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RDR Books Files Response to JKR/WB in Lexicon Suit
LegalRDR Books has filed its response to the full request for an injunction to the Harry Potter Lexicon book filed by WB and J.K. Rowling three weeks ago. There are in all declarations from six people and several hundred papers of exhibits, most of which are copies of text from books (including almost the entire Lexicon book).
As a reminder of the current schedule: Feb. 27: WB/JKR file a response to this response March 13: A hearing will be convened with Judge Robert P Patterson
Edited to add: The full content of the filings has just been uploaded at Justia.com (by the ever-vigilant Nicholas, saving us a lot of bandwidth – thank you!).
The overarching document – the opposition brief – in this case says:
1. That J.K. Rowling “appears to claim a monopoly on the right to publish literary reference guides, and other non-academic research, relating to her own fiction,” and that “this is a right no court has ever recognized,” and if accepted it would “eliminate an entire genre of literary supplements,” as well as threaten “encyclopedias, glossaeries, indexes and other tools that provide useful information about copyrighted works.” It says JKR’s rights “simply do not extend so far” and she hasn’t shown that this guide poses a significant threat.
2. After giving background on the Lexicon, is describes the beginnings of the Lexicon book, which is later backed up in a declaration by Rapoport: It says Rapoport called Vander Ark after reading about him in an article, and Vander Ark “expressed interest in publishing a book version of the website. Rapoport said he thought the A-Z index was the best part to publish.
3. The brief recounts the history of the action by saying, “Shortly after RDR Books announced its intention to publish the Lexicon, Plaintiffs commenced this action.” There is no mention in this brief of the cease-and-desist letters that have been detailed by JKR/WB.
4. The brief says it is “far too late” for JKR to be the “first to publish” a Potter companion books, citing “nearly 200 Harry Potter companion guides,” “many of which incorporate A to Z listings.” RDR provides six of these books as evidence:
a. The Unofficial Harry Potter Encyclopedia: Harry Potter A-Z, by Kristina Benson
b. Field Guide to Harry Potter, by Colin Duriez
c. The J.K. Rowling Encyclopedia, by Connie Ann Kirk
d. A Muggle’s Guide to Exploring the Wizarding World by Fiona Boyle
e. Fact, Fiction and Folklore in Harry Potter’s World, by George Beahm
f. The End of Harry Potter? by David Langford
The documents do not list the 200 companion books. but count these six as the ones that had “especially striking similarities to the Lexicon in both format and content: At first flush, (a) appears to be out of print or unavailable on Amazon, (b) is about 2/3rds non-encyclopedic work, (c) seems to not be listed on Amazon, (d)’s title is actually “An Unofficial…” etc. and (f) is a predictions book.
5. Prof. Janet Sorensen declares in favor of RDR, and the brief says she says that “lexicons like this one have an important and distinguished place in the literary world…it organizes a tremendous amount of information into a concise and readable form…[and] provides a significant amount of original analysis and commentary.” It also says the HPL takes information from “painstaking collection” of Ms. Rowling’s interviews and statements, and Sorensen says it “helps readers to construct the universe of the Potter books in their minds, to understand its rich connections to the wide world in which we live, and to encourage the impulse to imagine a universe beyond the one depicted in the books.”
6. The brief maintains the HPL is “highly transformative,” and an example of work that has “always been held to constitute fair use.”
The argument of the brief states that to get this preliminary injunction, JKR/WB would have to show irreparable harm in the absence of it, and either “a likelihood of success on the merits or…sufficiently serious questions going to the merits and a balance of hardships tipping decidedly in the movant’s favor.”
It maintains that:
1. JKR/WB has not shown a case of infringement: “the Lexicon does not ‘reproduce’ the Harry Potter Works (or any one of them) in any meaningful sense of the word’ and claims examples of derivative works include ‘a translation, musical arrangement, dramatization, fictionalization, motion picture version, sound recording, art reproduction, abridgement, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted,” and then says the Lexicon does not fit in those categories because “reference guide” is not among them. It also says the Lexicon does not “recast, transform or adapt copyrighted works in comparable ways.”
2. It claims, based on a declaration from the Lexicon is a “supplementary work, the purpose of which is ‘explaining…commenting upon [and] assisting in the use of’ the Harry Potter Works, citing Benjamin Kaplan’s An Unhurried View of Copyright.
3. “Even if” it was a ”’reproduction’ or ‘derivative work,’” JKR/WB would have to “show substantial similarity between the Lexicon and Harry Potter Works.
4. The Lexicon is protected by Fair Use, the document says, because it is “a valuable reference tool that helps readers to better access, understand and enjoy the Harry Potter works.” The brief argues that fair use is not a “narrow exception” but an integral part of the Copyright Act incorporating the need to ‘allow others to build’ upon copyrighted works. It claims Fair Use is a ‘First Amendment safeguard’ that prevents copyright law from burdening free speech.
5. That fair use is governed by four factors that are non-exclusive:
a. The “purpose and character of use,” ie, whether the nature of the work is ‘transformative.’ The brief says a transformative work ‘adds something new, with a further purpose or different character, altering the first with new expression, meaning or message,’ citing Campbell and a case against Amazon, Inc. a decision involving a search engine’s ability to produce thumbnail images.
The brief says a “thoughtful review of the Lexicon reveals significant, transformative functions that add extensive value, understanding and insights to the original works,” and claims the “organizational value” of the book makes it transformative.
It also says the Lexicon has a “significant amount of commentary and analysis,” citing the entry on Neville Longbottom and Luna Lovegood, talking about his bravery and leadership and Luna’s observations about her nature, decodes meaning of geographical and historical references and revealed “myriad errors and inconsistencies in the Harry Potter Works,” citing the example of Marcus Flint appearing as a seventh-year after he was to have graduated. (As an aside, this discovery was not made by nor is unique to this book; it is frequently spotted by fans and the first public record of it comes from 2000 ago on the HP for Grown Ups list by a user named Stephanie.)
The brief says “any fair reading” reveals significant transformative value, and that attempts to compare it to the case of the Seinfeld trivia book are inaccurate because of the nature of a trivia book not being a reference guide.
The brief compares the Lexicon to the Beanie Baby collector’s guide that was the subject of a lawsuit as well.
b. “Nature of the copyrighted work”: The brief says, again, that the Lexicon helps readers better “access, understand and enjoy” the Potter books.
c. Amount of the work used: This factor assess the portion of the original work used in the accused work, and this brief says that relies on “whether the extent of copying is reasonable in light of its purpose,” citing a search engine’s need to produce photographs and the Beanie Babies’ collector’s guide depicting the Beanie Babies products. It claims JKR/WB have ignored the purpose in their claim that the work relies too heavily on the original HP books. It also points out that the Lexicon does not borrow the overarching plot sequence or story ark, pace, setting, or dramatic structure, only “short quotes,” and “no more than what is necessary to its purpose.”
d. Market Effect: The brief says this depends (quoting Bill Graham from the MCA, Inc. v. Wilson suit) upon “balancing the benefit the public will derive if the use is permitted” versus “the personal gain the copyright owner will receive if the use is denied.” It says there can be “no dispute” the Lexicon gives “substantial public value,” citing J.K. Rowling’s and WB’s use of the web site (though it says “Lexicon,” without distinguishing the book from the site), claims based on a declaration from Steve Vander Ark. It also claims there can be no market harm because JKR/WB did not argue that the Lexicon book would be bought instead of one of the seven HP novels or seeing an HP movie. It also says that derivative works are “eligible for fair use protection.” It also says that it is incumbent on JKR to prove that the Lexicon is a substitute for the guide she wants to publish, and says that J.K. Rowling does not suggest anyone would purchase the Lexicon guide instead of hers.
The brief then goes on to say that the contents of the Lexicon being made available for free negates any market harm, and that the fact that it has existed online for free for six years should mean it is able to be sold in printed form.
“If and when Ms. Rowling decides to publish a companion guide, it will undoubtedly be unique,” the brief says, citing the Leaky Cauldron’s interview with J.K. Rowling in December 2007. It specifically mentions (multiple times throughout these documents) that she anticipated it might take as many as 10 years to produce, and that her ideal layout would be “facing pages” with backstory and extra details on characters on the left-facing pages and extra information that wasn’t in the books on the right. The brief repeatedly – outside of the exhibit in which is prints the enitrety of the transcript – leaves out the portion of the interview in which J.K. Rowling said it would be a definitive, give everyone-everything sort of guide. Here is the relevant text from the PotterCast transcript:
JKR: I’m just gonna say, “This might change,” but I imagined it as half of it, maybe on facing pages, but that might be difficult just through layout. But the ideal would be to have- say on the left hand side you’ve got a page showing all your back story, extra details on characters, or an entry on wands, showing what every character’s wand was and all of this stuff. And I think also it might be interesting to have information about the actual writing and what I discarded. So on one side it’s acting like the whole world is true and it’s giving you extra information on that real world and on the other side we’re admitting that it’s actually fiction and I’m showing yeah, discarded plots, characters that didn’t make it, problems in the plot. I think both lots of information are interesting so it would be nice to unite both of them… I think the only- the point of doing it, if I’m going to do it, it’s about doing the absolute definitive, giving people everything guide. ... [E]verything that I’ve got, put it that way. That’s what I aspire to do at the moment. It might, for practical reasons not be possible to do both sets of information in that way but I would like to, that would be the ideal. ... I think there’s no point in me doing it unless it’s amazing. And I think there’s no point in writing it unless it is everything and the last thing that I want to do is to feel that I have to rush something out because (SU: Right.) do you know what I mean? My hand is being forced or there’s demand and other people will fill it first. I think, I just want to do it right or not do it at all. And I really do want to do it right.
The brief claims her idea of the guide focuses largely on what is not in the books.
6. This brief claims there has been no bad faith on the part of RDR Books or Steve Vander Ark. It dismisses the JKR/WB “smoking gun” email in which Steve Vander Ark said a book of the HPL would be illegal and against Jo’s wishes, by saying, “Vander Ark is a layperson, not a lawyer, and his speculation as to the legal status of the Lexicon (since corrected) is beside the point.”
7. The brief says the quote in question from the Harry Potter Lexicon web site has been removed from the book’s cover – but it does not mention in this brief (only later, in Rapoport’s declaration) that it wasn’t removed from the Lexicon cover until after JKR/WB’s filing. It also claims if the quote remained the false endorsement evidence offered by JKR/WB would not apply because the quote does not have “the potential to mislead anyone,” and maintains the survey in which an independent consultant showed people the cover of the book and determined that 38-55 percent of them had been falsely mislead by the fansite award text, was fatally flawed because there was a disclaimer underneath it. It claims JKR/WB instructed respondents to look only at the quote and invite them to ignore the disclaimer.
8. The brief says JKR/WB has not met the burden of showing “irreparable harm.”
Further information not addressed above in the remaining documents:
1. Steve Vander Ark’s declaration says that:
a. Approximately 10 percent of the material included in the Lexicon book is part of the original postings on the web site when it was created. The remaining is material added to the web site since 2000.
b. No one has ever demanded a “cease-and-desist” for material on the web site that is now in the book.
c. The staff compiled an A-Z index of the site in 2005.
d. It has been his goal to present “a comprehensive encyclopedia, a single source in which they can find descriptions and definitions of all the characters, places, spells, creatures and physical objects in the world of Harry Potter.”
e. He says his contributions are about 60 percent of entries, and 40 percent by staff or other contributors and editors “and also fans whose comments and emails have proved useful and informative.”
f. In making the web site he says he has used general fable and myth research tools as well as the Potter books.
g. The only revenue has come from the “very limited advertising I allow. About three years ago, I began accepting ads from Amazon.com in return for a payment of approximately $15 per month. About 18 months ago I began accepting ads from Google for a payment of approximately $100 per month. Together, these ad revenues have covered the cost of operating the web site.” [The Leaky Cauldron houses and runs the Harry Potter Lexicon for zero charge, and has since it came under its current domain name. That is true as of this posting. The original intent before this response was filed was to transfer the Lexicon to its own server; because of this question of ownership and cost, we will refrain from changing any variables where sworn statements are concerned, and will not transfer the domain until litigation has been completed. At that time we will be happy to do so.]
h. The web site gets approximately 350K pageviews per month on its index page and 1.5 million per month on its entire site.
i. “Beginning in about 2003, I received regular requests from fans for printed copies of the Lexicon website, proof of a demand for a print version…At the same time, a number of people contacted me with proposals for using the material on the Lexicon website in a printed encyclopedia. For a considerable time I declined these suggestions…There were two reasons for this. First, until the summer of 2007, Ms. Rowling had not completed the series of Potter books, so that any encyclopedia published before that point would be incomplete. Second, until August 2007, I believed that an encyclopedia, in book form, would represent a copyright violation. This was an assumption on my part, however, as a layperson.”
j. “Before visiting London in July of 2007, I requested a fifteen-minute meeting with the Agency [Christopher Little] to discuss both the work visa [ that he was trying toget] and the possibility of using material from the Lexicon for a book and was told they didn’t have time.” [There is no document in the filing proving this, unless it refers to this letter, as cited by JKR/WB, which does not mention his wish to publish the Lexicon as a book.] “I made no further plans for a book until Roger Rapoport of RDR Books contacted me.”
k. Roger Rapoport told Vander Ark that he had consulted with an expert who said the publication would be legal, during discussions about the book. Steve then requested RDR indemnify him against lawsuits.
l. Work on the book began after August 20, 2007, and was completed on Sept. 15. It contains half the web site.
m. The book is smaller than the online resource because of space issues. “Entries in the book are often condensed versions of corresponding sections of the web site.
n. “It is true that, in a few places, the book employs phrases or sometimes whole sentences that are similar to phrases or sentences in the Potter books…in those cases, however, the similarity in language was unavoidable.”
o. “Over the past several years, I have gained widespread recognition as an expert on the Potter world. I have been interviewed about various Harry Potter subjects by the School Library Journal, Time magazine, the BBC, the New York Times, the Detroit Free Press…and several other publications whose names I do not recall.”
Vander Ark claims David Heyman, producer of Harry Potter, said the Potter flimmakers use the Lexicon web site almost every day. This was supposed to have been said during a set visit in which many fan outlets were invited to see the Order of the Phoenix lot.
q. The Electronic Arts Studio, the declaration says, has printouts of the reader’s guide on its walls.
r. After the release of the sixth book, Cheryl Klein of Scholastic sent Steve a thank-you note on behalf of his staff which is included as an exhibit. It reads: “Steve Vander Ark for the HP Lexicon: Dear Steve and the rest of the Lexicon team – On behalf of the Scholastic Half-Blood Prince editorial staff, I’d like to say thank you for the wonderful resource your site provides for fans, students, and indeed editors and copy editors of the Harry Potter series. We referred to the Lexicon countless times during the editing of HP6, whether to verify a fact, check a timeline, or get a chapter and book reference for a particular event…We’re all HP fans ourselves, of course, but you made our work immeasurably easier through the one-stop searchable HP encyclopedia the site offers. Please accept this as a token of our admiration and appreciation, and ever so many thnanks again – All best wishes, Cheryl Klein.”
s. The sole purpose of the Lexicon website and book, Vander Ark says, “is to encourage fan interest in, and serve as a reference to, the Harry Potter books…the Lexicon book cannot be financially successful or profitable if the Harry Potter works are not financially successful or profitable….I believe that Harry Potter fans will buy a similar work written by Ms. Rowling even if they have purchased a copy of the Lexicon book because her fans are very loyal to her and will always want what she writes.”
t. He deems many declarations from JKR/WB to be inaccurate and says that the books referenced by JKR/WB have been “carefully chosen to exclude” what has been seen in the case as other HP encyclopedias. It also says Neil Blair has never asked Vander Ark to remove from the website any material which is now part of the Lexicon book, and says that means the same content in a for-profit book is therefore not infringing. It says Diana Birchall’s claim that no outside sources were used to write the book is incorrect, and gives a few examples. It also goes on to illustrate what he deems as analysis in specific entries.
u. “Fans of Harry Potter, and ultimately Ms. Rowling her self, will only benefit,” from publication of the book.”
Further declarations are from Shawn Malhotra, a first-year law student at New York University, who summarized press statements J.K. Rowling has made regarding her encyclopedia, which quotes a significant portion of the statements J.K. Rowling made in the PotterCast interview:
The quote they use is this:
“The ideal would be to have- say on the left hand side you’ve got a page showing all your back story, extra details on characters, or an entry on wands, showing what every character’s wand was and all of this stuff. ...And I think also it might be interesting to have information about the actual writing and what I discarded. So on one side it’s acting like the whole world is true and it’s giving you extra information on that real world … and on the other side we’re admitting that it’s actually fiction and I’m showing yeah, discarded plots, characters that didn’t make it, problems in the plot. I think both lots of information are interesting so it would be nice to unite both of them.”
[To be fair, the next thing she says in the transcript, however, is:
“Well, exactly, to be honest, I think the only- the point of doing it, if I’m going to do it, it’s about doing the absolute definitive, giving people everything guide.”]
There is also a declaration from David Harris, another first-year law student, who has provided summaries of the six books listed as also uncontested HP encyclopedias.
Roger Rapoport also provides a new mockup of a cover for the book, which was designed in “late January.” The title has been changed to The Lexicon: An Unauthorized Guide to Harry Potter Fiction and Related Materials and consists of a plain white cover. The front and back now list extensive disclaimers.
Janet Sorensen, a tenured professor at the English Department at UC Berkeley, made a declaration that says the Lexicon is “part of a long tradition of lexicons and guidees,” and mentions as a comparable example Charlotte Lennox’s Shakespeare Illustrated, in which she presented a guide to the public domain characters and plots of Shakespeare, and Samuel Richardson’s own guide to his own work, Pamela Illustrated. Most of the beginning of the declaration involves guides and lexicons in the 19th century and early 20th. It also mentions 20th-century examples of guides to JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis’s work, and notes that the works were published while still under Tolkien and Lewis’s copyright but doesn’t address the level to which permission was sought or granted for each. The Lexicon, she says, is a “ready resource” for J.K. Rowling’s creations; Sorensen mentions her own need to have her memory jogged while reading, etymological information in the book and citations. She says the Lexicon is helpful for the youngest readers of the book, referring to a six-year-old she knows who might find value in it. She also says that the Lexicon’s pointing out of mistakes is likely to be unique to it, and not included in Rowling’s version, adding value. She also attests to the light moments of critical interpretation and analysis.
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umm… blah blah blah blah blah… just oodles and oodles of fancy shnanzy wording and unreliable examples to try to make their case, TO NO AVAIL… No one in their right mind will take this seriously… No judge can deem this as reliable evidence and data… They just need to stop wasting the time of WB and Jo and their lawyers. I know they won’t; they’re in too deep and it would be so humiliating for them to drop it, although if you think about it, they’ve already made quite the fools of themselves, Steve VA and the RDR Books bunch.

BTW, Melissa: Thank you SO MUCH for all your HARD WORK and DEDICATION to HONEST, UNBIASED JOURNALISM!!! You really are the best!
Three Chers for Melissa!!! Hip Hip Horray! – Hip Hip Horray! – Hip Hip Horray!
And three cheers for the Leaky Cauldron!!! Hip Hip Horray! – Hip Hip Horray! – Hip Hip Horray!

@ nick and budb, dudes why so serious? we are Harry Potter fans discussing something that is going on, we really dont care if we sound like professional journalists or not, and making personal jokes as long as they are appropriate are funny, lighten up a bit would ya. thankx much appreciated

Wow… “a witch” on pg 5… the claim that Melissa will be making money off of HP? To my understanding, Melissa’s book in no way repackages, analyzes, shifts, portends, pulls from, or in any way deals with the text of the Harry Potter books. Melissa’s book is a non-fiction work about the effect of Harry Potter on the world and, specifically, the fans. Melissa put a lot of leg-work into her book, researching, interviewing, touring, fact-searching, etc., and spent MUCH more time finishing her first draft than SVA did copy and pasting his book in 2 or so months. It’s a completely different book. From what we know about it (which is really only what she’s talked about on PC), it is in no way like SVAs book. The comparison is laughable.

oh, Bella, you know me, start a real a good argument based on facts logically organized, i’m there, ready to argue with the best of ya…but, irrelevent or personal attacks on anyone, especially those i disagree with, nope, that’s hitting below the belt ;-)

This was one hulleva piece of legalese to digest! Good grief Melisa, you’re a SAINT for going through all the tedious documents (and horrib jargon to boot). Thank you so much.
I don’t think I need to add anything new, many in previous posts have pointed out the essentials. I do care about this matter and am following closely. Am too appalled to write anything coherent right now…
I’d say for the diehard HPL fans, if you really like it just print the thing of and have it binded! That’s cheap and you get what you want a printed copy… But please understand that profiting from it otherwise, is just not for RDR or SVA to benefit from.

Kudos to you, Melissa, for the excellent, detailed job you did at writing this article! I’m so appreciative of all the hard work you’ve done in presenting this legal case.
I very much look forward to reading the book you’ve written on Harry Potter fandom!

hello shinymac, :)
i love melissa and i love leaky (per the end of my post) i actually think it’s fine and dandy if melissa or whoever is making money on hp if it is legal. she has worked hard in analyzing of the hp world. that was my point. i think both melissa (on her book) and steve (at the lexicon) have both worked very hard.
i have nothing but love for them both, that’s all i was saying. :)

it should be noted witch that melissas book is about the harry potter fandom. in it, she explores the history and impact the harry potter fandom has had. it will likely go over fansites, prominent figures in the fandom, and big moments in the harry potter fandom.
it is not a copy paste of the seven harry potter books like the lexicon is.

NottheHBP: It’s about the phenomenon as a whole, and life inside it. Fandom’s certainly a large part of it, but it’s not an intense chronicling of it so much as a depiction of its chief qualities and characteristics and quirks. It’s not an insider fandom book but a general HP phenom book that has, as part of it, a depiction of fandom. And no, there are no worries about copyright with that.
Thanks again, all, for keeping it civil when possible.

hi melissa and all!
i’m a little new to posting so it’s very exciting to have this conversation. :)
melissa, your book sounds awesome and i for one will be thrilled to read it! yea! :)
and hello NotTheHBP, nice to meet you too! :) i agree that RDR has changed tunes as to what they said the book was in the beginning to what it is now, (the whole: is it analyzing or not bit) but oh well, it’s up to the judge to decide all their fates now and try to decipher all this… i really feel for everyone.
i think i’ll quote someone the other day, “it makes me want a butterbeer!”

sorry bout that melissa. I am still really looking forward to read it though.
The main issue here is that RDR Books and Steve Vander Ark is recorded in saying the same thing is saying that now that jk rowling has finished writing harry potter, that it is the fan’s property now. Steve announced as such to hundreds of people at a harry potter convention. RDR Books, as we now know for sure, approched Steve to publish the book. Steve, while I still dislike him now and feel he has done many horrible things, including outright attacked jo claiming she is trying to choke the fandom wrong, the fandom is intact, including the lexicon website, she is trying to stop abuse of her copyrights for personal profit is not caught in the middle of RDR’s squablings with the law.
The case is between a Author who created a entire world and wrote 7 books that are a literary phenomenom both in literal scope of sales, and the impact they had on the world, and a small town vanity publisher created to publish the owners books because no other published apperently would publish them as taken by the extremely poor quality of the books both written and published by the owner of the publishing house, roger rapoport.
RDR Books approched Steve for the purpose of bringing steve in, then profiting off of harry potter. honestly, authors tend to only get 2-5% from the sale of each book, and if they are agented, many agents take 5-10% of that, 15% often for books sold to foriegn markets which pays for the extra cost of working with out of country publishers. Steve may have aggreed for the purpose of giving a print version and not the money, but the fact that RDR contacted him wanting to do it is fairly reliable evidence that RDR did it for profit to capitalize off the success that harry potter has had. no doubt they went to steve because of the lexicon and saw that all the work was practically done so they can rush their version out as quick as possible to be the first.
Steve is along for the ride, but he still is making a few mistakes. RDR Books has now been revealed to be the root of the entire problem. of course steve could have just said no like he should have, but RDR Books didnt care about the lexicon until they saw dollar signs from it, and that is why they clearly went after steve to get him to give them the rights to publish a book version of the lexicon.
Had the book only have been a compilation of the essays on the lexicon, I would not be shocked if jk rowling gave them her blessing immediatly. but they instead, after jo has said for many years that she would be doing a encylopedia, they decided to copy/paste her books, and sell it for profit.
the matter is that there reallly is that the entire lexicon is totally in debt to jk rowling. none of it could exist if she had not created her books and world, all of which was copyrighted. fair uses really only allows the use of copyrighted material for the explicit purpose of making critical commentary of a work. using a sentence here and there to use as a example for making a statement about merits of a work, or its relevances to historical or present issues and views is a good example of what fair uses entails.
fair uses however if my reading of it is correct those not include alphabatising a text and adding in a few facts from the books. the lexicon is basically a website that list things alphabetically with facts from the book, but nothing new to add. alot of the other encylopedias specifically list things then go into detail about things outside the book, such as what myths might have inspired jo, where a name comes from, and other intellectual things. they offten explore literary tradition, and how harry potter conforms to moves away from literary genres and styles.
the lexicon does not do that.
one of the books that RDR is claiming is like the lexicon is in my hand right now. it is a enclopedia or sorts. Fact, Ficton, and Folklore in Harry Potters world. it is a good example of what a companion book encylopedia should be. it lists a great deal alpbetically and explore them both through their role in harry potter and outside. this is why this book has not been sued by jk rowling.
Jo is protecting her work, and the reason she has not sued the other people is because their works do not repackage her world, but add new insight into them. and so, this is why she is sueing the lexicon, which in website form does not add anything, it just is a free website resource for fans. turn it into a profiteering venture, and you are infringing on her copyright.

@ budb, you know I don’t even understand what you said, so whatever, some people are just touchy, I don’t know could you speak in smaller words- Im not stupid but you sound like some Lawyer person that speaks Lawsuit – I even get that language form watching Law and Order. maybe its cause I have a headache. singing ” don’t worry, be happy – don’t worry be happy”

welcome ” a witch ” your not alone I’m fairly new myself, nice to meet you TLC is the best HP website, it keeps info up to date really fast- as I’m sure you noticed. but welcome if you haven’t made a friend I’ll be your friend. Just as long as you don’t take Snape from me – just kiddin- LOL

budb: Message me on the LL, if you’re on there. I’m under the same name. I’ll explain a bit about why so much is public record so that we don’t continue to stray off-topic.

They keep saying the book isn’t going to do any irreparable harm. But it is, it’ll reduce sales of JKR’s encylopedia and reduce the amount of money she can raise for charity, money she will never be able to get back. That is the irreparable harm it does and that is why Jo has chosen to stop publication of this book.
And it WILL reduce sales. To some degree. Casual fans, and friends of hardcore fans who don’t understand the fandom themselves, will buy this book and very likely not buy Jo’s, especially if the Lexicon ends up being cheaper.
And they seem to think that copyright law REVOLVES around the fair use doctrine. It doesn’t. Fair use is a teensy weensy exception. It’s basically only for parodies and news or commentaries. The fact that this book contains direct quotations from the books and is neither parodying, reporting news about Harry Potter, or making any substantial amount of commentary relative to the amount of information taken from the books and reorganised, it’s not acceptable under fair use.
Here are some enlightening statements from Wikipedia about fair use:
Purpose and character
The first factor is about whether the use in question helps fulfill the intention of copyright law to stimulate creativity for the enrichment of the general public, or whether it aims to only “supersede the objects” of the original for reasons of personal profit.
Amount and substantiality
The third factor assesses the quantity or percentage of the original copyrighted work that has been imported into the new work. In general, the less that is used in relation to the whole, e.g., a few sentences of a text for a book review, the more likely that the sample will be considered fair use.
Effect upon work’s value
The fourth factor measures the effect that the allegedly infringing use has had on the copyright owner’s ability to exploit his original work. The court not only investigates whether the defendant’s specific use of the work has significantly harmed the copyright owner’s market, but also whether such uses in general, if widespread, would harm the potential market of the original.
In my opinion, RDR and SVA violate all of these. The “supersede” part is most enlightening. That’s exactly what they’re doing, trying to beat JKR to the punch and get their own encyclopedia out first.
But no-one has ever ordered a cease-and-desist, they say? That’s because the site wasn’t stealing Jo’s charity money, you prat. It was a free resource.

thanks st mel, got it, responded….let me know if you dont get mine

Wow, this is the first time I have sat down and really read into all this RDR books issue. I can’t believe RDR’s arguments. They seem to be using the fact that the Lexicon is well received by fans/Scholastic/WB/EA etc. as supprt for there case, when in fact they are the very people against the case. Just because we support(ed) the Lexicon and liked it as a website, doesn’t mean that fans are happy to go against Jo’s wishes, and see the book in print.

That was absolutely amazing: I learned a lot. This is an intersting case, as all that relate to the first amendment are. I await the turnout. Thanks for keeping me updated!

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Leaky Poll
Moving the HBP film to July 2009 is:
- Completely unforgivable34 (44%)
- Annoying, but I'll get over it28 (36%)
- Not something I care about.4 (5%)
- Cool; who wants to go to the movies in the winter anyway?1 (1%)
- Awesome! I get to save $10 until next year.3 (3%)
- Awesome! I get to save $10 because now I'm skipping this movie!4 (5%)
- I've made a Facebook group, started a protest, called my local councilman, staged a sit-in, started a boycott, and organized a million-fan march because we won't stand for the - wait, what was this about again?2 (2%)
A few people in here have shown themselves to be the victims of lazy journalism. In many news outlet today, journalists do no more than blandly repeat any press release. Actual journalism requires fact checking and sharing facts with the reader so that they can have an informed reading. That is exactly what Melissa has done here, and it only proves her a better journalist than most.
My hat off to you, Melissa