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Detailed Report on "Order of the Phoenix" DVD Deleted Scenes and Extras

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Posted by: Sue
November 07, 2007, 09:57 PM

With many thanks due to TLC reader Joanne, we now have a detailed report on some of the extras and deleted scenes due to be included on the "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" DVD. Joanne, who purchased the DVD last week as it was released in South Africa, sent in a breakdown of the many new things we will see. As there are a fair number of serious SPOILERS contained in the following report, if you wish to avoid them until the release in the UK on November 12 and in the US December 11, please stop reading now! However, those wishing to read details about the deleted scenes with Neville, Trelawney, Umbridge, the special feature with Tonks and more, scroll down. NOTE: Joanne was not able to yet access the link to the sneak peek to the upcoming "Half-Blood Prince" film.

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HERE IT IS.... A breakdown of each of the deleted scenes contained on the "Order of the Phoenix" DVD are as follows (spoilers!)

The second disc menu opens with a sweeping shot of the Black Family Tree Tapestry – stunning! Though I couldn’t see much it moves quite quickly. There were tantalizing glimpses including – the Black Family Crest – a coat of arms topped by a skull, with three ravens and an armoured hand holding a wands, and the motto Toujours Pur. Plus all those names – the Prewitts, Weasleys, Tonks’s, Regulus and Sirius, and someone called Orion Walburg (1925-195/8?). The shot ends with Lucius and then great embroidered face of Draco Malfoy. The branches also have little skulls, dragons, Griffons, and a Snake on the branch. Then the menu comes (still in tapestry form) and you choose from: additional scenes,Trailing Tonks, Hidden secrets of HP, HP: the magic of editing

Trelawney Eating
An extended shot of Trelawney eating her way through her dinner while Umbridge is making her speech in the backgrounds. Obviously, the cameraman couldn’t move on because Emma is so truly hysterically funny. Lots of fumbling and bumbling (I won’t spoil it for you by giving you all the details). A lovely touch is the ironic counterpoint of Umbridge’s phrases ( “utmost seriousness, practices which must be pruned, improve what can be improved, etc.) with Trelawney’s muddled messes. What’s nice is that you get to see lovely details of the table settings.

Neville in Common Room
Additional bit (only a few seconds long) after Harry’s confrontation with Seamus in the Gryffindor common room, where Neville talks about it being the Daily Prophet that’s rubbish.

Gryffindor Common Room
This is one continuous sweeping shot of the common room taking in all the other students before coming to rest on Harry sitting alone in front of the fire. I think it is after the detention with Umbridge and before Harry’s chat on the sofa at the fire with Ron and Hermione. There are some delightful touches, including a couple snogging on the stairs, Nevillle tending his Mimbulus Mimbletonia, some girls plaiting each other’s hair, Seamus and Dean playing cards, and glimpses of the tapestries on the walls. They should definitely have kept this scene! It’s just a complete contrast to the horror Harry has just endured with Umbridge, and it emphasizes how alone and apart from other students Harry is, how much more serious his worries are.

Umbridge questions Trelawney during a dream interpretation class
This is a lovely scene, with a sarcastic Umbridge interrupting and generally terrorizing Trelawney. There are also some great cuts to Ron (canon Ron - yay!) and Harry. Harry shows more grim, adult-like expressions as we see his dawning realization of how cruel Umbridge is, how she enjoys her power, how she is beginning to interfere at Hogwarts. They have cut this longish scene up into short cuts which they have spliced into the Umbridge Montage in the final cut of the film. Although the gist of the scene is kept, the mounting/dawning realization of what is happening (“The Minister’s eyes and ears”), is lost. Slytherins are grinning in the background, enjoying the cruelty. I think this sets up their later conversion to the Inquisitorial Squad. The scene also sets up Trelawney’s dismissal very nicely

Umbridge and Filch
Just a few seconds of Umbridge and Filch looking down from a high tower or balcony while some Slytherins (including Draco, Crabbe and Goyle) bully a young Ravenclaw student in the quad below. The scene shows her tolerance of evil as long as it supports her domination of the school, and her natural inclination to sadism, but not much is lost by omitting this from the movie.

Filch and Umbridge’s hair
Filch sniffing then blowing on Umbridge’s still smoking hair (after the fireworks)

Extended forest scene with Umbridge, Hermione and Harry
A longish scene in which Umbridge explains herself more, justifies her actions, and tries to elicit sympathy from Harry and Hermione. She winds up crying “Look what you’ve done to me, I cannot take it anymore!”

Harry in DD’s office
After the battle at the ministry, a rather battered Harry enters Dumbledore’s office. There are nice details of the office, the whirring and clicking instruments, the Gryffindor sword (I think – though it looks a little plain) on the desk, and cabinets full of mysterious objects in the background. But sadly (sigh) Harry does not go mad with grief and rage and smash things up. Harry spots the sorting hat again, then angrily turns to walk out but is called by back by DD.

Harry packing
Extended version of the scene in which Harry is packing to go home. Ron comes in and Harry tells him to go on to the feast without him (Harry). Ron returns to Hermione in the common room, and just shrugs in response to her enquiring glance. Nice canon Ron, good emphasis of Harry’s grief and aloneness, but to my taste, the poignancy of the scene is lost when Hermione half smiles in response to Ron’s shrug.

TRAILING TONKS
A high Energy Natalia Tena roams around Leavesdon Studios, using a marauder’s map type effect to show the viewer which department will be viewed next. We get to see her: in hair and make-up, the sound desk on one of the sound stages (not much to see there), the canteen, singing while playing a guitar in her trailer, cuddling the boarhound who plays Fang, Matt Lewis and Alfie Enoch (Dean) playing some cricket out on a nearby field, art departments – with a model of Kreecher’s head and one of the brooms, and brief views of some models of the set (e.g., atrium of the Ministry, Hogsmeade Village), graphics dept where we see Daily Prohpet newspapers, Sirius “Wanted” Poster, Marauders’ Map (yay!), special FX dept (wands, locking door from Gringotts movie I, prophecy ball, sound stage with fighting (wand dueling) training session, soundstage in the room of requirement, brief chat with Dan. Here everyone was wearing wierd blue surgeon-type shoes (so as not to muck up set floor?) Grimmauld Place kitchen and house (super-brief) Ministry atrium with set men scattering the floor with the shattered glass, model shop (centaurs, Mimulus Mimbletonia)

extra feature “Secrets of HP”
Narrated by the sexy-voiced Jason Isaacs (I knew you’d like that, Sue!), this is a long feature along main HP themes (e.g., Things are not what they seem; Choice; Pride and Prejudice; Battle for Harry; It includes: cuts and a few stills from all the movies so far,brief comments by all the major cast members (except Gambon ), David Heyman, and David Yates. Also no Alan Rickman (maybe he was still sitting on his Snapey secrets!) and theorizing by commentators including Jane Scott Batchler (author of “What will Harry Do?”), John Granger (author “Unlocking Harry Potter) and a fair few comments from Steve Vander Ark. No new movie material (I think). It gives the backstory of Harry, and his connection to Voldemort, his developing identity, etc.It’s a nice feature, though it could have been more in-depth for the true fan’s liking.

Extra feature: "Harry Potter and The magic of editing"
This is a shortish featurette on the difference that editing, visual effects, music and sound can make to a scene, with an interactive exercise at the end where you can choose the edits and accompanying sound and music for a scene (DA practice). I couldn't get this "game" feature to work, but this may be due to deficiencies in my DVD player, or my (non-existent) gaming ability.

Thanks very much Joanne!

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71 Comments

sasha

Sorry meant to say is it 10 minutes of deleted scenes then or 17 minutes in the first part there.

Posted by sasha on November 07, 2007, 11:50 PM report to moderator
BellaSnape

Yah I agree with thee above It sounded like stuff we all heard before equalling 1omin and they promised us 7 more which I hope includes the Sirius vs Bells duel PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! sorry I just love Bellatrix and thought she didnt have enough time on screen!

Posted by BellaSnape on November 08, 2007, 12:03 AM report to moderator
Michelle

Where is the special interviews of Dan, Gary Oldman, and Alan Rickman that we were supposed to get? There was supposed to be a special thing where those guys talked. Perhaps it’s in the HBP features on the DVD-ROM and snce the HBP stuff isn’t up yet, then maybe those will come later? I dunno. But honestly, I wish AR would stop sitting on the Snape secrets as they are rather out and about now. I want to know what he thinks of them!

Posted by Michelle on November 08, 2007, 12:23 AM report to moderator
Hermionetwin

@Grader: I haven’t read HBP in a while, but if memory serves, I don’t think Harry even sets foot inside Grimmauld Place during that year (I may be wrong of course), so how would they be able to discover the locket? They could do it in the 7th book, but in DH an entire episode is dedicated to the trio trying to get the locket from Umbridge at the Ministry, but how would she have gotten it in the first place, if Mundungus hadn’t sold it to her? What I’m getting at is that Harry is supposed to have a revelation about the locket after remembering them cleaning the house, and then asks Kreacher about it, but if he never did the cleaning in the first place, how would he remember it? They may work out another way to introduce the locket in DH, but it will completely ruin the smooth plot that JK wove through books 5&7. It would have been so much easier to feature a 3 minute scene of them cleaning the house in the 5th movie, or at least put it in the bonus features.

Posted by Hermionetwin on November 08, 2007, 12:37 AM report to moderator
Suzanne

This is kind of a let down. I mean, no offense, but who really cares about Trelawny eating and trailing Tonks. And no cast interviews?!

Posted by Suzanne on November 08, 2007, 12:40 AM report to moderator
kamion

Utterly rubbish that the Worst Memory is not included.

Posted by kamion on November 08, 2007, 12:52 AM report to moderator
Grader

@hermionetwin- What I mean was get the fake locket in the cave in HBP. Like I said they could just cut out the whole Umbridge storyline and have Harry looking in Regulus’ room and then Kreacher appears and Harry asks him if he knew Regulus. Thus, the locket.

Oh, and Erik was right. Bunch of comments about Snape Worst Memory even though they’re saving it for DH so obviously they won’t show it. Use common sense people.

Posted by Grader on November 08, 2007, 01:01 AM report to moderator
Hannah

Very disappointing extras. The deleted scenes sound negligible, and we aren’t getting any of the important ones (Snape’s worst memory, etc.). What makes it worse is that we know they shot this—why wouldn’t they just give it to us? The only feature of substance is the Secrets of Harry Potter one, which sounds like it’s exactly the same as the special on A&E that was shown when OotP came out in July. We’ve already seen that one (in fact I saved it to DVD from the television—what a waste of time that turned out to be). Finally, and most inexcusable of all, no “Conversations With the Cast”? No interview with the director, for crying out loud? I though WB had made a huge leap forward in the quality and quantity of extras on the GoF DVD. This is just a huge let-down :(

Posted by Hannah on November 08, 2007, 01:07 AM report to moderator
BellaSnape

Does Anybody else miss the Sirius Bella duel? and yes I heard about the interviews with Gary, Alan and Dan too, so why arnt they in there- I really want to hear from Alan because Snape is my favorite wizard and by now I’m sure you know my favorite witch-( shes a little demented )

Posted by BellaSnape on November 08, 2007, 01:07 AM report to moderator
Flittwick

Looking forward to the DVD , I dont care what anyone else says I will make my own appraisal. Good luck all .

Posted by Flittwick on November 08, 2007, 01:09 AM report to moderator
Katie

WHERE IS SNAPE’S WORST MEMORY?? I know other people are asking this question but it bears screaming again. They filmed it-they filmed it!!!! We have all seen that still with the teenage Lily. They filmed, then butchered one of the most pivotal moments in the entire series and then come out with a DVD with Filch extras-SERIOUSLY? SERIOUSLY Someone opined that WB might be saving it for the Prince’s Tale in Deathly Hallows. That would be OK, but I will not hold my breath.

Has anyone heard any Narcissa casting news? Until we do, I have to assume Spinner’s End will be cut from the 6th movie.

As some of you have said, I would also love to hear the delectable Alan Rickman speak about Snape, but honestly, why should he bother? JKR gave him this rich, complex, fascinating man, but the filmakers give him almost nothing to do.

It seems WB is really focused on the kids-the trio and other students. Many of the adult characters have full stories, rich histories and complex, nuanced characters and motivations, but unless they directly serve or relate to Harry, it is cut. That’s a shame. Despite the perception of the non-HP reading population, we know that the HP books are not merely kids books-but to look at the movies, you’d never know it.

Posted by Katie on November 08, 2007, 01:54 AM report to moderator
Katie

My apologies for the crossed out lines. I don’t know why it does that. Must remember to never use a hyphen here again.

Posted by Katie on November 08, 2007, 01:56 AM report to moderator
Confederate Lady

OMG! Haven’t read any of the other comments (yet) ‘cause I’m on my “way” to Amazon.com (and anywhere else I can think of) to pre-order (if I can!) I hope this is for the “regular” DVDs! Too cool! *D

Posted by Confederate Lady on November 08, 2007, 02:01 AM report to moderator
siyrean

i’m still pissed that they’re not releasing SWM or the sirius bella duel… like unbelievably pissed to the point where i’m not even sure i want the thing anymore. just feels like a slap in the face to fans

Posted by siyrean on November 08, 2007, 02:08 AM report to moderator
Confederate Lady

Well, I’m back from my “journey”...Both Yahoo!Movies and Amazon.com are offering ‘Harry Potter and The Order Of The Phoenix’ for “pre-order” Amazon does NOT give a price for either the Two-Disk DVD (with all the special stuff) or the “basic” DVD….Yahoo!Movies gives a “basic price” (what the starting price should be) $22.40 for the Two Disk (with all the features) and $ 22.51 for the “basic, widescreen”. That’s all from the Internet…Check your “local listings” for other prices! I’m getting my set from Amazon, I think. It apparently is out for Pre-sale, kids! Better order now, or you won’t see it before New Years (I’m pretty sure!)

Posted by Confederate Lady on November 08, 2007, 02:49 AM report to moderator
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