

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Alright, Bloodelf, you can call yourself “accepting” but by pinpointing christians and republicans you just made a huge generization. i usnderstand the republican remark, i think it was uncalled for but the republican party does oppose gay marraige; however, christians are not all against gay people. there are many christian denominations that support gays and actually promote their acceptence of homosexual people. If you hate discrimination and generalization than play it both ways even for people you may disagree with in other realms.

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Enough of this “gay lifestyle” crap. Sorry to break it to you but it’s not a choice. Closet homosexuals can pretend to be straight all they want, just look at all the right wing, Republican, gay bashers, but it doesn’t change the fact that they’re still gay. Lying to yourself won’t change that. Calling it a “lifestyle” makes it seem like a trend or an epidemic.

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Ummm, according to Dumbledore himself, didn’t he put off going to face Grindelwald because he was afraid of finding out he was the one who cast the spell that killed his sister?

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If you were gay (doobedoo doobedoo) that’d be ok (doobedoo doobedoo) I mean ‘cause hey! (doobedoo doobedoo) I’d like you anyway Because you see (doobedoo doobedoo)if it were me (doobedoo doobedoo)I would feel free to say that I was gay (but I’m