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Rachel, I would like to respectfully disagree with your take on the ‘Trio’ and argue that they are not a ‘Trio’ in an equal sense of the word. They are Dan as Harry, the Lead actor, and Rupert and Emma as supporting actors.

I think people forget how much bigger Dan’s role is when they lump the ‘Trio’ together all the time. I don’t think that their respective talents can be compared with any fairness at all. Dan has the most difficult job of anyone in the cast (with the possible exception of Alan Rickman, LOL).

I love Rupert, and think he’s a very natural comedy actor, but I can’t rate him alongside Dan and call him a ‘better’ actor. He has too little to show for himself and I always give Dan more credit for the difficulty of his role than I do to Rupert, whose role is not nearly so complex. Maybe it’s people like me who are to blame for Dan always getting nominated all the time :D I used to be a Rupert fan after all.

As for Rupert vs Emma. Well, yes, it’s a pity that he can’t be recognised for his talent as well as she is for hers, but for some reason his fanbase just isn’t serving him well in these sorts of vote. That’s the crux of the matter. Rupert fans need to get active.

@ Squibby – dont worry its not what you think – I love her as an actress just as I do Helena Bonham Carter, IF you want a more definite explanation you should go read my posts at the new Pansy area, that explains my story there. to put it lightly and short AGAIN people exploded on her and called her to old and ugly to play Narcissa and Im just somebody that believes that everyone gets a chance. ( I’m not a fricken you know what, so please dont start that!) Besides my heart belongs to Alan Rickman!

@BellaSnape! hm, I just asked, because I was curious, and I’m not sure what you mean by “don’t start that”, I did read your cooments under the mention post, that’s why I asked, I remember ppl’s comments when they put up news about Narcissa, I remember that mostly ppl were happy with the choice. Anyway, I don’t see the point in arguing about who gets which role and how we fell about, and who we see playing this role, since WE are not producers, directors, and don’t have any say in the choice, ppl should to be happy that we get news, any news. oh, and no argument about A.Rickman! :)

I just hope the whole cast shows up, like they did for the national movie awards. :]

Well I dont know what to tell ya then, we just must’ve interpreted different ways-( or you read the comments at happier times ?) thats all but I quite agree with your concept of thinking that no one should complain that is exactly what I said. and if you dont get what I ment by ” dont start that” then never mind it was something juvenile – I wasnt sure if it was or was not on your mind about me. And I know isnt Alan just dreamy- his voice and when hes dressed as Snape with all that Black is what really makes me weak in the knees.

I hope at some point probably next movie that we get to see Helen and Jason act together with Tom, that will be a priceless moment- I wonder if Jason has heard that someone has been casted as his on screen Wife?

Maybe I just never read all the comments, who knows. I kind of got what you meant, just wanted to hint I’m not into this “calling names” stuff LOL Oh, yes, AR is so…... I’m sure Jason knows about his “on screen wife” I love his attitude towards HP, he is so like us LOL The only differense, he gets to be in HP movie.

Perhaps rather than dissing Emma’s nomination, people should take into account that MORE people saw and liked Emma’s performance/role than saw and liked Atonement, for example. People could vote for everybody and anybody they wanted, even if they didn’t have a movie out. Those nominated had the top five numbers. No small feat. And after the “Sexiest actors/actresses of all time” poll that came out, you can bet that all the rupert fans were out in force trying to get Rupert a nomination . It was the same site. Obviously it wasn’t enough. Incidentally, what use would it be to complain to the Empire people? What are they supposed to do, stick rupert’s name in even though he doesn’t have the numbers or a big role? Again, tell me why is it okay for people to think it’s okay for Rupert to win, when his role is miniscule , yet it’s not for Emma?

Come on Rupert fans.YOu all showed your support for Rupert in the NMA that’s why he got a nomination. YOu didn’t nominate him enough this time so you only have yourself to blame for Rupert being overlooked again.

But if there’s anybody who’s more to blame, it is Empire itself.. They shouldn’t have considered Emma Watson for that best actress category cause she’s only secondary character. I have to agree that that trio are not equal at all. Dan is clearly head and shoulders above the other two in terms of salary, talent, media coverage and popularity. But let’s also not overlook Emma’s fans. Can anybody doubt the power of Emma’s fanbase? The fact that she’s here on this short list is enough proof of it.

Leaky fans should not believe that this list of nominees is determined solely by the number of votes received. These things just do not work that way.

I have a friend in publishing who has told me many times that the peoople “creating” these lists use a number of factors to decide. Among them are name recognition, likeability, and box office numbers.

He said the decision to include Dan and then Emma on these lists as HP representatives was first made a long time ago. That decision has proven to be very popular with movie goers as well as entertainment magazine readers. But you should not assume Dan and Emma always get tons of votes and Rupert gets relatively few. That may or may not be true. The known fact is that the entertainment industry is filled with “sheep” and they will almost always go with the “winning formula” because that’s where the most money is to be made.

I’m afraid Rupert’s most ardent fans will continue to be unhappy with these polls for some time to come. The odds are too highly stacked against him.

It’s hypocrisy to want Rupert to be nominated and at the same time diss Emma’s nomination. If she doesn’t deserve that Best actress nomnation because of her supporting status, then neither does Rupert casue they’re both on the same level.

BTW, I agree that it’s not a simple matter of the number of fans voting. If that’s the case, then Rupert should have been on this list too cause his fans are very active in the voting thingy. THey’re more aggressive than the Dan fans actually when it comes to voitng. So may be there are other factors considered for the the final list of nominees. Not wanting to sound patronizing, but Rupert Grint and Best Actor just dont have any credibility in it.. If they really want someone to represent HP, then no contest – it’s Dan. He has reinvented himself with Equus and now has a reputation as a dramatic actor. The inclusion of Emma on that list is a bit puzzling but the NMA was a precedent. so maybe that’s it. Of course, her fans are kinda impressive too.

Please Rupert fans don’t try to justify why Rupert is not in this list with all your own ideas of Rupert got the votes but he was not nominated because he is not award material; I cannot believe how many excuses you guys find to justify Rupert “less” popularity compare to Emma and Dan, and I’m not saying that Rupert doesn’t have a fan base all I’m saying is that he doesn’t have a BIG fanbase compare to Dan and Emma, but for sure Rupert fans have a very aggresive approach to every voting awards out there, I’m just trying to say that even with those aggresives ways you guys use to nominate or make Rupert into what he’s not you always failed badly, so please don’t take it on Dan or Emma or their fanbase, just for a minute think that he’s not as popular as the other two.

congrats to dan and emma… i find it weird that people are complaining about emma being nominated NOW, when she has been nominated for the best actress category since the start of the award season

@ Hugh.. i was supposed to agree with you until you started the whole equus thing.. dan wasnt nominated for best actor because people thought he did a brilliant job in equus so he must have done a fantastic job in ootp too.. its not like that..

awarding committees dont choose you because of your resume, they choose you because you’re great in the role you played

i just want to ask: is the empire movie awards important?as in you know really important?

Good job to Dan and Emma!

First of all – congratulations to Dan, Emma, David Yates, Nicholas Hooper and everyone involved in making Ootp for being nominated. In my opinion Ootp was the best of the films so far. Now to this hoo-ha ha about Dan being nominated, he did a grand job in the film and I think it’s perfectly fine for him to be nominated because he carried the film really well – people shouldn’t underestimate the fact that he has to take on a lot when it comes to the HP films – so good luck to him. As to Emma being nominated, personally I don’t think she’s a great actress, but that’s just my opinion, but a lot of people put her name forward so you can’t really argue with that. And those that are saying that Empire picked a number of box office leads are being nothing but misleading – there is no way that Empire magazine would have done that, their readership (which includes myself) would have gone after them with pitchforks if it had been rigged. The reason Rupert didn’t get nominated was that he didn’t get as much support as the other two, OK? And about Emma not being considered a lead? Well, first of all the nomination “best actress” doesn’t specify if it’s a lead or supporting roles anyway. And although I agree that Emma is not a lead compared to Daniel – I still consider Rupert and Emma to be the lead along with Daniel when compared to the rest of the cast. Can’t everyone just be happy that Harry Potter is still getting positively embraced after all these years?

i’m huge alan rickman fan.but i really boring rupert fans jealously.i think they don’t care harry poter movies.they only care rupert.

i’m 22 years old and i am student at university (Radio, TV and Cinema Department )and i can say daniel radcliffe than better rupert.rupert not good actor.he is act’ always similar since 2001.sorry but its true.

Me too faith, my heart solely belongs to Alan. And you guys have to remember this isnt the kids choice awards, like others have said there is more to it than popularity, which is why I think Daniel may have a good chance because he has broadend his horizens, epecially with Equus. I certainly dont want Transformers or the Bourne Ultimatum to win because that would certainly fall under popularity as well. thats just me. And I agree with whoever said that OOTP is the best movie so far- cant wait till Nov.

First of all I think it’s silly to compare Daniel, Rupert and Emma in this fashion. To say Daniel is better than Rupert or Emma is unfair and probably reflects the writer’s bias. I think Daniel does a good job as Harry – I agree his is definitely the lead role and he has a lot of responsibility for the role – but I don’t necessarily think he belongs in a best actor category at this stage of his career. Even for the London theatre awards (can’t remember what they’re called) he received a nomination in best newcomers – this to me is a fair category for where he’s at. He has shown he has guts and is very aggressive in pursuing his career – but only time will tell as to whether he’s going to be a great actor.

Ditto for the other two. I think both Rupert and Emma are fine in their roles – but really – they’re young, there is still a lot of room for growth, and quite frankly neither one of them were given much to do in the last movie (which is why in my opinion some people are so up in arms as to why Emma got nominated and not Rupert – the roles were both supporting roles – they both did a good job and they have a fine chemistry together but frankly I don’t think either one of them should have been considered in the best actor/actress category – supporting maybe but in my opinion I think it’s a little early at this stage of their careers. I mean if there were blow out performances on the part of any of them (think Ellen Page in Juno), that’s one story – but really that is not the case with any of the Harry Potter actors.

But as others have pointed out – this is not really about acting chops, is it? Daniel is very popular right now because after all he is Harry Potter. Emma is popular because she is the lead actress in Harry Potter and unfortunately some look at her as equal with Daniel (which is not right if one has read the books but we are geared to think of main actor and main actress when looking at movie credits). There’s no way Rupert can win against that combination – it is really not a reflection against him or even his fans – it’s just the way the movie industry works. Frankly from what I’ve seen of the three of them, none of them really take this kind of thing too seriously – so I guess what I’m trying to say is we should just be happy for them but hope they don’t get too wrapped up in these popularity contests. Popularity only carries you so far. As far as saying Rupert should not attend the awards, that to me sounds like sour grapes. And again from what I’ve seen, Rupert has always been a supporter of his cast mates – I don’t think there’s anything here that should make him act any differently.

Congrats to the HP team for all the nominations, especially to Dan and Emma! BEST LUCK to them! Hope they get all the awards ^_!

I sure hope Rupert gets nominated for something after HBP, since he has a much bigger part to play…and especially after DH, with his part being as vital to the story as it is, he will for sure get a nomination. We Rupert fans will just have to be patient. Rupert’s comedic timing is fabulous and there’s no doubt that he won’t be kept in the shadows for long.