Daniel Radcliffe Laments “Heartbreaking” Recent Teen Suicides

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Oct 04, 2010

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MTV has an article today with a written statement from Dan Radcliffe (Harry Potter) in the wake of the recent suicides of Tyler Clementi and 13-year-old Seth Walsh.

The actor gave the following written statement to MTV News:

Learning about the suicide deaths of Tyler Clementi, Seth Walsh, Asher Walker, Billy Lucas and Justin Aaberg has been heartbreaking for me. These young people were bullied and tormented by people that should have been their friends. We have a responsibility to be better to each other, and accept each others’ differences regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity, race, ability, or religion and stand up for someone when they’re bullied.

Speaking further about the “responsibility to be better to each other,” Radcliffe continued with some advice for those concerned about depressed and suicidal friends or family members:

When a friend is feeling depressed or says they’re thinking of killing themselves, we must take it seriously and get them help. [...] My deepest sympathies go out to the families and friends of these excellent young people. And to all the young people who are being bullied right now, you are not alone. Call the Trevor Lifeline at 866 4-U-TREVOR, because there’s always someone there who will listen and who can help.

Dan Radcliffe has previously taken part in a PSA for the Trevor Project and spoke in February about his involvement with the nationwide suicide prevention telephone helpline for gay, lesbian,
bisexual, transgender, and questioning (GLBTQ) youth in the United
States. The 24/7 Trevor Helpline can be contacted in the United States by calling 866-4-U-TREVOR (866-488-7386).





106 Responses to Daniel Radcliffe Laments “Heartbreaking” Recent Teen Suicides

Avatar Imageccking says: this great, go Dan. Those deaths were unnecessary and horrible.Avatar Imagecmc110 says: I love Daniel Radcliffe so much more than I possibly could for what he believes in! you are amazing Dan! Thank You!! Avatar Imagecmc110 says: I love Daniel Radcliffe so much more than I possibly could for what he believes in! you are amazing Dan! Thank You!! Avatar ImageSmitch says: That's awesome. We need more young celebs doing things like this, instead of making fools of themselves in front of the camera. That's why I admire Dan, Rupert, Emma, and the rest of the young cast. They are great role models! Avatar ImageJK.jr. says: I love daniel Radcliff, way to stand up for your beliefs. Thank you for speaking.Avatar Imagemystiqueminx says: He s got the heart in the right place ,,,,Avatar Imagetaoist1 says: Well said. Help each other and stand up for those who need help.Avatar ImageBlack_wind says: Daniel is such an amazing guy.Avatar ImageLiderc says: I honestly think Dan is a great person, which is strange, it's often hard to tell with celebs these days if they are doing this as a career move or because they genuinely care and I believe he does.Avatar Imagecallicott3 says: Dan is a one in a million. He doesn't care a bout being "a celebrity" or any of the "perks" that go along with that "title"....but, like the decent human being he is, he uses that title for good. If anyone can shine a light, on this, a celebrity can. And who better, than Dan....or JKR....or Emma....or Rupert.? or any one and so should we all. Good for you, Dan! A true celebrity voice, that cannot be equaled.Avatar ImageParkinsonpansy says: this is why of love dan hes so sweet and its sad to think those boys killed themselvesAvatar ImageSindi says: Wow Dan is an amazing person. Way to go Dan :) I love everything he is doing for these kids. Keep it up. Avatar ImageCanadianGryffindor_96 says: I saw this and I knew I had to comment. For the past year I have been struggling with depression and at one point I was very suicidal. It was all because of bullying. What got me through was my faith, my family and my Harry Potter obsession. When I had nowhere to go, I would turn on my WizardRock/AVPM playlist until I felt better. When I saw this, it was kind of like somehow my Harry Potter obsession was acknowledging that it knew what it got me through. So thank you JK Rowling for inspiring my creativity in writing, thank you Daniel Radcliffe for helping to speak out on this topic, thank you to all the other fans out there who supported my obsession and got me through. Thanx!Avatar ImageCanadianGryffindor_96 says: I saw this and I knew I had to comment. For the past year I have been struggling with depression and at one point I was very suicidal. It was all because of bullying. What got me through was my faith, my family and my Harry Potter obsession. When I had nowhere to go, I would turn on my WizardRock/AVPM playlist until I felt better. When I saw this, it was kind of like somehow my Harry Potter obsession was acknowledging that it knew what it got me through. So thank you JK Rowling for inspiring my creativity in writing, thank you Daniel Radcliffe for helping to speak out on this topic, thank you to all the other fans out there who supported my obsession and got me through. Thanx!Avatar ImageCanadianGryffindor_96 says: I saw this and I knew I had to comment. For the past year I have been struggling with depression and at one point I was very suicidal. It was all because of bullying. What got me through was my faith, my family and my Harry Potter obsession. When I had nowhere to go, I would turn on my WizardRock/AVPM playlist until I felt better. When I saw this, it was kind of like somehow my Harry Potter obsession was acknowledging that it knew what it got me through. So thank you JK Rowling for inspiring my creativity in writing, thank you Daniel Radcliffe for helping to speak out on this topic, thank you to all the other fans out there who supported my obsession and got me through. Thanx!Avatar ImageWeasleyIsMyKing3 says: I love hime even more for this. Amazing.Avatar ImageFresca says: Thank you for your stand, Daniel. If anyone out there is being bullied, tell someone! And keep telling people until someone helps you. No one deserves to be put down by bullies. If you are suicidal, please get help. The world needs caring individuals, and your families and friends need you. Avatar ImageSnapesRose says: For a Young Celebrity to speak out about this problem, the epidemic that has been going on for eons, is wonderful, though sad, because it is going on. Bullying no matter what, or why is not right, it's cowardice, plain and simple. I hope that everyone that gets caught bullying, gets expelled over and over again until they learn that such behavior is unacceptable. Just because a person is different is no excuse, none! I was bullied in school and its still with me. I am glad and grateful that Daniel Radcliffe spoke up and out about his support. Thank you! Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: The only thing is that half the people who say they are going to kill themselves are just seeking attention an/or want to be dramatic. Also, I know this will be a contraversial issue (but here goes), I don;t agree with suicide, no matter what the circumstances are. I don't care if you're being bullied or if you've been through some other sort of hardship, they're is no excuse for it...Avatar Imagegreenfinch says: Thank you so much, Daniel Radcliffe. This means so much to the lgbtq community, so much more than I think people realize, because any support at all helps. People struggling through bullying in high school are looking up to you for this, and it's wonderful to know someone of such a caliber really cares.Avatar ImageSohumdore says: good job dan!Avatar ImageAstoria Lane says: thank you dan for helping spread awareness of the horrors that occur to our friends in the community who are bullied for being themselves. Avatar ImageAstoria Lane says: It is not right for people to treat others in such horrendous ways! Avatar Imagemoonysmusician says: I am extremely hopeful, since these horrible events are gaining so much publicity. One of my professors is connected to Tyler Clementi and the issue affects me strongly. I'm proud that a stand can come from someone connected to us, and let's hope that the fact this is coming to public attention means that people will actively try to stop it. Avatar ImageAradius says: It's good to see someone who is so very much loved with teens and young adults taking a stand. WTG DanAvatar Imagejacket says: It's really awfull when someone kills themselves and I think it's great that there are people trying to help. Avatar Imagemoglet says: @MJBDE 15, I think your comments are very naive and very hurtful. You obviously have no idea of the depths of depression that bullying can cause. sometimes people end up feeling like there is nowhere left to go, no one they can turn to who will understand the things they are feeling and people who hold the kind of views that you express are part of the problem too, that lack of understanding is part of what makes those who are deeply depressed and suicidal feel so isolated. Dan is such a decent and good person, to speak up time and again over these kinds of issues, you can tell that it really matters to him, he has the ability to empathise and truly wants to make people aware. Discrimination is a terrible thing and there are so many people who use differences to pick on others causing untold grief and despair. Thank you Dan for caring.Avatar ImageValeria-Johanna says: Well said, Moglet.Avatar ImageBeksey_S says: this is what celebrities should be doing! i totally agree with smitch!Avatar ImageHBPFan says: Reading this article makes me think of so many things I could write, but it would be quite long, so I'll just say this. If anyone is being bullied, you aren't alone - there are people who will help you. Don't be afraid to seek help. And my thoughts go to the families of all the children who have commited suicide because someone else made them feel like they had no future in this world.Avatar ImageFleur-de- Lily says: Wow Dan is an amazing person. Way to go Dan :) I love everything he is doing for these kids. Keep it up.Avatar ImageKeaHellstorm says: It's funny how Harry Potter is a great person himself, and so it is Daniel...Avatar Imagemew5645 says: good job danAvatar Imagemew5645 says: good job danAvatar ImageHogwartsHP says: Dan is a wonderful person, I admire him !§! This is not normal that today, we must prove that we are like this or like this...!§!Avatar ImageNot Slytherin says: I'm so glad this issue is getting national coverage, and it's people like Dan who are keeping up the message of hope. This is a human rights crisis, and we cannot allow bullying of LGBTQP people to continue! My sympathies go out to the families of these victims -- and for anyone currently being harassed, I promise you, you are not alone.Avatar Imageksddancer says: This is so great what Dan is doing. I heard about these and I started to cry. They didn't have to loose their lives. My thoughts and prayers are with their familiy and friends.Avatar ImageJane_Potter says: Daniel is so great and amazing!!! Love you Dan!!!Avatar ImageLillylove says: Once again, Dan shows there is so much more to him than Harry Potter. We are fortunate he is in our lifetime - he is such a good example for young people (well, & older folks as well!). Avatar Imagekbicprez says: I read all the comments here and I don’t have anything new to add. I agree with everyone – Dan is a very special person. THANK YOU Dan & everyone else who is speaking out against bullying.Avatar Imageeccentricalice says: He's truly amazing, using his fame to highlight the issues that are facing people today. I have depression, and I have attempted suicide, and it's a truly horrible state. Well done Dan, for speaking out about these issues.Avatar Imagetaoist1 says: This is very sad and inspiring at the same time. I read all the comments and it's great to see so many people support Dan's views. The sad thing about this is that the 'bullies' are usually victims to. Whether it be from a unhealthy home environment or from being bullied themselves. This message needs to get back to the parents. That is where it begins and ends. Peace !Avatar Imagebudgie says: The Potter Universe is an amazing and good bunch of folks too. Bless you Dan.Avatar Imageznachki says: @CanadianGryffindor - I'm so glad that you are here! @MJBD - If things seem so bad to someone that contemplating suicide is seen as an option, what is needed is our help and compassion. Not our opinion. I'd like to let everyone know about another project that has come about in response to the recent suicides. It is the "It Gets Better Project", which was started by another Dan - Dan Savage. The You Tube channel has posts by the famous and not so famous, and lets LGBTQ youth know that it does get better. The stories are inspiring, and worth checking out.Avatar ImageGryffindor_Girl_xx says: Dan is such a good person. He's really genuine and kind ... Go Dan!! x)Avatar Imagetim_2006 says: I wonder how many people kill themselves because their family is so religiously conservative?Avatar Imagetim_2006 says: Seems to me many christians groups are to be blamed for their horrible treatment to lgb individualsAvatar Imagetim_2006 says: Maybe it is time to lock up parents that have gay sons and daughtersAvatar Imagesnowyowl77 says: Good point, moglet. I cannot believe what MJBDE15 wrote. He totally missed the point. @MJBDE15: How is it possible that hearing of such a tragedy the first thing that hits your mind are these kind of thoughts? I'd say that these teens probably suffered in silence and ended up with this extreme deed because they couldn't see a way out. Being bullied is horrible. People who just like to make you feel an outcast because of a so-called diversity. I cannot believe how this phenomenon is growing. Isn't there any respect at all? Avatar ImageZoeyLuna says: Thank you so very much, Dan. Your genuine spirit and kind words will have an enormous impact on many, many people today. We need to spread awareness about the bullying epidemic - something I've unfortunately had to experience not only in my childhood, but very recently as an adult as well. It is a widespread problem in schools, community, and in the workplace too.Avatar Imagekbicprez says: @moglet & others, Thank you for pointing out MJDBE15’s comments. His/her comments are further proof of what ignorance and roaches have in common. Both have been around for a long time and both will outlive us all. Avatar Imageigo2pigfarts says: Right on, Dan! I loved you already, and now I love you even more! (:Avatar ImageWeenyOwl says: Bullying has been around probably forever, but one thing that a lot of the recent bullying-related suicides have in common is abuse by the perpetrators of our society's recent advances in media, especially social media like MySpace and FaceBook. It appalls me that so many people use these tools as a way to put other people down. If the new movie about the founding of FaceBook is to be believed, the whole motivation for its creation was to ostracize girls who were not perceived as 'hot' enough. Even if that's not how it really happened, it's still obviously being used that way by thousands, perhaps millions of young people. It all seems to me like part of a growing tide of free-floating hostility in our culture. Civil dialogue seems to have gone out the window. What have we become? Think about this trend too much and it's enough to put anybody in a suicidal mood. Then again, Leaky is also a social network, which provides a ray of hope that it doesn't have to be this way. The Potter fandom really seems like a community knit together by positive energy - a belief that love truly is the most powerful form of magick. I hope that everyone out there who reads these boards will make a mental commitment to take a leaf from Dan Radcliffe and confront bullying and intolerance wherever you encounter it. For instance, if you hear a friend of yours use the word 'gay' as an insult (which seems to be very common usage among youth nowadays), call them on it immediately! Don't ever let intolerant behavior seem like the normal, accepted way to act. Taoist1 correctly points out that kids who get bullied sometimes react by becoming bullies themselves, once they're not so little anymore - the same way that abused children often grow up to become child abusers. It takes courage to stand up and say, 'The vicious cycle breaks here, with me.' My teenage son, who has his own history of being bullied, has just joined the Diversity Committee and the Gay/Straight Alliance at his high school, even though he knows that it may invite yet more taunting from the kids who don't like him. I'm so proud of him! And I'm proud to be part of a fandom that consists of so many people who think seriously about issues like these and are ready to do what they can on a daily basis to make the world a little better place. I'd love to hear other Leaky readers' suggestions about things we can do to make sure that more of these tragedies don't happen in our communities!Avatar Imagewandmastercalum says: Dan is such a nice person. Its a horrible thing to read about when people hate life so much that they take it away for themselves. Murder is bad enough but suicide is just so sad.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @moglet [ITC!] I'd like to point out that you don't know me, end of discussion.Avatar Imagemoglet says: @MJBDE15 True I don't know you but you can't deny what you wrote, it was very insensitive, and you may have noticed a number of people have totally agreed with me in what I said about your comments, you really do need to think before you make such a statement. Maybe you've never known a family which has been left in the most terrible grief when a much loved person has commited suicide, I have unfortunately known of this on 2 occasions. I've also had a friend who was clinically depressed who could not see a way to ever feel better, she spoke of suicide as a way out, and she was not trying to gain attention or be dramatic, she was in such a low state that she felt she could not go on like that indefinitely, fortunately she received treatment which eventually did work, it took a long time to find the thing which worked for her.Avatar ImageNumeroUnoFan says: when i read about tyler in usa today i wondered when Dan and the Trevor people were going to respond publiclyAvatar Imageravenclawgirl123 says: @MJBDE15: I agree with Moglet. That's a horrible thing for you to say, these people may feel that no one understand them and they could be depressed about something, and they may suicide is the only option for them, and it's not fair for you to say things like that. Avatar Imageravenclawgirl123 says: *they may feelAvatar ImageMr. Brightside says: I have to say i agree with both Moglet and WeenyOwl, as well as everyone else who expressed similar opinions as theirs. I've been in that situation, for a variety of reasons, and it's not something to be treated in such a manner as MJBDE15 reacted. Completely insensitive. Kudos to Dan for raising awareness about this. Avatar ImageMarcus175 says: Wow that's great. It's so important that people hear this message, thanks Dan!Avatar Imageharrypotterfreak101 says: I heard it on the news! It was all over CNN. That is just ridiculous, I mean no one is perfect in this world. That doesn't mean we should taunt those differences. If the world were totally perfect, our lives would be horribly boring. What Dan said was totally correct. My heart goes out to those families that have lost a loved one.Avatar Image1crazymuggle says: Dan you are just amazing! You have touched many people who read this message. Thanks for helping people across the world! Avatar Imagepigwey says: Bullying anyone for who they are is absolutely unacceptable. these people chose to be themselves and all they needed was support, and acceptance. it is sad that we live in a superficial and hypocritical world. you have people telling you to be yourself no matter what and then you got people who will ruin you from the inside out. rest in peace guys. Avatar ImageGiant Squid says: Daniel Radcliffe is and amazing actor, role model and person!Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @ moglet [ITC!] I would again like to point out, you don;t know me, but let us delve into my life a bit more, shall we? I moved to the US from, lets just say, a far off country that many people have conflicting views about. My parents were both born in the States and their parents before them. However, growing up in a different country entails, of course, different customs and ways of thinking. My 3rd and 4th grade years were ok, but i moved to a new town when i went to 5th, so obviously people were closed minded about anyone new. I got sooooooooooo much crap for being different. But guess what? I didn;t go and kill myself because "life was just too hard when no one liked me." I was strong enough to get over it and rise above them, and guess what happened? They backed off with their tails between their legs because i wouldnt take any more of their abuse. Now you may all say I am incensative, and maybe in some cases thats true, and im not going to make judgements about youre guys opinions cause it would be hopeless to try and persuade you to see my view of things. I would also like to point out that I do feel sorry for the loss that the family and friends of these kids suffered, but if they were too weak to stand up for themselves then what else is there for me to say?Avatar Imagecritterfur says: Hearing this news about Daniel Radcliffe really touched me deeply. I'm 35 years old now, and from the ages of 7 to about 13 I was bullied horribly, to the point that it still scars me today. The bullying I got wasn't necessarily a punch in the face, or a kick in the back, it was a constant, daily wearing down of my self-respect, my dignity, and my pride. It was public humiliation on a daily basis, to the point that I had to see therapists, went on medication, and had to go into a mental health clinic for a month because I was suicidal. The problem with bullying is that it's so ingrained into the very nature of human beings...it's the savage side of us left over from our more primitive days, the side of us that believes we have to weed out the "weak" from the pack, survival of the fittest. Not only do many children look the other way when their peers get bullied (often for fear of being bullied themselves for supporting an unpopular kid), but I'm sorry to say that many adults stand by and let bullying continue. Either former bullies teach their children that bullying is okay (by example or by abusing or bullying the children themselves), or some adults believe that bullying is a rite of passage, something which "toughens kids up". Some teachers looked the other way at my school when bullying went on (and I didn't get it nearly as bad as some of my classmates did). When you combine the fact that I was already predisposed to have clinical depression (it runs in my family...my mother has it, and one of my cousins actually did commit suicide), and add to it the isolation that bullying creates, where you feel you have no one looking out for you, then sometimes, as irrational as it may seem, suicide seems like a viable option. It's hard to explain to someone who hasn't been there, or who feels that people who commit suicide are somehow "weak"...that's like saying that rape victims are weak, or children that are emotionally or sexually abused are weak...you can't always fight back. I did get in two pretty major fistfights in my youth, when the bullies pushed me too far, and those fights didn't solve anything...they just let the bullies know that they could get a reaction out of me and drag me down to their level. I'm not gay myself, but I had a gay friend in high school (we actually became friends over a mutual love of comic books, and I didn't even learn he was gay until later on). I was subjected to abuse simply because I was friends with him, and I can't imagine the grief he himself must have suffered. I just want everyone out there who's been bullied, or feels they're alone or without any other options, to know that there are people like me who've been through it, and that they're never alone. Sorry for the long-winded message, but Dan Radcliffe's statement really moved me, and I felt the need to respond. Avatar Imagesanjuangelina says: Many people say that the actors of Harry Potter are not as good and nice as they were before...........let them say it now! Daniel is so good and kind......he's really helpful and down to earth........good job Dan........my sympathies to the families who lost them and to all those who are being bullied........stand up for yourselves, you're not alone........let us all help those who are facing problems....... Peace and love, SanjuAvatar ImageLeper says: Good man, Dan.Avatar ImageSlyBones says: "We have a responsibility to be better to each other, and accept each others' differences regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity, race, ability, or religion..." Smartest thing I've ever heard. He's so awesome.Avatar Imagejimmalou78 says: MJBDE15 ^HISS:"I got sooooooooooo much crap for being different. But guess what? I didn;t go and kill myself because “life was just too hard when no one liked me.” I was strong enough to get over it and rise above them, and guess what happened..." Well, well, well. Aren't you the better one, because you were strong enough to get over it and rise above them?! Everyone is built differently, be it physically or mentally. The majority of people who get harassed, bullied, abused, or just are depressed in general can't just 'get over it'. There are medicines, counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists, and support groups to help those with problems. Telling someone to just 'get over it' is the WORST possible thing you can tell someone in those situations! It is NOT a failure for someone to get help with a problem. If you rose above your situation and got your bullies to back down, then good for you. But not everyone is like that, not every situation is the same, and you are being insensitive and judgemental! I've fought depression all my life. I finally had to break down and get help. I am glad that I did, because I was seriously thinking about suicide. It wasn't me just 'being dramatic and wanting attention'. Apparently, these teenagers felt that there was NO other way out; no way to live in their situation. It can be so overwhelming. I truly wished that they had found someone or something to help them instead of ending their lives. I am glad that Daniel spoke out about these tragedies, and I echo his sentiments. GET HELP. Call a hotline, speak to a counselor. Let someone know who can help you. Avatar ImageZoeyLuna says: To MJBDE15: Thank you for sharing your story. I don't want to judge you (or anyone), I just want to talk about what many may perceive as 'weakness'. There is a fundamental difference between bullying survivors (like you and I for instance) versus the tragedies we've seen here. Despite the circumstances, you and I still had a tiny shred of hope and the mental clarity to see the fickle reasons behind the bullying, meaning that we were eventually able to look within ourselves and stand on the solid foundation of our self-esteem in order to get through it. However, that doesn't always come as easily for everyone.. When you combine bullying with a victim that is clinically depressed, a person who knows no hope, or perhaps even feels *at fault* for everything that's going on, the situation changes drastically. For a person living with this condition - in a world that only knows despair, fear, and loneliness, the mental clarity that I previously mentioned is practically absent. The mind is completely overwhelmed by what seems like an eternal catastrophe. I can sit here and describe it in words, but it's *nothing* compared to how it feels for them. From my own perspective, I just cannot see it as weakness. I'm very thankful for organizations like The Trevor Lifeline, which can be a beacon of light to those who are lost in the deep, penetrating fog of depression.Avatar Imagemoglet says: @MBDJE15 "im not going to make judgements about youre guys opinions cause it would be hopeless to try and persuade you to see my view of things." But you seem to think it's alright to be judgemental about those you perceive as weak. I'm very glad you got through your tough times and thank you for explaining your thoughts, but please understand that all people are different and you cannot dismiss those who have been driven to the depths of despair as weak. @ZoeyLuna, you have made an important point very well.Avatar Imagepigwey says: people..LOVE IS LOUDER THAN HATE. there are always, always, always gonna be people who have good heads on their shoulders, accepting others' differences and embrace each otherAvatar ImageAlice Weasley says: It warms my heart to know that Dan would take the time out of his busy schedule to address this issue and let those being bullied know that they have somewhere to turn. And for those who are being bullied I would say keep your chin up! I guarantee there are people who love you, even if bullies have made you forget that. Let's find a way to eradicate this problem!!!Avatar ImageFleur-de- Lily says: Well saidAvatar ImageWeenyOwl says: Critterfur, jimmalou78, ZoeyLuna and Moglet, thank you all for your thoughtful contributions to this discussion. I want to chime in by saying that I too have had times in my life when I came close to the suicide threshold, and I have lost two friends and one relative to suicide. I can testify that it has nothing to do with being a drama queen or with being weak-willed. When you are in that mental place of extreme depression, it's like being tortured. Getting attention is the last thing on your mind. All you are feeling is 'Make it stop! Just make it stop now!' And it's your off-kilter brain chemistry that is putting you in that place, not your 'attitude.' You can't just 'buck up' and 'decide' not to feel that way, any more than you can 'decide' to change your skin or eye color. (Luckily it's not usually as permanent a condition, but that's very, very difficult to see from the inside.) You can, however, get help, whether it's talking therapy, antidepressant medication or a combination of the two. (Many people find that vigorous exercise is of some help as well, because it helps your adrenal system pump out those sanity-saving endorphins.) But first you need to be in a place where you are able to reach out and ask for that help. It's extremely difficult for people who are bullied, who may feel that they have no allies in the world, to do that. Just one person on the outside who makes the effort to communicate with a person suffering from depression might just end up saving a life. (That's why I'm still disappointed in JKR for making it all right for the Hogwarts kids to ostracize Cho! She just needed someone who would listen.) And don't forget that millions of people also don't have health insurance that covers the cost of mental health treatments. That deters a lot of depressives from seeking help. One thing that everyone in America should be aware of is that almost every county has a not-for-profit Mental Health Association whose mission is to treat everyone who needs help, regardless of their ability to pay. I used to work for one, and I can tell you that they are amazing and deserve our support. If you need help, just look them up in the phone book or online. Meanwhile, in the specific case of bullying, I agree with the folks who have pointed out that way too many people, including adults who should know better, passively condone bullying. They either turn a blind eye to it or take that horrible 'It'll toughen you up for real life' attitude. We all need to see that bullying is war and 'ethnic cleansing' and genocide in miniature. If we don't each individually take a stand that people being mean to each other is NOT an acceptable standard for life either in school or in the real world, then the world has no hope of ever becoming a place worth living in.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @ZoeyLuna THANK YOU!!! @moglet [ITC!] I'm not judgemental, remember the "i'm different" part of the story? i said that I can sometimes be inscensative and i have no problem in admitting to that. Now being one of those times, I will say that yes, I find those who coomit sucide weak. Why do so many dang people in the world care what everyone else thinks? I just don;t get it! Why is it so important for people to have the approval of everyone around them?! It's stupid AND a waste of time! It's just not realistic, if everyone went and got depressed ro killed themselves because someone mafe them feel unworthy or whatever, then the human race would be extinct! And another thing, if these people were "brave" enough to kill themselves, how is it that they weren't brave enough to stand up to those who were makeing them feel like crap?Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @ZoeyLuna THANK YOU!!! @moglet [ITC!] I'm not judgemental, remember the "i'm different" part of the story? i said that I can sometimes be inscensative and i have no problem in admitting to that. Now being one of those times, I will say that yes, I find those who coomit sucide weak. Why do so many dang people in the world care what everyone else thinks? I just don;t get it! Why is it so important for people to have the approval of everyone around them?! It's stupid AND a waste of time! It's just not realistic, if everyone went and got depressed ro killed themselves because someone mafe them feel unworthy or whatever, then the human race would be extinct! And another thing, if these people were "brave" enough to kill themselves, how is it that they weren't brave enough to stand up to those who were makeing them feel like crap?Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @ZoeyLuna THANK YOU!!! @moglet [ITC!] I'm not judgemental, remember the "i'm different" part of the story? i said that I can sometimes be inscensative and i have no problem in admitting to that. Now being one of those times, I will say that yes, I find those who coomit sucide weak. Why do so many dang people in the world care what everyone else thinks? I just don;t get it! Why is it so important for people to have the approval of everyone around them?! It's stupid AND a waste of time! It's just not realistic, if everyone went and got depressed ro killed themselves because someone mafe them feel unworthy or whatever, then the human race would be extinct! And another thing, if these people were "brave" enough to kill themselves, how is it that they weren't brave enough to stand up to those who were makeing them feel like crap?Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: sorry it got posted 3 times, comp not workingAvatar Imagemoglet says: @MJBDE15 please read what WeenyOwl has written. I still think it is judgemental on your part to say that anyone who considers or commits suicide is weak, you would seem to have absolutely no understanding of what clinical depression does to people. WeenyOwl explains it very well, I am glad that you got through what you had to cope with, truly I am, and I also hope that you never have to experience real depression in your life, it is a terrible thing and nobody chooses to have it.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @moglet [ITC!] What was the point in asking me to read that post? It only repeated what you said except in different words. And as I recall the conversation this conversation is about people who are being bullied commiting sucide, not about clinical depression patients commiting suicide. Also, I don't see any answers to my questions from my last post, which leads me to beleive that you have no answers, therefore this conversation is moot.Avatar Imagemoglet says: Being bullied can lead to depression, a feeling of worthlessness so it is relevant. I thought perhaps the different wording in what WeenyOwl wrote was rather more eloquent than my posts, which is why I'd asked you to read what they said. To try to answer the questions, people do care about what others think of them to different degrees, some people are born with a greater ability to dismiss what others think and some are not. We have to try to understand that the world is made up of many different types of people and some are simply more resilient than others, it's not a character flaw to be one of those who is more affected by what others say, it's just a fact of life that people are different. Human beings are amazingly diverse and there will therefore be a great many differing reactions to stressful situations. I don't think most people want everyone to approve of them, but encountering hateful behaviour day after day and the cyber bullying that means there is very little chance to escape from it, is too much for some people to bear. To be constantly put down, to be belittled and treated as someone who doesn't matter is a lot to cope with. I can see that we are obviously never going to agree on this but hope that the dialogue has made everyone think about this issue. Additionally I don't think I ever said anything about bravery in any of my posts, suicide is a desperately sad thing for someone to do, and it is not helpful to anyone to condemn them as weak.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: Let me just point out that I don't necessarily TELL them they are weak, I just feel strongly that anyone can stand up for themselves if they stopped careing what everyone else thought. I know, you say not everyone does, but is that really true? Repeated insults would make anyone self conciuos, no matter how self assured they were at first. It's a natural human reaction, THEY CARE TOO MUCH. I stopped careing and fought back, and i feel that i am better for it. And youre right, we will never agree, you think that people who commit suicide should be felt sorry for, and i think that they are weak and a waste of time. I admit though, it is sad that they felt to much that they were worthless to see the bigger picture that there might ACTUALLY be a reason for them to be here. But they couldn't handle the pressure and get over it long enough for them to see that they had a bigger reason for being here. EVERYONE goes through bulllying, weather nerd or popular, you just have to put your foot down before they realize that they can walk all over you.Avatar Imageglow_freak says: Dan is so great for this. He's just amazing.Avatar Imageglow_freak says: Dan is so great for this. He's just amazing.Avatar ImageSusmita singh says: Well said Dan.Avatar ImageRainbowSnidget says: Yay for Dan!! Maybe he and the other stars would make an "It Gets Better" project video!Avatar ImageZoeyLuna says: @MJBDE15: I read your newest posts, and I hope I can help give some insight on your questions. Those who are driven to suicidal ideations and actions as a result of bullying are usually suffering from very serious chemical imbalances in the brain. The feelings of worthlessness in depressed people are actually born within themselves first. You know how sometimes you leave your house, and you can't remember if you locked the front door or not? It makes you uneasy all day, and usually you just can't stop thinking about it no matter how hard you try (until you get home). Just like an obsessive thought about whether or not the door is locked, the question of whether or not his or her existence is worthless is a never-ending, constant entity - it just doesn't stop, *ever*. When confronted by a bully, all of these feelings and thoughts of worthlessness become instantly validated. Validation is *very* powerful, too - to the point that for these folks, it provides the ultimate "proof" that turns their distorted questions and suspicions into solid facts. It's not so much that they 'care' about what others think, as it is about validation - they could live in the most nurturing, loving environment and still be unable to see outside their own world of anguish and confusion. Someone very close to me is actually in that exact situation - it's taken me a great deal of research and learning to understand not only how she interprets her surroundings, but also to answer the question as to why my family's affections never seemed good enough. This new insight has truly changed me as a person - I can't even begin to describe how huge of a difference the simple act of awareness can make in our world. :)Avatar Imagejeannemcl says: MJBDE 15, do you really believe that an 11-year-old is "weak" if he commits suicide after being tormented? TORMENTED!! You say you fought back. Well, good for you. Don't compare everyone else to yourself. We are all different. We have different abilities to withstand torture.And bullying is a form of torture. People who say that bullying is really just teasing have no clue. I too was bullied for years in school, not because I'm gay, but because I was always overweight. And I think that the most interesting part of your post is that you say you stopped caring what other people think about you. THAT isn't really a strength. THAT is sad.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @ZoeyLuna That doesn;t change the fact that many people who say they are in these positions are really just using it as a means of getting attention. I've known far too many people who used the real stories of bullied teens to get attention. I will always be biased because more often then not the people who I've talked to who said they were bullied and "Suicidal" were just being dramatic cause they wanted more attention. I am not saying that every suicidal person is seeking attention, I'm just stating that the majority of people are. Thank you for explaining the reasons for your opinions, but I'm never going to be able to look at someone who says they are depressed without thinking that they are lying, it's just not possible. Avatar Imagekbicprez says: @MJBDE15, I’ve been reading your comments and the responses you’ve gotten. Some good-hearted Leaky posters have spent a lot of effort trying to dissuade you. I think they should stop trying. You talk about the town you moved to and say the people were closed-minded. Going by your posts, I can’t help but think you are also closed-minded. You say the majority of people who talk of suicide are lying just to get attention. Unless you’re citing some scientific study, how can you possibly know that? I belong to a race that is routinely stereotyped by people who should know better. It drives me up the wall when I hear others make gross misstatements about people they do not know!!! What happened with Tyler Clementi and others is really very sad. It’s a shame you feel you have to demean them.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @KB Prez [ROAR!] Hmmm... I beleive I said PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, you obviously need to re read my post. Also, i agreed that people should stop trying to change my point of view and I would stop trying to persuade them to see my side, again, you OBVIOUSLY need to re read the posts.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @KB Prez [ROAR!] By the way your roaches/ignorance statement was very creative, congratulations.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: To whomever it may concern: I'm bored with this discussion. I will make everyone happy by saying "I'm wrong, judgemental, and incensative while you are all right, saintly, and perfect role models." Can we be done now?Avatar ImageethanHP says: We are so lucky to have such a wonderful young man like Dan representing the HP franchise. These books and movies have a huge following so lets hope all this helps to stop this tragedy. It's really sad we are living in the XXI century already and there are still people bulling others to the point of making them wish to die... I know how depression feels, and it's very difficult but we have to keep living, death is not the solution, there is always a light at the end of the tunnel. Don't be afraid to ask for help. To your family, friends or if you feel alone, there are great organitations like The Trevor Proyect that can help you! Please, ask for help, don't think you are alone!Avatar ImageWeenyOwl says: Well, MJBDE 15, if you can draw global conclusions based on anecdotal personal experience, so can I: In my experience, most people who claim not to care about what other people think of them are lying to themselves big-time. It's just a defense mechanism, and if they're lucky, they will live long enough to see it break down. But it will be a more painful process than if they had admitted to needing other human beings right from the get-go.Avatar ImageCDR says: It's horrible for their families . Dan's right to fight with Trevor Project.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @WeenyOwl: I feel like I've just been psychoanalyzed, but guess what, i don't care ;-)Avatar Imagemoglet says: @MJBDE I can't help wondering why you joined a community that is a celebration of the Harry Potter books which of course deal with friendship and love and the fight against prejudice. I don't think any of us who have been discussing this topic would actually consider ourselves to be saintly, perfect role models, but we do recognise the need to be sensitive towards others trials and tribulations and the different ways this affects them, we are all individuals and should accept that the way one person deals with a problem is not going to be the way everyone else does. I don't really understand why you felt it necessary to comment on this news post at all since you think that those who commit suicide are weak (and I do believe you said something about a waste of time too) you knew what you said would be controversial as you said this yourself, but you appear to be irritated by anyone commenting on what you said.Avatar ImageWeenyOwl says: I didn't say 'you,' I just said 'most people.' See what happens when people start to overgeneralize based on anecdotal information?Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @moglet [ITC!] Okay, I'm going to be honest. I admit that I knew my post was going to ,obviously, provoke outrage. I was wrong (and no, i'm not being facitious), and I have a tendency to not be able to keep my mouth shut when I have a strong opinion. So I apologize, to everyone and anyone who feels insulted. As my mother often sais, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." Once again, I apologize and hope that you will allf rogive me for being such a jerk.Avatar ImageMJBDE15 says: @moglet [ITC!] Okay, I'm going to be honest. I admit that I knew my post was going to ,obviously, provoke outrage. I was wrong (and no, i'm not being facitious), and I have a tendency to not be able to keep my mouth shut when I have a strong opinion. So I apologize, to everyone and anyone who feels insulted. As my mother often sais, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." Once again, I apologize and hope that you will allf rogive me for being such a jerk.Avatar ImageGinnyW. says: wow Dan's totally right. But there'll always be bullies... I'm really sorry for the family and friends.Avatar ImageTanderule says: Great comment Dan. Who knew Madonna did the same?

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