Extended Edition of Harry Potter and Sorcerer’s Stone to Be Released, More Possible Soon

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Aug 12, 2009

Posted by SueTLC

Great news tonight! At long last, the extended editions of the Harry Potter films are being planned for release. Rope of Silicon is reporting that after the latest Motion Picture of America ratings bulletin, there was word that an extended edition of Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone had been rated PG. The report continues that emails were sent to reps for Warner Home Video about possible extended editions of all the Harry Potter films, receiving the following reply: “Although we’ve not announced [it yet], all Harry Potter films are being planned to get special upcoming releases!”

Please note: We have no idea on the actual content (ie if this is the same version they show on ABC family) or whether they are contained in those special “Ultimate Collectors” DVDs we’ve heard about recently or when exactly this, and hopefully the others, will be available to fans; more when we get it!

Thanks much to Rope of Silicon and Jeremy at HPANA for emailing!





169 Responses to Extended Edition of Harry Potter and Sorcerer’s Stone to Be Released, More Possible Soon

Avatar Imagesnowyowl17 says: OOh my cannot wait.Avatar Imageluvthepuff says: OHMYGOD I am so excited! YAY. Avatar ImageCatherine says: OMG! so excited! thats so awesome!!Avatar Imageabandonedboyjon says: my life is complete. thanks for listening, warner bros. Avatar Imageheartless_wench says: Lets just hope that the extended versions are part of these already-announced "ultimate editions". To release two separate new versions, one "ultimate" and one extended, would be so many colors of wrong.Avatar Imagekismatt says: 9 years of teasing us with extra/extended footage is enough! Let's go WB!!Avatar Imagesholstom says: I Hope they have more scenes never seen before in them!Avatar ImageBwaySaint says: Oooh! I hope it's what they show on ABCFamily!!!! I had an argument during the last Harry Potter Weekend over the leg-locking scene with Neville - too many sad that was in theatres and I tried to explain it was a deleted scene! Avatar Imagesholstom says: I Hope they have more scenes never seen before in them!Avatar ImageRhiannon7 says: It is about time! ~Puts money in the piggy bank~Avatar ImageeiVega says: mixed emotions. I don't like too many versions of a DVD because I don't know which edition to get. I want everything but I don't want to have to buy it all. I'd rather wait until after the very last movie comes out and have a super-duper ultimate collectors edition.Avatar ImageLemonFaerie says: Echoes *Rhiannon*: IT'S ABOUT TIME!!! Oh, I hope hope hope it means fully extended versions with all the stuff we've been dying for for yours and years, pleasepleaseplease, WB!!!Avatar ImageShackShrieker says: I'm upset! They're just trying to rob us of our money! I've already bought all the HP Blu-Rays for $90, and now they're releasing an EXTENDED edition which will no doubt cost another $100 dollars altogether! GAA! How many editions are there going to be??!Avatar ImageShackShrieker says: Is anyone else feeling me pain??!!Avatar Imageblackhair says: well thats great newsAvatar ImageHermyGrnger says: OMG! I just don't want to wait too long for them! can't wait!Avatar ImageCandyCane2304 says: nope ShackShrieker don't have a Blu-ray. This better be part of the Ultimate collector's edition, if not that would real bogus and wrong of WB.Avatar Imagecheeserpleaser says: I am very happy to hear the news that Warner Brothers is potentially planning to release extended editions of the movies! I hope they do include the deleted scenes that they did not put in the original DVD's they have released, as there is evidence indicating that they did film some scenes but did not think they even merited being included among other deleted scenes. Such scenes include the Weighing of the Wands, an explanation for the Marauder's Map, and more.Avatar Imagedavid1228 says: AHHH!!!! This made my day a million and one times over!!!Avatar ImageRightLeftMiddle says: I want to buy this but it must promise to be amazing!Avatar ImageHPNAIV says: I would love it, if there was just one type of edition. I totally agree eiVega. I don't want to buy multiple dvds. I want a whole collector's edition after DH Part 2, but they don't seem to have info on that yet. So I don't know if I should get these extended versions or not? I still need more information on these dvds.Avatar Imagebella vita says: OMG! I have no words. I am so freaking excited. WB finally listened to our constant pleas! Although like others I really do hope that this will be part of the new "Ultimate Collectors" DVDs as opposed to something totally seperate to buy.Avatar ImageJPHufflepuff says: Theatrical edition + Extended Edition = Ultimate Edition right? If this new Ultimate Edition does indeed contain the extended edition (the box does look pretty big so it's gotta contain something) then they just went from a "might not be able to resist these" purchase to a "MUST HAVE THIS THE DAY IT COMES OUT" oneAvatar Imagemoondragon15 says: will they just be adding the deleted scenes from the movie?Avatar Imagemoondragon15 says: will they just be adding the deleted scenes from the movie?Avatar Imageblackhair says: @ ShackShrieker dear well u do one thing yaar buy only the last latest one yaarAvatar Imagegryffindor1991 says: i cant wait to see all of the extra special stuff we havent seen yet.Avatar ImageKC Nox says: Oh man when I read the headlines I was hoping that meant extended editions of the book :( lol but this is very exciting too!!! I have been waiting a loooong time for these. I hope they pack in as much stuff as they did on the lotr extended versions! Avatar Imageterieb says: hooray!Avatar Imagehermionerules1844 says: I hope their not releasing two different ones of the same movie. Most people can't afford to spend that much money on a DVD.Avatar ImageHGROSS44 says: Will add to my colection YeaAvatar ImageKissa says: Oh LORD. I hope this is the versions that are being released this December! Please please please, WB, say it is!Avatar Imagesakuranbo07 says: I pre-ordered mine last week for Sorcerer's Stone & Chamber of Secrets. I cant wait.Avatar ImagemaatjeHP says: Finally!!!!! I've been very upset that there were extended editions showed on ABC which in holland we can't get...... But I really really hope now we all can see themAvatar Imagececmal says: Can't wait!!Avatar ImageJoost says: They have to finish and put in the scenes with Peeves! Anf of course the love scene between Aragog and Grawp, that they cut out of Order of the Phoenix!Avatar Imagemadman1277 says: Im excited cant wait Avatar Imagedeadtree says: I certainly hope that these are the same as the ultimade edition dvds... but I'm still going to *try* and wait for a final collection. I doubt I'll make it though. As soon as they say something like "never before seen" or the like, and I'll be digging out my credit card...Avatar Imagehermione97 says: Hope they will add a lot of new and extended scenes!!!Avatar ImageFleur-de- Lily says: awesomeAvatar ImageRemsyLuck says: Finally, I can't wait! Hopefully they'll be better mastered and mixed than the verion shown on ABC (the PoA extended version was terrible, they added scenes in the wrong places).Avatar Imageevannaa says: I hope they've got like half an hour with scenes we haven't seen before and more extra material or something..Avatar Imagesiriuslymissed says: yey!! DO NOT FORGET US PEOPLE HERE FROM THE PHILIPPINES!!! Avatar Imagepipkin3 says: Well, as someone living in the UK and hence isn't living in WB's favourite country, I haven't even seen the ABC extended editions, so I should like this even more. I can't wait for all the deleted scene we know there are - primarily because of snapshots that never appeared in the cinema versions - especially from POA (Ron's attack - they showed deleted scenes on the aftermath, but did they actually film the attack?) and OOTP (McGonagall recovering after her stint at St Mungo's - we saw a pic of her sitting outside Hagrid's reading hte paper I think)Avatar ImageBeazle says: At last ! This makes complete artistic AND commercial sense !Avatar Imageprincessginevra says: OMH!!!!!! I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT!Avatar ImageDobbyWinkyKreacher says: Totally awesome. Woooohooo, can't wait. I want the complete boxed set of all the extended versions, all deleted scenes in. This news has made my day :-) Avatar ImageJackHarkness says: Oh dear. The film's far too long and slow as it is. An extended edition would be interminable. I wish they'd release a version cut down to 2 hours. I might make it through the film without falling alseep. Same with CoS!Avatar Imagemuggle-mom says: Hmm, what could they still be holding onto?Avatar ImageR-for-H says: LOL Great!!Avatar Imagelisajean65 says: This is fantastic! I just hope that they aren't only on blu-ray because I don't have a player yet! And hopefully the extended will be like Lord of the Rings extended. That would be so amazing!Avatar Imagepinkmoosely says: cool! all that extra stuff we've not seen beforeAvatar Imageforlornx says: Oh my serious? I cannot wait!Avatar Imageturlaach says: Here's hoping for Peeves!Avatar ImagecrazyforSeverus says: I'm super excited. I don't know if it will be worth it though...if they just add in the deleted scenes, I've already seen those. And not to mention I don't want to spend the money to rebuy all the movies. Especially I already have more than one copy of the Goblet of Fire (in order to get the bonus features). I might buy the new ones if I knew more about them and decide if they're worth it.Avatar ImageHagrid 713 says: I want more, more, more!!Avatar ImageGanduean-Vampiress says: please i hope they are part of those ultimate editionsAvatar ImageSnapesSilverDoe says: fab, I have always wantd the extended scene of the first ever potions class in its rightful place in the movie. It's so annoying to have to go through the rigmarole of the DVD game first. I also love the deleted schene with the Malfoys in Borgin and Burkes - how that ever got cut is a mystery to me!Avatar ImageGiant Squid says: exciting!!!Avatar Imagekbicprez says: WB will still be releasing “new and improved” editions of the DVDs 20 years from now. The HP films may be the ultimate cash cow. I admit I’m fanatic about the books, but not so the films. But I loved POA and own it on DVD. I don’t know if my DVD is a “no frills” or extended or ultimate or vitamin enriched version. I don’t really care. I love the film as is and will not be buying a “better” version.Avatar ImageAwakened says: When I first glanced at the title, I thought this was for the book. Oh well, still pretty cool and I know I'll be getting it.Avatar Imagebudb says: About time. Rather odd to me tho that WB is taking so long to nail down exactly what will be in the releases, and the exact release of HBP (in Dec): after all, with postponing the release of HBP to theaters, they have had more than the usual time to get the dvd release planned and for that matter done. Yet WB has dithered, for lack of a better word, and now seems to be in a rush to get a project finished. The last few years, WB really seems to have been 'preoccupied', and made some surprising (postponing the release of HBP being one example) __and surprisingly poor (dropping Slum Dog Millionaire at the last minute being an obvious example) __corporate decisions. So, like everyone else, i am excited by the news, but awaiting details: exactly what will be the "ultimate" release we are promised, and will that be the same as the "extended" release? When will we be able to pre-order (I've been checking Amazon.com)? etc. Avatar ImageTonks1 says: It would be nice if WB just issued one final extended DVD with deleted scenes for each movie for fans that can't afford to buy mutiple DVD's of the same movie. Think about it. The later fan that has not purchased any DVD's can now buy one with the extras one time. Whereas the the older fan that has grown up with HP already has spent their hard earned money on five DVD's and now WB hints about other versions to come. Avatar ImageAudreyLouiseLovegood says: SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!! - but I hope these aren't going to be tooooo expensive :PAvatar Imagebudb says: I would add that _at least for the film versions of SS, CoS and to some extent GoF __adding the deleted scenes back in will add tremednously to the overall story line. We'd finally get Dumbledore's Chocolate Frog card and the reference to Grindelwald, the vanishing cabinet (which mysteriously changes and looks different in HBP! But, hey...that is a discussion about Yates!), and other crucial plot line elements, the extended Yule Ball scene in GoF.....so, bring on the extended versions.Avatar Imagehepburn says: Oh! Good news! :)Avatar ImagemrscRed says: How many times am I going to buy these films??? I first bought them separatly when they came out, then I bought Harry's trunk for "Order of the Phoenix", and now that? Hell !!! It's worse than Star Wars !!!Avatar ImageBewareoftheNargles says: Sounds interesting, although I don't know if I want to have to buy all the DVDs again for it...Avatar ImageMoose_Starr says: It has been said already but, good news lol :D SS is my equal first favorite movie along with PoA so, I most likely would buy it again, even though it's not long since I bought the two-disc special edition. It's kind of weird that I buy multiple versions of the HP movies when there are other movies I dont have at all. I guess I'm really obsessed lol. But siriusly, I love SS and I would love to see the movie with extended scenes.Avatar ImageAudreyLouiseLovegood says: mmmmmmmm... kinda confusing having all o these editions all of the sudden coming pout :PAvatar Imagemjkalldaway says: Yes! Finally! Everyone's been waiting so long for this. PLEASE WARNER BROS.!Avatar Imagesagaciouspenguin says: I've been buying the cheapest version I can find of each one as they come out, but will buy a megga all-8 extended blu-ray set once it's all said and done. Avatar ImageLilyverus says: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Happy Dance!!!!!!!!Avatar ImageHorcruxalej says: hmm i want they but i dont want to buy them all again and than once more when the last movies come out and they make another special addition or something..Avatar Imagepost-leaky-guy says: ohhhh i hope its good... it was a great film, possibly a classic, i think it was almost better with the old-kind of wizard things, like Professor Flitwick levitating books and feathers -- it was good, you know?Avatar Imagepost-leaky-guy says: ha, can you believe talking about the Harry Potter Dynasty to our kids, and their unexcited faces saying, hmmm, great. it's like Hardy Boys for our parents!!! Avatar Imagepost-leaky-guy says: i dunno how theyre gonna do the 7th, it's ALL in the woods, but i hope that the halfway point between films (my hypothesis) is something like at the part where Ron and Harry are going to kill the locket with the sword, while it's plunging down, the 1st part ends. anyone have any other ideas?Avatar ImageHarryLight says: Hopefully there will be commentaries this time around!!!!????Avatar ImageGarden State Geek says: This is wonderful news. Avatar ImageScarStruck says: OM MY GODDDDDDDD! OM GOMG OMG OMG. IM SOOOOOOOOOOOO EXCITED (if you couldn't tell) OMG!!!!!! SQUEEEEEEEEE!Avatar Imagedave1972 says: it will just be the deleted scenes already on the dvd i thinkAvatar ImageLulubelleI says: Yes! I'm so excited!Avatar Imagepost-leaky-guy says: ok i have a question: where is the invite friends button???Avatar Imagecghambright says: OMG!!! This better be true!! I'm so excited, but I have a feeling the extended editions will just be the same versions they show on ABC Family. Still awesome though!Avatar ImageDiamondWings says: interesting...Avatar ImageJuine says: Ah so exciting! I hope there's one for OOTP, there's been a couple of behind the scene shots which weren't in the film. I really really hope this is true!Avatar Imagepost-leaky-guy says: hi... please will someone answer how to invite a friend??? where do i click?Avatar ImageDeanie says: *post-leaky-guy* Go to the persons profile and on the right is a button to invite them to be your friend.Avatar ImageDeanie says: There is so much that they may not have filmed that I want to see. I do hope the have the full scene with Dudley in his Smeltings kit. ;)Avatar ImageHermione Elizabeth says: So cool! I hope that they add in the deleted scenes in the movie like they do when they show them on ABC. That would be awesome! :)Avatar ImageFigment says: Thank you WB, it is about time. I can't wait!Avatar ImageFigment says: Thank you WB, it is about time. I can't wait!Avatar Imageplacebowiz says: finally!Avatar ImageCarinaPotter says: I would absolutely buy the extended editions if they are the ones that you see on ABC. I can't wait!Avatar ImageBlatcher914 says: At long last!! I want it all I kind of want them to just dump every last scrap of footage lying around onto it.Avatar Imagepost-leaky-guy says: haha thanks, but what is the thing you get 20 points for??? where do you invite them into the leakycauldron??? isnt that what you get points for?Avatar Imagepost-leaky-guy says: haha thanks, but what is the thing you get 20 points for??? where do you invite them into the leakycauldron??? isnt that what you get points for?Avatar Imagefloridianhp says: about time!Avatar Imagefloridianhp says: about time!Avatar ImageNoble Birth Descending says: I figured they would all come out on Blu-Ray when they released the DH DVDs and a super ultimate collection.Avatar ImageLily Evens Snape says: YAY * jumps up and down* I hope its worth it!Avatar ImageEcrof G says: It's not about time! It's about quality and quantity, something these films have been lacking in places from the get-go. Too much left out, not enough attention to cannon or detail. This is the treatment that should have been applied from the beginning.Avatar ImageMR.Curser says: WOW i cnat wait for these to come outAvatar Imagepost-leaky-guy says: hello? anyone??? how do i invite a friend onto the leaky cauldron... the one where you can get points for it?Avatar Imagepost-leaky-guy says: hello? anyone??? how do i invite a friend onto the leaky cauldron... the one where you can get points for it?Avatar ImageC_B_Mia says: Cool! i cant wait to see it.Avatar ImageLoony4ever says: That's great! So glad they're doing this! Took them long enough though!Avatar Imagecesca says: ooo this sounds so cool, cant wait!Avatar ImageWingardium Leviosa says: Exciting!Avatar Imagekylejhood says: Oh wow! This will be awesome. I hope it comes out soon.Avatar ImageTheLostPotter says: That's awesome! Hopefully that will include in the Ultimate Edition. I'm not American so I never saw the extended edition, don't know if it ever aired in the UK but if so, I hope it isn't the same one coming to DVD and that we have even more scenes not shown yet! Like that mysterious Peeves scene that was shot.Avatar ImageHydrus says: It is awesome. I'll probably let somebody else buy it this time though. Not sure I want to continue always paying out for upgrades. Maybe if they do all 8 in a boxed set.Avatar ImageFifi says: Oh I'm soooo excited!Avatar ImageHattFerg says: i hope its not the same thing as abc family is showing... that would stink if there would be no new footage!Avatar Imagetayler18 says: YES! I'm going to buy them all! ;)Avatar ImageRG93 says: Ah! I'm so excited!Avatar ImageMalfoyluva says: AWESOME! I'll buy! :-D better include good deleted scenes!Avatar Imagehermionesclone says: OMG! Eep! Can't wait! Avatar ImageBookworm_Weasley says: I hope this means that we'll get an extended version of Philosopher's Stone over here in the UK too!Avatar ImageBookworm_Weasley says: I hope this means that we'll get an extended version of Philosopher's Stone over here in the UK too!Avatar Imagekiwimci says: commentaries commentaries commentaries commentaries! Please WBAvatar Imagekiwimci says: my comment disappeared :( Le Poo well it was all about the commentaries anywayAvatar ImageAudreyLouiseLovegood says: oh squeeeeeeee!!! Avatar Imageshelbypotter says: Holy muffin, imexcitedAvatar ImageAndygirl14 says: SQUEE!Avatar Imagediablitaroja says: Amazon is listing both Sorcerer's and Chamber in Ultimate Editions but don't have release dates...Avatar ImageSindi says: cant wait!!!!!!!! Avatar Imagewandmastercalum says: I hope its got everything from the woolen socks bit because they definatley filmed that part.Avatar Imageshellscotie says: Good news! I heard the other day about Gone with the Wind "70th Anniversary Ultimate Collector's". Glad WB won't make we wait that long.Avatar ImageGinevra Molly Potter says: I hope they include all the deleted scenes we've seen in pictures during these years nicely fit in the movies, for example i have a picture of Harry and Ron, from PS movie, looking at the house points houglasses, i've always wondered about that scene, and many more, i just can't remember now. lol glad about that too, shellcotieAvatar Imagedrod@satx.rr.com says: IT'S ABOUT TIME. Beautiful news :)Avatar Imagensa says: Extended edition thats great!Avatar Imageoldenoughtoknowbetter says: @ShackShrieker... I do feel your pain...I haven't purchased anything yet... Just waiting to see how it all plays out... I will no doubt end up spending more than I wanted also!Avatar Imagebeewell says: Can't wait to get these. I own them all but I do believe that I will fork out the money for these. Never know what else they might include. I feel your pain on this ShackShrieker07...I don't have much money but all my extra is always put towards my Potter fan stuff.Avatar ImageMikaMaxwell says: I hope it's part of the special edition bluray versions that they have already announced! I don't want to have three copies of the same film, no matter how much I love it, ha ha.Avatar ImageOddape says: Now all they have to do is release the extended editions in theaters. Then it will be the epitome of awesome.Avatar Imagehewy says: It would be so cool if this were the directors cut! Can not wait for more news!!! Soon very soon is all we can hope for.Avatar Imagehewy says: It would be so cool if this were the directors cut! Can not wait for more news!!! Soon very soon is all we can hope for.Avatar Imagehewy says: It would be so cool if this were the directors cut! Can not wait for more news!!! Soon very soon is all we can hope for.Avatar Imagehewy says: It would be so cool if this were the directors cut! Can not wait for more news!!! Soon very soon is all we can hope for.Avatar Imagehewy says: It would be so cool if this were the directors cut! Can not wait for more news!!! Soon very soon is all we can hope for.Avatar ImageSol says: I hope the extended version will mean the deleted parts as shown on the disc 2 in the dvd package in the first 3 movies will b included. In Oz we have seen the Soc. Stone extended which was the deleted parts back where they should have been all along in my estimation. Back extended versions WICKED Avatar Imagesnapes_half-blood_princess says: Please give us lots of deleted scenes!!! Some added back into the movie would be great, too, kthanks! Avatar ImagePhylis says: I hope they include all scenes in all the movies. I would love to see them all.Avatar ImageJadeDanielle says: How exciting! Yay! :DAvatar ImageRavenclawGal14 says: bloopers, commentarys and deleated scenes are always my fav. they never seam to give out bloopers or commentaries thoughAvatar Imagex_Potter_Lover_Forever_x says: That's great news. I hope they have lots of stuff we haven't seen before!! However, like a few people on here. I don't like the way they do too many DVDs it makes it confusing on what to buy. I would have liked it if they done what they did with Lord of the Rings and release the ultimate collectors DVD with all three of the films, instead of one by one. :| But don't get me wrong it's still very, very cool lol! :DAvatar ImageMidnightSun321 says: ooooooooooooooh!!!!!!!!Avatar ImageHatty Bumble says: mm... Dunno if I would buy it...Avatar Imagehoras1 says: I am afraid that it will the two hours of the talking heads. Or ten minutes of juggeling oranges. I would wait and look at what others say. Or a commintery by one of the Trio.Avatar Imagegodric11 says: that's great ...........i am dying to watch themAvatar ImagexxSnapeLoverxx says: omg i can't wait!!!Avatar ImagexxSnapeLoverxx says: omg i can't wait!!!Avatar ImagexxSnapeLoverxx says: omg i can't wait!!!Avatar ImagexxSnapeLoverxx says: omg i can't wait!!!Avatar ImageFloridianFlounder95 says: Yes, they are robbing our money. but we buy it anyway, cause we feel the need to buy it. Well I do.Avatar Imagehrslvr529 says: Oh Yeah!Avatar ImagePatrickPotter says: This is awesome I can't wait. I wonder if they'll be like the LOTR extended editions, which have like 4 discs each?Avatar Imagehermyone08 says: i really hope they show more than what they show on ABC Family channel when they do Harry Potter weekends.Avatar ImageAgrippa1 says: That's terrific news! I've held off buying the BluRays or anything beyond the original releases until they released the extended editions - now the goal is in sight at last! (Sorry, ShackShrieker07 - I do feel your pain, but I'm relieved that I waited)Avatar Imagemuggle..andproudofit says: i cant wait eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!Avatar ImageBeAchL0veEr05 says: I'm so excited!!!!!!!!! =]Avatar ImageMrs.Brisby says: OMG!!!! How long have we been waiting for this!?! This is awesome news. I can't wait to get my hands on them!! I haven't replaced my old, scratched up dvd's because I've been waiting for these editions. Chamber of Secrets has gotten so bad it won't play in certain parts, lol. This is really welcome news. :)Avatar ImageAraminta1987 says: Oh I wants it SOOOOOO much! Maybe I'll wait and see if they do an extended box set.... :DAvatar ImageAsta says: wOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant wait!!!!Avatar Imagefinny says: ahaha... i only have the normal editions on dvd.. but i was thinking buying them on blu-ray... but i have other priorities and i personally intend to let the price drop meaningflully than buying them on a whim.. and yes, they are always trying to rip us off some more moneyAvatar ImagetaystarHP says: I TOLD EVERYONE THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BUT NO ONE BELIEVED ME SO HAHA HA TO ALL OF YOU WHO NEVER THOUGH THAT THE EXTRA SCENES WERE GOING TO BE RELEASED!! I am PRAYING that they include the HOSPITAL SCENE in the "Order of the Pheonix" if they release that one!Avatar Imagesairah says: Im not buying a single DVD until ALL of the movies are finished. (because you just know they will have some special ultra delux DVD package at the end of all of this) lolAvatar ImageMR.Curser says: its been a year and there is still no word. will this still happen?

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