LemonFaerie

Well, having quickly scanned through those first three links, the one thing that stood out to me is that the judge seems predisposed to be in favor of the SVA book because he found SS/PS difficult to “navigate” himself when he read half of it out loud to his grandchildren years ago, and the unfamiliar names, etc., were stumbling blocks for him. He seems to think the SVA book would help people with the same problem to “understand” the books better. If that is the case, then wouldn’t it be even better to have the true encyclopedia, the Scottish Book, straight from the horse’s mouth, so to speak? Not a plagiarized copy of the original author’s work?

It may bode ill for Jo that they were unlucky enough to get a judge who must be one of the seven people left in the world not really familiar with her books, and one whose mental capacity was such that he couldn’t handle a few unfamiliar names. I mean really. The average 9 year old has no such problem!

Posted by LemonFaerie on April 17, 2008, 04:38 PM
Johanna

“Well, having quickly scanned through those first three links, the one thing that stood out to me is that the judge seems predisposed to be in favor of the SVA book because he found SS/PS difficult to “navigate” himself when he read half of it out loud to his grandchildren years ago, and the unfamiliar names, etc., were stumbling blocks for him. He seems to think the SVA book would help people with the same problem to “understand” the books better. If that is the case, then wouldn’t it be even better to have the true encyclopedia, the Scottish Book, straight from the horse’s mouth, so to speak? Not a plagiarized copy of the original author’s work?”

Is the judge serious? If he found PS “difficult to navigate” then how on Earth did he manage to work his way through the lawbooks and finally to become a judge?! I mean no disrespect to the judge at all but to me it sounds a bit ignorant of him …. PS if after all a book millions of children were able to read and “navigate” easily in their first read …

Posted by Johanna on April 17, 2008, 04:46 PM
Anthony

The judge must learn the concept of context. Read the first book from start to finish!!

Posted by Anthony on April 17, 2008, 04:48 PM
LemonFaerie

This is the quote from the Sydney morning Herald (written with the AP):

“As the day wore on, however, he [the judge] seemed fascinated by the subject material, interrupting the lawyers at one point to question the experts himself.

In an exchange with Johnson, Patterson explained that his firsthand experience with the Harry Potter novels was limited.

During a visit by his grandchildren, he read them the first half of the first book in the series, Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone.

But, even in that quick read, he said, he found Rowling’s “magical world’’ hard to follow, filled with strange names and words that would be gibberish in any other context.

“I found it extremely complex,’’ he said – even more so than the Dickens his own father read to him as a child.

The judge suggested there is genuine worth in a book like Vander Ark’s, even if does nothing more than index the somewhat ridiculous sounding names of Rowling’s characters.”

Scary, eh?

Posted by LemonFaerie on April 17, 2008, 04:55 PM
Melissa

Honestly, guys, if there was one thing I learned durng the trial it’s that the judge was really shrewd. He kept referring to small specific points that happened sometimes a whole day previous that I couldn’t remember or pick out, or think to mention. If he judged this case based on his like or dislike for the series I’d be shocked; let’s give him a little more credit. :) For the record, he did then say his grandchildren had loved the series.

Posted by Melissa on April 17, 2008, 05:04 PM
Rosa P

Wow is this judge serious??? He had difficulty reading PS??? I read it alittle bit at a time to my 5 year old and he can still tell me from months ago who was who and what happened. He cant be serious!

Posted by Rosa P on April 17, 2008, 05:05 PM
Neil

Thanks Melissa, I would be incredibly worried if I were WB & Jo. If the judge came across like that. I would be pressing for a vote of no confidence in the judge (if there is such a thing possible)

Posted by Neil on April 17, 2008, 05:10 PM
*Ava*

Wait?! Did the judge REALLY say “I found (Philosopher’s Stone) extremely complex”!? What, did he forget to put on his reading glasses? I don’t mean to sound rude…But come on! My brother’s read them when they were eight…And loved them!

Uh oh…This doesn’t sound too good for J.K. Rowling, I hope she’ll come through and win.

Posted by *Ava* on April 17, 2008, 05:10 PM
Johanna

Yeah, Melissa is right; we should wait and see before we bash the judge (even if his comment is odd). Perhaps he was trying to be funny?

Posted by Johanna on April 17, 2008, 05:11 PM
*Ava*

Thanks Melissa. But it sounds like his grandchildren can understand more then he can… I’m just sayin’!

Posted by *Ava* on April 17, 2008, 05:13 PM
LemonFaerie

Sorry, Melissa! I don’t mean to bash the judge, really. Its just that based on that comment, I found it a bit worrying. Not even so much what it may or not say about his shrewdness, but that he was predisposed to be in favor of SVA’s “book.”

Posted by LemonFaerie on April 17, 2008, 05:22 PM
Melissa

I think anyone trying to make that comparison in a news story is doing so very irresponsibly. The comment came up when talking about how many characters there are in Potter and whether a Lexicon aided better understanding and memory of who is where. That’s when Jeri Johnson re-brought-up Bleak House to the judge and reminded him how many characters are in that story. People calling it an overall comment on the case are flatly deceiving, or taking the simple way out of the thought process that goes into writing one of those stories.

Posted by Melissa on April 17, 2008, 05:28 PM
Elizabeth

My father is a Harvard Ph.D. who became a college president at age 34 and served in that capacity until he was 72. He’s a brilliant man. One evening some years back, my brother and I were watching an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and my dad sat down to watch it with us.

He demanded to know why Angel, a vampire, didn’t bite Buffy.

Me: “Well, Dad, he’s a vampire with a soul.”

Later in the same episode, Dad asked why Spike, another vampire, didn’t bite Buffy.

My brother: “He has a chip in his head.”

My Harvard-educated academic of a father was utterly befuddled at something that made complete sense to my brother and me.

Not everyone is into fantasy; not everyone is even into fiction. My father rarely reads fiction. I can easily see him being confused by the Harry Potter books.

Stupid people do not receive lifetime appointments to the federal bench. Ideologues often do, but not stupid people. Just because the judge had a hard time understanding something that we understand fluently, and just because he might rule against JKR and WB, does not mean he’s stupid. I’m guessing everyone here, even the ones with a legal education, would have a hard time slogging through the thousands upon thousands of cases establishing precedent that the judge must consider in this case. Those who do not have the analytical mind that a judge requires would, I wager, have an especially difficult time. That wouldn’t make you stupid. That just means you think in a different way than the judges who wrote those cases.

Posted by Elizabeth on April 17, 2008, 05:40 PM
Keith

To tell you the truth, my biggest fear from the outcome of this case, is if JKR loses and ends up deciding she is too disgruntled by having a “Lexicon” book on the market, as well as opening floodgates for other cheap imitations, that she doesn’t see a point or desire to finish the “Scottish Book”. This would be a horrendous result for her true and loyal fans.

So please Judge, get this one right…it is far too important for future artistic ventures in the world.

Posted by Keith on April 17, 2008, 05:48 PM
desertwind

Can I just say right now how much I heart Melissa and Elizabeth?

- And, now, back to our regular programming…

Posted by desertwind on April 17, 2008, 05:52 PM