NotTheHBP

to the person posting under the name “steve” here on the page 28 of the comments, you are dead wrong.

jk rowling has already stated that she is not against legitamate and legal books of commentary… that requires that they contain actual commentary, and they are allowable by the law.

there is no true commentary in the lexicon book, nor those it qualify according to fair use laws, which means it severely infringes the copyrights owned by jk rowling.

SVA is in the wrong here. they and trying to punish jk rowling because she would not give him a job when he demanded her to give him a job working with her. he even had the nerve to say he would help her write her future books. he didnt create anything that has to do with harry potter, he simply reorganized everthing jk rowling created, and took credit for the work of others at the lexicon. he started the website, but he had a huge group of volunteers that get nothing should the book go through and be sold. and yet there work is in there without citation or thanks.

Posted by NotTheHBP on March 26, 2008, 08:35 PM
Caracticus

It seems that SVA supporters in this thread are keen on propagating half-truths or outright misrepresentations of facts AS fact.

Stop it.

Posted by Caracticus on March 26, 2008, 08:48 PM
Ashley

And most of them (the SVA supporters) also seem to be using the same theme of “Leaky is only doing this so they can further kiss up to their goddess, JKR!” This is yet another reason why I can’t quite suppress the suspicion that most of them are, in fact, from the same place. ::cough::RDR::cough::

Posted by Ashley on March 26, 2008, 08:53 PM
mollywobbles23

Cara’s right, I just checked the comments there. He said it. Broke my non-clicking rule just to check a curiosity. sigh Commented there as well. I have the biggest mouth in the world. Call me Ms. Opinion.

Posted by mollywobbles23 on March 26, 2008, 09:11 PM
rotfang07

Thanks Cara. Found it and checked it.

Posted by rotfang07 on March 26, 2008, 09:19 PM
NotTheHBP

in a perfect world, a author who has to take legal action against a hijacker and fan abuser like SVA should be able to legally halt any publication by said hijacker that has anything to do with the authors works.

sadly, gone are the days where you can tie someone up to a ice flow and send him out adrift in the ocean till it melts and/or he dies.

if I am sounding quite hatefilled, it is hatefilled at steve’s horrible actions and statements which are abusive towards true fans, and towards jk rowling who gave us this wonderful series he now is trying to claim ownership of.

Posted by NotTheHBP on March 26, 2008, 09:47 PM
Wizengamut

My goodness go away for a few hours and the fur flies!

Morton et al. thanks for the giggle. Glad to know I’m not the only middle lifer going on teenager around here! LOL And you are all right, HP keeps me very young and happy :)

J and other trolls: please leave, really. You aren’t adding anything to the discussion except blathering on about how Leaky is wrong. What an odd place to voice your discontent with Leaky but on Leaky’s website with Leaky fans? Surely there are other HP fan sites you can go to? People who tend to go to websites and participate in them actually like them. If you don’t and feel the need to complain you could do so with an email without upsetting everyone else. What a waste of time and energy.

mollywobbles, I gotta say you certainly have found some intriguing links I know I am hopeless to understand the minutia of legalese but I do have a firm grasp of what is right and wrong.

And before I go wade into the age thing again (tee-hee) I guess I was supposing that someone of SVA’s age would not make rash decisions and clearly think out all possible outcomes before acting which unfortunately can happen to younger people who tend to react quickly and find themselves in pitfalls they hadn’t foreseen. Yes, I know it is a terrible generalization since I know some very astute, bright, and careful young people and I know some terribly unstable and reactionary older people. But I think most would agree that SVA’s recent and obvious contempt for JKR shows how much he “isn’t acting his age” (and yes, I do use it on my daughter! LOL)

Posted by Wizengamut on March 26, 2008, 09:59 PM
mollywobbles23

@Wizengamut

Are you talking to me or the other mollywobbles? I haven’t provided any links. I provided those descriptions of unofficial encyclopedias and commented on them, though. I’m not that good at legalese either. : – )

Posted by mollywobbles23 on March 26, 2008, 10:12 PM
Pam Richards

Phew!! Just finished reading. I must say I’m seriously confused as to SVA’s reasoning. He has clearly stated in the past that he knew that an encyclopedic work was verbotten. So how does he get from there to his current position? I’m also a librarian, so I really don’t understand this. Copyright is something librarians must deal with a lot, so I’m lost as too how he could misinterpret it so badly. As a librarian, we post signs near photocopiers about copyright & fair use, constantly remind users that they can’t create downloaded databases of fulltext articles and other issues.

I’m a health sciences librarian and deal with research publishing issues. Now some granting agencies require that grant recipients publish in open source publication, as well as in scholarly journals. Getting that permission from the scholarly journal is a major pain due to copyright. Also,with digital rights management and loaning music and book associated CDs, you run into other problems with getting permissions from copyright owners. It’s enough to drive anyone batty.

All of that drivel is to say that as a librarian, copyright is in your face, can’t miss it, so I’m really wog boggled as to how he came to where he is. Perhaps he thinks he will play a role in the changing of copyright law and that’s part of his motivation. Publishing is in flux right now and copyright is a hot button issue for many librarians. Maybe he sees himself as an “information to the people” crusader. I don’t know.

Are we sure that the confundus charm isn’t real?

Posted by Pam Richards on March 26, 2008, 10:20 PM
anne

“my hope is that one, RDR loses, two, RDR is bankrupt for breaking the law after being required to pay jk’s and wb’s legal fees. three, RDR cant publish steve’s books, and four, no other publisher will publish his other books.

that would be a great victory for harry potter fans all over the world. we dont like being used and abused.”

Excellently put NotTheHBP! It expresses my fervent hope perfectly.

Posted by anne on March 26, 2008, 10:36 PM
Ashley

Apologies for yet another OT comment from me, but I just have to say, in regard to Pam Richards’s post, that “wog boggled” is now my new favorite phrase.

Posted by Ashley on March 26, 2008, 10:38 PM
Cathy

@Morton

Completely off topic as well Morton, just wanted to let you know that Grumpy Old Men is on tv tonight at 8:00.

@mollywobbles

Read conversation with Steve on Lexicon…very interesting.

Posted by Cathy on March 26, 2008, 11:01 PM
mollywobbles23

@Cathy

Interesting indeed. He just needed a little advice from a fan. I hope he keeps his word about keeping quiet until the case is closed.

Posted by mollywobbles23 on March 26, 2008, 11:05 PM
mollywobbles23

When I say “fan” I mean of the books, not Steve, just to be clear.

Posted by mollywobbles23 on March 26, 2008, 11:12 PM
Neil

mollywobbles23 – “Cara’s right, I just checked the comments there. He said it. Broke my non-clicking rule just to check a curiosity. sigh Commented there as well. I have the biggest mouth in the world. Call me Ms. Opinion.”

Don’t worry about it. It’s hard to keep quiet, on such an issue as this. We all feel pretty much involved in this whole debate. ; )

Posted by Neil on March 26, 2008, 11:18 PM
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