Fighting over? I’ve given up explaining to Rupert fans why Rupert gets overshadowed. For some reason, they just don’t see that. Rupert is all sunshine to them. He never wins any acting award but they all justify that with some cock and bull story of him being the sidekick and not the lead, etc. They gloriously ignore the fact that Emma is also sidekick and secondary. THey even have the guts to say Dan should take some “pointers from ginger” so he’ll win some awards. lol. Pointers from someone who never wins? What glorious delusion. Rupert wasted his money on some ice cream van, but they don’t see that as a a ridiculous extravagance -that’s cool. He drunk too much at the NMA after party but they happily are proud of him being the life of the party. lol. As for the NMA awards itself, all reports say it’s not boring. The winners certainly aren’t. lol. They’ve been the talk of tabloids since saturday. if the haters are shocked that Dan and Emma won, it’s nothing to the shock that those two felt. They themselves didn’t expect to win so give them some slack folks. I shudder to think what would have happened if Rupert won. eew. But of course, nobody expected that. Not even Rupertfans.
Just adding my two cents about GOF. I think it is the WORST of the HP films to date.
I don’t blame the actors. In my opinion, most of the blame belongs to Mike Newell. A few months after the film’s release, I read several stories about Newell’s “approach” to GOF. Seems he yelled and cursed a lot at the actors. On top of that, he apparently re-wrote the script as filming progressed. Doesn’t seem to me that either of these “methods” would be particularly productive – especially when dealing with very young actors.
My biggest GOF disappointment was with the treatment of Ron Weasley’s character. Poor Rupert seemed to spend the entire film portraying “surly”. I know Ron was upset with both Harry and Hermione at different points in the book, but this was ridiculous. I don’t blame Rupert. The script was just plain lousy. Newell tried to be director and screen writer at the same time. I think he failed miserably at both.
my monte, what a perceptive person you think you are. you are correct about rupert fans not expecting him to win, he doesnt’ have the radcliffe pr machine backing him, not to mention WB or his official web site. it’s is amazing how many fans grint does have,considereing how little effort is made to promote him. true, he does not do a very good job of promoting himself, eith. btw the only delusional ones are people like yourself,thinking that dan radcliffe won this strictly on his acting ability. if you would be honest with yourself, you would admit that this is a popularity contest. and yes, radcliffe is more popular. yay, happy now? evidentally this is very important to you.
Oaky I wanna ask all you upset Rupert fans out there something: IF Rupe is this “amazing, overshadowed, revelation..etc” actor…and according to many fans, the most popular of the trio…Why didn´t he win then? I mean he must have more fans than Dan to vote for him, judging by the number of comments who said he deserved it more..So why didn´t you vote for him all of you then?...Or could it be the fact that Rupe might be the most popular INSIDE the Potter franchise, whereas Dan has starting to get some recognation OUTSIDE the Potter franchise as well…And another funny thing, you also said that this award is about popularity and not so much about acting abilities, well you might be right: But either way, Rupert should have won big time shouldn´t he? Seing the fact that he is “The best actor of the trio” or “the most popular”...But he didn´t..Dan won the award to best actor, meaning that he must be the best actor/most popular.
oh spike, Karren, Ponotte and whatever name else you’re using (same writing style) you won’t quit trying to put someone down to make Rupert the best, what a shame of Rupert to have these kind of fans, fans that will discredit, attack, and insult an event only becaues his adorable celeb didn’t win, what a shame!! you try to be fair but you end up in the same hole, Rupert is 1000 better and Dan and Emma suck, this even suck because Rupert didn’t win, what kind of even is this when Emma and Dan won and Rupert DIDN’T..OMG the world is ending because fugly Rupert didn’t win an award and those few sore Rupert fans are making a big deal just because Dan and Emma has won the popular vote, LET THE PEOPLE SPEAK, LET THE PEOPLE TALK, THEY HAVE RULED THAT DAN AND EMMA ARE THE WINNERS …but in case you keep insisting in the same thing then just keep creating this story in your heads about the public voted for Harry and Hermione (hahaha), I think this way the pain won’t be that bad!! SORE LOSERS!!!!
Ooooooh! monty, Sonja & Voldy_M are other sore danny fan who can’t believe that it wasn’t their little danny boy winning, but only his harry, oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh, poor delusionals … tsk.. tsk
Get real preople, since when “heroine” (yeah, sorry I meant hermione) in the films is just a sidecick, yeah since we had a bunch of hypocrites like you in the fandom. Since when being the main character with the franchise name shouldn’t have more fans than any other male actors in the same film, yeah, exactly since we had a bunch of hypocrites like you in the fandom.
Swallow it up little ones, your kddies are not that brilliant, it’s the HP name that’s “that” brilliant, once that gets through your thick skulls, life would be much easier for everyone.
Kids!
Oh, how couldn’t I notice, monty, Sonja & Voldy_M are actually one person with all those names, who couldn’t even type some different styles of writing, and couldn’t even wait to post 3 posts right after each other. Tsk .. tsk .. and you call others sore? ;-)
Ok Rupert’s fans DIDN’T say he should win . They said he is THE BEST of trio . I’m a his fan but I voted for JD . Yeah … I think Rupert is good but JD and DC re many times better ! If Dan and Rupert re ONLY 2 people , who re nominated . Of course , I will vote for Rupert . Dan CAN’T act . He tried to portray Harry so hard . In OOTP , when he cried , my friends and I didn’t feel any emotion . Dan is nice , funny and cute … but Rupert is more talent . My boyfriend , who has never liked HP at all . He said “Rupert is the most natural and talent actor in that film” ... and I agree 1000000%
Whoa, Becka! I don’t believe I have read any post before which has highlighted the difference between the acting styles of Daniel and Rupert so well. I prefer Rupert as an actor because try as he might Daniel is as cold as ice as Harry, but perhaps that is not entirely Daniel’s fault. Harry is an aloof and cautious,and distant character who was, for the larger part of his life unloved and unwanted, besides he is constantly being hounded by Voldemort. He is slow and gradual at learning to trust or love. Before meeting his (best) friends and mentors at Hogwarts Harry had no reason to trust or love,and by “being famous Harry Potter” makes him doubt people’s sincerity towards him.Portraying a cold character is difficult because your the emotional range and behaviour is more limited,and the audience will not warm to you. Daniel on the other hand seems like an a friendly and approachable person,so it seems that he has little in common with Harry. Rupert’s task is by far easier: Ron and the whole Weasley family(with the exception of Percy) just exudes warmth and friendliness,you can’t help but want to sit at the table in The Burrow and chat to them as you would to friends.That changed however in Cos and GOF where we saw that there was a cold and suspicious side to Ron and Rupert portrayed that transition very well. I think it was David Thewlis who said he was the most natural actor of the Trio,and IMHO that is true. To me he does not play Ron he is Ron and he becomes Ron seemingly effortlessly.That is what David Thewlis probably meant by a natural actor. Can’t put it better than that…
“sigh” Monty, Sonya and Vody_M, do you actually think that winning an award is the only proof of talent? I’d have to refer you to a perfect example of quite the opposite: the most brilliant young British actress of our times never won an Oscar, even though she was nominated for it not one but five times. I’ll let you ponder on that one a while longer. And I wasn’t talking about NMA in the last few posts of mine but of Rupert’s acting style which appeals to me much more than Dan’s. That’s all. And let’s be real, neither of those styles of course can measure up to the other two nominees in the best male category, and that’s the “joke” part most of us here have been talking about. Riley, you’ve made a really good point by mentioning how Dan and Rupert’s non-HP movies didn’t draw much of a crowd. I think December Boys has already stopped showing even in those few selected cinemas. It’s not that I personally take the HP leads too seriously, it’s more the fact that I’ve kind of watched them grow up and I guess I have a soft spot for each of them. They’re still kids, really nice kids for that matter (quite a rarity these days) trying to branch out. And when it comes to Rupert bashing, or bashing of any HP-actor for that matter (just watch me when Bonnie haters start pouring in, lol!), I tend to get rather protective because I honestly think it’s uncalled for.
and the venom from the jealous Rupert fans is once again at large….
Oh and one more thing Me, Monty and Voldy_M are NOT the same person..
And finally..It seems that NO ONE had actually answered my “little” question, about why Rupert didn´t win if he´s the best/most popular actor
Thank you protegomuggletum (and Ponette), but I’ll just point out to you that in the beginning of my post, I said that I’m not a fan of Rueprt in real life, and by that of course I mean in interviews and stuff.
Ok, maybe some of his fans wouldn’t like this, but the shock I got when I first watched my first interview for him, I’m sorry to say, I almost hated him. It’s like watching someone flowing with life, and then suddenly watching him dead! Sorry again to his fans, I know that in certain interviews he can be really cool (like that recent once he, Dan & Emma did together, they were all cute in it btw), but his usual, is that he just seems dead! It’s like someone has turned off all the lights that were working with all sorts of emotions in his eyes while he’s Ron on the big screen. Ever since, I usually try to avoid his interviews, cause, involuntary, I just start having negative feelings towards him that could affect later my views of him while watching him in a film.
Sorry again to his fans, but I’d just like to say, that I dunno how this happens, what controls it, maybe he has some sort of depression in real life, and he doesn’t get loose unless he’s hiding behind another character, I’ve heard about actors like that, but, the piont is, I don’t think that Rupert acts himself there, cause if he were, I’d have seen the same dead version I saw in his interviews, and that’s not the case, and sorry to his fans again, it’s just how I feel.
Regarding Dan, and Harry being cold, I think you have a point, but I’m sorry too, untill this moment, I see an actor acting coldly, not a cold character. I’m not sure if that makes sense, and I’m sorry to his fans too, but this’s also how I feel. Also, this could be kinda abvious to the book readers, but normal moviegoers who do not have as much of background info about the characters, usually can not see it, and only see that the actor is cold. Some even said it’s the usual English coldness, that’s why Rupert usually stands out, cause he doesn’t have that English coldness (inside the films themselves, cause, unfortunately, outside the films, he has it with abundance!)
Sorry again if I offended anyone, I was just trying to express how I, and most people that I know, see things.
Becka, can I ask you a question; Why do you keep apologising to Rupert fans for saying what you´re thinking/feeling about him…I don´t see Rupe fans apoligising for saying what they´re thinking about Dan. Just say what you´re feeling, and YES something things comes back to you and hard. But THAT´s not stopping me..and others for posting their opinions..
That critic would have been more appalled had Rupert won. Personally, I think that the idea that Rupert even got in on the final four against the type of roles DC, Dan, and JD had was laughable. He really should have been in a different category. Emma’s role wasn’t so different from Judy Dench’s boss role in Bond, and Pirates 3 was all about Johnny Depp, with Keira and Orlando’s role being about furniture for the most part. That was pretty much Rupert’s role too, his lines (and emma’s)were forgettable, to my mind. The problem is, while his fans are watching him, the rest of us aren’t. I can barely remember what scenes he had as they weren’t actually important or standout, apologies to Ponette et al. He was barely mentioned by many of the critics as he was in the background only. Dan won a lot of acclaim for his work in this movie, and yes, while it was a popularity contest, the fact remains he won. Not just for being HP, but for doing it WELL. There have always been popularity contests in the past and they’ve been won by Lord of the Rings and the Pirates movies etc. This year, against all these huge blockbusters, HP and Dan won. This was only the first year, so perhaps next year they can have the costar contest. Incidentally, Brad Pitt won the best actor award for his western movie at the Cannes festival where his role was considered the costar role-pretty much shocking everyone. But at least his role was substantial.
As for the Radcliffe “PR machine”? Has nothing to do with the reporters wanting to film, speak and quote Dan. It’s just Dan. It is the reporters and editors who decide who to put on their screens and pages. Not Dan or his handlers. It is not the WB either. They are happy to see any fans as that means more viewers.
Also, December Boys IS still playing, and has expanded to 13 other cities. Like most indies, it plays for about a week and then it moves on. Pretty much like Driving Lessons, hello. Copies of the film are expensive and thus they have limited numbers of prints.
Actually Emma and Dan winning the awards is a joke. TVScoop has a review of the show and said since Dan and Emma won the show lost all chance at being taken seriously. They thnk that nobody over the age of 15 must have voted. have to agree with them. I think the world is laughing at Dan and Emma and not in good way. That thought Dan or Rupert should won the most wooden actor in a cloak. No offense but I don’t think people take Dan or Rupert as seriously as you guys do. Just look how liitle their respective non-HP made. 60 million people in the UK and only a very few rabid fans showed up to either one of them.
http://www.tvscoop.tv/2007/10/tv_review_the_n.html