Dan Radcliffe Attends BAFTAs in London

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Feb 10, 2008

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As we reported earlier, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix has been nominated for two awards at the British Academy of Film and Television Awards, with recognition in the “Special Visual Effects,” and “Production Design” categories. Those awards were presented tonight in London, England, with actor Dan Radcliffe (Harry Potter) in attendance (shown here with acclaimed actor Daniel Day – Lewis). UPDATE: Dan was set to present an award tonight, and news reports say the “Harry Potter star Radcliffe got one of the biggest cheers of the night from the crowd.” He said: “I’m very excited. I’ve never been to the Bafta’s before. This is great, even better than the Oscars because it’s British. I’m so excited about all these amazing people that turn up.” UPDATE 2: The awards have now been completed, however there is disappointing news, as OotP lost out on both their nominations, with wins going to The Golden Compass for Visual Effects and Atonement for Production Design. UPDATE 3: Thanks to our Order partner DanRadcliffe.com, you can now see video of Dan at the ceremony tonight. You can see more of Dan at this event, as well as nominated actress Julie Christie (Madam Rosmerta) here in our galleries.

The awards are being broadcast in the UK on the BBC, with the US to see the broadcast of the show on cable channel BBC America tonight at 8pm (ET). Actor Jason Isaacs (Lucius Malfoy) is also among those due to attend, as he will be presenting an award. Anyone who can capture video of the ceremony, please send it in!





168 Responses to Dan Radcliffe Attends BAFTAs in London

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Dan looked great. Is he that short…or is that other Dan just that tall?..lol

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cool I love both Daniel Day Lewis and Daniel Radcliffe, both very good british actors. And Jason will be there too- cool hes such a handsome hottie, Lucky Helen she gets to play his wife! extemely eager for more HBP news! and PICS!!!

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aww he looks so adorable

Em daniel is about 5’6 or 5’7 from what all his biography say so i dont no if u would consdier that short i kinda do but his acting and his eyes(faints) totally make up 4 it!

Good Luck to all those nominated

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I don’t like Daniels hair…his hair is the best in POA.He was really cute back then,and he’s cute now,but hair…come on!

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I assume the brilliant Dan Day-Lewis was offered the Voldemort part as he gets offered everything else !

Can you imagine the power he would have brought to that role !

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Wow, I’m tickled it’s on BBC America! I’ll be watching and rooting for HP to win!

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okay, I know it will be over by then, but …. lol

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Oooh I wonder why Dan’s there… maybe he’s presenting? And that picture of the two Daniels is quite hilarious, poor Mr Radcliffe looks a little short doesn’t he ;)

I’m not sure if I’ll be watching the BAFTAs or the Grammys tonight… maybe flicking back and forth would be a good idea… :)

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I’m taller than Dan, but I’m willing to “overlook” that because I ADORE this guy. He has a wonderful sense of humor and that just does it for me.

LUV YA Dan!

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OMG my two favorites Daniels together!!! Both look great, our Dan has become a very handsome young man. I really like his hair. In the pics from Gloucerster filming it is combed different because he is playing Harry so he is in character, and it looked great for Harry, and it’s very good too. And yes, Daniel Day-Lewis is a very very tall man, and he is very very thin too, he is not very proporcional. I don’t know if he was asked to play Voldemort, but he is one of the few important British actors who are not in the HP movies. I don’t know what role he could play in the last movie…

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Alfonso Cuaron was also presenting an award (adapted screenplay).

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Oh my!, Dan looks good…and cute…and shorty… Sorry, I just couldn’t resist :)

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I’m very happy Dan got one of the biggest cheers of the night! It’s incredible it’s the first time he attends the Baftas, I remember previous years other HP actors attended and I guess he was busy filming. I hope he has a great time.

Aw roonwit I would love to see a pic of Dan and Alfonso, I haven’t seen him together since PoA times! I know Cuaron attended several HP premieres after that but there were not pics.

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Daniel Day Lewis comes off rather poorly compared to young Dan and compared to how he used to look. It’s depressing how old he looks- he was beautiful when he was younger. On the other hand, i hope he never goes for cosmetic surgery like Robert redford and other male stars have done-they , like the women , just look so weird or unnatural.

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DDL + Daniel Radcliffe= best thing ever <3

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I’m sorry to tell you all Julie Christie has not win the Bafta for best actress, Marion Cotillard won it, I’ve heard she is great so I’m happy for her too.

And I have to say our Dan is the best, you know how they show interviews from the red carpet and they always ask what are they wearing. Well, all the actors were acting so big headed answering very famous and expensive designers. Then they asked Dan and he answered: “a shirt, a jacket and some trousers”. I love the way he said that, Dan has a great sense of humor. After watching that my wife has become a fan of him. Btw, radcakesfan I agree with you, my wife told me Alan Rickman has done some surgery on his face… and I was looking at Julie Christie, she is older and looks fantastic without any surgery.

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Daniel Day-Lewis would make a formidable Fenrir Greyback. Too bad he is likely cut from the movies :(

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Hahh loved the bit at the beginning when Dan said something to the effect of “Hello, and welcome to the BAFTAs.”

I was like ‘HI DAN’ to my tv screen xD.

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Awwww, the little fella. :D

And Daniel Day-Lewis is about 6’2”, so, yeah, he towers over our Dan.

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Dan is presenting the Michael Balkan award for services to the British film industry, which I think it is very appropiate for him to present because Daniel is one of the people who has done the greatest services to the British film industry with the HP movies. Giving him to present this award is a way to recognize that too. Brendan, Greyback will be in HBP but other actor was casted. Daniel Day-Lewis won the Bafta for best actor, but I agree with radcakesfan about his looks.

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The award Dan was presenting went to the props manager who has worked on the HP films amongst others.

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Perhaps Daniel Day-Lewis could play one of the Gaunts, or Riddle Sr.?

Dan looks so cute!

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Keith, get out, no way did Alan Rickman get work on his face…did he? I am so totally shocked by that. I can see a hollywood actor doing that, but a brit?

I’m told Dan was sitting front row, too! That’s so cool, that’s like priveleged! Can anyone tell me who else had front row seats? I’d have said it was to draw viewers but that’s the creme de la creme of the acting world there! Mind you, those were all small indies that havent’ done as well in the box office and they do say the amount of money the movies make do have an effect on the viewership of htese award shows.

Thanks Nathan for telling us what award Dan was presenting. I thought that might be the one.

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Its not finished, its live! its still on bbc1. also daniel radcliffe – -—CORRRR!LOL

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Daniel D is 6’2” and Dan is 5’6” ro 5’7” so yeah..is like beeb stading with a basketball player…that due is too tall!! Dan looks so good and very well dress,

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Nothing against Gary Oldman, but I’ll insist until the day I die that Daniel Day-Lewis would have been the perfect Sirius Black. This picture is just killing me.

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Sorry i take it back. It went to news at 10pm for 20minutes but obviously they carried on the baftas, and we have a 20minute delay. because all sites are saying it has finished. I can’t believe OOTP didnt win anything!

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It is not live, you can already see the winners in some news sites. Dan looked great and he was very sweet, he is sitting front row. OotP didn’t win, I didn’t like The Golden Compass, I can’t believe they won the best Visual Effects award… And yeah, none of the HP trio is very tall. Oops, and Atonement won the other one… :S

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There’s a video on the sun.co.uk website, and Jason Isaacs can be seen on that, partly in a bit and then again at the very end!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article299857.ece

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Dan is such a great actor and Daniel Day-Lewis as well. Good to see them together! Go on Dan and Daniel!

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“OMG…i’ve never realized how short Daniel was. He’s like slightly large midget.

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Dan is taller than me, and I’m not a midget. This shortism is ridiculous.

And as for Daniel D-L, lovely when he was younger, but he didn’t gain much weight over the years and looks a bit ragged to me. As brilliant as ever, though.

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So wait, who did Dan present an award too? Sorry if it’s already been said somewhere, but I can’t seem to find this info :S

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(SPOILER here for those not wanting to know who won what for the BIG prize) I’d have liked it to win Visual Effects, but the standard wasn’t as consistent as the Golden Compass. And I’m pleased Atonement won Best Production Design as it was excellent too. And it won best film deservedly! :)

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Amy, the one who won the award was Barry Wilkinson for his outstanding contribution for British film industry, he has worked in the HP movies too. So in a way, someone related with the HP movies won. Daniel Day-Lewis mentioned Dan in his speech, how cool is that? :D He said somehing like “my kids will take me seriously now that I’ve been taken a photo with Dan”. I think he could have played Sirius or Voldemort or any other character, he is so good. So I know hwat you mean, but Gary and Ralph do a great job so we can not really complain. Maybe they give him a role in the last movie, if they would have included the Gaunts…

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Yaaaaayy!! Dan! I love both of them. But I’m really really upset that OOTP didn’t win atleast one of those awards. I mean seriously, NO ONE even went to see the Golden Compass and from what I saw the visual effects weren’t that great. Nothing can top that battle scene in the ministry as far as I’m concerned. And I saw Atonement and Stuart Craig’s production on OOTP was way better. I mean seriously! And i completely agree with Dan about the Baftas being better than the Oscars because the stupid Oscars didn’t even give OOTP one nomination, so they SUCK!

But anyways, I wonder if I get that channel that the Baftas is coming on? The Grammys comes on tonight too, but I think I would rather watch the Baftas and the red carpet show for the Baftas is going to be on E! at 7pm tomorrow night, so hopefully I will get to see DAN!

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Oh, there’s some funny remarks made about dan here in the Sun

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article786384.ece

I can’t wait to see this with my own eyes, and i love that remark made by Daniel day Lewis!

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Celia, it is supposed to be shown by the CBC (Canadian broadcasting channel) in canada so if you get that channel, you can see Dan there! Whoo hoo! Of course there’s Youtube- should be showing up anytime now…

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How can OotP now win? Gosh.

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How can OotP not win? Gosh.

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DDL (in full Gangs of New York lunatic mode) could be Morfin Gaunt. Or (cleaned up) Scrimgeour. Or (half and half) RAB. ;)

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Wow! Dan Rad is really a big superstar now. He sat in the front row. And was mentioned at least two times by the presenters and winners. He also dazzled at the red carpet too. That joke of “jacket, tie and shoes” was hilarious. Serves that commentator right. Putting on designer clothes for events like this really puts the pressure on celebrities. That was a gentle sarcasm from Dan.

BTW, I heard that Dan comitted some error while he was presenting. Can anyone tell me what it is? He looks very gorgeous anyway but so short compared to Day Lewis. lol

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It’s possible that Dan was down front because he was a presenter. I think I saw Orlando down front too.

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chelsea what was the error? cause i thought he looked adorable up there lol but ur totally rite in the fact that hes a superstar im just happy and proud that he hasnt let it go to his head

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o wait never mind i found the error! sorry lol he was congrats him and he miss read the audio lol adorable though he just carried on like nothing happened awwww omg can any1 b more perfect

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Wow!! He looks good!! Sad OotP lost out though, but the pictures make up for it.

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To those who are commenting about Dan’s hair, I agree. It was best in POA and GOF. The cut he is sporting nowadays (which we were first unfortunate enough to gaze upon in OOTP), is revolting in comparison.

I can only assume it was done to make it easier to maintain, but for goodness sake, grow it out again Dan. Bring back the old hair for Deathly Hallows. _

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Aw, that’s a shame that OOtP didn’t win but I bet the other two films were really good as well (I still need to see them).

Dan is a lot taller than I am; I bet I would come up to Daniel Day Lewis’s elbow or something, hehe. ;)

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hi i am a big fan of harry potter and the fifth movie of harry potter is brillant and great to see.

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Is anyone listening to Radio 1 at the minute? They have a clip of Dan from the BAFTAs, it’s absolutely HILARIOUS, he’s talking so fast that he makes no sense whatsoever because he’s really excited!

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On the topic of hair – as some of us Snape fans have been commenting in other threads, it’s great to see that his new wig is longer for HBP! :)

As for Harry, I know some of you like it short, but I would say that around 90% of the fans commenting in HP forums, etc., hate it short. Here’s something I found “explaining” the yukky short hair. It makes no sense at all – long hair makes him look boyish?? Uh, Sirius, Dumbledore, Lucius, & Snape, etc., have long hair, & none of them look boyish to me!!!! With that attitude, it’s a miracle that Snape now has longer hair – I sure hope no one ever decides that Snape’s hair should be shorter!!!!!


Source: Newsweek, 2nd October 2006

Colin Jamison, hair designer in the Harry Potter movies, comments on Harry’s new look for the fifth installment:

Meanwhile, girls around the globe will note in these exclusive first-look photos of "Phoenix" that Radcliffe, 17, has short hair again after growing his locks for the last film.
"The longer hair made him look boyish," says the film's hair designer, Colin Jamison. "We needed to progress him in age. He's older now, and looks more handsome with the shorter hair."
Radcliffe is happy to be done with the mop, too. "It looks great at the end of the fourth film, with sweat and blood matted into it, but we can't have every scene like that," he says, laughing. "And I like to imagine that Harry went home over the summer, angry, and chopped into it himself."
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So this Colin Jamison is the reason Dan looks like a nerd in OotP. The character’s hair is not short. Did he even read the book?

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i loved how dan looked at the awards show. he is cute, charming and shorty in front of dan-day lewis

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Dan looks as cute as ever, tho a littled peaked. Maybe they’re working him too hard?

Daniel day Lewis looks awfully like book-Snape to me, a curtain of dark, greasy hair. Agree with the writer who said he’d be great as Greyback!

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awwww, I have to say it. So cute, so teensy next to DDL!

but you know, as someone who saw Equus, I agree with one of the Equus reviewers who described Dan’s frame as ‘diminutive but perfectly formed’! :D

haha Keith, I’ve just read your post about Dan’s response to what he was wearing. That’s priceless!

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Hi Rachel – yeah, dumb, isn’t it? All the boys had shorter hair in OotP – GOF had a different hair designer, “obviously.” LOL HBP has a different hair person also, but for some reason they decided to keep Harry’s hair short – someone must have gotten into Snape’s potions! LOL

And why should a hair designer (or even a director) get to decide what a character looks like? Especially when they’ve looked a certain way in 4 previous films & their appearance is clearly described in the books the films are based on?? JKR obviously likes long hair – that’s why her fantasy world is full of wizards with long hair!

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On the hair thing, I too preferred POA out of all of them, much more like I imagine in the books. I wasn’t at all keen on GOF. I don’t think Harry’s hair is necessarily meant to be long (except in DH when it is described as shoulder length), it’s just messy. The designers should still have been able to make his hair messy for the films. That can’t be so difficult can it?

I do hope they give him the rugged ‘sleeping rough’ look, stubble and long hair for the DH film.

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Omg i watched the BAFTA’s last night and LMFAO Daniel Radcliffe’s speach when he was presenting an award to Michael Balkan was utterly terrible, he’s the worst actor in the world, he can’t even read a speach from a monitor without sounding stupid! and he’s so odd looking now! My mum was laughing at him and all lol. And Daniel-Day Lewis slagged him when he got his award haha it was great, saying his kids wouldn’t take him seriously anymore after being in pictures with Daniel Radcliffe. Speaking of Daniel Day-Lewis, omg i really want to see “There will be Blood” now, it looks amazing, Daniel Day-lewis and Pual Dano are such good actors! like amazing! Anyways, Dan Radcliffe has totally ruinied the Harry Potter books for me coz of his terrible, terrible acting. I’m actually angry at the producers for keeping Daniel, they should have replaced him after Prisoner of Azkaban. If Deathly Hallows is ruined by Daniels acting i may have to kill someone lol. I will also have to kill someone if Mike Newell or David Yates directs Deathly Hallows coz they were crap directors and Yates left out sooo much and there was not character development in OOTP! BRING BACK ALFOSO CUORAN, He’s the best director ever!!! He presented an award at the Bafta’s last night too and I nearly jumped up and down with joy when he came on stage. My mum thought i was crazy haha i was like pointing at the tv going “OH MY GOD ITS ALFONSO CUARAN!!! BEST DIRECTOR EVER!! haha

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Anne: Thanks for saying that POA was the best and more like the books then any of the other films. I 100% agree, I love Alfonso Cuaron, he’s by far the best HP director. Although i dissagree on the hair thing. They ruined Harry’s hair and Nevilles hair in OOTP. Their hair was the best in POA. Why did Mike Newell have a sudden urge to make everyone grow their hair. It was really weird. Like every single male character had longer hair in GOF, Harry, Neville, the twins, Ron. It was totally mad! Altough Harry’s hair must be shoulder legnth for DH or it’ll ruin the illusion that they were camping for months. But Dan Radcliffe would look creepy with shoulder length hair, i mean he’s already short, long hair would make him look like a dwarf lol.

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Kerrie, take your ritalin, please. No need to be nasty, by the way. I think you misunderstood what Day-Lewis said…what a surprise.

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Okey dokey, wasn’t trying to be nasty just giving my opinion. I’ve never seen December boys or Equus so maybe Dan Radcliffe is a good actor in them i dont know, but in Harry Potter and My Boy Jack in my opinon he was truely awfull. You can understand how someone would be annoyed if their favorite books were ruinied by bad movies right? Oh well…just my opinion, i know a few people who think OOTP is great but the majority of people i know think it was dissapointing.

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Whatever your intent was, you sounded nasty. Please reread your comments.

Opinions are wonderful, but I think they should be based on something other than how a person feels at a given moment. Of course, everyone has a right to one, blah, blah, blah.

I totally disagree with your assessment of OOTP and My Boy Jack, by the way. There’s my opinion, and it’s based on what I felt were convincing performances. And many of the people I know, who are adults and not squeeing teens or Dan R. fanatics, thought the same way.

I don’t agree that the HP movies are “bad.” Flawed, maybe, but not bad. Know what? That opinion was not based on the length of anyone’s hair either.

However, we do agree on POA (Cuaron, at least) and Day-Lewis. So that’s something!

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Kellie DDLs statement meant that his boys WOULD take him seriously now that he had been photographed with Dan. So not a dig at all.

Yes POA is my favourite film, both as a film and as far as Dan’s hair is concerned (which is all I was saying really). But I think Dan has come a long long way in his acting with each HP film he has done and I agree with bebe, adults that I know of tend to rate Dan highly as an actor.

I also agree with bebe’s assessment of My Boy Jack. I thought it was great, and Dan gave John Kipling such a humanity in a matter of only a few minutes and made the death scene so heartrending that the grief afterwards was all the more believable. It felt as a viewer that I had lost a son/brother too. That’s great acting. I think the majority of reviewers of the film thought the same way if you check imdb.

I’ve seen Equus too. Enough has already been said about how good Dan was in that. In fact that, underlined by My Boy Jack are the reason why Dan is taken seriously by his fellow actors now.

In those two productions he is nothing like Harry, nor is he like himself and that’s pretty impressive going for an 18 year old.

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Indeed BEBE Cuaron and Day-Lewis rock! Have you seen Children of Men? its like sooo good lol. And have you had a chance to see “There will be Blood” i’m dying to see it. I love Paul Dano too! Talk about amazing acting! Anyways,I dunno, from all the Harry Potter films and the speaches at awards he gives, i just don’t think Daniel Radcliffe is full of talent. Thats just my personal opinion. I’ve never really beleived Dan was the Harry I know from the books when he’s on-screen. Harry’s meant to be this toruted soul with a scarcastic bitter sense of humour and when they try and portray that on-screen it just comes out really badly. When he tries to act angry I end up laughing (no offence) because its just so fake. You have to agree that Daniel is not playing the Harry we know from the books, Its not all his fault though, i’m sure. The scripts aren’t geat either so that makes an actor seem worse then they really are. And i’m a big enough person to admit that he has gotten better in the last couple of years but still…i still ended up laughing in OOTP when he was angry at Ron. I just pray to God the script and acting are better for Deathly Hallows because i could not bare it if that movie was ruined, it would be a travesty. They need to take more actual dialogue from the books instead of making up their own lines. Even if Daniel Radcliffe is an ok actor there are a million other actors who could do a better job i’m sure, would you not agree that keeping Daniel on for all 7 films was a bad idea? He was ok in the first 3 but (to me) after that it was like…eh no more please.

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Oh g! How tall is Daniel Day Lewis??? How short is Daniel Radcliffe???! (nice air though..) And how extremely gorgeous is Julie Christie ??!

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Anne: I have seen My Boy Jack and i swear to God i was so embarrassed for Daniel in that film. The mutache was absolutley terrible looking and i had to change the channel when he was doing the scene where he was talking to one of his men saying that his feet were important, it was sooo awfull. That being said however I thought Daniel did an impressive death scene when he got shot so there ya have it. I think Daniel will be good at the death scene in DH and walking to his death will be good but i don’t hold my breath for the rest of DH, i don’t expect him to be able to pull off the fight with Lupin or the fight with Ron which is a shame because David Thewlis is a fine actor and Rupert is a good enough actor too and is quite good at angry fight scenes (see Driving Lessons for proof) but i don’t think Dan is good at acting angry so those scenes won’t be good in my opinion.

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With respect to Dan, I don’t agree with you on any front, Kerrie. He’s my Harry, sorry. One thing, I don’t understand is why you find his portrayal of anger funny – unless you find adolescent anger funny (which can be the case!!). Also, you contradicted yourself . You say he’s gotten better over the years, but after the first three, you thought he was &?%.

And Anne, you said it well – Dan only had a short time on screen in My Boy Jack, and yet he gave the role a very real humanity. You saw the boy transform into a man (in spite of his visual shortcomings, he made the most of his situation and earned his men’s respect) and so it made the ending that much tougher. The production was excellent too, and the writing top-notch. I also thought he was very good in December Boys; I didn’t see Equus though.

Yes, I have seen Children of Men and I loved it (if you can love something so disturbing) and I thought Y Tu Mama Tambien was brilliant (I hope he comes back for 7). I haven’t seen There will be Blood because I’m afraid it’s going to be overly violent (I need to look into that). In fact, I haven’t seen DDL in anything in quite a while because he doesn’t do many films and what he does do seems uber-violent (Gangs of New York springs to mind). I keep meaning to check out the Ballad of Jack and Rose. But I was hooked on him from the Unbearable Lightness of Being onward and watched the films he made in the 90s. Loved him in In the Name of the Father.

Sorry, I’ve been rambling. I’ve just never liked it when people post things about the young actors’ physical appearance or clothing styles, or their abilities etc.

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erm Kerrie (sorry, I got your name wrong before) you are embarrassed because Dan was wearing a moustache like the real life character he was playing did LOL?? He actually looked more like John Kipling than David Haig did, which is saying something. Seriously, I think you’ve misunderstood the film if you can’t accept a moustache and can’t understand the meaning of the trench foot scene, ie that life in the trenches was horrible and trench foot could result in amputation, hence it was important the soldier looked after his feet. Glad we agree on the death scene. Personally I was awake half the night thinking about it.

I thought the angry at Ron bit (are you talking about the dormitory scene?) was great, just like how I’d expect him to be, snappy. I also really liked the ‘trying not to have a rant’ at Grimmauld Place if that’s the scene you meant. I wish they’d made Harry properly angry like in the book but I thought Dan did that scene really well, sort of gritting his teeth because really he wanted to yell, trying to be grown up and restrained but dying to throw things around.

Your criticism about the humour is the fault of the scriptwriters, who cut ALL of Harry’s sarcasm out of the films (because they want Ron to be the funny one). It’s not that Dan messes up the portrayal, it’s that he isn’t given the chance. Ron is the ‘funny’ one and Harry is the ‘heroic’ one.

Other than that Dan gets the emotionally cut off aspect of Harry just right (incidentally the internalized nature of everything Harry sees and feels in the books is incredibly difficult to get across on screen without altering Harry’s character, if you really think about it). I think Dan does a great job. Anyway, filmmakers can never please everyone especially with a character as iconic as Harry, who everyone is going to have an opinion about, how he should be on screen etc.

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hehe sorry i know i contradicted myself there but its weird… even though Dan’s gotten better at acting i still prefer the first 3 films to the last two films. That probably has to do with the fact that soo much was left out of OOTP, (that really annoyed me) and the cheezy awful dialogue at times. Its like ok people this isn’t a film for 5 year olds haha make it more mature. oh well they won’t be able to get away with that crap in Deathly Hallows. They’ll have to follow the dialogue of the book and not leave anything out in Deathly Hallows because every little thing is important in that book and at times every sentence is important. I really hope they do this movie justice and make it a 4 hour movie with an intermission. OOTP was only 2 hours and 20 mintues!! Thats way too short for a 700 page book!

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Yes Anne i will agree that its not all Dans fault (even though i still think his anger is nothing like Harry’s anger and that is due to his acting ability). The script writers leave so much out that Dan doesn’t really have the proper tools to play Harry correctly e.g. dialogue and script. In the books Harry and Ron are equally funny, but Harry is more bitter and scarcastic about it, this isn’t portrayed at all in the films, which kinda sucks because Harry’s sarcastic bitter humour is like 50% of his character, its what makes him Harry. The other 50% of Harry is him being a stuborn hero who wont’ listen to other peoples advice when he thinks he’s right which to be fair they got that right in OOTP.

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Hello, I dont believe that Dan is the worlds best actor, also sometimes to me his anger seems a little fake. However, as a person he seems kind and unpretentious. I think the casting of Rupert and Emma was brilliant, they capture their characters brilliantly. I personally preferred Dan’s hair longer, although in all honesty he’s not really my cup of tea either way. I think that inevitably people become a little defensive over any negative comments concerning Dan simply because of their attatchment to Harry and their love for the story he’s portraying. Although, I agree, there is no purpose in being nasty.

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Kerrie: if you have the opportunity, go to see Equus on Broadway. Then you will understand all you said doesn’t make sense, if there is someone who can do those angry scenes perfectly well that’s Daniel Radcliffe. I loved My Boy Jack, all the actors including Dan did a great work, and all the critics agree. The film have already been nominated and won several awards. If you can not even understand the moustache is what everyone at that used to have, then you are not watching and understanding the movie in the right way. About OotP, there was only one scene the director and scriptwriter included were Harry was angry, and Dan did it great, it’s not his fault if they cut so much from the book. It’s the scene where he tells DD to look at him, his voice is broken, and that’s really fine acting, it’s a pity some people who has never acted can not understand this. Dan has been able to play many different characters and to play them all very well, that’s a real actor. Someone who has just played two characters in all his life and they were not very different is not an actor yet. Plus, Dan has done theatre, that’s where people show they can act, movies are nothing compared with theatre, in movies the director can cut things and make an actor or actress look good, when maybe that person didn’t even learned 2 full lines at the same time… Movie directors can do the contrary too, they can edit a scene and not show how good was that person in one scene. After seeing Equus and his other movies, it’s obvious HP directors are not using all Dan’s potencial. One of the problems is Kloves is so biased towards others characters, he doesn’t give Harry what a main character deserves.

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Katie, Emma and Rupert only played his characters right in the first movie, after that they are playing two different characters who have nothing to do with Hermione and Ron. Ron is a unsecure person, Rupert never shows that, and Ron’s humor is very different of the stupid faces he puts, that’s not Ron’s kind of humor. He makes Ron looks stupid and sometimes he makes Ron looks “too cool”. Ron is neither of those. Hermione is not a person who cares more about her looks than her studies, and he is not a super power ranger or obssesed with her clothes… which is all Hermione from the movies is. And don’t tell me it is the script or director because they have changed the scriptswriters and directors many times and they still don’t do it right. Daniel have always played his character right, just like the books describe him, with Harry’s good things and with Harry’s defects too, which is something the other actors don’t do, it looks like they always want to make their characters look cool. What I like about Dan is he shows the dark and not so good side of Harry too, not just the good things. And even Jo talked about this after she watched OotP, she said Dan did a great work with Harry’s darker side. In my opinion Daniel is really underrated, he has always been constant since the first movie, doing a good job, and he keeps getting better and better, while all the other actors are changeable and some of them are worse with each new movie. And Radcliffe does all that without the help of the scripts, because they never give Harry many lines, and sometimes they change things so much that if it wasn’t because Daniel does a great work they would destroy the basis of the character. He has carried all the weight of these blockbusters huge movies during half of his life, and he has done it without becoming a little brat or big headed person. I give him a lot of credit for that and also because after all this years he keeps his passion and enthusiams for these books and mvoes. Because when I see interviews with some of the other actors they look bored and like if they didn’t care to be there, and ungrateful for what they have. It’s not easy the work Radcliffe does, he does many more interviews than the rest and he does a great job promoting these movies in all of them, which I can not say about others. So I find it very strbge and ungrateful than some fans don’t appreciate all he does for HP. Maybe some people have not stopped to think that if it wasn’t because of him, maybe HP wouldn’t be a franchise and name than everyone considers healthy, familiar… if it would have been another young actor being the face of all this, it could have been disastrous for HP world.

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For the record, I don’t think I was defensive (she tries to say, non-defensively!). I like Dan; I like all of the kids. Believe me, I don’t go near the posts when there is a story about Emma. I think many of the comments about her are disgraceful.

Anyhoo, I just called out someone for being unnecessarily nasty in her post and she backed off, to her credit. I think it would appear that we’ve agreed to disagree about some things and that’s perfectly civilized.

However, would it be possible, just once in a while, to discuss an actor without resorting to a criticism being one of “his hair is all wrong”? We finally got rid of “the eyes are the wrong colour.” And the pink hoodie has gone into hibernation (for a while).

As for anger, I know my age is really going to show, but I think some younger people find acting anger embarrassing and so they laugh. I remember seeing movies, excellent movies, when I was a teen that featured a lot of anger or grief on the part of young actors and cringing and (worse) giggling in the theatre. I’m thinking of one film in particular. Whenever I’ve watched it since I appreciate how good the actor actually was and how young I was when I saw it. Just a thought….

And Carlos, I’ve heard it said that many an Oscar-winning actor owes the statuette to a good editor! It’s hard to trust what you see on film sometimes.

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Snape, did that feel good to get off your chest? ‘He is not a super power ranger’...what are you talking about? You mentioned Jo talking about Dan well she has also expressed her opinion positively on Rupert too. Although I also do think that in the films Ron is made out to be a bit too stupid. As for Dan’s acting… I havent seen anything else other then the Harry Potter films that he has been in so I have absolutely no opinion on the quality of his acting in anything else. And in certain parts of the HP films I thinks he’s great but in others not so. Also, bebe, Im in my twenties definately not young enough to giggle or cringe when watching an actor act angry (well, most of the time!)

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hehehe, well I will always get defensive over people saying Dan’s a bad actor, because I’ve seen him do things that show he’s a good actor. I mean, I was GOBSMACKED when I first saw him interviewed and saw how different he is from Harry. That’s when I realised he can act. Add to that Alan Strang another very(!!) different character and not a hint of Harry or Dan on stage. I agree with Carlos that Dan’s underrated as an actor and also that some of the fault must lie with the filmmakers who don’t make the most of him.

I also think (and I’ve said over and over and over again …..) that the role of Harry is so large and complicated for a teenager that it just isn’t possible for Dan to have been spot on all the time at the age at which he has been expected to play those particular scenes, all the emotional stuff for instance. A VERY different kettle of fish from even the next biggest teenage parts, Ron and Hermione, who at the moment are just playing teenagers at school and are tiny compared to the part of Harry.

But Dan gets away with his faults less than the other teenagers because he takes up so much screen time. THAT’s why he gets criticized more, THAT’s why he makes more mistakes, and THAT’s why I must always defend him. Sorry, I had to put those ‘that’s’ in caps because the line reminded me of Hermione in PS THAT’s what Snape wants. THAT’s what’s hidden under the trapdoor :)

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Em BEBE, thanks for giving me credit for backing off, i know i went a little overboard lol i’m just really passionate about stuff like that. I feel that my favorite books have been ruined (be it by acting, script writers or directors, who knows, its probably a mixture of all three) so thats why i was so annoyed. Anyway to adress something you said. I’m actually 21 years of age so your comment about young people laughing at Dan’s acting does not make sense, sorry. I laughed because Daniels um…”anger” in OOTP and POA was totally totally fake. most fans HATED the scene in POA where Dan was meant to be angry/crying and says “He was their friend!” because it was terrible acting and it wasn’t real anger or crying. I STILL see people complaining about Daniels acting on forums etc. because of that scene. And in my opinion the scene in OOTP where Harry’s angry at Ron was just as bad. It wasn’t real anger it was just Daniel acting kinda weird. Ok don’t kill me for saying that, thats just the way i saw it. You may see it as real anger but to be honest i don’t think it was. It was the kind of emotion the Harry Potter in the books shows anyway, it felt totally different and fake. ANNE to address your comment, yes the part of Harry Potter is complicated but as i said in a previous comment he can be broken down in to 2 or 3 personality treats: his bitter sarcastic humour, his stuborness and em…i can’t really think of anything else lol. Harry Potter shouldn’t be that difficult a role to play if you read the books so i don’t know why Daniel’s “Harry” is so different from the book Harry.

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Kerrie: I understand that sometimes a movie can ruin a book. And I am sorry for you. For me the first two movies were the ‘illustrations’ for the books. I think the other movies are ok too. I hadn’t expected them to be able to compare in greatness to the books. Movies are adaptions, after all. Then again, it’s hard to ban certain movie images from your mind, when you are re-reading the books. Maybe my memory for movies isn’t too great, because it doesn’t bother me so much most of the time.

Anyway if you dislike the movies this much, and you don’t want to run this risk again, I’m afraid, there is only one solution: don’t watch any of the HP movies anymore. Stick to the books. I am not saying this to spite you or anything. I mean this as a friendly advise, because it’s simply the only way. And maybe you can wait until someone whose opinion you trust, gives you the ’’all-clear’’ but seeing your views, I doubt that will happen. Good luck though. And happy re-re-re-re-reading the books (maybe it will help if you focus on JKR’s exact descriptions).

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Kerrie, you might want to consider rewatching that video of DDL accepting the award. Your comprehension of that simple scene was so off, no wonder you have problems.

Dan got right kudos for My Boy Jack, Equus and especially the last HP. His Harry has always been more subdued as his character would be, and in the last movie, his anger was toned down because so many people hated CAPSLOCK Harry. This was unfortunate, as I would have loved to have seen that room-wrecking scene.

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RADCAKESFAN: I obliged and watched the DDL clip again, and I don’t have a problem, you are very wrong i’m afriad, the comment he made about Dan Radcliffe is 100% sarcastic. Yes he was being serious when he said his children would take him more seriously because he was photographed with Daniel Radcliffe but he was also saying it in such a sarcastic tone that he was obviously implying that adults don’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously, only children take Daniel Radcliffe seriously. So maybe you should watch the clip again because you obviously didn’t hear the sarcasm in his voice. And yes everyone has said that Equss is brilliant and dan is brilliant in it, but i have never seen it so i don’t know that. As for OOTP, i’m not even going to respond to that comment because you already know how i feel about how disspointing that movie was. Except for the twins, i love that they got lots of screen time in OOTP (even though they were meant to anyway so i don’t know why i’m praising that haha) Hey there TARANA: Yes i think i may stick to the books for now, i’m not looking foward to HBP movie at all, but i still really want Deathly Hallows to be good ya know? its my fave book in the series and i’d hate to see it ruined by bad acting, bad script or bad directing. I really hope Alfonso comes back, he knew what he was doing to be accurate to the books don’t ya think?

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My comment about the anger thing still stands, Kerrie. It’s an observation based on experience with young people. I wasn’t necessarily directing it at you, as I have no idea how old you are.

I still don’t agree with you on anything you’ve said about Dan, though. I find there are a handful of people who drone on on various boards about “he was their friend” as if it is still relevant and as if they’re the majority. They’re not. Most moviegoers do not waste their time on comment boards…. And no, I don’t agree with your comment about OOTP. You seem to pick one tiny scene and dwell on it. The twins, eh? Don’t get me wrong – I love the characters, and the boys do fine with what they have, but that’s it. As an example, watch the scene where their hands are being carved into during detention. It’s not convincing “pain,” imo. All that means is that they don’t have much range, but it’s hardly the end of the world. Not to dwell on a scene or anything :).

While I share your views on Cuaron, there were LOADS of people who didn’t think he got the books at all. I think he cut the dross, and captured the heart of the story. What do you think he’ll do with DH? He’ll have to cut it, even if they make two films out of it (remember he talked them out of a two-part GOF, so….). I don’t want a scene by scene run down – that would be the opposite of a filmic cinematic rendering, don’t you think? So, I’m sorry. Again, I think you’re contradicting yourself (you wanted everything left in, remember? I don’t think we can have both with Alfonso.)

Whatever, Kerrie. The books are fun, but not the greatest books in the history of English literature (imo) and the movies are fun, but they’re not the greatest pieces of film in existence.

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“Daniel Radcliffe but he was also saying it in such a sarcastic tone that he was obviously implying that adults don’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously, only children take Daniel Radcliffe seriously”

I´m sorry Kerrie. But that just the dumbest thing I´ve ever read …What on earth makes you think that “only children takes Daniel Radcliffe seriously”...?

I´m 42 myself (hardly a child) and I take Dan VERY seriously. And I know for a fact that Radcakesfan is an adult too…Infact MANY of Dan fans are adults.

What you think of him as an actor is completly (spell????) up to you…But please DO NOT asume that “only children takes him seriously”

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“And Daniel-Day Lewis slagged him when he got his award haha it was great, saying his kids wouldn’t take him seriously anymore after being in pictures with Daniel Radcliffe”

Go sharpen your listening skils my dear, cause you’re bias is showing. Day Lewis said his children might not take the Bafta best actor award seriously but since he just had a picture taken with Dan Rad, then his children might take him seriously now. It was all a joke. Part of the modest speech making of winners since time imemorial. That Lewis included Dan in his speech is a tribute to Dan’s superstar status. That he could be more important than that award is an indication of Radcliffe’s place in that BAFTA award. He was just a presenter but he was given the star treatment. After Equus, his reputation in the British acting community jumped up. It benefited HP too since it gave a previously children’s film, a touch of grown up atmosphere.

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Agree with Sonja. Kerrie, I suppose it’s how you take it. First off, it’s a joke as kids typically do not take their parents seriously or respectfully . He was commenting on that his kids would look a heck of lot more favorably on him as he had proof of a bunch of pictures with our Dan. I took it as a nod to Dan’s popularity and influence – reflected in all those lists Dan is making it in. You will note he was sat in the front row- not a place for anybody but an A-liste, that’s where they seat big names. He was sat 2 rows in front of Daniel Day Lewis himself,and in front of Julie Christie, something they all must have noticed, including DDL himself. I was stunned that they had him up front, thrilled but stunned. And yes, i would say there are a lot of adults that take Dan seriously, including Dan Eldon’s mother who wants our Dan to portray him in the story of his life/death.

As for your opinion of Cuaron, yes he was sooo good he totally f'd up the marauders storyline and totally lost the "emotional potential" that POA had, making Hermione the Pink power ranger.  Keep him away, i say.
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Chelsea, Radcakesfan and Sonja: I think you three need to watch the clip of again, yes i quoted DDL wrong the first time, sorry: his EXACT words where “my kids will really take me seriously now after seeing me in a photo with Daniel Radcliffe” But did you not hear the scarcasm in his voice? He was totally taking the piss! If you guys don’t relaise that, you obviously don’t understand scarcasm. me mum and my brother laughed when he said that because it was an obvious joke implying that he doesn’t himself ACTUALLY take Daniel Radcliffe seriously. It was obvious thats what he meant. I didn’t mean that all adults dont’ take Daniel Radcliffe seriously, thats just how i feel about it. But from DDL’’s speach i don’t think he himself taks Radcliffe seriously. He was obviously making a joke at Radcliffe’s expense. It was typical British humour. RADCAKESFAN: As for your comment on Alfonso and POA, i won’t even dignify that with a response, if you didn’t like POA then i pity you, it was by far the best HP movie and 200% better then any of the others. It was the only one true to the books and no Alfonso did not screw up the marauders storyline, he just left out Lupins speach about being a marauder, which was not important because Lupin had already told Harry he was good friends with his parents and he knew exactly how to work the map and knew all about it when he took it from Harry. No offence but sometimes you have to use your brain, you cant have every little thing handed to you on a plate in a movie based on a book, you have to acutally think and piece stuff together sometimes. Alfonso had already spent like 30 minutes of the film on the last couple of chapters of the book, he could not have possibly made the Shreiking Shack scene any longer, people would have gotten bored. He knew what he was doing, Alfonso is by far the best HP director and an artistic genious, Children of Men and Prisoner of Azkaban are two of the best films i have ever seen in my whole life and probably always will be.

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“It was obvious thats what he meant”

Kerrie: It is also obvious that it is only obvious to you. The rest of the world who saw the BAFTA ceremony seem not to think so. If they did, you can bet that it would be all over the tabloids now. If they can write about a small thing like Dan not wanting to go to the beach., they surely can write that DDL slagged Dan Radcliffe. I mean, that would be HUGE news! Much more juicy than Britney’s latest binge. lol.

And if you can hear in your biased ears the sarcasm, then what are you implying? THat Lewis was slighted to be seated two rows behind Dan? That Dan was given the better star treatment than him? That Dan is very popular and is a bigger star than him? YOu obviously don’t gve DDL enough credit. He is one of the most respected actors and one of the best actors of our time. He wouldn’t be crass enough and insecure enough to diss a younger, more popular actor in front of the world! DDL and Dan Rad met earlier and even exchanged jokes. That meeting was what he was referring to. And that reference to Dan’s pic with him is nothing more than an attempt to be modest about his win. Of course Dan’s pic cannot be more important than the BAFTA Best actor award, But I see that as a joke not the sarcasm you desperately want it to be.

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Chelsea you missunderstand me. I LOVE Daniel Day-Lewis, he’s such a good actor!! And I’m Irish so i love him even more then other countries would because he starred in one of Ireland’s biggest and most important films “My Left Foot” I think the fact that he made a joke about Daniel Radcliffe is hilarious! He has a good sense of humour. We will have to agree to dissagree on weather he was making fun of Radcliffe or not, i think he was and you think he wasn’t. But to be fair, if DDL was making fun of Radcliffe, (which i’m postitive he was) it would not be in the news/magazines anyway, people like DDL too much to give out about what he says. He can get away with telling a few jokes, even if they are making fun of someone. The press aren’t going to slag an icon like DDL just because he made a small remark about a fellow actor.

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At the end of the day Chealsea, Radcakesfan and Sonja: i’ve listened to the speach a few times and DDL implied that his CHILDREN would take him seriously now, because maybe they’re big fans of Harry Potter of something but I also beleive the sarcastic tone implied that he meant there are a lot of people who don’t take Dan Radcliffe seriously, thats why the joke was funny. If everyone took Dan Radcliffe seriously then that joke would not have been funny, it would have been a pointless comment, He was comparing the fact that he’s a serious dramatic actor and Daniel Radcliffe is kinda just known for Harry Potter (don’t kill me for saying that i know Equus was billiant but kids aren’t allowed to see that) He was comparing the fact that Radcliffe’s fans are mostly kids and teens while he won the award for best actor. Thats why the joke was funny, if thats now what he meant what did he mean Chealsea? If thats not what he meant, then why was the whole audience laughing and why didn’t the camera show Dan Radcliffes face. Probably because Dan was NOT laughing.

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I’m going have to cut in here and just say that Kerrie – you seem to have some distorted views. Not just about humour, but Daniel Day Lewis and Daniel Radcliffe. Firstly, the comments you have made to imply that Day Lewis would be the type of person to ridicule anyone, let alone a young actor, are akin to slander. Day Lewis is a very modest person, something that can be seen in the lifestyle and artistic choices he has made in his career (he moved to Italy for several years and became a cobbler after he won an Oscar!). So to say that he would take the piss is just some pathetic and biased viewpoint you have decided to take. I find it difficult to believe from your comments, and general views expressed, that you have the maturity levels of anyone above 13 years old.

If you want to focus on what Day Lewis said, then you will see that his comments weren’t ridiculing anybody, what he was saying was that in his children’s eyes (who are obviously very important to him), his winning a Bafta is completely irrelevant, but him meeting Daniel Radcliffe is the coolest thing ever. What this shows is that Daniel Day Lewis would rather make his children happy than win the awards, but that he is thankful anyway.

But perhaps you do not have the humility that Day Lewis obviously has. And as to it being your “irish homour” – I think that is very insulting to Irish people – and that coming from a British person that “gets sarcasm” I think Day Lewis wasn’t going for that angle.

As to POA – great film, I loved that and OOTP – and was quite glad they left out so much from Order as the book was bloated. If you don’t like the films, don’t watch them. Personally I’m glad that the films deviate from the books as they go along, they have become better and better and this keeps the series fresh.

I’m sure, Kerrie, that you will just contradict all I’ve said now with further childish comments.

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Miriam: I think its rather rude to call my views distorted and my comments childish and you are being a hypocrit because by calling me childish you yourself are being childish. I was only getting a bit angry in reply to other comments from people totally ganging up on me. My original first comment was fun and harmless, just me giving my opinion. I honestly thought DDL was making a little fun of Daniel Radcliffe. Why is that a big deal? If he was making fun of Radcliffe then he was only doing it very very slightly so it wasn’t a big deal. I have explained that I love DDL and respect him as an actor and a person. I wasn’t saying “no he shouldn’t say that” i acutally thought the joke was funny and made me think “hey DDL has a funny sense of humour” Why is this offending so many people? I am praising DDL, not judging him. Yes I agree that DDL was speaking through his chidrens eyes saying that a Bafta means nothing to them and Harry Potter means a lot to them, but for the adults in the audience i think the joke meant more then that, meaning that Harry Potter’s only for children and also implying that Daniel Radcliffe is only known for Harry Potter ….yes you may see this a big stretch but thats the way I saw the joke. And i think the audience saw it that way too because they were all laughing. DDL saying that his kids think Harry Potter is cooler then a Bafta isn’t really that funny and would not have gotten that amount of laughter in the audience, but hey thats just my opinion and i think the reason they were laughing because it was a hidden dig at Harry Potter… I think its immature of you to get involved in someone elses disscussion by the way Miriam. I should not have justify my sense of humour to anyone and its totally unfair that lots of people have ganged up on me. I happen to like a British sense of humour. I’m Irish and watch a lot of British television because Irish tv is basically crap so as a result I think I read more into DDL joke then you guys did. I analysed it more, thats all. Just because i saw the joke differently doesn’t mean everyone can gang up on me. Whats the point of expressing my opinion when people judge you for it eh?

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hmm, Kerrie, DDL is not hte nasty sort I don’t think. Anyway pics of him and Dan together show they really hit it off.

Also from the Telegraph today. So now we know why Dan had trouble with the autocue.

‘A few technical hitches gave the event a sense of amateurish charm – or a knees-up at a brewery. The sound system faltered at the Royal Opera House and presenters struggled to read the autocue because it was too far away.’

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Kerrie – you are making presumptions not only about Daniel Day Lewis but also the whole of the audience at the Baftas and not to mention my own sense of homour. Now, I am British, but I would never say that I “get” something more than someone else because of my nationality – which you seem to be implying.

I am not ganging up against you, you just don’t seem to realise that you are teh only one that has interpreted the comments in that way – and I think that actually says a lot more about you than it does about Daniel Day Lewis or Daniel Radcliffe or indeed the Bafta audience.

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Sorry to intrude on anyones converstaion here but I have no idea why people are getting so worked up over kerrie’s opinion. Even if DDL was taking the p* out of Dan (and I am not saying he was) so what? It was harmless banter and no indication that DDL doesnt respect Dan as an actor or anything like that. I do believe that DDL was being modest but I can understand why people could read more into the joke. But either way he was JOKING, it was a light hearted comment, not meant to be so taken seriously.

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Miriam: I wasn’t saying British humour was better or smarter then another countries humour Miriam, You have just implied that. I meant that British sense of humour is different, it depends on the way you look at things.

I’m not making presumptions about anyone and for the last time, I LIKE Daniel Day-Lewis (I have not said anything bad about him and you guys on this forum seem to think I hate him when I all i said was that he was hilarious). I was only stating how I saw the joke, if you didn’t see it that way, so what, theres no reason to judge me for saying what i thought. I honestly don’t care anymore how you guys saw the joke, it doesn’t matter to me anymore. I was only saying how i saw it. I’m not going to try and explain the joke again because you guys don’t seem to want to listen to another persons point of view. For a person who doesn’t like Harry Potter and finds it childish or who doesn’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously that joke had deeper meaning (well to me it did anyway). You guys don’t want to see that because you love Daniel Radcliffe right? Well i’m afraid to say that i don’t love Daniel Radcliffe so thats why I found the joke extra funny. NOW do you understand where I am coming from? I cannot explain my point of view any more then that. I don’t think DDL meant any offence to Daniel, it was just a harmless joke that I found deeper meaning in because I find Daniel Radcliffe’s acting irritating and annoying.

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THANK YOU SOOO MUCH KATIE, YOU ROCK! I totally agree. Who cares if DDL was making fun of Dan! Even if he was, it was a just a casual joke, not meant to cause offence.

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No problem. It seems that by making a negative comment about Dan Radcliffe people take it personally for some reason. He’s an actor everybody’s bound to have an opinion on his acting if they have seen him in anything, which is why awards shows, such as the Oscars etc, exist.

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Indeed Katie: I relaise this is a Harry Potter fansite but that does not automatically mean that everyone here likes Dan Radliffe. I know loads of HP fans that don’t like Daniel as an actor in the HP movies but they still LOVE the books and they still watch the movies anyway. I see Miriam has not replied to my last comment to her so hopefully she now see’s where i am coming from. It took me a long time to explain what i was trying to say but i finally got it out lol.

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fyi – just because people stopped responding doesn’t mean they agree.

peace out…

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Agree with bebe.. I can only imagine if kerrie’s reading comprehension was as poor as her interpretation of a televised scene, that she must surely have failed . I also know if anyone had made similar remarks about grint or Emma, their fans would have jumped up as well so katie, your remarks aren’t exactly restricted to Danfans.

As for kerrie, we are all already aware it was a joke, only it wasn’t a joke in the meanspirited way you seem to think it was. He wasn’t slagging Dan at all; it was a fantastic sound byte. (BBC world was running that bit when showing DDL’s win, by the way). It was made in the same nature Emma Thompson used when she said she punished her daughter by declaring she “would not give her Daniel Radcliffe’s phone number” . He clarifies his remark :

” But having his picture taken with Radcliffe was at least as important to the actor, who explained that it was the photo, not the award, that would give him street cred with his two young sons. “Are you kidding me? They are going to take me very seriously in the house when they see that photograph,” he said, adding that his sons think he works in construction because he takes so much time off between films and does construction projects. “

We also don’t think you hate DDL, but you certainly insult him if you think he would say such a negative thing in public. (you fail at comprehension again). It is obvious you hate Dan, though. Your first statement made that pretty clear. Incidentally, considering newscasters make errors reading the teleprompter all the time and they read it all the time, the fact that Dan and others made an error is hardly indicative of his/their talent. Indeed, considering how well he recovered shows how quick he is.

As for your comment on POA, it was the shortest of all the HP movies, and many non readers had no understanding of how Lupin knew how to operate the map. It is also the movie that made the least, by the way. Apparently lots of fans didn’t bother to go back to see it.

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Radcakesfan I am aware that my comments arent just restricted to Dan however since we were talking about Dan….And you have just proven my point exactly. Kerrie in no way said that she hated Dan. She doesnt like his acting and finds him annoying. I guess you have also ‘failed at comprehension’. I am also not a huge fan of Dan’s acting, yet in no way whatsoever do I hate him. I actually like him as a person. As for the fact that POA took the least amount of money, so what? Is it wrong to prefer that movie to the others then? No. Whether you meant to or not (and I think you did) your comments came across as really patronising.

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Again, thanks for the support KATIE RADCAKESFAN: I am fully aware that POA did not make as much movie but artistic movies never do to be honest. Alfonso Curan in my opinion is a artistic genius and was the only director to get the balance between humour and darkess totally right. POA was dark and funny at the same time and thats why a lot of HP fans like POA the best. True HP fans understand where Alfonso Cuaron was coming from as a director. And myself and my friends actually saw it twice in the cinema and in all honestly I sometimes actually prefer the POA movie the actual book. Thats how good it is, and no offence but i know loads of people who feel the same way. And if you didn’t understand the Lupin/Map/Marauders thing maybe you should watch the movie again and pay close attention. Lupin states he was James and Lilly’s friend and when he takes the map from Harry he talks about it like he knew everything about it, it was very clear. Lupin did not have to state the obvious and say “I was a marauder, i wrote the map” because it was already implied by the way he was acting. And as soon as Lupin and Sirius hug and then gang up on Peter is totally obvious that the four of them where school friends and Peter betrayed them. And as iIalready said, Alfonso could not have possibly made the shreiking shack scene any longer by putting Lupin’s speach in, the audience would have gotten totally bored. “For a person who doesn’t like Harry Potter and finds it childish or who doesn’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously that joke had deeper meaning” I’m sure DDL wasn’t actually trying to slag Radcliffe but through the eyes of non HP and non Radcliffe fans, thats probably how they saw it. Thats all I’m saying. You don’t see it that way because you like Radcliffe and take him seriously and thats fine. Its nice that you like Daniel Radcliffe but that doesn’t mean everyone else has to. For people who don’t like HP or Radcliffe that joke was extra funny ok? just accept it.

As for DDL I shall repeat my explaination YET AGAIN because you don't seem to be listening:
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Sorry I’m gonna post the comment again a few of the lines got jumbled up: Again, thanks for the support KATIE, RADCAKESFAN: I am fully aware that POA did not make as much movie but artistic movies never do to be honest. Alfonso Curan in my opinion is a artistic genius and was the only director to get the balance between humour and darkess totally right. POA was dark and funny at the same time and thats why a lot of HP fans like POA the best. True HP fans understand where Alfonso Cuaron was coming from as a director. And myself and my friends actually saw it twice in the cinema and in all honestly I sometimes actually prefer the POA movie the actual book. Thats how good it is, and no offence but i know loads of people who feel the same way. And if you didn’t understand the Lupin/Map/Marauders thing maybe you should watch the movie again and pay close attention. Lupin states he was James and Lilly’s friend and when he takes the map from Harry he talks about it like he knew everything about it, it was very clear. Lupin did not have to state the obvious and say “I was a marauder, i wrote the map” because it was already implied by the way he was acting. And as soon as Lupin and Sirius hug and then gang up on Peter is totally obvious that the four of them where school friends and Peter betrayed them. And as i Ialready said, Alfonso could not have possibly made the shreiking shack scene any longer by putting Lupin’s speach in, the audience would have gotten totally bored. As for DDL I shall repeat my explaination YET AGAIN because you don’t seem to be listening: “For a person who doesn’t like Harry Potter and finds it childish or who doesn’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously that joke had deeper meaning” I’m sure DDL wasn’t actually trying to slag Radcliffe but through the eyes of non HP and non Radcliffe fans, thats probably how they saw it. Thats all I’m saying. You don’t see it that way because you like Radcliffe and take him seriously and thats fine. Its nice that you like Daniel Radcliffe but that doesn’t mean everyone else has to. For people who don’t like HP or Radcliffe that joke was extra funny ok? just accept it. And also, i was not being negatice about DDL becasuse even if he was trying to slag Radcliffe (which i don’t think he was trying to) the joke was funny and harmless, the only person who might have taken offence would be Dan himself. (oh and you of course for some reason)

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Eh i kind of agree with Kerrie to be honest, some of you are over-reacting to this joke thing. Does anyone really care if DDL was slagging Dan Racliffe a little, as Kerrie said, it was a harmless funny joke. And i agree that people who don’t like Harry Potter and Dan Radcliffe would most likely find the joke funnier then people who love Harry Potter and Dan. And I also think Prisoner of Azkaban very much the best HP movie. It was the only one with creativity and originality, the others were just following the book (and not well might i add) but POA clearly came from a man who has a creative artistic mind. It was refreshingly different from the other movies, had more darkness and more humour to it. Its the only HP film that really made me laugh out loud but also creeped me out a little too. Thats what Harry Potters all about really aint it? You don’t seem to listening to Kerrie’s point of view Radcakesfan. She’s repeated her argument several times and you still refuse to accept that she could be right. I’m not saying if either of you are right btw I just think Kerrie has presented her argument very diplomatically, she has explained several times that DDL wasn’t trying to be rude but you don’t seem to have listened to that.

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whilst I haven’t particularly taken offence at any of Kerrie’s arguments at all, as she seems to have been good spirited with them, and that is why I entered into the discussion with her in a (I hope) friendly way,

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whilst I can see what Emma is saying about overreactions, I still want to make this point.

radcakesfan and others who are suggesting that Kerrie has misread the DDL thing are not overreacting from a Dan perspective. It IS a big deal how such a statement is interpreted, because it would say MAJOR negative things about DDL himself, more than anyone else, and so that is why people find it difficult to imagine how someone COULD interpret such a statement as a sarcastic one. No professional in DDL’s position (as an extremely highly respected actor), would get up in front of hundreds of people and millions of viewers and present such a statement as a sarcastic comment about a young 18 year old actor at the very start of his career. They just wouldn’t, period. And the photos shown of the two Dans when they are talking together show in DDL a kind of paternal fondness that make it impossible for me to read anything but good into that statement.

The whole media world seems to have interpreted DDLs statement in the same friendly way that most of us have (radcakesfan’s explanation using Emma Thompson’s quote is a really good one, and can also be backed up by interviews with Michael Gambon, Gary Oldman, David Thewlis, who have said similar ‘street cred with kids’ things about HP in general). The media would CERTAINLY have commented if there was any suggestion that it was meant in an unfriendly way (especially considering it was said about the most famous teenager on the planet who the media love to slip into every article they possibly can).

To be ‘funny sarcasm’, it needs to be in a friendly environment, and this kind of environment is completely the opposite. There is no way it was meant sarcastically.

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To Kerrie – the reason I didn’t respond to your comment is because I actually haven’t been at my computer.

Someone above said that we ought to be taking your views into account and agreeing with you… Why? Your interpretation of the joke that DDL made is not in keeping what the majority of people have taken from it – including myself.

It’s not about being a fan of either of the Daniels or HP – it’s the fact that you first make flippant insulting remarks and then stubbornly repeat them by belittling anyone else’s responses.

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Thank you very much Emma for your support and Anne, I appreciate your point of view and I hope you appreciate mine. I dissagree though about the comment being a big deal. Its not really a big deal, DDL can kind of get away with whatever he wants, he’s such a respected actor and icon that i don’t think anyone would care if he made a little fun of a fellow actor. Sure Its all in the name of comedy, look at Jonathan Ross (the man who presented the BAFTA’s), he slags people for a living and no-one gives out about him. To suggest that the media would slander and give out about DDL for saying such a small comment about a fellow actor is in my opinion ridiculous. No-one would care. Even if he was actually trying to slag Radcliffe it was such a small remark its not worth getting upset over so I think people are over-reacting. In fact with the actual comment itself, I thought DDL was more making fun of Harry Potter, not Daniel as an actor. When i first saw the clip i thought he was comparing the fact that he’s such a big serious actor who wins BAFTA’s and Dan Radcliffe is still doing a children’s series and thats why me and my brother found it so funny. But i don’t beleive thats what he meant to do. Its just the way me and my brother saw it because we cannot stand Dan Radcliffe as an actor. I sincerley hope everyone understands what i mean now. Anyway, I am truely tired of this debate, my brain is melted. The comment can be seen in two ways, the way myself, my brother and Emma saw it and the way Anne, Radcakesfan and Miriam saw it and it depends on weather you like Dan Radcliffe or not. Everyone is different, likes different actors, has different senses of humour and sees things differently so for anyone to suggest that everyone should see things the same way is just silly.

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Miriam: Yes i am afraid i am quite stubborn i always have been. sorry nothing i can do about that. But in my defence i had to repeat myself because people would not even try and listen to my point of view, they just dissmissed it saying i was wrong to see the joke like that. People interperate jokes in different ways. I hope you find my last comment a satisfactory explaination. I meant no offence to DDL or Radclife as an actor.

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hmmm…interesting debate. Well I watched the BAFTA’s and I don’t think DDL was slagging Daniel Radcliffe but I can understand why people who hate Harry Potter or don’t think of Daniel Radcliffe as a serious actor would find a hidden meaning in the joke and find it funnier. I don’t like Daniel Radcliffe as an actor at all and I know i certainley laughed because the comment reminded me of how bad Daniel Radcliife’s acting is. I think most people are agreeing with Miriam and Radcakesfan becasue they are Daniel Radcliffe fans. From the prospective of someone who doesn’t like him and thinks he’s a bad actor the joke was pretty dam funny. For the recored. Kerrie took back what she said about DDL slagging Radcliffe, she admitted that DDL was not purposely slagging him but it was just the way she saw the joke. So whats all the fuss about?

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Kerrie – just a friendly reminder: it was you who was trying to get me to agree to things earlier in the thread. We get your point. By the way, it’s “whether” not “weather” as in , “whether you agree or not.”

I do agree with you on this – we don’t all see the remark the same way. And I think that’s great. I responded to you way back in the thread because you were initially being nasty and your arguments in support of your views were weak, imo. I just want people to be better at supporting their opinions. And betters spellers.

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Kerrie, you said

“Even if he was actually trying to slag Radcliffe it was such a small remark its not worth getting upset over “

For the last time, he was NOT trying to slag Radcliffe! Good lord, it’s like talking to a brick wall.

And yes, if he had slagged him the way you obviously think he did, go look up the response Chris Rock got when he DID slag Jude Law at the Oscars. It is STILL talked about and Chris Rock did feel the repercussions and probably still does. You can bet he will never be allowed to host or present for the Oscars again.

The fact that Dan, as HP has more influence on his kids than their own father (who is indeed very well respected in his field) IS funny. Emma, everybody thought it was very amusing, including danfans. I loved it. Only haters would take it in a negative way, so be it. Most people didn’t think DDL was trying to be rude at all, Emma but if you read Kerrie’s initial remarks, that is exactly what she was implying. Incidentally, I think Kerrie mentioned the camera didn’t show Dan’s reaction. That was because he was backstage having his photos taken along with the guy he presented his award to as he presented 16 minutes earlier, according to the Empire Bafta blog.

As for POA, I personally did enjoy it, except for the things they took out, most especially the Marauder background. It was what made the story truly tragic to me, and would have added to the emotional makeup of the whole series. I also saw it multiple times, as dan was very nice to look at lol and also knew the story so the minor thing about the map wasn’t important. It wasn’t just the fact that lupin knew how to use the map that was missing, it was the whole show of Harry and his dad that was missing. And however you feel about it, a lot of people still didn’t go back to see it when you look at the numbers and many were pissed off at what was taken out. Emma, why would I think Kerrie is right when I obviously think she’s wrong? Everybody is entitled to their view, vut it doesn’t make them right. I for example, disagree with the Ku Klux Klan and Nazis and the ultra religious.

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Tanya, thanks for seeing my point of view, thats exactly what i meant. The comment reminded me of all the things i don’t like about Dan Radcliffe so thats why it was extra funny for me. BEBE, nice to hear from you again. I never had a problem with your comments, we had a polite disscussion and you didn’t contradict me rudely like other people on this forum and you gave me credit for backing off which was nice of you. I realise my first comment was very hyper and nasty but i was having a rant, i needed to get it all out. I don’t really remember trying to force my opinons on you though, yes we disscussed Dans acting a lot (anger etc…) but it was just a disscussion I was just expression my opinions and thoughts. I appologise if i tried to force you to agree with but i don’t beleive I did, everyone’s entitled to like whatever actor they want I do not judge people for liking Daniel Radcliffe and i hope people to not judge me for not liking him.

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Radcakesfan: For the last time, I have admitted like a million times DDL was NOT slagging Daniel Radcliffe: Have you been even reading all my posts? I said ” IF ” he was trying. IF was a very important word in that sentence. You are the brick wall, you don’t listen at all i’m afraid. I have been a big enough person to admitt that i am wrong and took back my comment, i explained that it was the way non HP fans and non Radcliffe fans see the joke thats all, not DDL actually slagging Radcliffe. There is a huge difference!

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I can totally see kerrie’s point of view. Radcakesfan I have no idea why you have such a big problem with this. She has said over and over agin that DDL was NOT slagging Radcliffe off, he was joking! And considering I totally dislike Radcliffe as an actor it was amusing. But obviously if your a diehard Radcliffe, which you appear to be, the joke would go totally over your head. You seem unwilling to even entertain the notion that Radcliffe has faults and that if others critise his acting they must be wrong or even hate him! I find that odd and unfortunately I have to tell you I know many, many people who niether think he’s a particually great actor or good looking at all.

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Also using the Nazis or the Klu Klux clan as an example…please we’re talking about Daniel Radcliffe here. Get some perspective.

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HAHAHA! Rebecca, will you marry me? hehe girl i could not have said it any better!! Thank you sooo much! Radcakesfan needs to accept that some people think Dan Radcliffe is a bad actor and that the comment DDL made was very funny for those people, even though DDL was not actually slagging him.

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Cool, Kerrie. I come back here now and then to see how things are going. I have always liked the trio, but I have grown to like Dan the most. My observation of this fandom (well, one observation) is that people tend to be a little defensive of their favourite or overly critical of their least favourite. And things can get a little ugly (as I said earlier, I AVOID posts about Emma).

Still crossing my fingers for Cuaron. To whoever commented about how it made the least amount of money, there was a poster on here, quite a while back, who explained that the amount of money these types of films make is usually based on the one previous. So, many people thought COS was not so great. They were therefore less likely to go to POA, in spite of the rave reviews from critics. However, having heard that it was good (maybe they watched it on DVD), they returned in droves to GOF. This theory of course doesn’t help me understand why anyone went to Pirates of the Carribean 3, but hey, that’s just me :).

Anyway, thought I would share.

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Excellent point BEBE, I totally agree,, just because POA made less money does not mean it was worse. As i said before POA was quite a different style to the rest of the films. it was more artistic and origional and creative so it may not have appealed to everyone, as not everyone is into that sort of thing as it may be to different for them compared to the first two movies. And as you said bebe, maybe people were not excited about POA because maybe they were dissapointed by COS and so they did not bother to go see POA in the cinema. Interesting point, i never actually knew that.

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A few technical hitches gave the event a sense of amateurish charm – or a knees-up at a brewery. The sound system faltered at the Royal Opera House and presenters struggled to read the autocue because it was too far away.’ Posted by anne on February 12, 2008 @ 10:20 AM

Excuses. Dan has a record of screwing up like that in past award rites when he is a presenter. He’s done it too many times to blame it on technical difficulties. What about the other presenters, they didnt look or sound as bad and seem to pulled it off rather well. He’s just really bad at this thing.

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Yea CASEYDOC, he screwed up last year when he presented some award and when he won an award. He just cannot speak to an audience without sounding nervous and screwing up. I feel sorry for the lad. As an actor he should have more confidence then that, I’ve seen him on talk shows and he’s very likeble, hes funny and chatty and doesn’t get embarrassed but at award shows, omg he’s just awfull. i don’t really understand why.

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He’s 18. And my goodness, it wasn’t that big a deal. Anyway, supposedly others had trouble. By the way, Anne didn’t make that up. It came from the paper and was not referring to Radcliffe or anyone in particular. It was about the awards show.

Given the amount of stuff he does live, we could cut him some slack, no?

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Hey bebe why the anger? Did you see the nice comment i left you before? we’re only disscussing. Thats the point Caseydoc is trying to make. I watched the whole BAFTA’s on sunday night and no-one and I mean no-one else seemed to have trouble reading the monitor. No-one else stuttered or sounded arkward. Honest to God I’m not just saying that, everyone else presenting did fine except Dan for some reason. I don’t know why and i don’t assume to know why, it could be for a number of reasons. But even if Dan had trouble reading the monitor or whatever it didn’t just happen this year it happened twice last year aswell. I think I am giving the guy a break he’s really clever and funny in talk show interviews but at award shows….someone just goes wrong for him. Maybe the poor guy can’t handle talking infront of an audience or maybe its just bad look i have no idea but either way, ever single awards show i’ve seen him in, he’s utterly nervous and arkward sounding which is totally strange because he’s fine with interviews.

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I just can’t keep my post lengths down!

It was obvious to me what the problem with Dan’s presentation was. He was MAJORLY nervous. I could tell with his first ‘hello’ and deep breath. It’s because he was trying hard (too hard) to do it right. Because these award presentations are important to the people getting the awards, therefore he’s more nervous than when he’s just giving an interview as himself. It just shows he cares. I have to give talks to groups of strangers in my job and before my first one I had panic attacks for (I’m not kidding) a year beforehand. The more you care about these things, the worse they are to do, and the more nervous you become, the worse you are at talking. It only gets better with experience (I’m not there yet btw so don’t ever attend one of my talks or there’ll be blogs galore discussing how I really ought to know how to do it by now, it being part of my job and all :D).

Incidentally I believe that acting is different; the actor disappears behind a character and so even stammerers can do it (Jim Broadbent being a prime example).

That comment about the sound system and autocue was made by a Telegraph reporter (one of the better UK newspapers) who was present. She did, it seems, notice that several presenters were having difficulties reading the autocue.

I do now see the point about some non-fans reading something into DDLs speech for their own kicks. That’s a reflective kind of interpretation and reflects on you personally. If haters want to get their kicks in that way, that’s fine, but I must say, I tend to go the other way. Even if I think I’ve heard a below the belt remark about someone I dislike, I lose some respect for the person saying it (eg being Ms Cole above). Maybe that’s my age. It’s nothing to do with humour though because I have a very sarcastic sense of humour.

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whoops! I included a reference to something I had cut out to reduce the length! I had referred to Whatshername Cole who said Amy Winehouse didn’t deserve to win those Grammys. I mentioned it as an example of how the media can, and do, and LOVE to, pick up on these slagging off kinds of remarks made by celebrities about other celebrities.

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Hey Kerrie, I wasn’t angry with you. My comment wasn’t directed at you at all, actually.

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Ok Bebe cool ! Happy days. I liked your last comment Anne, thanks for considering my point of view.

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that’s ok :)

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Kerrie: only a Dan hater would read something negative on what Day Lewis said. Everybody took it for the joke that it was EXcept You and other Dan haters like you. JOnathan Ross also “hit” Dan with a joke when he introduced him. He said Dan wanted an 8th HP book enitiled” Harry POtter and the jacuzzi full of models”. Very funny but I bet you would interpret that as an attack on Dan being an oversexed, hormonal teenager. What most of us see as a run of the mill joke, you consider as an indication of Dan’s flaw. YOu are the one making a big deal out of it. I am a Dan fan and I just laughed it off at first. Your incendiary first comments are what turned this message board into another war zone.

BTW, Dan’s “error” was very minor. I din’t even notice until I saw the video again. But I would agree that he was VERy nervous. He was slowly and painstakilngly reading the autocue and almost forgot to breathe. lol. He was fne after he made a joke of it. Much more natural afterwards…

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Wow…Dan make a mistake during his speach????...I didn´t even notice that. I was too busy looking at this handsome, intelligent, sexy young man

I´m taking about Dan BTW

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Again it seems that if you dislike Dan as an actor you must be a ‘hater’ or by disagreeing with those people who are so totally blind to Dan’s faults you are turning this message board into a ‘war zone’. The only negative people on here are those who insist on insulting people’s attitudes just because they disagree with them. Dan’s been acting since he was 11 I think somehow he should have been able to manage an auto cue. His profession is acting and people are perfectly entitled to critisise his chosen profession, just like you would if you got a crap electrician in. As for his age being an excuse, he is nearly 19 for gods sake! There are many good young actors out there. And can you get off the topic of DDL joking please. Read what kerrie has previously wrote. Its just her interpretation and she has managed to see both points of view, unlike those of you out there who refuse to accept or even listen to any critisicm of Radcliffe. ‘Wow..Dan made a mistake during his speech????’ Seriously get real, anyone with an ounce of intelligence would have noticed that, yes, he did make a mistake during his speech but obviously you were too fixated on his ‘handsome’ and ‘sexy’ face. Hmmmm….yeah right. Again this is just another example of people or ‘dan fans’ deluding themselves.

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Dan is soooooooo hot except that he is sooooo SHOXT….(I can’t say that word out, too cruel). But one thing for sure, is that the whole Britain does recognise his contribution to the filming industry, and also promoting British culture and literature to the globe. I’m not quite happy with the result. How COULD Golden Compass possibly beaten Harry Potter, Spidey and dear old Jack??? Also, I do think Stuard Craig deserves that award, cuz how many people in the world can actually make something imaginary into real, and most incredibly, able to convince the others that they are real and believe in them? But whatever the result is, he is still one of the best production designer in the world to me. BRAVO Stuard!

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I am in no-way a Dan hater Jasmine, I do not claim to hate anybody I have never met. I think he’s a funny, chatty, smart guy but I personally do not like him as an actor. In my opinion he was not born with the “acting bug” so to speak and i feel that he is not good for the role of Harry Potter, Thats all. I have nothing against him regards his personality. That is just be opinion and I’m sure many people dissagree with me which is perfectly fine. As i said before, I would never try to get people to stop liking Dan as an actor just because i don’t like him. Everyone is different, and likes different actos for different reasons i guess. There are some actors i’ve seen who are great in some movies but crap in other movies and some actors who are good all the time etc… It depends on your taste in movies and tv. I have already explained why i found the joke funny so i’m not going to do that again haha its just a waste of time.

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“There are some actors i’ve seen who are great in some movies but crap in other movies and some actors who are good all the time etc”

That is very true. And don’t forget stage too; that’s a totally different discipline that a lot of movie actors can’t do to save their lives. Now, that’s a niche that Dan has found works for him.

Rebecca, reading an autocue is not the same as acting and I doubt that Dan has ever had to do it in all of his acting jobs. Newscasting and presenting are different skills entirely. Now, if Dan had learned the speech like a script and just spoke it, he would have been better, though he might still have been nervous. Perhaps you people should try it yourselves some day. I’ve seen newscasters even, who’s job it actually is, screw it up. Peter Sissons for example I could never bear to watch. At the end of the day, Dan was chosen to do a presentation because of who he is and that is a great honour for him.

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Your right anne reading an autocue is not the same as acting. However, I dont think that reading an autocue in front of people or reading a script in front of people (which he would have had to do at auditions) are worlds apart. You say it was a geat honour for Dan to have been chosen to do a presentation, and I agree, yet considering this you would have thought he would have done his best. Which I am sure he did, but his best wasnt actually that great. Now your right I havent tried presenting myself so maybe I shouldnt critise, yet if I employed a painter to paint a portrait of me and it ended up looking nothing like me I certainly would critisise him. Yet I cant paint at all. Its called having an opinion.

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Rebecca, 19 IS young in my book! Wow! How could you possibly think it’s old?! Most actors who are at the beginnings of making a proper name for themselves (as opposed to being child actors in good stuff or acting in crappy teenage stuff) are in their mid 20s. Even Billie Piper, who I still consider to be young. I don’t know of any teenager who is regarded a ‘serious’ actor. That’s why people talk all the time about transition from child to adult actor. The HP lot are at that transition stage. Dan surprised people in Equus, because everyone else who has played that part has been in their 20s because it is so difficult; they were surprised he managed to pull it off at all, let alone as well as he did.

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I agree with both of you Rebecca and Anne, I think that reading an autoque is very different then acting and of course we cannot judge Dan for being nervous. However, he’s been acting half of his life and he should have more confidence then that i think. He has presented awards before over the last couple of years so he should be used to it by now. He has not shown any improvement in presenting an award on front of an audience i’m afraid. He has always been nervous and arkward. Its a shame really, i’d like him more as an actor and take him more seriously if he didn’t make mistakes like that. It seems to me (in my opinion) that the the reason why he’s bad at presenting awards is probably the same reason i find him a bad actor. He’s just not cut out for it. Thats just my opinon don’t kill me lol. I’m sure he’s brilliant in Equus and as you said Anne, perhaps stagework like Equus is more for him compared to movies.

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Rebecca that’s your opinion, which is fine, but my opinion is I still don’t think it’s fair to equate what Dan had to do there with his job as an actor and suggest he should therefore be able to do it. For auditioning, I believe there’s more to it than just reading off a script, you must still have to become a different person to prove you can do the part. Dan got his part in Equus because the Playwright saw his audition and liked the way he ‘played the character’, so he was evidently doing something more than just reading lines. I said earlier that acting is hiding behind a character and even stammerers have been known to do it. As an example let me just say that I could do a presentation if it just involved reading off a page but I can’t act to save my life. Different skills in my opinion.

Anyway, my opinion is that he was nervous, and that to me shows that he cared too much, so all credit to him for caring. Perhaps he shouldn’t try so hard and then his natural humour would come out.

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yes, Kerrie, I think that Dan is cut out to be a stage actor, which I’m sure would be disappointing to all his movie watching fans. A number of reviewers, some on the Equus comments boards, said the same. But maybe there are also movies that he will be cut out for too, because there are different styles of acting, even in movies. It’s a case of him trying out a lot of different things, which is obviously what he’s trying to do.

The point is, though you all say ‘he’s been doing it for years’ in fact the type of acting he’s been doing (until recently) is limited to HP. He didn’t go to drama school, which is where he would get to try a lot of things out and find his niche, so he, like all his HP co-stars, will have to do the ‘trying out’ in actual acting jobs over the next 10 years or so. I believe it will take that long for them to make their mark. It’s a shame some people expect them to ‘make it’ immediately. Some acting projects will work, some won’t. We can criticize them but it would be fairer to say, he wasn’t so good in this, but he was good in that. Of course, it all depends on what you’ve seen of his work.

Personally, I have grown to be very impressed with Dan, even in HP (I didn’t used to be by the way, I used to be a Rupert fan) so I don’t share your opinion about his acting. But I was still surprised at him in Equus because I admit to having doubts. So I’m glad I went.

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Okay, anne dont put words in my mouth, I never said 19 was old It was my intention to highlight just how many years he has been acting and thus how much experience he has. I agree he was very nervous and I have no problem whatsoever with that. However he was chosen to do his presentation because of who he is, primairily the boy who played Harry Potter. This is a job that has earnt him millions, that he was lucky to get and that others would die for. He should have mastered his nerves better then that, or at least acted less nervous. But he didnt or couldnt. I agree with kerrie he just not that good an actor.

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I agree with both of you Rebecca and Anne, I think that reading an autoque is very different then acting and of course we cannot judge Dan for being nervous. However, he’s been acting half of his life and he should have more confidence then that i think. He has presented awards before over the last couple of years so he should be used to it by now. He has not shown any improvement in presenting an award on front of an audience i’m afraid. He has always been nervous and arkward. Its a shame really, i’d like him more as an actor and take him more seriously if he didn’t make mistakes like that. It seems to me (in my opinion) that the the reason why he’s bad at presenting awards is probably the same reason i find him a bad actor. He’s just not cut out for it. Thats just my opinon don’t kill me lol. I’m sure he’s brilliant in Equus and as you said Anne, perhaps stagework like Equus is more for him compared to movies. But also Anne, yes 19 is young but I can think of many child actors who i find better and more believable then Dan Radcliffe. As i said, he’s been acting for 8 years now so he really should have shown some improvement, which in the Harry Potter movies he has only shown a tiny improvement, Even after 5 movies Dan Radcliffe still does not portray the Harry Potter i know and love from the books. To me, its like he’s playing the role of a completely different Harry.

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arguing about Dan’s speech error now? geez, you people will find any excuse to argue.

Personally, I find Dan’s very obvious nervousness very cute. YOu’d think that, with being a global superstar now and all, Dan Rad would be like those cool, rich, overconfident Holywood stars. But he still seems so boyish and down to earth and fidgety! Rupert is also so down to earth and endearingly shy. Emma tries hard to act like a sexy starlet but stil comes off as an innocent, nerdy miss. Methinks I prefer them to stay their fidgety, shy and unwordly than be those cool, overpaid teens in Hollywood. Thank you very much.

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Yes, true Anne, there are different styles of acting and maybe HP is not for him but I also found him extremely irritating in My Boy Jack. I had to change the channel because i was embarrased for him. It was just so….awful lol. I will just have to take your word for it that he was brilliant in Equus but i have a feeling that i wouldn’t like that either. I just cannot obide him as an actor. I don’t believe he becomes the character he’s playing, all I ever see is someone saying their lines. I can actually see him thinking about what he has to do next. He’s not in the moment. Anyway thats my opinion, take it or leave it hehe. We will have to agree to dissagree.

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We’re not arguing we’re debating. If your not interested why are you reading it Keiko? I was not talking about Dan’s personality, personally yes I also would prefer his personality to stay the same instead of becoming like those ‘cool, overpaid teens in Hollywood’. But do you know what I’d really prefer? Him to be able to act. I like Dan, I like his personality but that and his acting ability are two completely seperate issues. I dont think it that by becoming a better actor his personality would change.

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Kerrie and Rebecca, we will just have to agree to disagree about how good Dan is as an actor and in HP, as I have always been happy with the way he plays the part, even in the early films, and as I said above I have grown to be impressed over the last two years or so.

Just as long as you read my comment just above both of your last ones, which answers the ‘he’s been doing it for years’ criticism :D Then you can see where I’m coming from.

I agree with you Rebecca, it was the reason I returned here just now to add another comment, that Dan was chosen to present the award purely because of who he is and not because he was expected to be good at it. The only presenter in an event like this who is expected to be able to do it is the host. Now Dan had to do all this spiel about why this person deserved the award which is more than just ‘Hello [crisp smile], the nominations for Best Actor are [pause] blah blah … And the winner is [open envelope] blah.’

I have actually enjoyed this discussion because I don’t think it has been nasty like many of the comments threads I have seen in the past.

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and I will add to Kerrie, I loved him in My Boy Jack. I really did. The pince nez scene and the cigarette scene was really funny and the death scene excellent, and he put something into the character so that I really felt he was my brother by the end when he died. But you are entitled to your opinion. At the end of the day different actors have a different personal style and you just don’t like Dan’s style. Like I don’t like the style of, say, Tom Cruise or indeed many of the big shot Hollywood lot, who I find way over the top and unbelievable most of the time.

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Hiya all. I dont want to be mean but I just have to say (and I know Daniel Radcliffe would never read this) I think dan is the worst actor I have ever seen. Like Kerrie said it is SO unbelievable. Me and my mun watched My Boy Jack and I thought the same thing. I just dont get how people can like him as an actor at all, although Im sure he’s a nice person.

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Yes i have also enjoyed this disscussion, we were mature about it not like Radcakesfan who was extremeley stubborn, rude and didn’t listen to what i was trying to say at all. It was honestly like talking to a brick wall. I had to repeat myself so many times and she refused to listen and accept that someone has a different opinion then her, it was incredibly frustrating. Myself and Rebecca seemed to scare her away i think haha. Thank you anne for giving me something to do while i am bored at work haha. Rebecca, you rock! i should get your email so we can disscuss films, tv and actors we like. We probably have a lot in common. Kayley, thanks for your imput, its nice to see some people agree with me.

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I always find it funny how Dan seems to get such a polarity of opinion about his acting skills. There are many people, TV and theatre reviewers, theatre bloggers about Equus, reviewers of My Boy Jack on Amazon and Imdb, who think that he showed talent in both productions; some of them were even surprised to find themselves saying it. I don’t think it has to do with age or whether you fancy him. I’m an older fan myself so I don’t look at Dan as a sex symbol and most of the good reviews I’ve seen (i.e. apart from the ones that are limited to ‘omg he’s so sexy, he’s the best’!) have been from seasoned, adult viewers too.

Anyhoo… that’s enough from me.

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Nope kerrie, t’was work that got in the way. We will have to agree to disagree . You don’t like Dan’s acting and I do , in HP, DB, Equus and MBJ and DC. Actually the thing that bothered me about your comment on DDL was when you said ” EVEN if he was actually trying to slag Dan..” – it’s not the slagging Dan bit that bothers, it’s the “EVEN IF” – that verged on slanderous on DDL.( YOu also said he was such a big actor that no one would care, but the media would certainly have jumped on it as they do.) But so long as you apologized for the DDL thing and realize you were wrong, so be it.

Rebecca, as I have said, people are allowed to have an opinion, but it doesn’t mean one is right. As an example I used the Nazis/kkk, groups whose opinion i disagree with. Sorry, just a quirk. Maybe it’s just me. I don’t have to agree or even like your and kerrie’s opinion, and you don’t have to like or agree with mine or others. Also where do I say Dan is perfect? Don’t put words in my mouth please.

caseydoc- Dan did an excellent job presenting at the evening standard awards when he was 13? and I believe at that theatre writing presentation during the Equus run. He blanked out at that Southbanks award but that was the only other one. He recovered very well on this one.

Couldn’t believe this had gone on so long but I knew as soon as i saw kerrie’s first posting it would be drawn out. I’m done.

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Thank you Radcakesfan for finally admitting that not everyone has to like Dan Radcliife and i hope you realise that DDL’s comment was funnier for people who do not like Dan Radcliffe or Harry Potter as it reminds us of how bad he is to us. I don’t think that DDL was slagging Dan but for people who don’t like Dan or harry potter it may have sounded that way. Hope you have accepted that and moved on. I have certainley moved on. I have gotten lots of support here from other posters so i am certainley not the only person who saw the joke that way. You have gotten support too however so people who like Dan see the joke the way you do. We are two different people who saw the joke differently thats all. I am glad this disscussion could be finished in a diplomatic and polite way. Goodbye.

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Radcakesfan if kerries ‘EVEN IF’ bothered you that much then I seriously suggest you need to lighten up. And I can assure you I have no intention of putting words in your mouth, when did I say you said Radcliffe was ‘perfect’? Oh and kerrie great speaking to you and dont worry loads aof people agree with you. There are many, many people out there who dont believe the sun shines out of Daniel Radcliffe’s backside!!!

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wow! ı like dan

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Rebecca, why do you need to say something like “people who don’t believe the sun shines out of Daniel Radcliffe’s backside”? Are you referring to me? I like him, I’m older, I think he’s good, so are you slagging me? When did I say anything like that? Most of the time, I see these remarks about him that seem really vitriolic, and I don’t bother saying anything because it’s such a waste of time and always seems to emanate from the same three or four people.

Can we just lighten up, everyone? He’s fun, he puts up with Potter fans (that cannot be easy :)) and I think he’s pretty good (lots of people do…I did NOT say EVERYONE). He’s 18, does he have to be Lawrence Olivier?? This is a lot of hoo-haw over absolutely nothing, frankly. Don’t like him? I don’t care. But just don’t insult me. Thanks.

Hello Kerrie, Radcakesfan and Anne. Now, back to my paid employment.

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Bebe: I think that you’ve taken what Rebecca said too personally. In no way was your name mentioned. To me it came across that she was joking and I cant understand how you could have possibly thought she was insulting you? She told Radcakefan to lighten up and you’ve told everyone too as well so I dont see why you say, in reference to Dan, ‘does he have to be Lawrence Oliver?’. It seems that although you guys might disagree over Dan’s acting ability you want the same things. So dont take insult over a comment that I truly dont think was intended to insult you or anyone else.

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Thankyou Kayley, well said. Maybe I shouldnt have said that but it was a throwaway comment not meant to insult. And bebe if you ‘dont care’ over anyone elses opinion of Dan that I really dont think you would of presumed I was directing my comments at you. But anyway, I’ve had enough of this discussion, people take things way to personally and there is no reason to. I’d like to say I admire your dedication to Radcliffe but, really, put your energy and dedication to good use elsewhere. How about Global warming or World Peace for example? lol. Buy guys, once again sorry if I offended you!

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Shoutout to Anne, bebe, miriam, sonja, chelsea, Carlos, snapefan, Keiko, and jasmine, and others, well, thankfully we will get to see Dan a lot because of the other projects he has outside HP , He gives the best interviews , along with Emma and we certainly haven’t seen the end of him as a presenter, talkshows, etc. Going by comments of the reporters , Dan seems to be very well liked and respected . They know he can take the piss and can dish it out himself too (hello JR). I can’t wait to see him in his upcoming projects and see how he adapts to NYC. Go Dan!! whoohooo!

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Oh, Cernal, so do we! * beams *

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Whoohoo, Dan’s in the news again! I love how the media is always using what Dan does in all this stuff, throwing it into the headlines. I mean, really, how many sound bytes did they get out of the Bafta walk? I’d say, – about 8 at least. Now a new mention of his support in renovating an old theatre.

http://www.cumberland-news.co.uk/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=792546

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shoutout too to my fellow Dan fans who can’t let a Dan slagger get away with it. lol. Anyway, those who don’t think Dan’s a good actor are entitled to their opinion. But at the end of the day, it’s the opinion of critics and people with access to media that matters. I’ve seen plenty of them praising Dan for both Equus and MBJ. Fact is, 95% of the reviews for MBJ are positive on Dan. I haven’t seen both so I will rely on their opinions not on the opinions of fans who obviously don’t like Dan no matter what.

And why make a big deal of the speech error? I haven’t seen one tabloid or blogger making fun of Dan’s mistake. Funny how a minor mistake gets magnified in the mind of haters. But hey, maybe I should be proud. They have such high expectations of Dan too. lol

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radcakesfan thanks for the link. Nice to see Dan’s name alongside that of Sir Derek Jacobi, who imo is the best actor alive today, and I hope one day they appear on stage together :)

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OMG you guys are seriously obsessed if anybody who doesnt like Dan is a hater. I think il leave you guys to get on with it. But you really do seem like obsessive fans, its a bit sad really but, hey, I guess its good to have a hobby!lol

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Haha i agree completely Kayle, people here a bit obsessive about Dan. Also RADCAKESFAN, just wondering but have you seen any of the Phelps Twins and Matthew Lewis Interviews, I find them in my opinon to be a lot more entertaining then the TRIO’s. They’re more natural i think (just my opinion). You should look up some interviews on youtube, they’re extremeley entertaining, especially the “Dragon Con Convention 2007” where James, Oliver and Matt are utterly hilarious and had the audience in complete convulsions of laughter. James and Oliver do this cute thing where they say the exact same thing and the exact same time, the whole audience laughed, it was gas. Matt also goes into a fit of laughter when asked which female HP character he would most like to dress up as, I still laugh when i watch that haha. I personally find the TRIO’s interviews to be all the same and not very entertaining, however Dan can be really really funny sometimes. On the Jonathan Ross show he was absolutley hilarious.

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Radcakesfan: “Hear”....”hear”

jasmine: I totally agree with you..I really don´t understand why some are making such a big fuss about the small error…

“Much ado about nothing”...eh

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yes, Kerrie, I like Matt Lewis especially, also the Phelps twins from whay I’ve seen of them. But I was gobsmacked when I saw Dan interviewed on Jonathan Ross, both times, and also Conan O’Brien and Jay Leno and some of those music shows on American tv. He is a natural. I’m sure the other three would be good too if they were on those shows.

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Why is it such a surprise to everyone that Dan Rad is so short? No wonder the poor kid’s got such a complex about it.

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yea I have no doubt that the twins and Matt would be hilarious if they were on Jonathon Ross or Conan O’Brien. Have you seen Dragon Con 2007 Anne? I don’t know about Rupert and Emma though. Rupert is quite a quiet nervous person i think who sometimes repeats himself and says “yea…its really cool” like a million times. I’ve seen Emma on Jay Leno and she did not make me laugh at all I’m afraid while Dan was pretty good. I beleive the twins and Matt would be better then the tro on those shows if they were given the chance too. I think because they are able to live more normal lives then the trio i think Matt and the twins are more at ease and more naturally themselves in interviews compared to the TRIO. They are not half as famous so fame has not affected them the way it has affected the TRIO. I remember the first ever interviews with Rupert, Dan and Emma and Rupert was so chatty, just a normal kid and now the poor guy seems just nervous and repeats his words way to much. I love Rupert by the way don’t take that the wrong way. He seems very down to earth and I think he’s the best actor out of the TRIO, I absolutley adore the film Driving Lessons with him and Julie Walters, they worked so well together. When they have that big fight you could really feel the chemistry between them as actors. Its like “woah!, good acting Rupert!”

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At last, somebody showed her true colors. All that talk of Dan being slagged by Day Lewis and him not being a good actor.BUt underneath all the criticsm is a heart that beats only for Rupert. ROFL. Yah, Rupert is a better speaker, a better actor, a funnier guy, than good old Dan! lol. Talk about underhand tactics…

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sheesh, hayden, like we couldn’t tell! It was fairly obvious.

Kayley, and Rebecca, I guess i could say the same about people insisting it’s okay to put down Dan,huh? Remember what you said on this thread , ‘cuz it therefore applies to others…

Honestly, Dan is the sweetest, funniest, quick thinking down to earth actor in that bunch,( especially as he is the most visible) – and there are a lot of reporters always mentioning that. I know who i like, and he deserves all the fans he has. I loved that comment from that food network blogger who mentioned all the countless dansites that had linked to his? site from that Ace of Cake episode and the 2 other ones. Jas, did you see that, by the way?

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I just flipped through this German mag called “GALA” and found a report about the BAFTA awards in it. It was an entire 5 pages long with hundreds of photos…. but NONE of Dan,... he was not even mentioned in the text… shame! Sometimes Germany is quite behind the moon after all….

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Haha my heart doesn’t beat for Rupert, Hayden although yes i do think he’s a far better actor and probably a more normal down to earth guy then Dan. But Dan is way funnier and a bit better and interviews then Rupert.

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