I’m sure I heard in the past, that Kloves works on set, while filming is going on. So he’s there to do any changes with the director, producer etc. Which was a reason why he didn’t do OotP. He wanted a break, to do his own thing.

It’s kind of funny. Different people give the same critisism to different movies. POA, GOF and OOTP have all been accused of bad plotting, a chopt up feel, bad characterisations and bad directing. (I wonder who is right?)

I’m changed my mind, I’m going to give my opinion too.

Columbus: The story didn’t flow well, he had no visual style, the camarawork was boring, the acting wasn’t allways that good. I do think he created a stable foundation for the future installments. They shouldn’t bring him back, because it would be a step backwards.

Newell: Chopped up feel, sometimes bad characterisations (example: dumbledore), music not so good (that’s not Newell fault, I know), beautiful visual style, even though I liked that of Cuaron better, because it was less static. And I acuse Newell of not actually liking or understanding the Potter-books that much.

Yates: Has a real passion for the books and there characters, great acting, very subtle, better music than GOF (more whimsical and jazzy), good characterisations, great lighting and visual style, that really fitted the story, a bit too short, still felt a bit chopped up. I’m not sure if he’s good for DH, because I’m not sure if he could give it an epic feel.

There you go, reactions please.

David Yates is going to direct the final HP movie as well? Say it ain’t so!! SAVE DEATHLY HALLOWS!!!

I have enjoyed every HP movie up until the latest. I really felt Yates took a lot of cheap shortcuts in the film and I also thought he did NOT do a good job of directing his actors. He misused a lot of talent and make the film the most schlocky of the entire series. I was bummed to hear that Yates was going to direct Half-Blood Prince, and now he's got his fingers on the last one? There goes my enthusiasm for these movies down the drain... I am really, really not happy to hear this. :-(

Am I in the minority here by wishing that almost anyone but Yates directed the last film? I find OOTP almost unwatchable due to the rapid scene cuts and the amount of info left out . What bugs me the most is that several action sequences are completely omitted or drastically reduced. Who does that in blockbuster fantasy movies?

david did a terrible job on the fifth film so i hope they get a different director!!!!!!!!

Yes, let’s keep the director that cuts all the scenes the fans would love to see, and who belives that no Harry Potter fan is able to sit through a movie that’s longer than two hours. The only director worse for the job would be Spielberg.

I JUST TOTALLY LUUUUUUUUUUUUUV DAVID YATES!!!! LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV LUV DAVID YATES!!!!

I just thought I would compensate for the 4 bashers above me ;)

YES! If it were Alfonso Cuaron or Tim Burton, I would not see the film. But I love what David Yates did with OOtP and can’t wait for HBP.

I hope this is true!

Every opinion is going to be taken as offensive and disrespectful if it is seen as counter to your own. This is the issue with typing, you can’t know the tone of the other person, unless of course they scream at you in caps. It feels like if you’re saying you disliked OOP you are labelled an “extremist” and mean, but if you say you liked it you’re okay, because at least you’re being nice.

So in response to you Beckett, I will say that although I think the actors were dressed and made up well, they spoke clearly sound wise, the scenes were shot wonderfully, and their acting was grande, I personally feel that no matter how wonderful a job the crew did with their tasks, the end product of the OOP moive, that I watched in my local theatre, displeased me greatly.

Now I wouldn’t have wanted to say that everyone on and involved with the entire movie did a bad job with it in my opinion, and so I decided, out of respect for all of those other people who worked on it, to focus on those involved in the final issue of the film that I saw, mainly the director, producers and editors, and many others whose posts I don’t know and thus couldn’t reference, as those who were responsable not for a bad job in my opinion in making the film as a whole, but with the form which it was released in.

No one is trying to attack Mr. Yates personally nor dicredit anyone else’s job on the film, they are simply trying to state, without getting too technical, their opinion about the film that he made, and since most regualr people don’t have the time to make sure they credit everyone who had a part in it in their complaint, they simply choose to name the figurehead of the project as responsable.

Yates, as figurehead, is thus involved in people’s attempt to express that they wish that the director and everyone involved in the filming of HBP will hopefully be able to take their time this time around. And since, I know people will simply talk over this and take it out of context like everything I have said, I’m going to change my mind and say that people probably shouldn’t express their opinions in this kind of forum, since someone always wants to make a fight out of it, and I simply do not have the time.

But I must add, just as a point of fact to you Bella, many of the people on here are in fact teenagers, who, in some cultures (although apparently not so much in America) are considered children. I personally am 26, and I was a child (as in teenager) when HP first came out and I began reading, and whether or not it is for children or ever was is really not the issue here.

If you are a child at heart, I’m glad for you, and I do say that respectfully. I personally came on looking to express my feelings and hear feedback, and found myself, as I aways seem to on here, instantly attacked. Not just by you, but by everyone who felt the opposite, it was like people were coming on to say no, and some simply to say yes to this issue, but others, perhaps more emotionally involved in the matter, began trying to defend Yates as if people were on here conspiring to kill him.

This brings me to my final point, everyone in this particular forum has exhausted everything we can say, and we are all just repeating ourselves to try and make sure that our points aren’t misunderstood. This cannot be done, since someone is always going to take something I or anyone else has said the wrong way. So I move that we all just know that our opinions are our own, value them as our own and move on to the next topic.

So what did everyone think about that Lunar eclipse last night? Pretty cool wasn’t it?

Ugh…Yates did a lousy job with 00TP, this would be terrible news. He’d do Deathly Hallows in one 2 hour movie.

NOOOOOOO! It has to be Cuaron! Yates is too muggle! This is so depressing.

This is my feelings on each movie and why I think Cuaron would be far better than Yates, and also why I would not mind a Yates and Cuaron team, I really think that would be the best and the movie in two films.

1: PoA. I love the way PoA was done. It was the movie that came the closest to having the same feel and tone as the books. The cinematography was right on and it really felt like Hogwarts. It was rich with emotion and action, without overdoing either one. It was the only movie that mirrored J.K.’s sense of whimsical fun and eccentric twists. It also kept true to J.K.’s theme of depth within emotional ties between families, parents and friends. The flow was also very smooth. I’m one of the people who think every HP movie should follow the book exactly, even if it took two movies per book. PoA, like all the rest do not follow the book exactly, but I feel it kept the right stuff, more importantly the FEEL. I also felt the actors were more in character. The music was well done and the Hogwarts uniforms felt more authentic. I also prefer the fair-isle sweater look to the American t-shirt look for the HP movies. I love the English and magical feel. It wasn’t trying to please a muggle audience.

2: OotP. The Weasley exit scene…I loved it. I felt some of the fun was brought back and it was a huge improvement on GoF, and in many ways an excellent job. A little too much Umbridge for me, but once again in fairness, she did such a great job I can see why they went overboard. The Department of Mysteries scene was very well done, but could have made a bigger deal in music and climax when the staff come through the fireplaces and saw Voldemort. The possession part at the end between Dumbledore, Voldemort and Harry was awesome. Overall, I think it was a very good movie. My big complaint is it did not feel like Hogwarts or part of a magical world, it felt like some muggle dorm in a muggle city where magic happens to take place. Too fast, too slick.

3: SS. The first two movies (SS and CoS) also had the feel of the books in places, and a far better Dumbledore, but a little too cheesy aiming for the kiddy market, it lost some depth. The art of making movies, like dance, art or literature is its own separate medium of expression. Let’s face it nothing tops the books, but the movies should use their medium to produce at the very least the feel and atmosphere of the Harry Potter books, which I feel was better done in SS than in GoF, or even OotP at times. I just can’t get over the silly kiddie moments that are so slapstick and overdone. Kids that read Harry Potter don’t even seem to be into that kind of entertainment. The soundtrack really rocks in SS and the kids are actually more endearing and believable in SS. They get a little cocky after GoF. They were not the hip kids in school. Harry in his baggy clothes and sweet ways is just more Harry. I’m also a sap for Hagrid, love the sappy Hagrid scenes, so flog me.

Tied for #4: CoS. CoS shares the above mentioned positives with SS. My problem with CoS is all the “Home Alone” screaming, and way too long car scenes. The part where Harry almost falls out of the car is obnoxious. The snake fight is too long and the Dobby and Dursley thing is just vaudeville boring. I love seeing the Weasley house, it was almost how I saw it in my head. The duel was pretty cool, liked the table. I love when Snape gets sassy.

Tied for #4: GoF. GoF put way too much focus on action instead of character, story and magical feel. I felt GoF was very Hollywood, which always shocks me in a Harry Potter movie. Hollywood has a very muggle feel in my opinion and in my own stupidity I assume HP fans are all of a more magical nature. One of the things that really bug me about this movie is how flat everyone seems in it. Little touches like the boys not wanting to dance, how cliché is that? Or Mr. Angry Dumbledore…or how about the lack of magic or humor? These are wizards not Dursleys! Yikes, on top of that Hogwarts felt like a public school not a school of witchcraft and wizardry, except the bathtub scene. I did like the underwater section and the emotional impact of Cedric’s death was the work of a master. I also like the Great Hall in the Ball scene, but the dress clothes seem all wrong. I see dress robes in my mind, more a cross between old and new, more eccentric, elegant and wizard like. It looked like a Prom in the Midwest. The Dursley’s would have approved. I also did not like Harry being rude to Neville right before he gave him the gillyweed. It just did not feel like the book. It would seem GoF was after the teen market as much as the first two were after the kiddie market. How about not aiming for a market and just making a movie as good as the books, well as close as possible.

I agree with you on almost everything Fleur, you say it really well. And I like that you see good things in every film and you don’t go bashing someone. I only disagree with about COS, wich I found a little worse then you did. I hated the dueling scene, Harry using a tickle-charm to knock Malfoid out, what was that all about, they can’t do that. Or the idea that second years could already change an animal into a watergoblet with ease. Soooo fake. And I disagree with you about Dumbledore. I actually like Gambon better than Harris, because Harris was just too cheesy and cliché. In Gambon you can really see Dumbledores different layers (probably unintentional, but still)

Fleur, I’m with you on much of what you say, bar some minor details. POA is also my favourite followed by OotP.

I liked what you said about ‘feel’ being what is needed for films to be ‘true’ to the books. Never mind changes to details, every film has made changes of equal magnitude; I don’t know why people target POA in particular. I personally found that book quite dull (esp the overlong shrieking shack scene) and thought most of the changes in the film were an improvement. I think both POA and OotP got close to the ‘feel’ of the books (OotP was my favourite book btw) and they are also the most ‘filmic’.

I’ve liked every HP film done so far. I have a different one to suit different moods, which is great. Naturally, there are things that I haven’t liked with each one, eg the excruciatingly corny ending of COS, the Buckbeak ‘Titanic’ impression in POA, preGrimmauld Place in OotP (it may grow on me in time). The major change I forgive least is GOF attack at QuidditchWC. But none of those things affect my overall enjoyment or my preferences.

I am with you Readbeard totally with you!!!:D:D