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Posted by: Melissa
February 09, 2008, 12:04 AM

A couple of quick updates in the Lexicon case, in which J.K. Rowling and WB are trying to stop publication of an unofficial encyclopedia based on the Harry Potter Lexicon web site:

First, Steve Vander Ark, editor of the Lexicon, wrote Ansible, a prominent British fan zine, in defense of RDR Books’ case, saying, among other things, that “Part of the problem all along has been the automatic assumption on the part of many that Rowling has the right to completely control anything written about the Harry Potter world. That’s quite a huge power grab on her part and from everything I can tell, not legal.”

The letter also says: “[Dave Langford, editor of Ansible] and I are part of a subculture that lives off the creative work of others. We always try to do that in a legal and respectful way. However, if Rowling manages to extend her reach that far into our subculture, she will choke us off very quickly. And if she doesn’t, what’s to stop the next person from taking this legal precedent to even more dangerous places?”

In addition, a new opinion piece in the NYT Business section also calls the case a “power grab” and attempt to “choke” creativity by J.K. Rowling, and calls her a “copyright hog,” before going on to extensively profile Attorney Falzone and the Stanford U. Fair Use Project, which is arguing for the RDR Books’ side of the case. There is very little talk in this editorial of the merits of the actual Lexicon case or whether the book falls into fair use (in fact the article assumes that it does), only a wide and generic look at the history of copyright law and how this case may or may not fit into it.

As for the expected filings on the case: Some will come tomorrow afternoon (they will be filed overnight and take some time to process), and one exhibit, over 15MB in size, can only be filed in hard copy. That file is of some companion books already on the market, so there may not be any need to have it available for download.

We’d like to remind everyone to please be civil in the comments.

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BellaSnape

so I did say something wrong? didnt I what I didnt swear, I dont know what I did, help me please, I worry about everything, I dont want to hurt or offend anyone.

Posted by BellaSnape on February 09, 2008, 01:55 AM report to moderator
Sadie

Well, he can kiss off his so-called BNF status. No Harry Potter fan who even remotely cares about the well-being of the material presented in the series or J.K. Rowling herself would touch him with a ten foot pole now. And if any Harry Potter convention decides to hire him as a speaker, I certainly hope the fans have sense enough to boycott that convention.

It’s a shame how ugly his true colours really are. I can’t believe any self-respecting fan, especially one as ‘devoted’ to the series as he has claimed to be, would ever so blatantly disrespect Rowling and the fans by doing this.

Greedy seems to be a very appropriate word for what he’s doing. He was a librarian before this – perhaps he ought to take what dignity he has left and return to that job, instead of attempting to make his living riding on the coat tails of others.

Posted by Sadie on February 09, 2008, 01:58 AM report to moderator
Melissa

Bella, your comment was just deleted because it stepped a little too far over our TOU. Don’t worry, no offense taken. :)

Posted by Melissa on February 09, 2008, 02:00 AM report to moderator
Old Mr Toad

I wonder what ‘creative’ writing Steve has included in the book? There is nothing ‘creative’ about his work on his web site lexicon. It’s all JKR’s work. Yes, he’s done a nice job compiling all that stuff, but it’s still all Jo’s. Not his.

And now the answer to my query elsewhere as to how he feels about this is revealed. He’s into RDR’s suit up to his ears.

I’ve removed all trace of the Lexicon from my pc. Nor will I purchase the book if it’s ever published. He seems like such a nice person too. (sigh)

OMT

Posted by Old Mr Toad on February 09, 2008, 02:04 AM report to moderator
BellaSnape

what does TOU mean I am still learning computer talk- I am kind of a newbe at posting, I dont know much.

Posted by BellaSnape on February 09, 2008, 02:05 AM report to moderator
Old Mr Toad

Yes Tyler, the NYT is extremely good at telling half truths in it’s editorial pages.

OMT.

Posted by Old Mr Toad on February 09, 2008, 02:07 AM report to moderator
Mountain Violet

TOU=Terms of Use, Bella. Did you, I don’t know, use a naughty word in your first post?

Posted by Mountain Violet on February 09, 2008, 02:08 AM report to moderator
Old Mr Toad

Bella,

TOU Terms Of Use

OMT

Posted by Old Mr Toad on February 09, 2008, 02:10 AM report to moderator
Mountain  Violet

“That’s quite a huge power grab on her part and from everything I can tell, not legal.”

Any last shred of sympathy I might have had for Mr. Vander Ark’s case has just disappeared. His lawyers must be banging their heads against the wall.

Posted by Mountain Violet on February 09, 2008, 02:13 AM report to moderator
BellaSnape

sort of Mountain Violet, didnt mean to – my mind kind of took hold of my fingers but it wasnt complete, I had a star in place of something- but I wont do it again, like I said I learn something new all the time- I would never do anything like that on purpose. I just curse alittle when I get mad sometimes. I ‘ll control myself though- first and last time it will happen. Thanks for informing me though it helped alot your so nice!

Posted by BellaSnape on February 09, 2008, 02:14 AM report to moderator
Felipe

Honestly, I was hoping that RDR Books was manipulating Steve or that he was under contract so he couldn’t get out of the lawsuit. I was hoping… Now everyone can clearly see that Steve Vander Ark is either an UNINTELLIGENT person that does not understand that the HP Lexicon is not creative work and he is obviously infringing Copyright, or he is just plainly a big GOLD DIGGING HOG and a CROOK. (Melissa you better be happy with my language because honestly if it wasn’t out of respect for you and the Leaky’s very reputable web site and staff, I would’ve just called him an a*ole, which he most definitely seems to be…)

Jo and WB’s Lawyers: CRUSH HIM and RDR BOOKS! They disgust me. Then join me for a round of drinks at the Steve Vander Ark’s Head pub in Hogsmeade.

Posted by Felipe on February 09, 2008, 02:18 AM report to moderator
Fer_keeper

OK, is it just me who thinks everytime Steve opens his mouth things start getting uglier for him? is so going to make herself a T-shirt saying “Down with Standford”

Posted by Fer_keeper on February 09, 2008, 02:20 AM report to moderator
Mountain Violet

No worries, Bella. I swear like a sailor myself; just not in front of my children or here on TLC (which is nearly the same thing).

Posted by Mountain Violet on February 09, 2008, 02:21 AM report to moderator
BellaSnape

That is what I did – the same thing Felipe did in her/ his post , not trying to point you out but you did the same little star thing I did, in your curse.

Posted by BellaSnape on February 09, 2008, 02:23 AM report to moderator
marillawhite

oh man, this just gets nastier and nastier! that’s really unfortunate…

Posted by marillawhite on February 09, 2008, 02:25 AM report to moderator
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