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Detailed Report on "Order of the Phoenix" DVD Deleted Scenes and Extras

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Posted by: Sue
November 07, 2007, 09:57 PM

With many thanks due to TLC reader Joanne, we now have a detailed report on some of the extras and deleted scenes due to be included on the "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix" DVD. Joanne, who purchased the DVD last week as it was released in South Africa, sent in a breakdown of the many new things we will see. As there are a fair number of serious SPOILERS contained in the following report, if you wish to avoid them until the release in the UK on November 12 and in the US December 11, please stop reading now! However, those wishing to read details about the deleted scenes with Neville, Trelawney, Umbridge, the special feature with Tonks and more, scroll down. NOTE: Joanne was not able to yet access the link to the sneak peek to the upcoming "Half-Blood Prince" film.

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HERE IT IS.... A breakdown of each of the deleted scenes contained on the "Order of the Phoenix" DVD are as follows (spoilers!)

The second disc menu opens with a sweeping shot of the Black Family Tree Tapestry – stunning! Though I couldn’t see much it moves quite quickly. There were tantalizing glimpses including – the Black Family Crest – a coat of arms topped by a skull, with three ravens and an armoured hand holding a wands, and the motto Toujours Pur. Plus all those names – the Prewitts, Weasleys, Tonks’s, Regulus and Sirius, and someone called Orion Walburg (1925-195/8?). The shot ends with Lucius and then great embroidered face of Draco Malfoy. The branches also have little skulls, dragons, Griffons, and a Snake on the branch. Then the menu comes (still in tapestry form) and you choose from: additional scenes,Trailing Tonks, Hidden secrets of HP, HP: the magic of editing

Trelawney Eating
An extended shot of Trelawney eating her way through her dinner while Umbridge is making her speech in the backgrounds. Obviously, the cameraman couldn’t move on because Emma is so truly hysterically funny. Lots of fumbling and bumbling (I won’t spoil it for you by giving you all the details). A lovely touch is the ironic counterpoint of Umbridge’s phrases ( “utmost seriousness, practices which must be pruned, improve what can be improved, etc.) with Trelawney’s muddled messes. What’s nice is that you get to see lovely details of the table settings.

Neville in Common Room
Additional bit (only a few seconds long) after Harry’s confrontation with Seamus in the Gryffindor common room, where Neville talks about it being the Daily Prophet that’s rubbish.

Gryffindor Common Room
This is one continuous sweeping shot of the common room taking in all the other students before coming to rest on Harry sitting alone in front of the fire. I think it is after the detention with Umbridge and before Harry’s chat on the sofa at the fire with Ron and Hermione. There are some delightful touches, including a couple snogging on the stairs, Nevillle tending his Mimbulus Mimbletonia, some girls plaiting each other’s hair, Seamus and Dean playing cards, and glimpses of the tapestries on the walls. They should definitely have kept this scene! It’s just a complete contrast to the horror Harry has just endured with Umbridge, and it emphasizes how alone and apart from other students Harry is, how much more serious his worries are.

Umbridge questions Trelawney during a dream interpretation class
This is a lovely scene, with a sarcastic Umbridge interrupting and generally terrorizing Trelawney. There are also some great cuts to Ron (canon Ron - yay!) and Harry. Harry shows more grim, adult-like expressions as we see his dawning realization of how cruel Umbridge is, how she enjoys her power, how she is beginning to interfere at Hogwarts. They have cut this longish scene up into short cuts which they have spliced into the Umbridge Montage in the final cut of the film. Although the gist of the scene is kept, the mounting/dawning realization of what is happening (“The Minister’s eyes and ears”), is lost. Slytherins are grinning in the background, enjoying the cruelty. I think this sets up their later conversion to the Inquisitorial Squad. The scene also sets up Trelawney’s dismissal very nicely

Umbridge and Filch
Just a few seconds of Umbridge and Filch looking down from a high tower or balcony while some Slytherins (including Draco, Crabbe and Goyle) bully a young Ravenclaw student in the quad below. The scene shows her tolerance of evil as long as it supports her domination of the school, and her natural inclination to sadism, but not much is lost by omitting this from the movie.

Filch and Umbridge’s hair
Filch sniffing then blowing on Umbridge’s still smoking hair (after the fireworks)

Extended forest scene with Umbridge, Hermione and Harry
A longish scene in which Umbridge explains herself more, justifies her actions, and tries to elicit sympathy from Harry and Hermione. She winds up crying “Look what you’ve done to me, I cannot take it anymore!”

Harry in DD’s office
After the battle at the ministry, a rather battered Harry enters Dumbledore’s office. There are nice details of the office, the whirring and clicking instruments, the Gryffindor sword (I think – though it looks a little plain) on the desk, and cabinets full of mysterious objects in the background. But sadly (sigh) Harry does not go mad with grief and rage and smash things up. Harry spots the sorting hat again, then angrily turns to walk out but is called by back by DD.

Harry packing
Extended version of the scene in which Harry is packing to go home. Ron comes in and Harry tells him to go on to the feast without him (Harry). Ron returns to Hermione in the common room, and just shrugs in response to her enquiring glance. Nice canon Ron, good emphasis of Harry’s grief and aloneness, but to my taste, the poignancy of the scene is lost when Hermione half smiles in response to Ron’s shrug.

TRAILING TONKS
A high Energy Natalia Tena roams around Leavesdon Studios, using a marauder’s map type effect to show the viewer which department will be viewed next. We get to see her: in hair and make-up, the sound desk on one of the sound stages (not much to see there), the canteen, singing while playing a guitar in her trailer, cuddling the boarhound who plays Fang, Matt Lewis and Alfie Enoch (Dean) playing some cricket out on a nearby field, art departments – with a model of Kreecher’s head and one of the brooms, and brief views of some models of the set (e.g., atrium of the Ministry, Hogsmeade Village), graphics dept where we see Daily Prohpet newspapers, Sirius “Wanted” Poster, Marauders’ Map (yay!), special FX dept (wands, locking door from Gringotts movie I, prophecy ball, sound stage with fighting (wand dueling) training session, soundstage in the room of requirement, brief chat with Dan. Here everyone was wearing wierd blue surgeon-type shoes (so as not to muck up set floor?) Grimmauld Place kitchen and house (super-brief) Ministry atrium with set men scattering the floor with the shattered glass, model shop (centaurs, Mimulus Mimbletonia)

extra feature “Secrets of HP”
Narrated by the sexy-voiced Jason Isaacs (I knew you’d like that, Sue!), this is a long feature along main HP themes (e.g., Things are not what they seem; Choice; Pride and Prejudice; Battle for Harry; It includes: cuts and a few stills from all the movies so far,brief comments by all the major cast members (except Gambon ), David Heyman, and David Yates. Also no Alan Rickman (maybe he was still sitting on his Snapey secrets!) and theorizing by commentators including Jane Scott Batchler (author of “What will Harry Do?”), John Granger (author “Unlocking Harry Potter) and a fair few comments from Steve Vander Ark. No new movie material (I think). It gives the backstory of Harry, and his connection to Voldemort, his developing identity, etc.It’s a nice feature, though it could have been more in-depth for the true fan’s liking.

Extra feature: "Harry Potter and The magic of editing"
This is a shortish featurette on the difference that editing, visual effects, music and sound can make to a scene, with an interactive exercise at the end where you can choose the edits and accompanying sound and music for a scene (DA practice). I couldn't get this "game" feature to work, but this may be due to deficiencies in my DVD player, or my (non-existent) gaming ability.

Thanks very much Joanne!

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71 Comments

Daniel

Hey. How about the “the over 3 hours of never before seen footage from all of the movies dvd” thats releasing with the dvd trunk,the limited edition,I mean?

Posted by Daniel on November 08, 2007, 12:52 PM report to moderator
Confederate Lady

As I said, daniel! The more “expensive” the set, the more extras you’ll get. I know it sounds unfair, but there you are! As with everything else: You can’t please everyone. Unfortunately, the “Extended Versions In The Trunk” will disappointment someone, somewhere.

Posted by Confederate Lady on November 08, 2007, 01:09 PM report to moderator
Mistral

Dear Warner Brothers. If you read this by chance, why in the name of Merlins pants, did you let Mr. Yates film “Snapes Worst Memory”? With all the fuss for finding the perfect young actors – so that in the end it is not included at least on the DVD? I admit, I went to see OotP three times – not that it got any better mind you. But even if I would watch it TEN times, there was no LILY POTTER! It is not that I hate the way David Yates filmed it…no…it disturbs me, because it turns from one scene to another – as if they were afraid to use too much material! Maybe no one has told you this dear WB, most of the movie- goers are fans of the HP books! WE guessed all along that Severus Snape was playing a big part in the series. So why are you cheating us of his present, putting him more and more in the background? So that when we watch HBP and DH, we will all go “OH – AH – who would of thought that of Professor Snape? Do you know that you have apart from Daniel and co., the unsurpassable Alan Rickman for the role of Severus Snape?? One of the reason so many adults also go and watch your Harry Potter films!!!! You have been so very generous with all the little details, actors, filming on locations, costumes ect. we appreciate this absolutely – but please don’t continue to change and ad characters who are not in the books! Should it happen as “Peverell” suggested, that when all the movies are done – finally we will have all the deleted scenes integrated on NEW DVD’s – don’t cry over spilled milk ($$$)-because one day the Potter fans will have grown up – and only the die-hard fans will buy your newest DVD’s!

Posted by Mistral on November 08, 2007, 01:21 PM report to moderator
Marauder

Not having Snape’s Worst Memory on here is about the stupidest thing I ever heard. Forget Tonks, I want to see more of young MWPP!

Posted by Marauder on November 08, 2007, 01:33 PM report to moderator
BellaSnape

I agree that why cast those young actors to play the younger versions of Lupin,Sirius,Snape, James and Lily and Have it last barely 5sec. then on top of that dont even show it to us- its not like the movie was terribly long it was short to devoted Potterphiles. And this is just me but I think to have Sirius duel Lucius and that other deatheater in the movie and then just have Bella apper and kill him really donesnt make sense, it would’ve been better by the book- not to mention Helena and Gary said they got blisters from all that dueling – then to not put it in there!

Posted by BellaSnape on November 08, 2007, 02:01 PM report to moderator
Mistral

Right you are BellaSnape. Helena Bonham Carter was so unique as BELLA. Her witch-like crazy laugh was unforgettable! By the way, I don’t remember it, do they even mention that Bellatrix was Sirius cousin? I wonder if they will get a new actress for Narcissa Malfoy – or if Helena is going to play also the blond Cissy? Just a thought of mine – did not Tonks Mom Andromeda, resemble Bellatrix so hard, that when Harry arrived in Deathly Hallows, he first thought it was Bellatrix? I wouldn’t mind, HBC is just too good an actress!

Posted by Mistral on November 08, 2007, 02:26 PM report to moderator
lisa

Why didnt they leave all of that in the movie??? Its doesnt make any sense! Everything would have flowed so much better….GAH! they frustrate me!

Thanks for all the info!

Posted by lisa on November 08, 2007, 02:33 PM report to moderator
ginny

Is it just me or are the special features on the DVD’s getting worse with every movie? I’ve just watched the “Additional scenes” on the OOTP DVD and its REALLY pathetic, theres no wonder it didn’t make it through to the movie. There has got to be better footage than the few unimportant bits that we got. I must say I’m really dissapointed. GOF’s DVD was loads better.

Posted by ginny on November 08, 2007, 02:43 PM report to moderator
wb

everyone who is complaining about certain scenes, ie snape’s memory not being included: think rationally a moment. to include said scene, the actress that played lily would have to be compensated quite a bit more, as she was not featured in the final cut, other extras would also have to be compensated, etc. of course they’re not going to do that; wb exist solely to make money, like any business.

Posted by wb on November 08, 2007, 03:07 PM report to moderator
Not

I really really hate david yates as a director.

Posted by Not on November 08, 2007, 03:13 PM report to moderator
redbeard

Don’t hate david yates, I don’t think he’s responsible for any of the extra’s on the dvd. They’ve got other people for that. I thought he made a wonderful film. I am glad he will back for half blood prince. I’m not sure is I would like him for deathly hallows though. His style seems to sober and down to earth to give potter the end it deserves. But maybe that was just his vision for the fifth film. He might just blow me away with the sixth. Otherwise, I just want Cuaron to come back. (I wouldn’t mind Del Toro either, just watch Pans Labirinth)

Posted by redbeard on November 08, 2007, 04:05 PM report to moderator
hem

The DVD Extras are really pathetic in terms of quality and quantity.

Posted by hem on November 08, 2007, 04:39 PM report to moderator
Becky

Shame they’ve left Bellatrix and Sirius’ battle out. Still, the special features sound awesome.

Posted by Becky on November 08, 2007, 04:54 PM report to moderator
Katie

Good points everyone. To go off topic for a moment, does anyone else miss the Petunia Howler and Petunia knowing about Azkaban dialogue? I know it wasn’t filmed, but I wish it was. It would have added maybe 90 to 120 seconds to the film but so much to Petunia’s character. That part just made my head reel when I read it in the book for the first time.

Posted by Katie on November 08, 2007, 06:04 PM report to moderator
isabela

no SWM or B/S duel? ):

Posted by isabela on November 08, 2007, 07:55 PM report to moderator
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