Entertainment Weekly has a new feature online, highlighting the hottest 30 actors and actresses under 30. Actor Dan Radcliffe (Harry Potter) made the list, as did Emma Watson (Hermione Granger). On choosing Dan the magazine says:
“He’s utterly charming and managed to do the growing up thing with grace, even with a skin-baring role in a West End production of Equus. Plus, he’s got a teeny tiny fan base, seeing as how the Potter blockbusters have grossed nearly $4.5 billion (movie’s biggest franchise ever!) around the world. WHAT’S NEXT World domination! No, really, Radcliffe’s got the last two Potter flicks — Half-Blood Prince is set for release in November, and Deathly Hallows in 2010. Broadway, too, will see his Equus in 2008.”
Noting that this year Emma Watson will be part of the animated short The Tale of Despereaux as well as the upcoming Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince due out this fall, the magazine states: “WHY HER Because she’s matured from a precocious pre-adolescent to a confident young actress, right in front of her eyes. And she’s done it without ever appearing in the tabloid pages.”
We all seem to be arguing about what these kids do during their time off. Since none of us know baring them coming out with a film, made for tv movie, play or what have you, there is going to be nothing but speculation. However I just thought I’d throw this out there so that everyone can (hopefully) put this to rest.
Just because you aren’t seen in anything doesn’t mean you aren’t being seen by those in the business. I go to a University that has a high ratio of actors and actors children that go here. I was lucky enough to befriend an actor who had just finished filming a very popular long running American television show during last year (I do go to school in the States). He was taking that year off since he would be graduating. When he came to class one day in the middle of reading a film script I asked him what it was, and why, since we had talked about him taking the year off. He told me that since he wasn’t going to be pursuing acting for the next year or so that didn’t mean he wasn’t going to audition. He still was going to be going on auditions for roles (no matter the size) to keep up his appearances so that those in the business don’t think that he has retired (He had been in the business since age 4).
Just because Rupert hasn’t come out with any large projects as of late, doesn’t mean that he may not want to act. He may still be going on auditions that we don’t know about. Heck, auditions happen every day and no one knows who goes out for what part until the cast has been announced and you find out who won the role. For all we know Rupert could be writing a script, novel, or play. Or he could just be relaxing.
Who are we to get all up in arms because he’s chosen to take time off? It’s just a list in Entertainment Weekly. Unless Rupert calls my cell phone tomorrow and tells me that he’s desperately upset about it, I’m not going to fret.
“I’m not trying to compare her to Rupert, I’m just answering this aspect of your comment.” <-I’m not wondering. The only Rupert comment I made was the following: “But I will say that it still hasn’t even been two years since DL was released (in October 2006).” That was only a correction, not an introduction to a whole new discussion. God, I try and keep it all about Emma, and then your side brings Rupert back into it just to complain about how you want him out. By the way, according to IMDB, the TriBeCa film festival (that NY film fest you referred to) showed DL in April 2006, but the release date of the film in the U.S. (in theaters) was October 2006. You don’t judge by film fest premiere, that would be that a lot more movies have been released a lot earlier (from an avid movie fan). Ex.: Little Miss Sunshine at Sundance or Paris Je T’aime at the Cannes film festival
“I’m not trying to downplay Emma’s accomplishments (‘cos we all know what she’s acheived is admirable).” I know the comment’s harsh (the “school is not an excuse” one), but she’s not the lead (Dan needs more energy than she does) so I figure we as fans must ask. And the comment about auditioning means that she was looking for projects = she had the time, but didn’t do anything.
“Now, as we’ve all heard Dan say, plays are grueling work. Imagine two! Not only two, but two successes.” <-To have to force out the great amount energy each day while still being enrolled in college…that is serious. Especially when many smart and talented girls, like young Reese Witherspoon or young Jennifer Connelly, were so distracted by their projects that they dropped out. Nixon didn’t and she graduated in 1988. I’m emphasizing multi-tasking. But correct me if I’m wrong, school does not run year round over there, does it? I’m not trying to be rude, but Emma does get breaks, right? If she doesn’t get summer off, then I admit you’re right, but if she does…
As for Disney kids, no that’s a excuse (I keep saying that, lol, but it’s true). Jodie Foster was a Disney kid. ‘Nuff said. Oh, and I agree that Miley’s overworked. But there you go again with Rupert. What do the Disney kids have to do with him? I’m just answering this question of yours: “I didn’t get the negativity for Zac Efron and Miley Cyrus for being on this list.” Yeah, they’ll have projects, but so will Paris Hilton. I think Emma’s more talented than the lot of them; Zac and Miley’s talent to me is not notable, it’s just financially in your face.
digimon: “critics weren’t impressed enough for Grint to become a household name all of a sudden.”
Critics don’t often make household names, people make people household names. Example: Freaks and Geeks, My So-Called Life, Wonderfalls, etc. I could keep going. All these shows were critically acclaimed and all these shows had only ONE season. It’s usually how you predict the death of a show. It’ll most likely get canceled if it’s critically acclaimed. Examples for people: “Entertainment Weekly” 30 Under 30 Lists. Most of the girls on there, the lesser known ones that people on this board kept saying they didn’t recognize, get great reviews. Gael Garcia Bernal on the guy’s side always gets great reviews and isn’t a big star; Edward Norton gets great reviews but people don’t know him like they do George Clooney or Matt Damon. Most people hadn’t known of Ellen Page, before Juno even though she was brilliant in Hard Candy. Until you have great COMMERCIAL success, you aren’t a movie star. You’re just an actor or an actress. Daniel Day-Lewis is an amazing actor, spot on each time, and I could tell you honestly that the smallest percentage of kids at my school actually know him.
Fairylights, what is the point of your comments? Bad shows get cancelled too. Good shows with critical acclaim can get extended. George Clooney didn’t get on any of these lists til he was ancient and had years of doing little things under the radar. Ellen Page is hot right now and is being offered scripts right and left. She just left one project because she apparently didn’t like the script after all. Gael IS on this list, Ed Norton is very well known and over 30 and thus not on this list . What does any of these people have to do with this thread?
Why do you differentiate when DL came out? Rupert’s was done and finished and shown to the public in the spring and filmed the year before. It’s old news. No one cares anymore, except for his fans who hilariously enough, keep trying to revive it in threads elsewhere and everywhere.
Someone was mentioning Ruprt’s need to spend time with his family. Hmmm. Emma has a bigger, younger family- she’s the eldest of 7. I’m sure she and her parents felt absolutely no need for her to spend time with them. Especially since the toddlers live in London. Really , why would she want to get to know her littlest, character-developing siblings? It’s beyond me.
Yes, I suppose Emma shouldn’t be allowed a few weeks holiday after a year of school and extracurricular activities and working on HP . What was i thinking? But hang on, she DID do a project before starting this movie. I believe she did TWO!!! There you go.
You know, I’m not sure why you are harping on what Emma did with her time. She had far, far less time available than Rupert , and we don’t know why she didn’t get them. It is possible that she couldn’t fit it . That seems to be the reason rupert fans claim for rupert’s non shows and he had SIX plus months. That and his need for family time. Pity they don’t extend those needs to others .
What is irritating is for rupert fans to compare what the trio were doing in the same year despite the fact that all three are different ages and in a different stage of life. Rupert quit school at 16 and thus had lots of time to do other projects. Dan and Emma were still attending school . Until they turned 17, they were considered minors and possibly not allowed to make full decisions without their parents consent. Thus Dan and Emma may not have been allowed to do too much during their summers off . Dan only announced Equus after he had turned 17. Same with Emma. She only told us of trying out for different things during the press run for OOTP. Oh and let’s forget that it’s possibly difficult to get into Oxford or whatever university she might be aiming for. pfft. I’m sure it’s a walk in the park to get entry into those. Why try to do your best? Again, fairylights, why do you persist in bringing up what Cindy Nixon did in uni? A lot of people have jobs during University. Not really much difference there. Emma is trying to get into university.
but isn’t this a discussion of star power versus critical acclaim?
Ellen Page is hot right NOW, but she has more than proven her talent to critics long before Juno.
So Rupert isn’t as hot as Dan and Emma, but he has gotten mounds of Critical Acclaim for everything he has done.
And Rupert is really close with his family. I didn’t know Emma had seven siblings, I don’t really know that much about the stars. But I do know that he has said over and over again how close he is with his siblings. So I would not be surprised if he chose to lounge about at home with them.
It doesn’t make him any less talented. Just less famous. And I don’t know about you guys, but fame isn’t really as important as doing your job well.
If you go to the following link, you will find that even the biggest critics from the best tomes in the industry have only nice things to say about Rupert in any project. That’s enough for me.
I think that both Dan/Emma have deserved to be on that list because they have improved much better in acting .
I also think that Rupert has improved himself much better in acting .
I really think its unfair that Rupert again is left out he really deserved to be on that list to .
But we can’t do anything about it so we have to accept it.
oddly enough, that’s exactly what his fans were asking while Dan was off filming DB, doing Equus, MBJ, Extras.. That’ s what was mentioned by many a critic regarding his and Emma’s minimalist roles in the last HP.; not Dan’s fault obviously, but due to the constraints of time and plot for the movie. It is also why he didn’t get on this list.
I would mention that this is an american list, so there’s going to be obviously more americans on. If it was a british list, there certainly would have been different girls and boys on that list.
This makes me so mad! I didn’t even know that Emma had won too. Dan and Emma always get awards like this and Rupert is always left out.
He gets ’ Random and Odd ’ awards for him having the best hair…..
REALLY!? WTF!!!
I’m all for his hair, I have a unhealthy obsession for redheads and I think Rupe’s is hot, But come on people!
Now I don’t mean any disrespect to Dan and Emma, they are all wonderful and the Fact that Dan wins Awards back to back shows wonderful potential. And yeah Dan is hot and Emma is beautiful too…
But, hell Rupert’s worth being mentioned too and not just for his Damn Hair!
@radcakesfan: I was talking about how critics don’t “make household names.” (I was only responding to digimon’s claim that critics create movie stars.) Like for example, you said you didn’t know half the people on those lists. The unfamiliar ones tend to be the ones with good reviews but no fame. Read comments properly and I won’t have to respond anymore. Gael is not famous; Ellen, when see had great reviews, was not famous until she had COMMERCIAL success (Juno, duh). I mean, honestly, did you just skim my comment? I can quote myself some more, but my comment’s already on this page, it’s not like my language is fanciful or confusing. The whole bad shows being canceled vs. critically acclaimed ones is again referring to my original statement. Bad shows get canceled because critics don’t favor them, ratings are down, and there’s bad acting or a bad script. Critically acclaimed shows have good scripts, good acting, the favor of the critics, but bad ratings (again, people make people household names). It’s not that hard to understand. As for the Rupert/Dan/Emma comments, I’m just letting that go. I’m letting this whole board go; I’ve had my say, and I know I can’t change your opinion.
P.S.-I told you why I brought the Nixon example. Did you skim that, too? Quote: “I’m emphasizing multi-tasking.” That’s it, nothing else to it. Please, don’t respond to this because I have stopped caring. But if you want to respond to the whole critics thing, go ahead. Wow me with your skimming skills.
Uhm, Faurylights – Rupert is part of a huge, commercialy succesful global film franchise. How much more attention do you need? And yet, he is not recognized by both media and critics. Well, he is recognized but not enough to matter. Certainly not enough to be included on any list.
Chanda:
“And yet, he is not recognized by both media and critics”
This statement is false. Rupert receives more critical acclaim than I think you realize. Please see my previous post and just read through the OotP and Driving Lessons reviews to see exactly how revered Rupert is among critics.
Some people often think Rupert is not popular as Dan or Emma. I think It’s not true! I were in OotP premiere in LA. You know they yelled Rupert’ name over Dan or Emma. They were carzy when he came!
I think sometimes “media” is not mean “fan” !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Just a final thought before I move on from this…
We all seem to be arguing about what these kids do during their time off. Since none of us know baring them coming out with a film, made for tv movie, play or what have you, there is going to be nothing but speculation. However I just thought I’d throw this out there so that everyone can (hopefully) put this to rest.
Just because you aren’t seen in anything doesn’t mean you aren’t being seen by those in the business. I go to a University that has a high ratio of actors and actors children that go here. I was lucky enough to befriend an actor who had just finished filming a very popular long running American television show during last year (I do go to school in the States). He was taking that year off since he would be graduating. When he came to class one day in the middle of reading a film script I asked him what it was, and why, since we had talked about him taking the year off. He told me that since he wasn’t going to be pursuing acting for the next year or so that didn’t mean he wasn’t going to audition. He still was going to be going on auditions for roles (no matter the size) to keep up his appearances so that those in the business don’t think that he has retired (He had been in the business since age 4).
Just because Rupert hasn’t come out with any large projects as of late, doesn’t mean that he may not want to act. He may still be going on auditions that we don’t know about. Heck, auditions happen every day and no one knows who goes out for what part until the cast has been announced and you find out who won the role. For all we know Rupert could be writing a script, novel, or play. Or he could just be relaxing.
Who are we to get all up in arms because he’s chosen to take time off? It’s just a list in Entertainment Weekly. Unless Rupert calls my cell phone tomorrow and tells me that he’s desperately upset about it, I’m not going to fret.
Though I’d still love the phone call.