Kerrie – you are making presumptions not only about Daniel Day Lewis but also the whole of the audience at the Baftas and not to mention my own sense of homour. Now, I am British, but I would never say that I “get” something more than someone else because of my nationality – which you seem to be implying.

I am not ganging up against you, you just don’t seem to realise that you are teh only one that has interpreted the comments in that way – and I think that actually says a lot more about you than it does about Daniel Day Lewis or Daniel Radcliffe or indeed the Bafta audience.

Sorry to intrude on anyones converstaion here but I have no idea why people are getting so worked up over kerrie’s opinion. Even if DDL was taking the p* out of Dan (and I am not saying he was) so what? It was harmless banter and no indication that DDL doesnt respect Dan as an actor or anything like that. I do believe that DDL was being modest but I can understand why people could read more into the joke. But either way he was JOKING, it was a light hearted comment, not meant to be so taken seriously.

Miriam: I wasn’t saying British humour was better or smarter then another countries humour Miriam, You have just implied that. I meant that British sense of humour is different, it depends on the way you look at things.

I’m not making presumptions about anyone and for the last time, I LIKE Daniel Day-Lewis (I have not said anything bad about him and you guys on this forum seem to think I hate him when I all i said was that he was hilarious). I was only stating how I saw the joke, if you didn’t see it that way, so what, theres no reason to judge me for saying what i thought. I honestly don’t care anymore how you guys saw the joke, it doesn’t matter to me anymore. I was only saying how i saw it. I’m not going to try and explain the joke again because you guys don’t seem to want to listen to another persons point of view. For a person who doesn’t like Harry Potter and finds it childish or who doesn’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously that joke had deeper meaning (well to me it did anyway). You guys don’t want to see that because you love Daniel Radcliffe right? Well i’m afraid to say that i don’t love Daniel Radcliffe so thats why I found the joke extra funny. NOW do you understand where I am coming from? I cannot explain my point of view any more then that. I don’t think DDL meant any offence to Daniel, it was just a harmless joke that I found deeper meaning in because I find Daniel Radcliffe’s acting irritating and annoying.

THANK YOU SOOO MUCH KATIE, YOU ROCK! I totally agree. Who cares if DDL was making fun of Dan! Even if he was, it was a just a casual joke, not meant to cause offence.

No problem. It seems that by making a negative comment about Dan Radcliffe people take it personally for some reason. He’s an actor everybody’s bound to have an opinion on his acting if they have seen him in anything, which is why awards shows, such as the Oscars etc, exist.

Indeed Katie: I relaise this is a Harry Potter fansite but that does not automatically mean that everyone here likes Dan Radliffe. I know loads of HP fans that don’t like Daniel as an actor in the HP movies but they still LOVE the books and they still watch the movies anyway. I see Miriam has not replied to my last comment to her so hopefully she now see’s where i am coming from. It took me a long time to explain what i was trying to say but i finally got it out lol.

fyi – just because people stopped responding doesn’t mean they agree.

peace out…

Agree with bebe.. I can only imagine if kerrie’s reading comprehension was as poor as her interpretation of a televised scene, that she must surely have failed . I also know if anyone had made similar remarks about grint or Emma, their fans would have jumped up as well so katie, your remarks aren’t exactly restricted to Danfans.

As for kerrie, we are all already aware it was a joke, only it wasn’t a joke in the meanspirited way you seem to think it was. He wasn’t slagging Dan at all; it was a fantastic sound byte. (BBC world was running that bit when showing DDL’s win, by the way). It was made in the same nature Emma Thompson used when she said she punished her daughter by declaring she “would not give her Daniel Radcliffe’s phone number” . He clarifies his remark :

” But having his picture taken with Radcliffe was at least as important to the actor, who explained that it was the photo, not the award, that would give him street cred with his two young sons. “Are you kidding me? They are going to take me very seriously in the house when they see that photograph,” he said, adding that his sons think he works in construction because he takes so much time off between films and does construction projects. “

We also don’t think you hate DDL, but you certainly insult him if you think he would say such a negative thing in public. (you fail at comprehension again). It is obvious you hate Dan, though. Your first statement made that pretty clear. Incidentally, considering newscasters make errors reading the teleprompter all the time and they read it all the time, the fact that Dan and others made an error is hardly indicative of his/their talent. Indeed, considering how well he recovered shows how quick he is.

As for your comment on POA, it was the shortest of all the HP movies, and many non readers had no understanding of how Lupin knew how to operate the map. It is also the movie that made the least, by the way. Apparently lots of fans didn’t bother to go back to see it.

Radcakesfan I am aware that my comments arent just restricted to Dan however since we were talking about Dan….And you have just proven my point exactly. Kerrie in no way said that she hated Dan. She doesnt like his acting and finds him annoying. I guess you have also ‘failed at comprehension’. I am also not a huge fan of Dan’s acting, yet in no way whatsoever do I hate him. I actually like him as a person. As for the fact that POA took the least amount of money, so what? Is it wrong to prefer that movie to the others then? No. Whether you meant to or not (and I think you did) your comments came across as really patronising.

Again, thanks for the support KATIE RADCAKESFAN: I am fully aware that POA did not make as much movie but artistic movies never do to be honest. Alfonso Curan in my opinion is a artistic genius and was the only director to get the balance between humour and darkess totally right. POA was dark and funny at the same time and thats why a lot of HP fans like POA the best. True HP fans understand where Alfonso Cuaron was coming from as a director. And myself and my friends actually saw it twice in the cinema and in all honestly I sometimes actually prefer the POA movie the actual book. Thats how good it is, and no offence but i know loads of people who feel the same way. And if you didn’t understand the Lupin/Map/Marauders thing maybe you should watch the movie again and pay close attention. Lupin states he was James and Lilly’s friend and when he takes the map from Harry he talks about it like he knew everything about it, it was very clear. Lupin did not have to state the obvious and say “I was a marauder, i wrote the map” because it was already implied by the way he was acting. And as soon as Lupin and Sirius hug and then gang up on Peter is totally obvious that the four of them where school friends and Peter betrayed them. And as iIalready said, Alfonso could not have possibly made the shreiking shack scene any longer by putting Lupin’s speach in, the audience would have gotten totally bored. “For a person who doesn’t like Harry Potter and finds it childish or who doesn’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously that joke had deeper meaning” I’m sure DDL wasn’t actually trying to slag Radcliffe but through the eyes of non HP and non Radcliffe fans, thats probably how they saw it. Thats all I’m saying. You don’t see it that way because you like Radcliffe and take him seriously and thats fine. Its nice that you like Daniel Radcliffe but that doesn’t mean everyone else has to. For people who don’t like HP or Radcliffe that joke was extra funny ok? just accept it.

As for DDL I shall repeat my explaination YET AGAIN because you don't seem to be listening:

Sorry I’m gonna post the comment again a few of the lines got jumbled up: Again, thanks for the support KATIE, RADCAKESFAN: I am fully aware that POA did not make as much movie but artistic movies never do to be honest. Alfonso Curan in my opinion is a artistic genius and was the only director to get the balance between humour and darkess totally right. POA was dark and funny at the same time and thats why a lot of HP fans like POA the best. True HP fans understand where Alfonso Cuaron was coming from as a director. And myself and my friends actually saw it twice in the cinema and in all honestly I sometimes actually prefer the POA movie the actual book. Thats how good it is, and no offence but i know loads of people who feel the same way. And if you didn’t understand the Lupin/Map/Marauders thing maybe you should watch the movie again and pay close attention. Lupin states he was James and Lilly’s friend and when he takes the map from Harry he talks about it like he knew everything about it, it was very clear. Lupin did not have to state the obvious and say “I was a marauder, i wrote the map” because it was already implied by the way he was acting. And as soon as Lupin and Sirius hug and then gang up on Peter is totally obvious that the four of them where school friends and Peter betrayed them. And as i Ialready said, Alfonso could not have possibly made the shreiking shack scene any longer by putting Lupin’s speach in, the audience would have gotten totally bored. As for DDL I shall repeat my explaination YET AGAIN because you don’t seem to be listening: “For a person who doesn’t like Harry Potter and finds it childish or who doesn’t take Daniel Radcliffe seriously that joke had deeper meaning” I’m sure DDL wasn’t actually trying to slag Radcliffe but through the eyes of non HP and non Radcliffe fans, thats probably how they saw it. Thats all I’m saying. You don’t see it that way because you like Radcliffe and take him seriously and thats fine. Its nice that you like Daniel Radcliffe but that doesn’t mean everyone else has to. For people who don’t like HP or Radcliffe that joke was extra funny ok? just accept it. And also, i was not being negatice about DDL becasuse even if he was trying to slag Radcliffe (which i don’t think he was trying to) the joke was funny and harmless, the only person who might have taken offence would be Dan himself. (oh and you of course for some reason)

Eh i kind of agree with Kerrie to be honest, some of you are over-reacting to this joke thing. Does anyone really care if DDL was slagging Dan Racliffe a little, as Kerrie said, it was a harmless funny joke. And i agree that people who don’t like Harry Potter and Dan Radcliffe would most likely find the joke funnier then people who love Harry Potter and Dan. And I also think Prisoner of Azkaban very much the best HP movie. It was the only one with creativity and originality, the others were just following the book (and not well might i add) but POA clearly came from a man who has a creative artistic mind. It was refreshingly different from the other movies, had more darkness and more humour to it. Its the only HP film that really made me laugh out loud but also creeped me out a little too. Thats what Harry Potters all about really aint it? You don’t seem to listening to Kerrie’s point of view Radcakesfan. She’s repeated her argument several times and you still refuse to accept that she could be right. I’m not saying if either of you are right btw I just think Kerrie has presented her argument very diplomatically, she has explained several times that DDL wasn’t trying to be rude but you don’t seem to have listened to that.

whilst I haven’t particularly taken offence at any of Kerrie’s arguments at all, as she seems to have been good spirited with them, and that is why I entered into the discussion with her in a (I hope) friendly way,

and,

whilst I can see what Emma is saying about overreactions, I still want to make this point.

radcakesfan and others who are suggesting that Kerrie has misread the DDL thing are not overreacting from a Dan perspective. It IS a big deal how such a statement is interpreted, because it would say MAJOR negative things about DDL himself, more than anyone else, and so that is why people find it difficult to imagine how someone COULD interpret such a statement as a sarcastic one. No professional in DDL’s position (as an extremely highly respected actor), would get up in front of hundreds of people and millions of viewers and present such a statement as a sarcastic comment about a young 18 year old actor at the very start of his career. They just wouldn’t, period. And the photos shown of the two Dans when they are talking together show in DDL a kind of paternal fondness that make it impossible for me to read anything but good into that statement.

The whole media world seems to have interpreted DDLs statement in the same friendly way that most of us have (radcakesfan’s explanation using Emma Thompson’s quote is a really good one, and can also be backed up by interviews with Michael Gambon, Gary Oldman, David Thewlis, who have said similar ‘street cred with kids’ things about HP in general). The media would CERTAINLY have commented if there was any suggestion that it was meant in an unfriendly way (especially considering it was said about the most famous teenager on the planet who the media love to slip into every article they possibly can).

To be ‘funny sarcasm’, it needs to be in a friendly environment, and this kind of environment is completely the opposite. There is no way it was meant sarcastically.

To Kerrie – the reason I didn’t respond to your comment is because I actually haven’t been at my computer.

Someone above said that we ought to be taking your views into account and agreeing with you… Why? Your interpretation of the joke that DDL made is not in keeping what the majority of people have taken from it – including myself.

It’s not about being a fan of either of the Daniels or HP – it’s the fact that you first make flippant insulting remarks and then stubbornly repeat them by belittling anyone else’s responses.

Thank you very much Emma for your support and Anne, I appreciate your point of view and I hope you appreciate mine. I dissagree though about the comment being a big deal. Its not really a big deal, DDL can kind of get away with whatever he wants, he’s such a respected actor and icon that i don’t think anyone would care if he made a little fun of a fellow actor. Sure Its all in the name of comedy, look at Jonathan Ross (the man who presented the BAFTA’s), he slags people for a living and no-one gives out about him. To suggest that the media would slander and give out about DDL for saying such a small comment about a fellow actor is in my opinion ridiculous. No-one would care. Even if he was actually trying to slag Radcliffe it was such a small remark its not worth getting upset over so I think people are over-reacting. In fact with the actual comment itself, I thought DDL was more making fun of Harry Potter, not Daniel as an actor. When i first saw the clip i thought he was comparing the fact that he’s such a big serious actor who wins BAFTA’s and Dan Radcliffe is still doing a children’s series and thats why me and my brother found it so funny. But i don’t beleive thats what he meant to do. Its just the way me and my brother saw it because we cannot stand Dan Radcliffe as an actor. I sincerley hope everyone understands what i mean now. Anyway, I am truely tired of this debate, my brain is melted. The comment can be seen in two ways, the way myself, my brother and Emma saw it and the way Anne, Radcakesfan and Miriam saw it and it depends on weather you like Dan Radcliffe or not. Everyone is different, likes different actors, has different senses of humour and sees things differently so for anyone to suggest that everyone should see things the same way is just silly.