CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!! I knew they’d win!!!! i feel sooooooo sorry for rupert though!! his face when dan’s name was announced!!! poor thing!! but i’m glad harry potter and the order of the pheonix won best faily film!!!
Thestralseyes: I am a big enough person to admit that Daniel Radcliffe is better at acting then he used to be but to me AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE, he will never be Harry. I am not alone in my opinion at all so sorry. I think anyone who thinks Dan can act needs glasses and i pity anyone who didn’t enjoy Driving Lessons and think Rupert rocked the hell out of it. The only reason Dan and Emma won is because Harry Potter is such a worldwide big thing. Any book series made into films gets A LOT OF attention. The fans who voted only voted for Dan and Emma because they like Harry Potter and i think those fans who voted did not even consider acting ability. Everyone on mugglenet is like eh how did Dan beat DANIEL CRAIG AND JOHNNY DEPP? They ALL agree so i think you need to open your eyes a bit. Also, just because Daniel played a psycho character and got naked doesn’t make him a good actor.
Kerrie, don’t be sorry for me. And don’t pity me either. I don’t care a bit that a lot of people think he will never be Harry. The truth is that he is Harry for many more (the award, the prove). And he is for me and satisfies my expectations for the portrayal of the character on screen. I am not going to arguing with you. If I, and everybody that see that Daniel can act, need glasses then you all that don’t see it are completely blind. You are entitled to think what you want but many people voted form him because they think he was the one that deserved it, based in his talent to bring the character to life. And don’t mention mugglenet. The commentaries section is composed by the most incredible bunch of inmature people I have ever seen in my life in the net. What they say means nothing to me. When I need a good laugh I go there to read their comments.
And Daniel is not a good actor because he played a psycho character and got naked. We was brilliant becuase he got under the skin of that psycho character, brought it to life, dealed perfectly with the dinamics of the play, the dialogs, the choreography, the anger, the pain, the desperation, the shyness, the horror,... All that in every performance 8 times a week for 4 months and didn’t fail one day, giving a performance that got an standing ovation almost every day. And no kids there, but theater goes, people that know what acting is. And the same goes for the critics. And he has been called to do it in Broadway next year. If all this doesn’t mean anything to you, you don’t need to explain anything else. Tell me who needs glasses.
Perhaps you might not believe this, but I respect your opinion. What I cannot accept is people saying that something white is black. You might not like Dan’s acting for whatever reasons. That is perfectly acceptable. But you can’t say he cannot act. He can and very well. If he doesn’t appeal to you is an enterely different matter and you are entitled to your opinion as the rest are to their own.
And no hard feelings, at least on my side.
yea no hard feelings, I like that you like Daniel so much, if i liked him more i would enjoy the movies more. But unfortunatley I just don’t see what you see. The main point i was trying to make though is that I really really don’t beleive that the fans were voting for Daniel or Emma, just their characters from the books. If you think they’re good actors thats cool i don’t care, but no-one in their right mind could think Radcliffe is better then Daniel Craig or Johnny Depp, and Emma being better then Judi Dench? Its just ridiculous. And please don’t say, their young etc… but it doesn’t make a difference. Johnny Depp started acting as a teenager too and was always better then Radcliffe in my eyes. Its a shame you can’t see that the fans were voting for the characters, not the actors. You’ve actually persuaded me that Daniel Radcliffe is a better actor then I give him credit for, but still he’s not better then Craig or Depp. Hes just not, ask anyone. The fact that the 7th book was released in July, the same month as the movie, was probably the reason they won. People were waiting for the last book for so long and were dying to find out how it ended that it probably had a large affect on the voting. And not just the book but because Harry Potter is such a big thing in general. I can back up my argument by telling you that Daniel Radcliffe said himself that he wanted Daniel Craig to win, and he didn’t expect to win at all, hence the really shocked look on his face haha. But hey if you don’t beleive it, thats cool. It makes no difference to me :)
I liked Emma’s dress. I see them at all the stores here in Florida. They are called shirt dress and have been in and out of style many times in the 50’s,80’s and now again this fall. Maybe it was not as formal as the others but maybe she made a mistake and thought the awards was not as formal. I think the color is great on her.
On another note, I think they all look very tired. Look at there eyes they are all puffy.
I think they all look great and they look like they are having fun together.
Kerrie, thanks for not keeping hard feelings for me in this little argument. There are things we never are going to agree with so it is better to leave it. No point in continue the discussion. But there is something I think you didn’t get (most probable I didn’t make myself to understand) is that I don’t think Daniel Radcliffe is a better actor than Johnny Depp or Daniel Craig. Never said that and I really think they are better. Experience is agrade, no doubt about it. And also never said that Daniel is the best actor of his age. Many others were better at his age. But he can act and very well, even if he is not the best. And I voted for him because I sincerely think he was the best in that performance in that particular character.
Thanks for giving a bit of credit to Dan. I promise you when I see Driving Lessons again I will pay more attention to Rupert’s performance. I must admit that his performance in GOF put me off for him. But I liked him a lot more in OotP. And probably you will like to know that seeing what he did in OotP and considering he is working with Yates again, I truly think I will like him in HBP. I think he has talent but he needs to project that and above all to work often and hard in order to develop that talent. In acting, talent is not all that matters.
In spite of our little argument, it has been a pleasure to talk to you. I would love to see all Rupert, Emma and Dan fans to live in armony. I know it is almost impossible. The best to you, sincerely.
yes all the best to you as well. It was quite an interesting disscussion. I very much agree that Rupert’s worst preformance was in GOF but perhaps that was the script more then Rupert himself. Some of the things Ron said in that film were pretty stupid haha. Anyway all the best.
You know, I thought myself many times that the main problem with the performances of those kids (well young people now) are not their talent but the script they are given. You said yourself how good Rupert was in DL. I myself thought we was better than in HP. Dan did very well in Equus, but the play is a masterpiece, there is material there for an actor to sink his teeth in. We all should give the benefict of doubt to the trio. Hope they all are given good material in the future to lead remarkable careers. They all can do it. It is a matter of dedication, hard work and, of course, luck. They already have talent. The future will tell the rest.
By claiming that Rupert gave his worst performance in GoF you guys have practically made me doubt whether we’ve seen the same movie. My guess is that you simply disliked him in it because he played Ron who turned against your precious Harry and showed that he was a moody teenager and not just a goofy sidekick. You should watch his performance more closely, and without any character bias. He is always there, in character, even when he doesn’t say a thing, he can do something with his face, a small, hardly noticeable little thing that is just so spot on and so funny and right. Just to mention a few of those moments: in a scene where Hermione is getting upset about a Rita Skeeter article about herself, the camera shows Rupert while she’s reading: “Hermione Granger, a plain but ambitious girl”, and without even raising his head from his plate, he does this little eyebrow-lift that just kills me. It’s so ingenious and hilarious and just so Ron-like. There’s also his brilliantly timed “Yes?” when professor Moody shouts: “Weesley!” in class. His dress-robes scene? A show-stopper! Or his: “Piss off”, to Harry. Poignant as well as absolutely surprising. I’ve been in theatres where people literally gasped at that scene, far more loudly than they did when poor Cedric got killed. I really don’t know what you guys are talking about. He nailed that performance. Again – it’s like we’ve seen two completely different movies. I really don’t get it.
Almost forgot: T_D_O, I loved everything you said and agree completely! :)
Ponette, don’t take this personally, I am going to explain to you why I didn’t like Rupert’s performance in GOF: mainly because he is pulling all sort of grimaces and wry faces all around. And what is worst, innecessarily. He made me cringe through the whole movie. There are some good moments, yes, but they didn’t compensate the embarrasement he made feel through most of the movie. Sorry but that wasn’t a performance. One can be funny without pulling faces. Most of them were so exagerated that I feel sorry for him. And Mike Newell should have been smacked for allowing that.
And I don’t want to continue. I don’t want to end hurting dear Kerrie (or any Rupert fans, really)specially now that we have ended our discussion in peace. I prefer to talk about his performance in OotP, at least he acted instead of playing the clown. I could write an essay about what annoys me of Rupert in GOF. I just don’t feel like getting involved in an argument. And I know I am not going to make you change your mind (which I have no interest at all) and you are not going to change mine. So enjoy his ‘brilliance’ in GOF. I am not going to spoil it for you.
Wow! I didn’t relaize HP was that big. Someone said it’s more cause HP is the one that’s still in the run nowadays out of the others, and I think they’re right. I don’t think if this was … say 6 months from now, I don’t think HP would have done “that” good.
And I agree that the public were voting for Harry as the main character, and for hermy as the main girl, I don’t think they were thinking about how really good or bad the actors were in acting, it’s just HP, and who are the most prominent characters in the films.
Personally, I’m not a fan of Rupert in real life, but I always thought he had the best and more natural talent, I’ve watched the first 4 films before reading the books, and he’s the one who always stood out as having most life in his performance, Dan’s have been first very wooden, and then jsut plain cold, I never really get whatever feelings he’s trying to convey, and, usually, when he tries too much to squeez out the feelings he’s supposed to offer, it’s quite laughable, and it’s not just me, usually everyone in theater are laughing with me, lol.
And I’m quite surprised that anyone is saying that Rupert gave his worst performance in GoF, I think his worst was in CoS personally, then PS/SS was second worst. I think his acting started to really develop ever since PoA, and ever since he’s been getting better with each film. So, GoF was the best to date for him, he gave a really good performance. With the comedy, he almost stopped the “mugging” things except in one or 2 scenes, and he managed to convey a lot of hilarity just uttering simple words like “where” or just looking embarrassed dancing with the professor. He also nailed it in the fights with Harry and then with hermy, all that bubbling anger, fear, inseurity boiling under his skin, you can see it all flowing from his eyes in the most natural way, like he was really feeling those things.
Sorry, if I went a bit in too much detail, I just found it weird that some people would find his GoF performance the worst, when actually, I learnt later, it was the most film that gave him very good reviews, even more than OotP (though I agree that he even did better in OotP). Maybe it’s because when I watched GoF, I saw him as just a character in a film, not in comparison to his book character (as I didn’t know about it back then), I only saw the film, and the characters in it as just a normal film, and tbh, Ron in GoF film was probably the most thing I liked besides the special effects, and it wasn’t my opinion alone, but also most of the theater (including my companions).
I’m not saying btw that Rupert should have won, I personally think The Johnny Depp should have won, I’d watch Jonny scratching his nose than any kid in HP giving their best ever performance, cause Johnny would have still been better at just scratching his nose, lol. I’ve never seen any actor get into a character the way he does with Jack Sparrow, the amount of details he gets into, the total loss of himself in the character, all the little details and mannerisms that he creates for the character, he’s quite a miracle that man, really! Nothing I’ve seen from Dan in any HP film (including OotP), and nothing I’ve seen from any kid in the HP films (including Rupert), could even come into comparison with what Johnny does with Jack Sparrow. He’s a walking acting miracle in that role, and the best that could be said about those kids, is that they show some promise.
As for Emma winning, well that’s another HUGE joke, someone said something about her eyebrows should have won, lol, and I quite agree. Now, if that was Imelda Staunton who was nominated and won for her fantastic performance in OotP, I would have agreed hands down, after all, I remember she was the one who got most critic reviewers to gush over her, even those who didn’t like the film, or even didn’t bother to comment about how Dan did, couldn’t help but gush over her.
Oh, well, I think I’ve talked a bit too much, just wanted to throw in my 2 cents, so that’s it for me. Hope I didn’t offend anyone :-)
Becca, thanks for expressing far more eloquently everything I tried to say in my previous post. :) Rupert is by far the most natural actor of the trio, and the almost impossible elasticity of his facial expressions only adds to his performance. He’s been toning it down in later movies, yes, but I believe that was one of the talents that brought him to the attention of the casting directors in the first place. He exudes an on-screen aura that is as warm as Daniel Radcliffe’s is, to use your perfectly chosen word, cold. With all due respect to Dan’s achievements, he could take a few pointers from “ginger” and then he might win even more awards, merited not solely on popularity but on acting skills as well. I’m not even going to start with Emma, who in my mind was a true discovery in the first 3 movies. Adorable, endearing, spunky and funny as hell, a great choice for Hermione. But she has completely changed as an “actress” as soon as she entered puberty and actually started “acting”. I love the girl, but sadly, I think her performance in OotP was the weakest one yet, and her winning that award was, like you said, a joke.
Oh, and I second everything you said about Johnny Depp. That man truly is the best character actor of his age, but I don’t think he needs any awards to prove that, he does so easily in every single movie he’s made. :) LOL Sorry for my double posts, I always post these things before I’ve actually said everything I wanted to say. blush
I don’t think Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and Emma Watson give a rat’s ass about what their fans or non-fans think of them in terms of appearance, behaviour, acting talents,real or fake friendship/relationship and popularity. Why would they care about winning or losing at an award show, when the HP franchise already made them winners: they are laughing all the way to the bank.