Robert Pattinson On “Twilight” and “Potter” Comparisons in New Interview

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Jul 16, 2008

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Actor Robert Pattinson, who we first saw as Cedric Diggory in “Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire,” has given a new interview to MTV News for his upcoming film “Twilight,” during which he speaks of the common comparison to the Harry Potter books and films. In the interview, Mr. Pattinson, who plays the character of Edward Cullen in the film adaptation of the “Twilight” book, relates his view that the style of the two books are “completely different.” He then goes on to speak at some length about the comparison and what he feels makes the “Harry Potter” and “Twilight” series different. Quoteage:

“Twilight” is a first-person narrative. It’s very obsessive, and it’s a much more personal book, I think, than “Harry Potter” is, in a lot of different ways. There are only two characters pretty much in the trilogy. Well, I guess three, but essentially two. It’s just about a love story rather than a massive adventure and an entire world. It’s set as much as possible in the real world, so it’s different.

There are obviously a lot of comparisons [to “Potter”], but really the only one is that it is a fantasy series. The way Stephenie Meyer writes, so much more of it is based in the real world than the fantasy world. It’s not like there are goblins or something. The way a vampire gets made is you just get bitten by someone. I mean, it’s just like a disease. They’re not separate entities to the rest of the world. They are much more human. You’re just a human, you get bitten by another human who’s been turned into this thing, and you just have to live forever afterwards. And you have these powers, you have super-strength and really amazing agility, but the pros for being a vampire don’t really outweigh the cons at all. … You can never reveal that you’re a vampire, so you’re just trapped in this kind of purgatory all the time.

Mr. Pattinson then goes on to talk of his role in more detail, saying his character “is [more substantial] than the character I played in “Harry Potter” [Cedric Diggory], mainly because the entire thing is based on Edward’s character and who he is. He is very tortured and conflicted, which is very different from what I played in “Harry Potter.” The interview wraps up with the actor describing his trouble keeping an American accent, his thoughts on being the dazzling character of Edward Cullen, and his feet.

Additionally, Robert Pattinson graced the cover of this week’s issue of Entertainment Weekly along with his “Twilight” co-star, Kristin Stewart (Bella Swan). Two additional photos featuring Mr. Pattinson from inside the issue, can be viewed in our Image Galleries.





179 Responses to Robert Pattinson On “Twilight” and “Potter” Comparisons in New Interview

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I like Robert Pattinson, and my daughter is bouncing off the walls waiting for this Twilight movie, but I am not that excited about it. I have read all the books and I they just don’t appeal to me. I will read the fourth one just to finish out the series (if I can pry the book out of my daughter’s hands) but that will be that. Harry Potter on the other hand… I’m on my 9th read through the series and no plans to ever stop reading them or watching the movies (despite all the various things we all complain about what was left out/changed/etc.) :)

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He doesn’t look like Edward to me. I think it is great that he seems to enjoy this new role.

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He put it so wonderfully! The comparisons have been driving me mad to the point where I started to like Twilight less because of the people who say Potter’s crap in comparison.

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I feel kind of sorry for Rob. Every time I’ve seen him do an interview about Twilight, he has this very uncomfortable, oh-god-how-did-I-get-myself-into-this-mess look on his face. But maybe that’s just me. (shrug)

That Entertainment Weekly cover is… interesting. Oh, who am I kidding, it’s hilariously bad. I think even the Harlequin Romance Novel people would have been too ashamed to put that on one of their bookcovers. Poor Rob. As someone infamously said over at Oh No They Didn’t, he really does look like a hairy powdered donut.

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He put it so wonderfully! The comparisons have been driving me mad to the point where I started to like Twilight less because of the people who say Potter’s crap in comparison.

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I was wondering when leaky was going to mention the EW cover. I sent it to them Thursday night. I wonder if they had already gotten the mag and so they did not credit anyone. Haven’t read this series yet but I plan to. I was kind of annoyed by the slightly anti-Potter (IMO so don’t slam me Twilight fans, no disrespect intended) slant of the EW article, it was interesting though. I was actually surprised when the EW article mentioned how apparently the Twilight fandom somewhat had to warm up to the idea of Robert as Edward. Since I have not read these books yet I am in no position to judge whether he is completely right for the character or not, but I will say this, he is one smokin’ Vampire! Wooo!

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i love twilight (of course, never as much as harry) but i love the comparison! i agree with amanda i just want to slap people who say the potter series arent even in the same league as twilight. they are very different series!

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@ tinagin:

I’ve read the Twilight series, and trust me, Robert Pattinson is fine for the role. He’s very good-looking, and that’s all that Edward needs to be. Edward has no personality (except occasionally being a creepy-ass stalker, although the reader is obviously supposed to think it’s OMG SO ROMANTIC that he snuck into a girl’s room every night without her knowledge and watched her sleep). Being beautiful and sparkly is his defining character trait. All that’s really required of the actor who plays Edward is to be handsome. And Robert fills that bill adequately.

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Look out everyone, I’m about to share my thoughts on yaoi.

I read the books after the last time Leaky posted about them (and the comments exploded between the Leaky-ites and the Twilighters who’d found the post and come over to defend their books). While I don’t think Twilight is quite as inherently awful as some have claimed, I do think it’s pretty bad. The writing is of poor quality, the purple prose is frequently eyeroll-worthy, most of the characters are flat and uninteresting, and the first book has no plot until about two-thirds through when BAM, it’s suddenly pastede on yay.

But all of that pales in comparison to the very bad message the books send to girls. (Be warned: I’m about to get preachy here.) Bella has no life outside of Edward. She almost can’t even function when she’s not with him. When he leaves her, she thinks her life is over, and Stephenie Meyer does nothing to contradict this. In fact, she pretty much allows the reader to believe that Bella’s life really isn’t worth living without Edward. Bella doesn’t really have any friends outside of the Cullens, with the exception of Jacob, and she’s ultimately willing to cut even him out of her life so she can be with Edward. She’s willing to give up everything, her family, her friends, college, her future, even her mortal life, all for Edward. Basically, the books reinforce the horribly antiquated idea that a girl’s life should revolve around her boyfriend, and that she shouldn’t be able to function without her shmoopykins by her side.

It disturbs me that so many girls are reading these books and holding up Edward/Bella as the ideal romance, it really does.

Okay, I’m done. Thanks for indulging me, everyone.

[/thoughts on yaoi]

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Good, he understands the comparisons are very VERY limited.

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The difference between the Harry Potter series and the Twilight series can be summed up quite simply:

The Harry Potter books are good. The Twilight books are not.

The end.

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I love both series. I don’t see why the two fandoms have to be so mean to each other =(.

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Leaky posted my comment 3 times for some reason 0_0. Sorry.

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Here we go again – having to be lectured about Twilight on this Harry Potter site.

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Wow, lotta Twilight haters?? Um if you dont like it, then whyd you click on the article? And its FICTION Saria, not the Bible, theres no message were supposed to follow, just a love story to enjoy. Girls love it for the romance and excitment. Dont be so judgmental, its just a BOOK.

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Jen: If it’s just a BOOK, then you shouldn’t have your knickers in a twist over the fact that I don’t like it. So maybe you’re the one who shouldn’t be so judgmental? People are allowed to dislike books that you personally enjoy. Shocking, but true!

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Hmm. uh as far as I can see my “knickers” are not in a twist. I dont care who likes or dislikes the books at all. I think your the one overreacting. A fictional love story is not going to brainwash girls into revolving their lives around a boyfriend. Thing is, why click on an article and make an unnecesary comment when you dont even like the books? I’m sure there are chat rooms and forums for twilight haters somewhere, why not go there? This is a FANsite.

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The series is pretty obsessive (not as in, I’m obsessed with it, obsessive lol), and I really do not like the fact that Bella’s life revolves around Edward (I feel like I’m the only person in the fandom who didn’t cry during New Moon, I won’t give away what happens), but the series in itself is pretty great, I think. Stephenie is a good storyteller and when she doesn’t make me roll my eyes with a cheesy line, she definitely makes me feel some strong emotions. And Robert Pattinson is hot! (and Jacob rules)

PS. The EW cover fails hard. Change it to the picture of Edward and Bella in the rain, pretty please. I’m gonna go watch GOF and have my fangirl moment of the week now.

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This is funny because his whole comparison sounds like jibberish to me.

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Jen, people have the right to criticize a book as much as you have the right to love it. There are numerous professional critics out there for the same purpose. If you love it, that’s your deal. But if someone doesn’t like it, I don’t think anyone has the right to tell them they shouldn’t voice their opinion. They just want to express their view; it’s as simple as that.

Anyway, back to the article. I really don’t see Twilight more personal than HP. I never felt too invested in the characters mainly because they’re 2-D characters. They don’t have much depth, in my opinion. And, furthermore, I would say that the friendship between the trio is very emphasized in the books. Just because it isn’t a romance doesn’t make friendship any less. Quite frankly, I find friendship just as beautiful. :)

I have another comment to make. He said that Twilight is set more in the real world whereas HP is focused around a fantasy world. I agree with that, Twilight is set in the real world. However, I identify HP more with the real world than Twilight. HP, despite being set in a fantasy world, encompasses the same exact problems we face in real life. In our world there are things like abuse, unrequited love, genocides, prejudice, corruption of government, wars, and censorship. While there is love in Twilight, it doesn’t cover some of the more serious issues that HP does.

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I’m glad that Robert is denying the similarity. I love Twilight, but it doesn’t hold a candle to Harry Potter. They really aren’t similar except that they both deal with fantasy.

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I LOOVE Harry Potter and will continue to do so for my entire life! However, I have also read and become quite fond of the Twilight books. Why can’t the fans coexist peacefully? Am I supposed to have some horrid inner conflict because I love them both, simply for a enjoyable story that they each are?!? Come on guys, there are much better things to get angry about…genocide, global warming, strip mining, the price of gas…

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It bothers me (greatly) when people say Twilight is better than Harry Potter (kind of off subject if we’re looking at the article but also not off-subject if we’re looking at the comments. :)).

And I pretty much hate Twilight. Makani has a nice little ‘review’ of it over here on her livejournal: http://buttfacemakani.livejournal.com/281619.html#cutid1 .. that I totally agree with wholeheartedly. :]

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It’s going to be rather amusing, 10 years from now, when all the teenagers girls who love Twilight have outgrown the phase where they think the story is ever so romantic and that fangirling Edward and/or Jacob is cool, and they start becoming really embarrassed about all the times they defended these books and tried to claim that they’re great literature.

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I am so sick of the comparasons. Twilight and Harry Potter are nothing a like. They are entirely different series, by entirely different people, about entirely different things. The only thing they really have in common is their success.

I’m a huge fan of both series but I’ve never even tried to compare them. One is about a boy wizard the other about a girl falling in love with a vampire.

NOT THE SAME THING!!!

That being said, Twilight is still no where near as popular as Harry Potter. For one, I know people who have never heard of Twilight.

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i really do think Bella sets a bad example for girls, and while Stephanie Meyer might have good initial IDEAS for stories, her problem is that she never says in a sentence what CAN be said in a paragraph. however, while there’s a lot of book, there’s hardly anything in the characters. they seem to slip in and out of character throughout the books, which is bad considering Meyer INVENTED the characters. as for me, i think she got a little lost after Twilight and just kind of chugged out 2 (almost 3) more books to please the fans. if you want a good Stephanie Meyer book check out The Host. its still pretty wordy at parts, but the story line and the characters are better.

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i love both series.. but man ppl be trippin lol!

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I’ve never read Twilight, but I think I might try it just so that I can actually have a good opinion on this comparison thing.

Anyway, I personally think that Twilight will never beat Harry Potter or come up to HP’s level. It’s just … Harry is a legend! And you can’t beat that. It’s the biggest movie franchise ever, and if Twilight thinks it can beat that, then whatever. Have a good try….

Btw, Robert is WHOO. *fans self.

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Oh yeah, the reason I’m also siding with Harrry Potter on this one (wait, I`ll always side with HP!) is because in an interview I watched on Twilight, the narrator said “wimpy wizards” when they were comparing it to HP. That got me SO ticked & I officially did not like Twilight. Lol. ;) But I mean, I don’t HATE it, I just disliked it at that time… :D

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I just read all three Twilight books this weeked. I enjoyed them, but I really don’t think you can compare them to HP. It’s like compairing apples and bicycles. They are just completely different.

HP is an outstanding, well-woven epic. It’s about Harry, but it’s also about Ron and Hermione, and Hogwarts, and the Wizarding World, and bravery and courage and choosing what it right instead of what it easy. The books are complex and thorough.

Twilight is extremely entertaining. The plot, I find, is mostly predictable. The character development is a little weak, but I enjoyed the drama, and the dream-like creature that is Edward. It’s not supposed to be a sprawling epic – the planning isn’t there. But it’s certainly interesting. Edward in particular is interesting to me, because he seems to have to push so much away from the surface. Bella mostly annoys me with her whining and falling down all of the time. But at the end of the day, it’s a very solid “forbidden romance” story.

Also, I agree, Twilight isn’t as popular as HP. For instance, I haven’t found a guy yet who has read it, though I admit I haven’t been scouring the universe. Most people I’ve mentioned it to stare at me blankly. HP, on the other hand, is better known that and most (all?) world leaders. I think HP is truly a literary classic, and Twilight is nice entertainment (and, let’s be honest, it’s steamy. That’s why I’m reading it. Because it’s steamy, and the thought of hot Edward is great.). Comparing the two is nuts, and people getting defensive about it have too much time on their hands.

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YAY…!!! my two favorite things TWILIGHT and HARRY POTTER!!! i hate when people is or one fan or the other… i love bouth, they are completly diferents in every single way!!! thank you leaky for posting this!!!

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Oh, Lord… I see there’s been some major drama going on about this whole Twilight/HP comparison deal. What Ash said about lots of people not even ever hearing of Twilight is absolutely true though. I actually had never heard of the Twilight series until around March of this year (believe it of not). However, if you go up to anyone at all in the street, almost anywhere in the world and ask someone if they’ve heard of Harry Potter, I would probably bet my life that they would say “yes”. Twilight and HP are not even in the same league, in my opinion.

I’ve read all 3 of the Twilight books now, and I must admit, I’ve got a sort of love/hate relationship going on with them. Well, not really love; I suppose it’s more of a somewhat-enjoy-when-I’m-bored-and-depending-on-what’s-happening-in-the-story-at-the-time/hate relationship. When I was reading Eclipse, I stopped reading it for about 2 weeks because I got so angry at it. Normally I don’t get angry with books, but I just genuinely cannot STAND the characters. Isabel is completely right about the whole “obsessive” pattern to the books with Bella not being able to function at all without Edward (who does have no personality). Whenever he comes into the story, I always want him to just go away! They are entertaining though. Ugh, I have much more to say, but I’m tired of typing and I must go to sleep.

Ok, well I’m finished with my rant… somewhat. Oh my, that cover is just… dreadful. Yes Sylvie, definitely a hairy powdered doughnut. Oh, I just want to cry. Robert is always so good-looking and here he’s just…. not. :(

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Jen, with one ‘n’... You are correct this is a FANsite. A FANsite for Harry Potter not for Twilight. So please don’t get hostile over your appreciation of a book or a movie that doesn’t exist in the Harry Potter world. The only reason the article is on this site is that it is about Robert Pattinson aka Cedric Diggory. Most of us came to this site to get news on Harry Potter. Therefore we click on all articles and read all the articles that appear here at Leaky. We are, most of us, long time fans of HP and TLC and quite frankly if Robert had not played Cedric we would probably never read this article about Twilight.

On the lighter side, I think that comparing any work of art to another work of art is wrong and can not be judged in that manner. Art is subjective. It is like sushi, you have to approach each new piece with a cleansed palette. That is what the ginger is on the plate for. Cleanse your palette. Read what you enjoy but don’t censor comments or argue critically comments that you don’t agree with… Some people are just more subjective than others.

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Here, let me tell you the difference:

Twilight is stupid, Harry Potter isn’t. Stephenie Meyer writes like a 12 year old, JKR writes like a novelist. The end.

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i’m kinda annoyed at how people think twilight is the next harry potter. i dont think there will ever be a book like harry potter. i thunk it’s just fans trying to fill the hole the end of the series left and non-hp fans trying to find their own, newless nerdy version of it. that sounds a lot meaner than i intend, but it’s just how i ifeel.

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I don’t understand the hype with Twilight’s Bella and Edward characters. It’s the way the fangirls glee about it. I don’t know, call me old fashion, but I’ll stick with Buffy and Angel if I want to see a real story about a girl falling for an isolated vampire. In fact, the Buffy series should be in relation to Twilight than Harry Potter. I don’t see how people compare these vampire novels to Harry Potter.

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Its funny how whenever Leaky posts an article anything to do with Twilight, it causes an uproar.

Personally, I read the series and enjoyed it. It was easy to get into and kept me entertained, and I don’t think Stephenie is a horrible writer at all. However, this comparison with Harry Potter is driving me crazy; its complete rubbish! Harry Potter is on a way different level (and a much higher one, if I might add) than Twilight. The only way they’re alike, as Robert stated is that they are fantasy series. Big deal!

I’m glad he spoke up about the comparison but I have to disagree a bit on certain statements. I don’t think the Twilight books are more personal at all even though they’re written in first-person. I’ve never felt so close to characters as I have in Harry Potter. There are just so many aspects and differences to each of their personalities, it makes them so unique and REAL. And even though I like Twilight, I have to agree that the characters are very two dementional and nothing particularly special. (In fact, my least favorite is the main character Bella; don’t get me started…)

But I’m still excited to see the movie and I think Robert was a great choice for Edward. Who wouldn’t want to stare at his face for 2 hours on the big screen? ;D

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My friends keep on telling me that twilight bet harry potter and blah blah blah. Harry potter is way better!!!!!! And twilight only bet it ONCE! They just like coz supposed to be all ‘romantic’ and everything. But come on, Harry potter is a whole life story+ romance!!! And believe me, they just lyk it coz of edward! ARGHH. LONG LIVE HARRY POTTER!!! And J.K Rowling is a million time better than stephanie meyer!

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I fail to see the attrraction to this movie. The book was alright but the trailer and all subsequent material released makes it look like a dreadful film, my apologies to any fangilrs whom I offend. They acting looks stilted, Patterson looks to have about as much charisma as a plank coated in too much white makeup. Everything about it feels so stilted.

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I don’t really think Twilight teaches a lesson to the readers, does it? I’ve never read the series and only recently heard about it. I’m planning on reading sometime this week. All I know about twilight is that it’s a love story. Harry Potter, on the other hand, actually has a meaningfull lesson in it to learn from. I don’t think you can ever compare HP with any other book. HP is the best! A few girls in my class just recently heard about it and some read it and started to love it. I think they only liked it coz of the whole romance thing. I think I might like it when I read it too, coz I’m a girl, but I would not like it more than HP. HP is and remains to be my favourite book ever!

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I’ve read all of the Twilight books. At first I was dubious but now, I have to say, I am really looking forward to the fourth one. But that doesn’t mean I like HP less, I really don’t. The two books couldn’t be more different. Stephenie Meyer is an entertaining writer but, to be honest, her plot is weak, as well as her character development. JkR style is just so different. But I think what really is highlighted, if you were comparing the two, is her plot. She just creates the most amazing plots without sacrifising her characters or her sense of humour. There is no comedy whatsoever in the twilight series. Perhaps this is due to the first person narrative of Bella? She is the most serious teenager alive!

That being said it is obvious that Twilight appeals to a great many people, Stephenie Meyer is a multi millionaire! So, all those people who say it is rubbish without ever giving it a chance, don’t be so judgmental. It is not a great work of literature by any means but it is entertaing. And, isn’t that what books are all about?

And the fandom, wow! They are very obsessive! Poor Robert….

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I also think that the HP films will be loads better than the Twilight films.

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That was supposed to be Entertaining…I can’t spell today, sorry!

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I don’t like to compare books, music, movies, or televisions shows unless they are in some way similar, which Twlight and HP are not. And the only reason that Leaky is has put this article up is because an actor has been in movies for both of these book series so I don’t understand why this this comment board has turned has turned into rants and arguments about everyone’s opinions on the books. I also want to point out that the message in both books is love which I think everyone has forgotten (because of how you people are acting).

I want to tell anyone that leaves any comments about my post that I won’t read it because I don’t want to come back here because of how hateful past comments have been and I don’t want to waste any more of my time reading any more.

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backs away from the building fight between Twilight and Harry Potter fans

Its humorous though I will admit, I like them both. _

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I am going to start “Anti-Twilight Potter Fans- Potter fans who hate Twilight!” club, as I fit in with what a lot of people are posting. I, too, hate Twilight, and I am glad that other people share my opinion. LONG LIVE HARRY POTTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Maybe it’s just me but I’ve seen so many publicity photos for Twilight and they all make me think the same thing: whoever did the makeup focused way too much on making Edward a scary vampire and far too little on the ethereal beauty he is supposed to epitomize. Robert Pattinson is a beautiful looking man and when he was cast I thought it was perfect casting. Quite frankly, I think the way they made him up makes him look very unattractive which is NOT how Edward should appear.

By the way Isabel, I can’t stand Bella. I think she is insipid and selfish and a poor example of womanhood. Every time Edward refers to her as being “brave” I cringe as she is more of a coward than I am comfortable with in a heroine. I like the books very much because Stephanie Meyer is a wonderful storyteller. I care a great deal for most of the other characters but I keep thinking how I’d like the books even more if Bella moved far, far away. But that’s just my opinion. :)

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There is no similiarity between these two books, and even though I love HP, I still like the Twilight series. Stephhenie Meyers is an awesome writer who wrote a love story about vampires, while JKR offered us a magical world with wizards, witches and other creatures. There are a lot of HP fans who have now started to like the Twilight series now too and I don’t see anything wrong in that.

Harry Potter will always be my favourite book, simply because it reminds me of my childhood, this wizarding world I really love and the big fandom practically in every continent of he world. And believe me the Twilight series is majorly popular in America. There are places in Europe which still do not know about it….

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i HATE all these harry potter comparisons. It really pisses me off. i love twilight, but this sort of thing really puts me off it. Harry potter and twilight should never be compared.

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Lock the comments now Leaky. It’s just going to get worse.

I like Robert Pattison. I think he’s incredibly charming and funny. Part of me wonders how he really feels about this whole thing.

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correction it is a HARRY POTTER fansite. we can hate twilight as much as we want.

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I think the interview (at least the part on this site) was interesting. As a split Hp/Twilight fan (as in I like both equally), I love seeing the comparisons.

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OK, sorry, but he said that Twilight is more real? That it is meatier than Harry Potter? Twilight is about as real as a crossover between Buffy and your run of the mill romantic novel. As for the meatier…I have not an idea of what he possibly could have meant with that.

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As a fervent reader of both, (my teenage niece turned me on to the Twilight series) I totally agree with Pattinson’s comparison. But for people to say the the Twilight series is better is utterly absurd. The Twilight series is simply a romance series (a very good one) but still only a romance and deals with themes related to this genre. Harry Potter, on the other hand, deals with themes and struggles on a much deeper level.

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I wish interviews would stop bringing up the Harry Potter comparisons. it clearly makes Robert uncomfortable, because he has to find redeeming qualities for “Twilight”, whereas HP is an established thing. But I did LOL at the one interview where he’s asked if people (girls) like Twilight so much because it is a good story, to which he responds: ”. . . . well, it’s different.”

I don’t know, I read both series, but the only one I’m remotely serious about is Harry Potter. Twilight is good for laughs.

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I found Twilight a teen romance. I think there is nothing wrong with that but it’s a book about the emotions that only teens deal with. I know everybody loves but not like a teenager. It’s everything or nothing one second at a time. Life’s too short and forever at the same. I think the books and perhaps the movie may endure but as new teens come and the old ones move on as they become adults and find real life. Harry Potter’s 1st two books are childrens books but they have a “magic” that lends itself to parents sharing the story with their children and then as the books grow in number they become truly for all ages. Twilight and HP are apples to oranges-both fruit but different in many many important ways.

Comparing Twilight to Buffy&Angel is a better comparison but um no…..

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PLEASE tell me that the Harry Potter fandom hasn’t joined ranks with the book snobs. You know, I was on this LJ Community the other day that centered around literary tattoos, and people were getting bashed for posting their Harry Potter tattoos. The other members came out in droves and spoke about how Harry Potter isn’t literature, or how it could never compare to the classics, or how its plot and characters are asinine. Others had to come defend Harry Potter, and the roles seemed interchanged on here. To see Harry Potter fans treat Twilight fans like they’re second class citizens isn’t very nice. It feeds into this whole facade that you can’t love a book unless it’s generally seen as a classic or is very popular with scholars. If you love a book, be proud of it. If you don’t love a book, then concentrate on the ones you do love.

And can we please stop this battling business? What if you loved both series the same? It’s a shame that a fan of both series like myself would be treated like a bit of a traitor in both fandoms, just because I like two things! Some of the comments on here are just unnecessary and mean. Please don’t be hateful. I bet J.K. Rowling and Stephenie Meyer would get along very well as they both seem like sweet, genuine people. Let’s just be supportive of two successful, talented female authors!

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Thank you Martha. I am right there with you as a fan of both series. We all have different tastes and interests and that should be respected. Twilight for me is a love story, one that seems to have touched alot of readers. Personally, reading the Twilight series has helped me to believe that true love does exist, (ok it happens to be with a vamp and a human but still) as I was beginning to lose faith in it due to personal experiences….

I could write volumes on why I love HP, but I will spare everyone!

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I really don’t think it’s fair to judge whether or not you will read a book based on what some “journalist” (who is no doubt TRYING to stoke fires) says about the comparison between Harry Potter and Twilight. If the idea of an easy read about the romance between a girl and a vampire sounds like something you might enjoy, read it and judge for yourself. If romance is not your thing, don’t..

I really appreciate what Rob had to say about the comparisons. He’s in a very unique position in that he is involved with both film adaptations, so his opinion about the similarities or lack thereof is coming from a more informed position than that of the idiots who seem to be doing the interviews and news stories.

I think a lot of the bad-blood (pardon the pun) between the fandoms has been aggravated by the way the entertainment press has handled it. They seem to deliberately try to stir the pot whenever they can.

I, personally, have enjoyed the Twilight series. It’s a good, escapist type of story. I don’t think it’s fair at all to imply that if someone enjoys Twilight, their love for Harry must be somehow diminished in comparison to those HP fans who don’t like Twilight – and vice versa. I expected the infantile responses from the legion of tweenies who think that nothing existed before Twilight (and whose favorite band/boy/clothing article/etc. change with the seasons), but I have to admit, I’ve been pretty disappointed in certain factions of the HP fandom who seem to be behaving in exactly the same way. Maybe it was naive of me, but I thought we Harry Potter fans were above that.

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The Entertainment Weekly article is very poorly written. It really exaggerates this series as the next Harry Potter. Come On are they that stupid? I realize that the Twilight books are getting popular but- look at Harry Potter and what it has become really- 5 movies that have grossed almost 4.5 billion dollars, a theme park, wizard bands, clubs, even the books have been circulated into some schools studies and thats not even the end of it. Im sure we all know that the Bella in my name stands for Bellatrix Lestrange. Not Bella Swan. Kind of makes me want to change my screen name to BellatrixSnape so if you see that – you know its me. Thinking about it though. Like I said Im not being a poor sport- I purchased the Twilight book just to see what the buzz was about but didnt get real far- cause like Robert says there is like one person talking, and it moves at a much much slower pace than the Harry Potter books- there is hardly no action in it either- compared to HP that is. So yes I wish they would stop they comparisons its very annoying.

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Kari your right we should be above that – but if you read that article( I recieve the magazine weekly) some of what the tween girls had to say was not very nice about us- especially about Jo- nothing specific no one used her name but along the lines of what you said, they think this is like the best thing since the Jonas Brothers or something. This one Girl made it sound as if Jo cant write worth crap- ” I am really picky when it comes to authors, I dont even like Harry Potter, are we going to be complete after Breaking Dawn?” was what one 12 yr old or tween girl said. But like I said it was a poorly written article. The only thing good about it was the picture on the front- very sexy. But then again this is probably the media and some stupid conspiracy to get things stirred up- as people have mentioned. Excuse my grammer mistake on my former post.

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BellaSnape- you don’t have to change your name, it’s pretty obvious you mean Bellatrix. If you were BellaHarry, on the other hand, then you might have a problem ;)

Martha- Well said. I, too, like both series, just in different ways. And for those who say that Twilight teaches girls to revolve their entire lies around their boyfriends, I can see how you would get that interpretation, but not everyone else does. I see it as a love story in which both characters are equally willing to give up everything for the other, not just the female character.

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Oh dear….another Twilight/HP argument.

I love both series. I do love Harry Potter more because it has been in my life longer. But Twilight is in second place. I think both series are written amazingly and the emotions are portrayed perfectly.

I don’t see why people have to argue. As i said once: “You like what you like, I like what I like, and lets share what we both like together.”

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I have read the Twilight books and I do enjoy them. However, I am worried the film will not portray the books correctly. On the comparison of the two series, Harry Potter is WAY more imagnative and creative. Twilight is solely a love story and I agree with Robert’s comparison.

On the EW cover…...HORRIBLE!! You guys should have read the comments on PerezHilton. The outrage of the fans!!! Terrible cover, the stylist/artist needs to be FIRED!!

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Wow, that EW cover is legendarily bad and is going to turn lots of people off to Twilight. Pattinson’s makeup is so overdone that he looks like a “ghoul” from the local haunted house on Halloween, and the overall character of the photo is about as convincing as a middle-school play. This was done by professionals? Ah well, it’s actually an improvement for Pattinson. In most of the Twilight photos, they make him look like a chick.

I am not commenting on the quality of Twilight, just the photo itself. If the HP movies churned out a photo as bad as this one, I would give up on them.

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I read the article. It’s actually sitting on my coffee table at the moment. The things they quoted the tweenies saying irritated me to no end. However, I teach this age group of kids, and girls of this age can be right horrid little things. They are wired to think that the best way to show ultimate devotion (to anything) is to profess abject hatred for whatever they perceive might be in competition with it. They are children. Getting riled up about anything they say or do with respect to this is pointless.

I was more disturbed by the descriptions of the lengths the “Twilight Moms” have gone to in their obsession. Those women are scary.

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I just read the Twilight books, and to be honest the first one give me the feeling of a “nice fanfic”, the second and third are better. The author tries to portrait the “regular teen girl”, and make her the queen of her drama, with two loves to choose from. That´s the issue of her books, Bella and her love triangle, in pursuing this, the rest of the story felt kind of lost (lost in translation, maybe). It´s just too “90210ish” or “Melrose Place teenish”. Now, if my sister buys the four book, I probably going to read it, I always look for closure when I read a series of books, I like closure, finish, finito. But Meyer recently declared she will write other books with more adventures of Edward, Bella, Jacob, Bunny, Binny and Coco ;) , so no closure for me this time, I hope not. I like Harry Potter series for a lot of reasons, great narrative, great characters, and because Rowling said 7, and finished it, beautifully, and give me closure (I like closure, you know).

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Saria: Haha, you sound just like my sister. She was saying all of that to me yesterday. I totally agree too. Bella is rather pathetic. I still love the books, but Bella annoys me to no end.

I do think that Rob is great for the role of Edward. He’s good looking, and thats basically all he has to be. I still like Harry way better than Twilight, but thats because they are just much better written. The EW cover was just all wrong. The one in the rain was much better!

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Here’s what I think: if you mention Harry Potter in a room, everyone will either join you in talking about it, or else insult it. (grr!) If you say Twilight, no one will know what it is.

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Martha, I agree for the most part with what you are saying. However, I think people have every right to discuss what they dislike just as much as what they enjoy. Can they do it in a more respectful manner than I have seen displayed so far today? You bet. Should fans of different communities troll each others websites, absolutely not.

The problem is there are several people who do not enjoy the Twilight series for several reasons. Some find the characters 2-dimensional or even Mary Sue like. Others are disturbed by the message (though this message seems to differ from reader to reader). The most common reason is the quality of the writing. Yes some people may find the plot of the Harry Potter series to be juvenile and are quick to point out the many flaws in JKR’s style, but these problems are no where near the level of Meyer’s problems. This is because Meyer’s had very little experience writing before she started these books, and she barely takes a full year to finish each one. So, if you find a book to be poorly written, it doesn’t make you a book snob. It simply means you don’t like a book and/or series. If you do enjoy Twilight, it doesn’t make you a bad person either. It just means you can look past the blemishes and find a fun story to enjoy.

Now, the people who try to argue HP will never be great literature, or try to compare it to works considered to be “great literature,” yes, they are the book snobs. Why, because a book doesn’t become a work of art for generations. Was Hunk Finn considered “great literature” when it first came out, I doubt it. So it is impossible to know where HP will end up in the history of literature. For all we know, it will probably just be a cultural phenomenon, and that’s it. Personally, I don’t mind it, because I enjoy the series.

I agree that their doesn’t need to be a battle between Twilight fans and HP fans, because they are very different series. However, as long as the media continues to compare the two series, there will be always be discussion regarding the merits of both.

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I love both series.. of course I love HP more.. lol.. I can’t wait for the movie to come out.. I bought the EW magazine the day it came out just for the fact that I love Rob.. I can’t wait to meet him on the 24th at comic-con… I’m soooo excited…

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You know, I read the name Edward Cullen is, “M-O-O-N, that spells poison, Tom Cullen knows that, everybody knows that.” Yes, random, but there it is. Anyone? Anyone?

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Well said Mollywobble. This is my humble opinion. At first I was very ruluctant to read Twilight, I admit I was acting like a bit of a snob. It’s a romance and I just did not want to be another fangirl squealing over Edward. Yet I was curious, how could I give an opinion about these books if I refused to read them?

So I read them. All. Now for the first book, while I was most definatly entertained, I still was a bit like what? This has sold how much!!!! Why? Then I read the others and now….bring on the fourth, I say!

No this is not something I shout about in public (until now!), still part of me is a little embarressed for being a Twilight fan. Why? What is wrong with enjoying a book? Well, for a number of reasons really…first, I can not stand the fan base. When Robert Patt first got the position of Edward he got serious hate mail, tons of it. And now nobody can shut up about him. Bit shallow, isn’t it? People (women, young girls for the most part) are so obsessed with the two main male leads it is literally all they can talk about. Maybe that is because Bella is just so…well, boring. Harsh I know, but I’m allowed to say it, she’s fictional! A fact I think, that people getting on their high horse should remember…

Should the two series be comapared? No but it was sgoing to happen and really it isn’t harming anybody. In fact, I am positive it is helping the twilight fan base. And really I can’t see anyone really battling on here…if you’ve read the book and don’t like it fine, tell people if you want. If you love it, the same. We’re all fans of HP here (otherwise we wouldn’t be here) but that doesn’t mean we have to agree on everything.

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I have wanted to read the “Twilight” series for a while now. However after reading some of these posts I am not sure they are for me. My personal take is that the movie is going to bomb. Just like “The Golden Compass”, “Eragon”, “A Seriesof Unfortunate Events”, and countless other young fantasy novels turned into movies that try to capitalize on the Harry Potter phenomenon and fail to stand on their own and stay true to their core fans. Robert Pattinson looks like he is the lead singer in a CURE cover band. That reference probably dates me and I might be too old to read the books anyway, but if the movie is using new wave 80’s style for it’s mysterious sexy vampire, then there is a problem.

But like other people have said on these comments I like to make up my own mind about things and never want to consider myself as a culture snob, ranting about how something is badly written and poorly concieved. There are some people who say the same thing about HP.
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Ick!!!!! What an anti- Potter interview. Have some loyalty Robert!

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I didn’t like the cover of EW (but I hardly ever like magazine covers, they are always a little tacky). The spreads inside EW however looked great!

Oh…... and jeez, people are getting really passionate about the Twilight and HP. I have been Twilight fan for just a couple months and a fan of HP for almost 10 years, but SERIOUSLY PEOPLE, there comes a time when you just have to ignore fighting, shut down the computer and get outside to enjoy the summer. So….I’m out of here.

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I love Robert in that interview! It seems like the media is encouraging a constant Twilight v. HP comparison/which one is better – and Rob handled it well. C: As for Twilight I have read the books and agree with some of the critique. (that Bella is a sorry protagonist and that in order to read it I have to wipe my mind blank to keep going.) Bottom line is that HP will always be number 1 for me.

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Its the old me Back. @ Kari If you read it then at least you know where I am coming from when I said that they took some really poor quotes from Tween girls and the article wasnt well written. I was hoping someone else read it so they knew what I was trying to say. By the way dont know about some of you but Rob will always be Cedric Diggory to me.

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Here Here, Martha, well said! I couldnt agree with you more. It’s not an either/or thing… if you like HP it shouldnt mean you have to hate Twilight and visa versa. There is always room to love books. That being said, everyone should feel free to voice your opinions of both works. Criticize the work, not the reader.

And I also agree with something Kari said: It’s the media doing all the comparisons. It’s like they’re trying to find “the next Harry Potter”, and if they stir up the fandoms, then all the better. More to talk about.

What gets me about this interview, tho, and I know it’s a very “hollywood” way to think, is when he was doing Potter, he talked about what a great character cedric was, how he was noble, and a good guy, and the kinda guy you’d want to be or have as a friend. Now that he’s doing Twilight, he’s talking down the HP character (like he has no substance), and how this new character is so much more “substantial”. Seems hypocritical to me.

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I love and respect Rob so much, both as a person and an artist. And I’m purposefully calling him an artist because he’s so wonderfully versatile. Some people really get it all, don’t they? I hope stardom goes easy on him cause he seems to be a sensitive, soulful sort of person. :)

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@ Danielle (on page 1)

You said that Edward has no personality.. Did you read Midnight sun’s 1st chapter? Do you know who Edward was before he met Carlisle.. or have you read book 2 and 3? Because if you did, you cannot honestly tell me that he has no personality.

Edward is flirty and spontanious, daring and occasionally funny.. He’s very unhappy with himself, with who he is.. he doesn’t want that kind of life for Bella, that’s why leaves.. to give Bella a chance to live her life.. Edward is caring and would ‘die’ to save a friend or a family member.. he’d even save Jacob if that would make Bella happy..

Edward would let Bella go, if she’d choose Jacob.. That to me sounds like a person who is: Giving, Caring & slightly selfish but also very unselfish.. someone with sense of humor and a mind of his own.. someone driven, who would do whatever it takes to do what he has too..

those are all things of someone’s personality.. and the character of Edward has all those..

If after this.. you still think that Edward has no personality and is only there for the ‘sparkling’, ‘dazzling’ & ‘hotness’.. please go read something that is suitable for your IQ..

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I think Rob is really attractive, I think hes more attractive now though because it seams like he likes Harry Potter more than Twilight.

I love twilight but comone, Harry Potter is sooo much better! I dont even know how they can compare Twilight to an amazing book like Harry Potter.

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Jessica Stanley: you’re clearly a die-hard Twilighter. Please, don’t be mean this line

“If after this.. you still think that Edward has no personality and is only there for the ‘sparkling’, ‘dazzling’ & ‘hotness’.. please go read something that is suitable for your IQ..”

was completely unnecessary and rude. That’s her opinion, and frankly, I agree with her (and I’ve read the 3 books). But that’s our opinion about him, and you obviously have your own. That will never change.

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I agree with everthing Rob said, except the part where he says that ‘It’s a much more personal book than Harry Potter’. Harry Potter is much more personal than Twilight, even though Twilight is written in first person and Harry Potter isn’t.

Really, the only things that can be used for comparison are both books are fantasy, and both books are popular. End of comparison. I’ve seen people try to compare the romance in Twilight to the romance in Harry Potter, which is ridiculous. Harry Potter may have some romance, but nowhere near enough to compare them in that way. They’re two totally different books.

In my opinion, Harry Potter is the better book. Twilight is a good book, but Harry Potter is still better.

I’m done with my little rant now. = ]

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I’m actually trying to read Twilight right now, well I’m about to give up. I really can’t stand Bella and nothing really seems to be happening.

Oh well a least I didn’t wast my money buying the whole set.

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I agree with Kim when she says that that line was completely unnecessary. However, that dosen’t mean I think that the character of Edward has no personality. It’s unnecessary to be so mean to the people who disagree with your opinion. It’s YOUR opinion; not everyone has to agree with you.

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Same thing happend to me Sam, and I agree with your thoughts on it too.

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@Sam: The beginning of Twilight is quite…boring to tell the truth. Read on. It gets much better.

And yes, just because you are a Harry Potter fan does not mean you can’t like other things. (I remember this same discussion with SW) My god. I don’t know why you people keep comparing the two series! They are DIFFERENT! They have o relation to each other! They are done by different writers! STOP comparing them!

I hate fandoms so much! Everyone has to be so rude about everything! “No, this is better!” “No my series is better!”

Do you see JKR and Stephanie Meyer arguing? No. If I were them I would be so ashamed.

And I love Bella. She is amazing.

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Personally, I am way too obsessed over the Twilight series to ever say anything bad about it, but I am also not biased just because of that fact. I love the Harry Potter Series for its inside but outside of this world theme. I mean, it was set in the real world, but really, dragons? Outside. Twilight has just as much to love. You have to remember they are written by two completely different authors, both of who are exceptional writers. So all I want to say is, can’t we put our wands and fangs away?

Then there is this issue with the movie cast. When I first heard about the Twilight movie, I wondered just like everyone else who they would cast. When I learned that Robert Pattinson was to portray Edward, I was like, “Cedric, really?” I was a bit skeptical at first. But then there was one monumental moment that changed my mind. I went on youtube to watch the Twilight trailer and sure enough, so Edward- like that my heart hesistated, he did it, the smile. Not just any smile, but the one and true, genuine crooked smile. And I was dead set on Robert Pattinson as Edward Cullen.

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Twilight is a great series with deep, complex characters. I hope the movie as a beautiful to look at as the books are written. So far the trailer (on imdb) is making me quite hopeful. And while I wouldn’t have chosen Robert Pattison for Edward, I can see him in this role.

By the way the fourth installment comes out Aug 2 and I have a copy on hold. Very exciting!

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Simply put… twilight is for teenagers and youngster. Harry Potter is for every age group.

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YES JORDAN!! It was also the crooked smile that convinced me that Robert was the right choice for Edward, he really’s gotten into the character.

Ok, now, about this whole HP X Twilight thing. Come on that’s just childish.

Both series are great, impossible to compare ‘cause they’re so different, but great all the same.

Twilight IS more personal, it’s Bella’s point of view, her PERSONAL view.

Harry Potter IS more complex.

Harry Potter is deeper, many “life lessons”, and that’s great, that makes it a great series, However, Twilight has many good things too, the true love thing, the worth of friendship during bad times, the importance of family (The Cullens are great)...

Bella is a little annoying, ok, sometimes she’s very very annoying. So what? THe story is GREAT. Some characters are adorable, how can someone not love Edward? or Alice? specially Alice, I love her so much.

Is Twilight better? Harry Potter is better?

It’s not important. Both series are great, many people don’t like HP, many people don’t like Twilight. Fine, to have an opinion is a good thing. What I thing very funny is the fact that everybody hates when someone speak badly about their favorite series and then do what? speak badly about some other series.

Here, in Brazil, we often say: “Don’t do to others what you wouldn’t like them to do with you.” I don’t know if there’s a similar saying in english, probably yes, so please keep that in mind.

Do you want you opinion to be respected? Respect other’s people opinion first.

Sorry any mistake, as I said I’m brazilian and only studied english in high school, I’m 26, so…. Forgive any mistake.

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Couldn’t have said it better myself Renata. Agree with everything you said.

And no mistakes I could see. =D

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i’m glad i’m not the only one with this twisted love/hate relationship with the books. i can’t stand them for so many reasons and yet i can’t stop reading them and will be a the midnight release. i feel like i should be at a twilight readers annymous meeting or something

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Bella chose to make herself miserble as Jacob points out she wouldn’t let go of Edward.

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Beth A I think he means he has a bigger part.

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There are many books out there that have stood the test of time – the litmus for good literature – and some are “fantasy” books and some are not. But their common feature is that they capture the imagination of those who read them, and therein lies the magic of engrossing oneself in the pages of a wonderful story. I am very thankful to the talented individuals who put pen to paper and transport me to their world, whatever and wherever that is. Kudus to J.K. Rowling for bringing us Harry Potter and providing me with endless hours of enjoyment. I hope I discover many more amazing books before I die but one thing is for sure – my tastes are uniquely my own and have no need of being defended to anyone. BTW – Robert is gorgeous, whatever character he plays. Kudus to him too!

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Okay, people are asking why we’re so against Twilight? Very well, I’ll attempt to shed some light on the matter. We are at one of the ultimate HARRY POTTER fansites, which means we appreciate great literature with intricate plots, a wealth of characters, things we cna identify with, important messages, etc. So when people attempt to compare that to books which revolve around one character’s “hotness”, do you wonder why we get mad? Do you see any battles on the Mamma Mia posts concernign Julie Walters? I don’t, because Mamma Mia is classic in its own way, its built up a loyal following, and no one dreams of comparing the two. So for this battle to end, the comparisons must end. If teenage girls want to read that junk, let them.

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I showed the Twilight movie poster to my little sister. She ran out of the room crying.

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Well put hpboy. I can see why people would compare Star Wars and Harry Potter – I have myself because I am a big fan of both fandoms. But yes they posess many unique single qualites of there own and each will go down in history as an individual phenomenom. There are however many similarities between them as well. Vader- Voldy, Storm Troopers- Death Eaters, Luke- Harry, Han and Leia- Ron and Hermione…......and a few others. Obviously we all know Voldy is in no way Harrys Father- HIKES that would be scary.

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This is turning into BS. God, I’m so tired of fandoms.

This sucks so bad. I love Twilight and Harry Potter equally. Only because they can not compare to each other. And now i feel like I can’t be a fan of one f I like the other and vis versa. That feels so awful.

I’m so tired of people ragging on both of them. I mean, can you be a little nicer with what you say?

Jessica Stanley, what you said was rude and uncalled for. Very much what Jessica would say though so kudos for that.

hpboy13, calling Twilight “junk” really isn’t helping either.

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After reading these comments I am feeling ashamed of being associated with either fandom, both HP and Twilight. The comments are just out of this world.

I mean, what would happen if JKR and SM met and shook hands and made a treaty? Then would people calm down? I sure hope so. I mean, to know both authors recognize each others work as good (especially SM since she has said she never expected her series to be as popular as HP) I would really like to hear what JKR has to say about the matter. We need a new interview. I would love to see her at the Twilight movie premier.

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i love fandoms, they’re like highschool, except you can talk crap about the other without worrying about being beat up after school.

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Fandoms have more drama than high school. It is really juvenile and immature.

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i’m a puertorican if you know what that is. Anyway,im a HUGE,BUT HUGE,HUGE FAN OF twilight. And my first love was harry potter,but now that twilight is made into a movie. I just WAO!!!! and i just got so obsessive with twilight,more than HP. ok now,talking about robert. Hes soooo hot!! hes perfect for edward. and for all the girls out there. read twilight!! you would not dare put the bookj down. SINK YOUR TEETH IN TWILIGHT!!! your gonna get hook up. AND SEE THE MOVIE DEC,12

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im so exited!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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Robert Pattinson as the Daniel Radcliffe of the “Twilight” series? That’s a huge compliment to Dan but time will tell if Robert will achieve the stature that Dan has achieved. I never thought that RB is as handsome as Cedric and in that cover pic,(which looks like a bad rendition of a Harlequin romance cover) he looks looks like an underfed, trying hard to be intense matinee idol. Hope his acting skills have improved some. This book has some pretty die hard followers. Hope RB lives up to their expectations.

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BellaSnape showed an example of a comparison often made, of HP to the Star Wars series. did you know you can make the same comparison to The Lion King? Here goes:

Voldy / Scar; Death Eaters / Hyenas; Harry / Simba; Ron & Hermione / Pumba & Timone; James & Lilly / Mufassa & whateverthemomsnamewas

It just goes to show, that you can compare just about anything if you look hard enough. LOL!

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I just finished reading Twilight yesterday. It took me a little over a day to read (had things to do…)

I realized that they can co-exist. It’s sad that the fandoms fight so.

But, then again, within HP fandom there are rivalries, so I can’t expect there not to be one with another book series.

Of course, HP is tops and although I like Edward, I LOVE Ron… :)

I’ve purchased New Moon and Eclipse and I plan to read Breaking Dawn when it comes out. I do plan to see the Twilight movie.

But, I am scratching at the WALLS just to SEE a glimpse of the HBP trailer. guh

Twilight is just quelshing my appetite for HP until I can get my fix.

Edward:Bella::AJ:HBP

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Beth A,

I’ve always thought of Simba and Nala as Ron and Hermione. Or rather Rupert and Emma’s reaction to their characters throughout the years (I’m not a Rupert and Emma shipper,.....althought they do make it pretty hard they look so adorable together, but anyway…)

In the beginning, they were all like yuck over it (like S/N) and now they are nervous, but are all for it….YAY!!!!

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I gave Twilight a try because people said it was the next Harry Potter….. I was shocked by how wrong they were…. well, it was nothing like HP, and it will never compare in a million years. Honestly, I’ve never read something so bad in my life, and I approached it with no negative opinions, just a bit of hope that it would tide me over. I’ve read boring books, but never a book that I could see bad writing in that was so popular. So, I’m not reading the rest of the books and I want to sell my copy of Twilight. Anyone want it? xD

Anyway, I discovered Avatar and that is what I was looking for to tide me over. Thank god. >.>

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I think the people that have posted nasty comments here (which a majority are) and are involved in these little fandom wars are pathetic.

And Dementor, I agree with almost everything you have said. I glad that there are still a few people like you left in this fandom. You give me hope. =)

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haha, this is hilarious people – i’m kinda imagining a fight coming on between Harry and Edward….only Harry’s kicking more ass cos Edward’s too busy looking pretty. wow, no you really cannot compare HP and Twilight as they are in completely different genres. in the fantasy sense, yeh Twilight is kinda part of it but is not in the same caliber as HP or LOTR. Vampire genre wise – watch some Buffy – seriously they have so many more bigger issues than Edward and Bella will ever have + the romance apsect is so much more realistic. Romance wise, i really feel like Twilight’s gonna burst out in soapie melodrama and monologues that go on forever…. but you know with less sleeping around. although i really cannot find the Twilight series appealing. i have asked people why – they say because it’s fun and goofy. there you go – it’s an entertaining read but not a serious read so people ease up a bit (no don’t actually, it’s fun watching you fight)

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wrting is just a badly wittren romance novel for teenage girls.

I read fanfction written by 12 years old that was way better than those shallow books written in purple prose.

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twilight is just a badly wittren romance novel for teenage girls.

I read fanfction written by 12 years old that was way better than those shallow books written in purple prose.

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i am so tired of these people on this site saying bad things about Twilight. i love the books and i think Meyer is a wonderful writer. why can’t she be successful too! of course they are not as good as the harry potter books but they come pretty darn close. and they are making kids read. please if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all

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Some people still can’t seem to wrap their minds around the fact that Twilight was never written or published to be put in direct competition or comparison to Harry Potter. It was just a story Meyer had written and was lucky enough to get published. The comparisons and perceived competition is an invention by an entertainment media that looks for its next big rivalry like a drug addict looking for a hit. They INVENTED it, and unfortunately it has caught on. Don’t believe the hype!

Harry Potter is DEFINITELY much better written – exceedingly so, and I doubt that Twilight will stand the test of time like HP will; but that’s beside the point. Twilight is popular right now. People love it. There’s going to be a movie. It WILL do well. There WILL be sequels. Robert Pattinson is about to break loose like Orlando Bloom after the first “Pirates,” and it’s well-deserved. The boy is more than a pretty face. If all you’ve seen of him is GoF, you’re in for a shock.

I’m not saying that you have to like Twilight, but please try to remember that not everything that is enjoyable has to be substantial. Harry Potter is dark chocolate – you savor it, you appreciate its texture, it alters your moods, it’s there for you when you are happy or when you are sad. Twilight is marshmallow – sometimes you JUST NEED and WANT a MARSHMALLOW. So please don’t pee on other people’s marshmallows. If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all.

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OK finished Twilight. The book does get better but I still don’t get what the fuss is about. Maybe the other novels are better? Can anyone recommend another series of books for HP fans to read?

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Finally, a comparison that isn’t slandering either fans. I am very active in both fandoms, and Rob’s description is very enlightening. I, too, didn’t think that Rob looked like Edward, but after seeing the teaser trailer, field trip scene, and footage from ET,I can say he is the best Edward possible.

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OMG I love these books so much, can’t wait for the last one, one three weeks left! And the movie trailers and behind the scenes stuff looks soooo good. I’ve seen nearly everything Robert has been in and i have to say, he is an extremely talented actor, and perfect for the role of Edward I think. That flawless american accent makes me weak at the knees hehe. Well done Rob! You’re the next Jude Law hun!

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P.S. Yes I agree, Robert is a smart guy and understands the differences in both books, and totally understands his character. His interview was very enlightening, everything he said was accurate. He understands that Edward is not perfect, its only the way Bella sees him. Edward actually has a very big self loathing part to him, shame and guilt. He understands why people are so obssessed with Twilight. man…Robs great!

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Also, I am NOT getting into a argument here but i have to say, Twilight is NOT badly written fan-fiction, I cannot stand it when people say that. Its totally insulting to a great series. At least there is proper emotion in Twilight. And anyone who thinks Stephanie is a bad writer should really read the HOST, its AMAZING, I couldn’t put it down. Twilight is not the most best written book I will admit, (even as its no. 1 fan), but the story and emotion is like nothing i’ve ever read before. Its just, brilliant. And stephanie’s writing has improved completely with time. Eclipse is far better than Twilight by the way for any of you doubters who refuse to finish the series.

Anyway, since i’ve read Twilight I actually like it far more than HP, but hey thats just me. Everyone to their own. I know plenty of people who love both, and plently of people who stick to one.

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@Miss Freewind: Thanks! I’m glad I’m not alone in this ridiculous war! =D

@Emma: Thank you for mentioning the Host! It is the best book I have ever read after DH.

And yeah, Twilight isn’t perfect but what is? Harry Potter isn’t perfect either. It has plenty of mistakes and some badly written moments. These books are Meyer’s first. As we saw with JKR, Meyer will improve. And to show she can improve within 3 years is outstanding! Her books get increasingly better. Read The Host, as Emma said.

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I’m a big fan of both. I wasn’t at first. I really did not want to like Twilight, it just did not sound like my thing. But I did and now I’m really pleased! It’s a good thing to like a variety of books, there’s more on offer! Emma, you have a point. THe Host is technically much, much better then the Twilight series (not quite as entertaing though!). I think Stephenie Meyer really shows how capable she is in that book. For any people who find fault with her writing in the first twilight book or dislike the romantic element maybe you would prefer it? The competition between the two fandoms was started by the media, that is all. It makes me sad to see people from both sides carrying it on… I know tons of people who got into the whole Hp thing late, mabe starting on book 3 or 4? When they went backwards and read the first one they were like, what?! And others I have persuaded to give the series a go finished the first book and just couldn’t understand what all the fuss is about. What I ‘m trying to say is that the first book in both series is most likely the weakest so, for anybody who wants to give the twilight series a go don’t read it expecting miracles, it is just a fun way to pass the time.

Oh, and as somebody said earlier, I too find it a bit…erm, shallow how so many twilight fangirls can go on and on squeeing about Robert when they were the ones bashing him terribly in the first place! When I see that I do understand how so many people can dismiss the fandom out of hand, makes it all seem a bit silly, doesn’t it? :)

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“So please don’t pee on other people’s marshmallows”

@Kari: Best comment EVER!!!! You are my new fav poster!!! That made me laugh so hard!

And yeah, I agree with everything Kari said.

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sam- Have you read Lord of the Rings, by J.R.R. Tolkien?The Host, by Stephenie Meyer, is a good book. The Uglies trilogy, by Scott Westerfeld. Twilight for me is a slow book. New Moon was sad, but Eclipse was the best.

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People compare HP & the Twilight books? Really? Why? I can see it having fans in common but I would have to agree with Pattinson in that they aren’t comparable. HP is a fantasy story with a little bit of romance here and there while the Twilight series is a romance story with a little bit of fantasy here & there. It’s like comparing apples and watermelons.

Looking forward to the movie though I think they should’ve waited until the Edward perspective book came out.

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Cool interview. I agree with him on some parts, but I think he is going to be a bit prejudice when it comes to talking about the books. He IS one of the main characters in Twilight and this movie is about to come out and will possibly be competing with HP at the box office, so I don’t think that was a reasonable question to ask him.

I don’t think it’s a reasonable question PERIOD! I mean seriously I wish the media would stop comparing the two books, because frankly they’re nothing alike. The ONLY thing they have in common is the same fans, for the most part. Alot of Harry Potter fans have used Twilight as their rebound book. It’s like when you break up with someone and then you start dating someone else right after just so you can have a shoulder to cry on.

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I actually liked the Twilight books, they were a good, fun read. Definately “chick books” and I cannot wait for the movie. It does get a little trying reading about how beautiful Edward is, Bella does seem a little moony at times. The only comparison to HP is, in my opinion, is that Twilight is also an ongoing series.

I feel sorry for Robert Pattison throughout the publicity portion of the movie as he will be constantly asked about his looks and how did he feel portraying such a “perfect” character. I’m sure there will be too many of those types of questions and not enough about the actual work of being Edward.

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“Definately ‘chick books”

Not true at all. I know several men, including myself and my father, who really like the books.

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Okay, people…calm down. Comparing these two series is like apples and oranges, both fruits but taste VERY different.

I was actually a Twilight hater before I read the series. I sped through the first book, finished New Moon in 2 days, and I’ve just begun to read Eclipse to get ready for Breaking Dawn.

Now, I love Harry Potter dearly, but I must say that I feel so much more connected to Bella and Edward than any other character in any series I’ve read so far…and that’s saying something. I think it’s because a) I’m a girl b) I’m around Bella’s age c) the way Stephenie Meyer writes the series is just breathtaking…it kept me glued to the pages the whole time. I didn’t eat or sleep for days. O.O

But I do agree that Twilight won’t be as popular as Harry Potter…it’s just not as universally appealing. Twilight mostly appeals to all females, there isn’t much for guys to relate to. lol

Anyway, since I just became a devoted Twilight fan in a matter of weeks, I’m siding with both fandoms. Why all the fighting, anyway? It’s just pointless…

(By the way, I love Robert and all, but I don’t think anyone on earth could play Edward. Well…I know like one person. That’s not the point, though. Just like with HP, the books will always trump the movies. ^^V)

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I have read the twilight series and enjoyed the books. I look forward to the movie but I cant believe the criticism that people have given this poor gent (R.Pattinson) when we havent even seen the movie yet. I am not one to give any opion of this kind but give the guy a break. In the book Bella compares Edwards face and eyes to an angel and ladies have you looked at Mr. Pattinson he is it quite handsome. I have a feeling this Mr. Pattinson is going to be around for awhile and I am glad and so are my girlfriends for that matter. I just cant believe how much bashing I have heard and I thought it was not only ridiculous but hurtful and not necessary. He is absolutely adorable and the EW cover was not great but so what we all know he is a fox. All I say is go home grab the book (TWILIGHT) and read it and think of Mr. Pattinson and you will see Edward. As for me Mr. Pattinson can be my Edward any day!

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You know its a slooooow news week in the HP fandom when there are seven pages worth of comments on a Twilight story.

No offense to anyone, but reading some of these comments has been quite a laugh because it shows just what a lack of news we have had around here (Thanks WB!). Plus I still don’t understand why I have read the same statement over and over about “why can’t I be a fan of both?”, I didn’t read any comments that said anything about not allowing anyone to be a fan of both. You can be a fan of both, but just don’t be so shocked to be on a HP fansite and find alot of people don’t like Twilight and don’t be shocked to go on a Twilight fansite and find even more who don’t like HP. I think Twilight was probably even more susceptible to the media’s attempts to turn the two fandoms against eachother simply due to its fan base being mostly adolescent girls, not all Twilighters are teen girls but the majority are, no one would deny that. And we all know how “sweet” adolescent girls can be.

I mean WHO CARES? If you like/love Twilight, then like/love Twilight. If you love HP, you love HP. If you like both, and so on… Don’t worry so much about what other people think of what you enjoy and makes you happy. Everyone is always going to have an opinion, as they should, you can’t change that, what you can do is not let it get to you so much. Not everyone is going to like the same things, how boring would that be?

Bottom line, you can disagree without being disrespectful.

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Okay I’m only going to say this once. Rob is right the books are completely to different series. Harry Potter is about magic and the battle of good and evil. Twilight is a romance novel, with a twist. In my opinon you can’t have romance without vampires. Don’t get me wrong I like Harry Potter I’ve read all of the books. I just moved on to blood, gore, and romance. Harry Potter will always be one of my favorite series(even if the last book sucked) but I’ve moved on to vampires.

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@ tinagin-

Are you crazy? Have you read the books? Edward is all about personality!!!!!! I think most people, along with myself, would disagree with you on your comment!

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The above mentioned comment was meant for Danielle. My bad.

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@Onyx: You thought DH sucked??? =O

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OMG Twilight trailer up on the internet!!!!!! It is very amazing!

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Okay, honestly I need to say this. I agree that the fandoms should stop bashing each other. It’s nuts and it just gets everyone mad. The media has been enjoying this stupidity in getting all the fans riled up.

. . . But also, I think that people who are criticizing Twilight shouldn’t be bashed. I mean, unless they say something like “Twilight sucks and it should be burned,” then I don’t think someone should be forbidden to critcize it. I personally am not a big fan of Twilight because I have read books that are far superior to Twilight. I just find the hype ridiculous because I’ve read much better books.

If you like Twilight though, that’s great. If you don’t, that’s great too. Seriously, people all have a right to an opinion and just because we don’t want to have a war doesn’t mean people should be discouraged to voice their views.

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That is exactly what I was saying too beatifically.

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I LOVE Robert Pattinson!! He was great in Harry Potter, and out of the scenes, previews, and youtube videos I’ve watched I think he is AWESOME in it. I’ve read all the books and reading the series again, I’ve read the Harry Potter books too, but (for all you people who like Harry Potter more than Twilight you are not going to like this.) I like Twilight more than Harry Potter. But I almost cried in New Moon, I was almost there, but I was so mad at Edward (even though he did it cuz he only wanted best for Bella) that I didn’t read it for weeks. Anyway my point is I LOVE THE TWILIGHT SERIES!!! & the Twilight cast. ( and for all you Jacob lovers, Im sorry but I dissagree, I don’t like Jacob that much.)

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I’ve read them both and I like them both. I don’t think they should be compared, because they are so different and HP is a legend. I wish everyone would stop fighting about them. I’m going to see HBP and then I’m going to see Twilight. CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?! lol =)

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I was very disappointed with Twilight. I finally got through the book and my impression is that it needed editing. With a good editor, I believe it could’ve been much better. As it is, I think it could make a good movie. I’m sure there’s a good 90 minutes in it.

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I’m an HP fan and I’m getitng tired of this comparing between Twilight and Potterverse. The way I see it, the twilight producers are riding on the HP wave and using it to promote their movie. This will pass everyone. HP has been compared with other fantasy movies before and guess who came up the winner. From Narnia to Lemony snickets to Eragon, we’re stil here, the HP franchise is stronger than ever. And Dan has not sufered from being bashed by the fans of these movies. I shudder to think of when Dan was drubbed by the Moseley fans and Liam fans and that Eragon guy. And now the Patinson fans. It doesn’t help that Robert used to be a part of HP and now that he’s the frontliner of another franchise – is just too juicy a news to pass up by the rumor mongers.

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Daniel Radcliffe vs. Robert Pattinson? Why not? At least Robert is a more worthy competition than mousy Rupert Grint. Now, this is going to get dirty because they’re almost on the same level. Dan is a much higher nowadays because of his personal achievements and not just his connection with HP but many fans await what achievements Pattinson will make now that he’s a leading man in his own movie franchise.

As for Potter vs. Twilight, eh – no competition. We’ve faced much stronger competition before and we’ve come out the winner. JKR is just on a higher level than that Twilight writer.

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im readind twilight.i must say robert wrong choose.he isnt very handsome boy and he is very good actor.actually gaspard ulliel or ben whishaw be good choose then robert.but they mistake.anyway now some twilight fans begin insult to harry potter (for example they says harry potter isnt good movie and book,harry potter is gay ….)i dont like it. i think harry potter won in box office.because harry potter is phenomenon in world and harry potter’ all actors very good.but twilight only loves usa and some country. finally im still real harry potter fans.so im only watch harry potter movies.

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LOL. I’m offended that anyone would even think of comparing Twilight to Potter…. (and it makes me laugh, since i have a tendency to laugh when people are being utterly stupid and insane). I read Twilight, and i’m a fan, but – serisously- it ain’t much more than PURE ENTERTAINMENT. the emotion is great, the characters are well defined, it’s great suspense (at certain times)- but honestly, it’s very very simple; the plot – so far- has been utterly and completely predictable. Harry Potter- erm… to put it simply, it’s being studied and analysed in schools. It’s more than a book, and definitely so much more than entertainment. It’s sheer genius. It’s a whole other world that Rowling has created, and yet it’s exactly the same- just with the little magical world detail. :P And for heck’s sake- if some people think that Harry really is just a cute little book for kids (as the media often portrays it to be) – just look at the number of characters in that book. There’s at least 200, right? more than that. And they’re not all there just for the sake of being there. Each one has their own role and importance in the plot and the meaning of the book… and to what robert said- there is no way that twilight is more personnal than harry potter; first person point of view never means “more personnal”, and the range of emotions in twilight is tiiiny compared to the one in Potter- therefore twilight appealing only to a certain level of personnal-ness (sorry, can’t find a real word :P). um… comment getting a tad long, so i’ll just add one more thing- how is twilight more REAL than Potter, what with the main (and almost only) theme being treated there is love between a man and a woman? won’t mention all the themes in Potter, or this post’ll really never end:P don’t get me wrong – i realllllllllllllyyyyyy enjoy reading the twilight saga, and i could read it again and again, but to compare its (very enjoyable, lovely and loveable) simplicity to the (genius, amazing, incredibly overwhelming and enjoyably and heart-breaking) complexity of HP…. GRRRRR!!!!! My rant’s over now.

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stupid media getting on my nerves!

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Oh Faith, Gaspard Ulliel is absolutely gorgeous, heavenly, especially in that new ad for Longchamp with Kate Moss.

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I agree with Onyx. I love Potter, but I have moved onto blood, gore and intense romance. I’m sorry to say but HP totally pales in comparison to Twilight. Don’t get me wrong HP is fantastic, but to me now its just a saga for children based on Hitler and a hero who is lucky over and over again. I loved it, and a part of me will still always love it, but i’ve moved on to better things. And the crap Potter movies with their terrible actors and crap directors (Newell and Yates) made me lose respect for the books. I can’t read the potter books any more without seeing the crap actors that I hate and it totally takes away from it. At least Rob Pattinson can actually act, and I mean really act, i’ve seen all his work and he’s just amazing. A part of me is really mad at Rowling and Heyman for letting Yates direct OOTP and i’m so mad at the producers for not getting rid of Radcliffe and Watson after POA. They’ve totally ruined one of my fave book series. Why didn’t they replace the actors and why didn’t they bring back Alfonso Cuaron or get Tim Burton or something?

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Emma- “a saga for children based on hitler”?!!? HOW exactly can hitler and everything he represents be something a saga for CHILDREN is based on?! i think that that’s a SERIOUSLY ignorant comment to make. ... and how you can think that when a book is based on hitler, there isn’t any gore involved? just the very IDEA of him involves gore… or are you saying that harry potter is really just a cute little peachy saga that’s based on the nazis – but of course, there’s nothing gross in these books. .no torture or anything…. no death… no blood…... and seriously, is that all you see in harry potter? hitler? and cuteness? i think you might’ve skipped over a couple of hundreds of pages, skimming over the pages of the books. and WHY do you even WATCH those movies? it’s awfully sad if you let the existence of a (horrible) movie ruin your perception of a book. and how the heck s it the books’ fault that there are movies based on them? don’t lose respect for these books- lose respect forthe film-makers. and if it actually does that to you- why do you even watch them? are you saying that harry is LUCKY? wow.

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woops. didnt mean to post twice.

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OK, I’ve read all these reviews…. my thoughts:

Martha, I really agree, both the series are AMAZING and no one should contradict them just because it’s being compared to Twilight.

Ashley, have you actually read the books??? They are just as good as Harry Potter. Hate me if you will, but I like them both equally!

I agree with the people that didn’t like the cover…. it was not good at all. He really did look like a hairy powdered donut! :) Just know though, vampires don’t tan and they stay out of the sun because they sparkle in it brilliantly. So if us humans saw them we’d freak out… although I’d freak out for a different reason. :) I also think that CHACE CRAWFORD would have been perfect for this role.

In short, Twilight is amazing. So is Harry Potter. Whoever criticizes is just jealous. :)

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I agree! Chace Crawford would have been the better choice than Pattinson. Much more handsome and charismatic. And in terms of acting skills, Robert is not much better than chace.

As for the HP comparison, blah. It’s just promotional gimmick. If “Twilight” is desperate enough to use HP to promote the movie, that speaks of the quality of this film. I for one am tired of the vampire stories. And if the series is nothing more than a love story, eh, the world of literature is full to overflowing with love stories.

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Emma, in all honesty, if the movies made you lose respect for the books, then you weren’t ever a fan in the first place.

What blows my mind is how people can think Twilight is more mature JUST BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON A ROMANCE. Harry Potter has a genocide, abuse, possibly rape (I’m thinking of Ariana here), corruption of government, etc. and it’s less mature? That’s just . . . wow. I have no words to describe the stupidity of it.

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THANK YOU, BEATIFICALLY. thank you so much. Although as Emma has said – “Harry Potter is JUST a saga for CHILDREN based on hitler” (something along those lines). I agree – “That’s just . . . wow” . And I too have no words to describe the stupidity of it.

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Oh my…...I have no words to describe what I am feeling right now…...that hurt so much…..wow…....*cries

And I love the HP movies. They add to my experience. And I love Emma! She is a perfect Hermione. And Dan…..he is a good actor…I just wish he would bring it out more. December Boys was amazing!

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BEATIFICALLY: You’ve never actually read the Twilight series have you? There is rape and genoside in the Twilight series too! (Roslaie was gang raped by her fiancee and his friends and left to die in the streets, and the Vulturi have mass amounts of people brought to them to slaughter them). Also, Twilight mentions the topics of a mothers loss of her baby and suicide, something that HP does not deal with coz its not really appropriate for kids. P.S. I didn’t mean ACTUALLY BASED on Hitler, obviously. I just meant that Voldemort is a dictator obssessed with power, like Hitler. Although I love Potter, looking back on it, Its your basic “bad guy vs a young lucky hero” war saga. Thats all I meant lol. To me, Twilight is so much more than that. And yes, I would definitley call Twilight more mature. As Robert said himself, its a much more personal book. And it does deal with more mature themes in a more obvious way. Its also easier to relate to coz its set in the real world, and vampires are more human that the creatures in HP, (as Rob said himself). HP is mature too, but in a less obvious way, as it still suitable for children to read. Thats all I meant. I meant no offence, I love both series. I’m not here to slag Potter, i love Potter, I’m just defending Twilight against the people who have clearly never read it or the people who won’t read it because they assume the worst because its a love story. For those of us who’ve actually read Twilight, we all know its more than a love story, its about what makes a person human, good and bad, tempation (in every sense of the word), family bonds, and much more.

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Emma- here`s a definition of `genocide`, seing as you don`t seem to be familiar with the actualy meaning of the term: Term created after World War II to describe the systematic murder of an entire political, cultural, or religious group. & From the Greek genos (“race”) and the suffix -cide, “to kill”. The methodical destruction of an ethnic group. So you see, identifying the Volturi`s killing of `mass amounts of people` is by no means a genocide- firstly because it is not a slaughter of a certain identifiable group, the volturi do not choose these people according to race/politics/religion/ethnicity; secondly, because the volturi do not kill those humans with the goal of extermination, but with the goal of feeding themselves. And hitler was more than just obsessed with power- if that was all it was, genocide would not be a topic related to him. as with voldemort (by the way, voldemort and everything he represents in these books IS actually based on hitler. it’s the whole idea of ‘children’s books’ and ‘based on hitler’ in the same sentence that’s utterly wrong)

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a muggle: I apologise, I was under the impression that genoside only meant “mass killings” for no reason in a cruel way. But actually (In my opinon) the Vulturi DO committ genoside against humans because, (as we know from Stephanie’s books), vampires do not have to kill humans to live, they do it by choice. They could live off animals if they wanted, but they are evil and choose to slaughter humans, not just to feed, but because it gives them a sense of power over the human race, ergo its genoside because the Vulturi think they are better than humans, I see where you are coming from though, thanks for pointing that out to me. I just want to ask though, whats so wrong about “childrens books” and “based on hilter” in the same sentence? I may be wrong but I believe that Rowling herself has said that her books were losely based on idea of the the bible and the idea of a dictator like Hilter. And they are technically childrens books (no matter how many adults like them). So there is nothing “wrong” with my sentence at all. Dictators sort of like Hitler are included in lots of childrens stories, in most actually. Most good kids stories are about an evil twat who wants to overthrow a government or society and gain power over people and then there is the young hero who saves the day, ususally with a bit of blind luck. see what i mean?

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Emma, it appears that you don’t realize that your method of “defending Twilight” on the most part consists of belittling HP, which is not only poor, childish and hypocritical, but also a very unwise method to use in a HP fan site.

And if HP can be a basic “bad guy vs a young lucky hero” when ignoring all the other themes universally recognized in the series (evils of racism, the good and bad ways love can affect people, hunger for power, fear of death and how they both relate, importance of friendship and family, etc.), then Twilight can certainly be a basic “supernatural love story” when ignoring all the things you claim makes those books “so much more than that”.

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I see your point LUIZ, but its still true that Stephanie deals with the more mature topics in a more obvious descriptive way. Thats all i’m saying. For example, JK Rowling only said that Arianna was attacked by muggles. We don’t actually know that she was raped, and it would be only the older fans that would assume that. If you asked a child, they would say “Arianna was beaten up” and thats it. But in Eclipse, its very much implied that Rosalie was gang raped. I’m not dissregarding the mature, dark stuff in Potter to prove my point, my point all along was that Stephanie deals with the mature issues in a more obvious, personal way.

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Yeah… see, I’m on the group that doesn’t care about that at all. Simply being “explicit” or “mature” is not enough to sell people on a book. Also, being “personal”, in my view, has done no favors to the Twilight series, as I consider Bella to be one of the most annoying characters ever created.

And please, don’t be so arrogant to believe that people criticising Twilight have never read the books or only see it by its main theme. Many people in here criticising have read one or more Twilight books – and I’m one of them. Some people like that series, some hate it. Apparently, you are having a hard time accepting that.

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No, why would I mind if people don’t like it, if they’ve actually read them. Intense romance and vampires are not for everyone, and yes I can totally understand why some people would think Bella is annoying, I remember thinking to myself “jeez does she ever stop crying and screaming!”. But I just accept it and love her for who she is coz she has great qualities too. I just think people should give it a chance. And you really need to read Eclipse to get the full great effect of the series. “New Moon” is not half as good as Eclipse. Thats why I think people should read the 3 books and then judge it as a whole series, and not judge each book separately, because its a saga, just like HP. You can’t read one HP book and not read the rest hehe, am i right? To get the full story you have to read them all. Ive come across a couple of people who slag Twilight who have only read the first book and it just annoys me coz they haven’t bothered to read Eclipse, which is the best written. And them some people blindly insult it when they haven’t read any of them and that just pisses me off.

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No, why would I mind if people don’t like it, if they’ve actually read them. Intense romance and vampires are not for everyone, and yes I can totally understand why some people would think Bella is annoying, I remember thinking to myself “jeez does she ever stop crying and screaming!”. But I just accept it and love her for who she is coz she has great qualities too. I just think people should give it a chance. And you really need to read Eclipse to get the full great effect of the series. “New Moon” is not half as good as Eclipse. Thats why I think people should read the 3 books and then judge it as a whole series, and not judge each book separately, because its a saga, just like HP. You can’t read one HP book and not read the rest hehe, am i right? To get the full story you have to read them all. Ive come across a couple of people who slag Twilight who have only read the first book and it just annoys me coz they haven’t bothered to read Eclipse, which is the best written. And then some people blindly insult it when they haven’t read any of them and that just pisses me off.

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Sorry I didn’t mean to post that twice, P.S. LUIZ, I never once insulted HP, and i clearly stated that I was not here to slag it, I was only here to defend a great book series that people dismiss to quickly. Actually I was here on this site because I love HP, but I saw the article and I felt that Twilght needed some support.

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Emma- what’s wrong with “children’s books” and “based on hitler” in the same sentence? the wrong thing is that this series is based on hitler in the same way as what you would call an “adult’s book” would be based on hitler; by this i mean that in harry potter the subject is treated far more thoroughly, it is developped- we are shown almost an exact replica of hitler and his regime in these books. (what i mean is that in real childrens’ books, it would not be as delt with a subject as it is in Harry Potter- especially in the seventh book where it is basically the entire – for lack of a better word- “setting” of the action. The only reason for which these books are sometimes labelled as ‘children’s books’ is because of the level of the writing, the style- i’m talking here vocabulary-wise , and of the facility to understand that which is written. And you might’ve noticed that ever since the fifth book- maybe even third or fourth- this series has been less and less refered to as a children’s book, but more as a series directed to a more mature and understanding age group. By the way, Stephenie herslef often refers to the Twilight saga as a series directed mostly to young adults… The young adults’ category of novels is not very much regarded as the most mature of categories, what with the audience it is directed to. Twilight deals mainly with romance and its many complications and facets (as well as some moral questions regarding murder), and while it DOES make REFERENCE to several serious topics/themes (like the reference to rape with Rosaline which you have mentionned), these are not quite developped or explored as they should be in order to be labelled as ‘themes’ in the book. Heck- just look at the sheer number of topics you’ve got in a HP board and the one in twilight boards (and i’m not considering anything related to squeeling and swooning at how much this or that character is sooooooo loveable or adorable or sexy and HAWT or any fawning at the beautifulness or fleur or edward, or pigwidgeon if some want to talk about sexy gorgeousness).

I don't quite agree that Twilight deals more with 'mature' topics than Harry Potter simply because it references them in a more explicit way- in fact, if you'd actually analyse both series, you'll see that there's SO much more to on in Harry Potter, so much more to explore and discuss.
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woops – last line was supposed to be right before the “Heck” part, sorry :P. here: I don’t quite agree that Twilight deals more with ‘mature’ topics than Harry Potter simply because it references them in a more explicit way- in fact, if you’d actually analyse both series, you’ll see that there’s SO much more to on in Harry Potter, so much more to explore and discuss. Heck- just look at the sheer number of topics you’ve got in a HP board and the one in twilight boards (and i’m not considering anything related to squeeling and swooning at how much this or that character is sooooooo loveable or adorable or sexy and HAWT or any fawning at the beautifulness or fleur or edward, or pigwidgeon if some want to talk about sexy gorgeousness). there :) happy birthday deathly hallows!<3

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Well, I dont personally agree with you A Muggle but ok thats your opinion. I feel that there is plenty to disscuss about Twilight. Each of the Cullens have a very sad dark past, which gives plenty to annalyse. Jasper in the civil war for example is a big thing. Anyhoos, I just feel that just because HP has a dictator and war does not make it all that mature. And I also don’t think a lot of people can relate to that situation, while everyone can relate to being in high school and falling in love for the first time. Even though HP does have mature themes like war and discrimination, i just don’t think its quite as deep as Twilight. There’s nothing wrong with that as I still love both series and will for a very long time.

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wow, these comments are long! i have one thing to say, however. i have tried reading twilight and it’s bored me. i will always be a hp fan. through and through.

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Actually, seing as you claim to be an HP fan, I guess I’d expect you to have noticed (can’t remember at the moment the word i actually want to use) the very large and varied amount of topics&themes and the depth of these books… death, war, love (all forms of it), dictatorship, hate, racism, discrimination, slavery, different forms of bravery, the whole symbolic side of the four houses, also the whole use of magic in the novels, the way it’s actually not only a tool for the plot but actually very much of a litterary tool, politics, education, childhood, growing up, the different effects death has on people, how the “magical world of harry potter” is actually precisely the same as ours, with the same history, with the one difference being the existence of magic (although i AM waiting for MY hogwarts letter…) , abuse, rape, etc…... and the way I feel is that all these are interrelated in a manically genius way, and the impact they all have on the plot and characters is much more important than that of the (fewer) themes (other than romance) in Twilight. And then there’s the whole utter predictability of the extremely simple plot in twilight…. Um- actually, what I’m trying to say is that i feel that Twilight is one heck of a read, i REALLY love that series, but that if you compare it to Harry Potter, it seriously pales in comparison and especially on a literary level- twilight is mainly pure entertainment. (as in – twilight=entertainment [in my books.] and HP=entertainment+so much more) I actually think that a much bigger number of people can relate to harry potter than to twilight, and not only because of the nature of twilight and the point of view being one from a girl’s perspective, which already makes it more approachable for girls- as is prooved by the vast majority of the twilight fandom consisting of girls; i think it’s quite obvious that HP is much broader in its nature. And I think that evidence to this is the the comparison between the size of the HP fandom in the world and that of twilight (which is situated mainly in north america…). Anywhom… a lot of people actually CAN relate to a situation of war… and if you don’t think war&dictatorship are very mature topics, how about i put it this way.. war and dictatorship- it’s all related to politics. and politics- seing as that’s what rules our lives in a certain way, everywhere on this planet, i’d say that it takes a mature reader in order to understand the scope of the meaning of it. and politics is more than dictatorship and war – just to be clear in my meaning (maybe i’m not clear, but i’m awfully tired at the moment… there’s my excuse for all my comments being so dragged on, i always write a lot late at night … and i always come here late at night… ‘nyways, i’ll shut up now :) )

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Wow A Muggle, your last comment was so long. Well I’m not going to continue this as I dont’ wana argue but I just thought I would remind you that I never said that War and Discrimation were not mature, I actually said the opposite. I admitted they are mature topics but I feel that Twilight is more personal, (which to me, is better). Well no, no matter what you say, most people in the modern western world cannot relate to a war, at least not a war like in Potter, with mass killings and where people are in hiding because of who they are. i’m not from america or the middle east so i certainley cannot relate to it and i don’t think the majority of americans can relate to it either. And I highly dissagree that Twilight is pure entertainment, there is a lot more to it then just a love story with vampries, as i have said many times. Does the emotional turmoil and dark sad pasts of the Cullens not interest you at all? do you not feel sorry for Rosalie and Jasper when you read Eclipse, Edward in new moon and Carlisle and Esme in Twilight? If you don’t think that is deep and emotional, then i think you are slightly heartless. sorry…. Anyways, I do agree HP is mature, I never said it wasn’t. I just think it doesn’t compare to Twilight on an emotional level. And btw Stephanie’s writing may not be as perfect and developed as Rowlings, but at least its more descriptive and deals with real emotion while Rowling focuses purely on plot, which annoys me sometimes. Bye :)

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I think that Twilight and Harry Potter are both two completly diffrent series, therefor they shouldn’t be compared to one another. Twilight is for people looking for a good romance novel, where as Harry Potter takes you on an adventure. I haven’t read the HP series but i love the movies. Twilight fans and HP fans can continue to dispute over a war but the truth is this: THEY ARE BOTH 2 SEPERATE BOOKS and they have DIFFRENT AUTHORS. I am probably one of the many obsessed TEAM EDWARD fans. As for team Jacob well…hes kinda a jerk in my opinion. But anyways people should be allowed to love one character or book more than another. plain and simple. Okay I’m done!!

TwiLiGhT RuLeS!!!!!!!!

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Emma,

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this movie is going to be amazing. robert is perfect to play edward…exactly what i saw in my head…yay!!! kristen will be just as amazing. i think robert and kristen would make a cute couple in real life as well.

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Harry Potter and Twilight are completely different. End of story. Harry Potter Is THE best, sure, but Twilight is also good in it’s own way. I repeat, in it’s OWN way. So stop comparing the two because that’s just stupid. I am both a fan of Twilight and Harry Potter, but for me, I prefer Twilight because I have totally outgrown the Harry Potter series. I used to love it so much whilst I was growing up, and I’ll always love it, but I prefer more grown up, more mature books now. Besides, it’s really refreshing to see another female writer doing so well for herself. Not everyone’s books can become popular with people, so stop slagging Stephanie Meyer and her books. I think it’s good. I mean, I still love J.K Rowling, but for me the excitement for Harry Potter died soon after Deathy Hallows came out because there’s not going to be another Harry Potter book. For people who don’t like Twilight, please be considerate of the views of people who actually do like them. You can criticise them all you want, but please use more gentle tones, don’t just go “Oh, I hate Twilight. It’s so much worse than Harry Potter! Or Twilight sucks!” because I find that kind of insulting and not to mention rude. I don’t mind it if you simply say you don’t like it. That’s fine. But to say that it sucks or that it’s the worse book ever (I have seen those comments on Leaky before, in other postings about Twilight) I find that really hurtful. I love those books just as much as I love HP. Sure, it is’t in the same league as HP, but surely it deserves a little, just a tad bit of respect. Nothing can be as good as HP, but the books can’t go on forever, can they? She’s already said that she’s only doing Seven Potter books and they’re all already out. Besides Leaky reports on Potter actors and their other roles as well, not just the Potter books and the movies, from what I’ve seen.

I respect both Rowling AND Meyer as writers. Nothing wrong with liking two books at once. Anyways, that’s just my opinion. I’m just trying to be respectful of BOTH books and both authors. Feel free to disagree.

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I am soo ecited to see Robert Pattinson in the movie twilight! I’ll admit it I’m one of his all time fan girls!! But unlike some I’m going to succeed with meeting and acting with him! =) I’m only 14 but I am determand to make something of my life and on the way I will make sure I cross paths with him. I love to write and I am writing one piece that I think will be a huge hit! And if they do want to make a movie out of it he is the only one I will allow to play the part. So either way, we’re going to meet!!! lol So just remember this and remember the name Regina Guthrie because you’ll here it again! And if by some small chance Robert Pattinson does read these. I want him to remember that name more then anyone else because I’ll come face to face with him! I promise you all and myself! Dreams come true and I’m going to show that to everyone who has ever doubted me!

Avatar ImagecrazyforSeverus says: I think the main difference between the books is Rowling and Meyer have very different writing styles, and the two series are only compared because they both are both successful fantasy series. I disagree with Robert Pattinson's comparison of Twilight set "in the real world", because so is Harry Potter. He didn't know about magic until his eleventh birthday. Although the story tends to take place mainly at Hogwarts, there is still the reminder of muggles out there, making it set in the real world as much as Twilight. Though Twilight passes off as not having the fantasy of goblins and other creatures as Harry Potter (saying vampire bites are like a disease) Harry Potter still connects to the real world to make it seem possible.

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