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JKR/WB vs. RDR Books Trial: Complete Transcripts

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Posted by: Kristin
April 22, 2008, 04:29 PM

We now have the transcripts of the trial, courtesy of Stanford Law School.

Day 1

Day 2

Day 3

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98 Comments

mollywobbles23

First?

Yay! Finally!

Posted by mollywobbles23 on April 22, 2008, 12:50 PM report to moderator
mollywobble

Oh boy. This is going to take awhile. Thanks Kristin.

Posted by mollywobble on April 22, 2008, 12:51 PM report to moderator
jensenly

Excellent.

Posted by jensenly on April 22, 2008, 01:35 PM report to moderator
Jules702

I am still reading but I have to say that everytime I get to any part that says Mr. Hammer I have to stop to laugh…

oh pottercast at least you brought a little humor into this whole situation

Posted by Jules702 on April 22, 2008, 02:15 PM report to moderator
MuggleQueen

YAY a full transcript!

dives in to read

Thanks Kristin =)

Posted by MuggleQueen on April 22, 2008, 02:26 PM report to moderator
MattyJM

A little statement that JKR made sums this all up: the Lexicon is SVA and RDR’s attempt to sell people what they already own. JKR made numerous points throughout about the multitude of opportunities the Lexicon authors had to expound upon the basic information taken from JKR’s novels, but instead they settled for copy and paste.

Excellent points were made. Her encyclopedia would add information not found in the books. SVA/RDR’s Lexicon does not, it’s merely a reorganised form of existing information in the truest sense, with no added theories or commentary.

I wouldn’t consider the Lexicon to be a transformative work at all. The same facts found in the Lexicon can be found in the original material, there is no additional commentary, nor have they added background information on common mythological creatures that have been mentioned briefly but have recieved no indepth explanation in JKR’s books (ogres were an example used). Nor have they given any further explanation on the real world, or common mythlogical histories of some of the famous witches and wizards, which were only very briefly summed up on the Famous Witches and Wizards Cards. JKR is not kidding, the Lexicon really is a lazy work.

What is worse, it’s not even an index, really, because the Lexicon does not simply tell you where to go to find the information. It virtually copies and pastes that information into the book, most often verbatim or almost verbatim, again without adding anything, which is what sets it apart from those multitudes of companion books that JKR has allowed to pass unchallenged. Those other companion books have added commentary, new perspectives, theories, additional background on creatures and characters wth roots in common mythology is history.

My summary of this case: the Lexicon adds nothing substantial. It not fair use.

Posted by MattyJM on April 22, 2008, 02:44 PM report to moderator
danny

this is really interesting to read. so far my favorite is the typo:

THE WITNESS: Roanne Rowling, R-O-W-L-I-N-G.

i expect she didn’t mispronounce her own first name!

Posted by danny on April 22, 2008, 02:47 PM report to moderator
Ammy

@ Jules702

I was just about to say the same thing. :)

Posted by Ammy on April 22, 2008, 02:58 PM report to moderator
mollywobble

Okay, so I just finished JKR’s testimony from Day 1. I still have to Rapoport’s testimony Mr. Hammer was really bad here. His cross of Jo was atrocious. The only time he gets close to making a strong argument is when he brings up the Mugglenet book. Then he makes the mistake of asking her if her lawyers “force the removal of any book that might conceivably compete with a companion book that you one day might want to write.” Jo of course gets the lovely oppurtunity to then point out, on the record, the 100s of companion books and guides already in print that have not been forced off the market. Nice job, Hammer. You just walked right into that one.

Or how about when he says, “HBP, what the heck is that?” Yeah, nice one.

Here is my favorite part: JKR: That’s my language. Hammer: That wasn’t written by Mr. Vander Ark, was it? JKR: Well, it probably will be at some point, but no, he hasn’t done it yet.

LOL!

Posted by mollywobble on April 22, 2008, 03:20 PM report to moderator
Johanna

Thanks Leaky for your great work to keep us posted on what’s going on. You are absolutely fantastic.

Posted by Johanna on April 22, 2008, 03:21 PM report to moderator
mollywobble

Sorry, I meant to say “I still have to read Rapoport’s testimony.” I’m not sure how I botched that sentence so badly.

Posted by mollywobble on April 22, 2008, 03:29 PM report to moderator
alice_grayson

When I read “Roanne Rowling” I thought it said roena ravenclaw.

....don’t ask me why ^^;;

Posted by alice_grayson on April 22, 2008, 03:33 PM report to moderator
SJM

Not sure how any of this stuff really works, but from what I’ve read Mr. Hammer seems to be purposely acting dumb about the HP-universe to make the point “oh, if only I had a lexicon where I could look these things up… that would be so helpful at this moment.” or “gee, I have no idea what she’s talking about ‘HBP??’ I wish I had an A-Z easy-to-use Harry Potter lexicon…”

Because honestly, why else would he be so obviously ignorant about the series?

Posted by SJM on April 22, 2008, 04:34 PM report to moderator
Leggers

I think Mr. Hammer has had been hit in the head with his own hammer…

I support Jo! :D

Posted by Leggers on April 22, 2008, 04:55 PM report to moderator
Neil

I’m another one who smirked when I saw Jo say “Mr Hammer” :P I only just got through day 1. Going to take me abit getting through all of it.

Posted by Neil on April 22, 2008, 05:34 PM report to moderator
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