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Yay, new scene! Always exciting (unless it’s rubbish…then ‘grr!’ to WB).

mmmm… not looking forward to the film now, if this scene is for real. Strikes me as a mish mash of the absolutely DREADFUL GOF quidditch world cup attack scene with Harry for some strange reason flailing about on his own when every other wizard seemed to have got away, only for the Weasleys to suddenly reappear much later when they finally(!) realised he wasn’t with them(!!!), and the Hermione/Harry running from a werewolf scene in POA (which I liked actually), only this time to emphasize a Harry/Ginny ship.

and second, the leak should be sacked! Unless Amy S’s theory that it’s a staged WB leak is correct.

JoSePh – You make a good point, that I really agree with. They really do give away Harry’s lines to other people. I find that annoying that Hermione is the one to notice Malfoy is looking different. It was Harry all through HBP who suspected him, yet no one believed him till it was too late.

It annoys me too that Hermione is noticing Draco and Harry doesn’t care!

In the book, Harry is the only one who does notice and he cares a great deal about Draco’s continuing decline. Hermione doesn’t believe him!

From other parts of the script it seems as though Harry and Hermione (and I’m assuming Ron, but he has no lines about it that I’ve seen) are working together to figure out the vanishing cabinet and Draco’s plot, which is sooo frustrating.

I guess movie!Hermione can’t be mistaken about anything, even if it’s just one side plot.

I know we haven’t seen too much of the script but I’m also starting to think that we’re not going to get Hermione’s bird attack. It is a moment of weakness for her and highlights her insecurities so I guess we can’t have that; movie!Hermione has no insecurities or weaknesses. Sigh….Although I am surprised they would pass up on an opportunity for Hermione to attack Ron with a flock of canaries.

It just seems like something that would have been alluded to by now. The actors keep talking about how Ron gets a girlfriend and Hermione’s jealous, but never about a falling out between R/Hr or a fight. You sort of miss the point of the Ron/Lavender storyline if R/Hr don’t have a separation: it’s to show both characters’ insecurities and their reluctance to make the first move and how both might destroy their friendship, but how they are able to make it through regardless, and how their friendship is strong enough to withstand it. If they don’t include that they should have just cut it altogether, because it’ll end up being a tag-on and superficial.

Sorry for the movie!Hermione rant, it’s one of my biggest peeves with the films ( which I do like by the way). I love her character as Jo has written her, and her faults and insecurities are what make her so real and endearing. And in defense of book!Hermione, she is sooo much more witty and sarcastic and funny than movie!Hermione and I miss her lines from the book. In the film, she’s so busy saying anyone else’s lines (she gets Ron’s, Harry’s, Dumbledore’s, and starting with GOF when Kloves realized how annoyed the fans were about her getting other characters’ lines, he decided to write his own terrible dialog for her instead. cringe) that she has no time to say her own, though she got a couple in OOTP. For the record I blame mostly Kloves and the Producers, and I put none of the blame on Emma because she has little control, and she seems like she would just listen to whatever the directors want to do with her character, which is why Hermione changes the most from film to film in how she is portrayed whereas Harry and Ron are acted pretty consistently.

Mini rant over. :-)

I am okay w/ them adding the additional scene. I read the spoiler and its sounds really awesome, the thing i like the most is that it starts a relationship between Harry and Ginny. If the scene takes place over winter vacation then it has a bit of the book in it because after winter vacation the book says that Ginny is not as enthusiastic about Dean after winter vacation.

Taking about script, here are my thoughts… Ok, what about it? The wedding will be replaced by Harry’s birthday party and then the death eaters would be arriving in the night, during the festivities, just after he turns seventeen. That would emphasis the fact that they are really oppressed now by Voldemort and his followers, the first ( or second if they keep ” Fallen Warriors ”, as I hope they will) narrow escape. Then Fleur and Bill’s cottage would be changed as the weasley’s secret room where they are hiding ( maybe Muriel’s or any other reative or just any house well hidden ). That would mean a lot of things if Harry was to kiss Ginny at that key point, expriencing once again love, maybe more forcefully than ever, thinking at last of blindly trusting Dumbledore, especially after Dobby’s death ( Wouldn’t it be a great and profund way to end the first film if they are to be two? ). Well I can understand that that would surely disappoint the most sentimental ( and gossip lover;D) of us if the kiss doesn’t happen during Harry’s birthday but… What’s more, this would also mean that the Weasleys were already in hiding before ” The Malfoy’s Manor ” chapter and that Ron did find refuge with them and not Bill and Fleur ( no problem though there as they are the biggest blood-traitors ever seen according to the pure-blood lovers and if WB decide not to introduce bill ( and Fleur again ) or in just few scenes, just to make them appear and satisfy some HP fans ! lol ) . So, what do you think?

As for this new scene added, this would surely point out that the world is becoming more and more dangerous and they ae going to be hunted down by those bad blokes, with the heights of this cat-and-mouse game in DH. But I’ m not sure such a battle scene would do the trick. Indeed, this would seriously put already Dumbledore’s presence and protecion in doubt. But,Aren’t we supposed to truly miss the man and his magic at the end, at probably the key point, the biggest moment of the film?

P.S.: Sorry if my comment is cut into two parts but I had to wait before posting the second half !

Once again sorry because I meant ” talking ” in my first comment :) . Bye !

I don’t agree with you at all JoSePh. Hermione is more intelligent than Harry and Ginny might just be more powerfull than him. The real qualities of Harry are his good hart, his guts and his great instincts, not his power or intelligence. Allthough he has got that too, compared to someone like Dumbledore he is nothing and still Dumbledore realised that Harry was the better man en the one destined to finish off Voldemort. Portraying Harry as a superrrr-wizard would be stupid. He is hardly better than Ron, just look at his owls.

I think that a new scene is kind of cool, and as long as it doesn’t chance the plot in anyway. It should be fine. Like BellaSnape said, “If it’s okay with Jo. It’s okay with me.”

Hey Tomshome, I to think that the dobby death scene would be the perfect climax to the first(if there were two parts) of the Deathly Hallows. But Unfourtunatly it is so close to where the action picks up in the book. Right after that they go to the bank and then Harry has a peek in Voldamort’s mind sees that the last Horcrux is at Hogwarts and rushes off for the final battle. But… If they make the movie really long… that could be the perfect spot to put the intermission.

Nolan, you forget that there is also the Gringotts scene. Or aren’t they going to keep it in the movie?

Tomshome, I did include the Gringotts scene. Look back you’ll see that I said “after that they go to the bank and then Harry has a peek in Voldamort’s mind.” I’m sorry if I didn’t make that clear enough. And I really mean that I’m not trying to be mean or anything like that. But the Gringotts scene will only take at best ten minutes of the movie. Now the scene that I did forget to mention was the Aberforth scene. Which could take a while. Again I’m sorry I wasn’t clear on the Gringotts thing.

That’s all right Nolan. I should just be more careful ! Anyway, let’s just wait and see if they decide to do two films…

I wonder how are they going to do to make Bonnie Wright appear to be acting. She was so wooden so far.

Have you watched the OoTP, Snape’s Mistress? Don’t just watch her when she has lines and don’t keep your eye’s on the trio the whole time you just might see that she can act. I hope that didn’t sound rude.???

wow, you are really well mannered Nolan. You’re not offending anyone with your comments, trust me.

Redbeard and JoSePh, I agree with both of you, if that’s possible :)

Redbeard, I agree with pretty much all you say about Harry, Hermione and Ginny, except two things, one in which I agree with JoSePh below. I agree Ginny is possibly a more powerful witch in general (not taking away from some of Harry’s particular DADA strengths); she does do a very powerful reductor curse in OotP book I seem to remember. Hermione is definitely the brainy one of the three (and DH shows just how Super! she is)! I agree with most of what you say about Harry’s strengths too, that it is his “good heart, his guts and his great instincts, not his power or intelligence” that set him apart. I would add his leadership; both Hermione and Ron look to Harry for leadership.

I disagree that Harry is ‘only’ as good as Ron though. He’s more intelligent. Never mind OWL grades, clever does not always = intelligent. Harry sometimes makes quite incisive deductions about things, equal to Hermione’s, but I don’t remember a time when Ron’s deductions lead them anywhere. I just don’t get the intelligent ‘vibe’ from Ron at all. I’m sure he has his qualities, but that’s not it.

I also agree with JoSePh that it would be wrong for Hermione to help Harry with the Draco case (if that’s what they are planning of course!), because in the book she does so blatantly ignore Harry in his attempts to discuss Draco. One of her major faults is that she relies too much on factual knowledge and it stifles her ability to open her mind and to draw gut feeling conclusions. Harry’s instinctive way of working are at odds with her method and that’s why she ignores him in this case. She would not make a good Auror IMO.

Nolan, I agree about Bonnie’s acting in OotP too; she was great in the small time she had. I really do see her as Ginny in the books now.

Thanks Redbreard, I’m always afraid that I sound a bit harsh when I write these things. But now I have a question. Do my manner annoy anyone? And thank you Anne for letting me know I’m not the only one who notices this stuff.

Sorry got called away, Anne I agree that Hermione shouldn’t help Harry. It would go against her character. But I must disagree with Ron not being as smart. Look at the final book were he surmises to go to the chamber of secrets and use the Basalik fangs. And also how he can recall the sound Harry made when he opened the Locket. Now before he was a bit childish and not quite as mature as the others, all it took was a couple of splinched fingernails to get him thinking clearly.